/satan/ - Satan

Also: This is my very first thread on /satan/ and I know that my topic is not exactly satanist, yet I think it's very closely related.

So here we go:

"Is there an occult paradigm that glorifies evil / destruction?

I had this idea that evil is the source of magic (and maybe the source of the entire universe).

It's hard to explain this theory.

It's like the Carrollian chaos magic, but I think Chaos is evil… compared to the "good" of the Order(ed universe).

When you want to change something (especially with magic), it is an inherently evil act.

You oppose stagnation and order.

And yes, even consciousness is evil - just think about Adam, Eve and the Snake!

The Fruit of Knowledge is the birth of self-consciousness.

It is sin itself.

I don't want to be edgy or tipping any fedoras here.

But yeah, what we call "good" is, in fact, a bad thing and what we call "evil" is the only source of freedom, power and advance.

I found only one similar paradigm: the "chaosophy" from Temple of the Black Light.

So: are there any paradigms like this?"

"Bumping with Chaosophy (from the TotBL book):

"Chaos is the pandimensional plane and/or power with infinite amounts of time and space

dimensions, in contrast to cosmos which only has three spatial dimensions and one linear time dimension. In comparison with the linear time of cosmos, Chaos can be described as timeless in the way that it is not contained nor limited by one-dimensional time, and formless because of its ever changing and infinite amount of space dimensions.

Cosmos is causal, which means that it is bound by the law of cause and effect (Karma), while Chaos is totally Acausal (Akarma) and free from all the limitations of causal law.

Chaos is the eternal and lawless becoming and is therefore an active and dynamic form of eternity. Chaos was, Chaos is and Chaos becomes All and Nothing at one and the same time.

Chaos is therefore the only true Freedom and the Ur-essence beyond all the confining structures of the cosmic existence." "

"All possibilities exist within the boundless Chaos and among them also is the possibility for the birth of cosmic existence. But the Chaos that surrounds cosmos is Anti-cosmic, because its pandimensional and formless power acts as the antithesis to the formed, limiting and causal

structures of the finite order of cosmos. The Chaos that pervades the barriers of cosmic space-time is therefore experienced, from the cosmic perspective, as destructive, dissolving and consuming. This is because it dissolves the limiting structures and forms and, instead, reinstates the formless and unbound state of Acausality which is the origin and end of all."

(also from the TotBL book)

(it's me, again - only the last 2 replies contained quotes from that book)

"Also:

What if our world is really based on Evil?

To become successful in life you need to be cruel, using others as tools and exploit them.

Yes, you need creativity too, of course, but it's more like to be… cunning.

And yes, sometimes you just get lucky.

But mostly you just need to be an efficient predator.

I think wealthy and powerful people made us think that love, peace and equality are "good", to weaken our true nature and use us to be slaves.

And no, when I'm using the word Evil I don't think about savageness and idiocy!

Evil, if it's really the chaotic source of "everything", is above the dualism and the so-called Demiurge.

Being evil is not the same as being petty and barbaric.

… it's more like accepting your true nature and harnessing the limitless power and creativity of Chaos, which is hidden behind the curtains of the ordered cosmos."

bump