[ home / board list / faq / random / create / bans / search / manage / irc ] [ ]

/satan/ - Satan

Never conform to the fairy tales of christians.

Catalog

8chan Bitcoin address: 1NpQaXqmCBji6gfX8UgaQEmEstvVY7U32C
The next generation of Infinity is here (discussion) (contribute)
A message from @CodeMonkeyZ, 2ch lead developer: "How Hiroyuki Nishimura will sell 4chan data"
Name
Email
Subject
Comment *
File
* = required field[▶ Show post options & limits]
Confused? See the FAQ.
Flag
Embed
(replaces files and can be used instead)
Oekaki
Show oekaki applet
(replaces files and can be used instead)
Options
Password (For file and post deletion.)

Allowed file types:jpg, jpeg, gif, png, webm, mp4, pdf
Max filesize is 8 MB.
Max image dimensions are 10000 x 10000.
You may upload 5 per post.


READ THE RULES: [RULES]
[Astrology] [Demons] [Hell] [Kundalini] [Library] [Meditation]

File: 1426388833436.gif (109.64 KB, 308x547, 308:547, lucifero.gif)

 No.56

Does anyone else feel like there's too much JoS

 No.57

Something wrong with JoS?

 No.58

its way better than that atheistic Levey crap.

 No.59

>>58
BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO OPTIONS RIGHT

NAZI ALIENS AND "ATHEISTIC LEVEY CRAP"

OKAY THANKS FOR CLEARING THAT UP BUB

 No.60

>>56
BUT REALLY HOW ABOUT

ONA

TOTBL

DRAGON ROUGE

TEMPLE OF SET

ORDER OF PHOSPHOROUS

I KNOW YOUR SUPREME CUNT MAY HAVE MADE IT SEEM LIKE HER NAZI ALIENS AND LAVEY ARE THE ONLY OPTIONS SORRY OF I'M DROPPING A BOMB ON THE DELUSIONAL LITTLE WORLD SHE CREATED FOR YOU YOU LITTLE FUCK

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NAZI ALIENS OR "HERP DERP I'M A JEW AND USING SATAN AS A SYMBOL FOR HAVING A LOT OF SEX" THAT'S A FALSE DICHOTOMY

 No.61

Sorry, I like posting in all caps when I'm drunk

 No.64

>>60
>NAZI ALIENS AND LAVEY ARE THE ONLY OPTIONS
We have the hardest path and come under intense scrutiny for what we do. We are like fucking witches in the dark ages only this time, there's not a damn thing anybody can do to hurt us. All other satanists sit on their ass thinking their higher up than a christian when their not even higher than themselves. We focus on the things that matter and need to be improved. We're paving the way for the new aeon.

 No.71

>>64
Have you looked much into groups besides JoS? You're acting like JoS is the only one dedicated to self-advancement, which is demonstrably false. A bunch of Maxine's stuff is copied from other (non-Satanist) places, anyway.

I just think that if there's going to be a board about Satanism, it should be about Satanism as a whole (and yes I even mean LaVey in addition to those other groups listed above, though I'm not particularly fond of him and his teachings are indeed pretty entry-level).

I know you might wanna insist that JoS is the "one true Satanism" or something but to do that and attempt to marginalize all other sects and branches is to promote herd conformity in much the same way Abrahamic religions do.

People can discuss whatever they want on the board, and discussion may tend toward JoS, but those links at the top of the page that point exclusively to JoS pages, claiming that they're "all you need" as if they somehow sum up all of Satanism seem like a problem. Perhaps it would be better to have links pointing to the websites of multiple varieties of Satanism, rather than just one as if it's the only kind practiced?

I think most Satanists can agree that individualism and free thought are important focal points. To whore up one variety of Satanism as if it's the only kind while not giving people an opportunity to explore other kinds seems antithetical to these ideals.

 No.91

File: 1427068839061.gif (330.38 KB, 584x800, 73:100, m9x51uBHfp1rex2yoo1_1280.gif)

>>59
>>58

>Say that to my face and not online and see what happens fucker!


>>71
>All of these people shitting on LaVey.

Give credit where credit is due. Without based Anton to pave the way none of these copycat branches of satanism would exist.

 No.92

>>91
>copycat branches of satanism
kekkk, lavey was a jew

 No.95

>>92
and?

 No.96

>>91
It did present some good ideas to build on, but I highly doubt there'd be no modern Satanism without it, in this era of being open to new ideas and questioning authority. Moreover, the principles LaVey advocated would most likely still be present in Satanism. Obviously the idea of going against and/or reversing many of the bible's views on morality would be a thing, since Satan is viewed as a figure who tries to get people to transgress the laws of "God." And the idea of Satan supporting self-deification certainly has basis outside of LaVey – he invited Adam and Eve to become as gods, and as Lucifer, he endeavors to become a god himself.

tl;dr LaVey did advocate some good ideas that are important in Satanism, but he was probably unnecessary for most other branches of Satanism to exist as they are today.

I don't think LaVey's teachings are entirely without value, though I would say he doesn't take theidea of self-deification far enough. The "gods" he encourages people to be are rather mundane

 No.98

>>95
what do u mean and?? jews have been spreading lies about satanism for years

 No.101

File: 1427331536879-0.png (123.12 KB, 470x473, 470:473, 1414194720560.png)

File: 1427331536879-1.gif (966.31 KB, 500x281, 500:281, 1381975996924.gif)

>>98

>jews have been spreading lies about satanism for years


Such as?

Everyone lies about satanism including christians, jews, and muslims. LaVey laid out what his beliefs were and stuck to them.

LaVey's only crime was plagiarizing from Ragnar Redbeard. Something he admitted to and viewed as a guiding principle behind the religion.

Your going to have to elaborate on what LaVey being 1/8th jewish has to do with anything. Even Hitler kept half-jews in his inner circle. They are literally everywhere.

 No.102

File: 1427332657696.jpg (32.21 KB, 507x348, 169:116, 962105ef3858ba1b9bb2c3dfd4….jpg)

>>96

Before LaVey the only "Satanists" were arguably wiccans and Crowley. Wiccan's being more closely related to pagan feminists and Crowley was just a sex fiend with a gimmick (although it was a good gimmick).

http://www.american-buddha.com/satan.before.htm

You've got to remember that before LaVey started doing his thing being a satanist was enough to get you either locked up or put to death depending on how far back you go.

There isn't a branch of satanism today that does not either borrow some of his ideas or acknowledge his influence, even if it's in the form of saying "LaVey didn't go far enough!" or something similar.

I get that hating on LaVey is in style but the man does deserve credit for getting the ball rolling. Kind of like how ye olden tyme Heavy Metal paved the way for more explicit content in music.

 No.104

>>102
Did you read the whole post? I'm saying that his core ideas are things that are very naturally drawn from the character of Satan. Tempting Man (in Genesis 3) to become as gods is a very important characteristic of Satan's, as well as tempting people away from traditional morality in general. LaVey really wasn't pulling ideas out of his ass or anything. These are things anyone looking to portray Satan as a positive figure could easily come up with. Even John Milton (someone who lived hundreds of years before LaVey!) portrayed Satan as claiming that the angels should be gods and not mere servants.

It is true that Satanism wouldn't have been much of a thing that early on without LaVey "getting the ball rolling," but it seems quite natural that other branches of Satanism with similar ideas would have formed and caught on on their own, in the age of the internet.

At the end of the day, saying Satanism wouldn't exist without LaVey doesn't give due credit to the principle within Man that he was getting at. The urge to become the master of your own world and raise yourself above the constructs of morality etc. that others have created is a very essential force, and one that can easily be seen in the character of Satan/Lucifer/the Serpent in the bible. No one man in the 60's created this principle.

 No.105

On the topic of the thread:

>>>/boards/6311
>For anyone who is into the occult, meditation, kundalini, esotericism, yoga, mythology, shiva/shaktism, sanatana dharma. We also advocate National Socialism and the removal of Jews from civilization.
>We also advocate National Socialism and the removal of Jews from civilization.

Speaking for everyone? Why don't you just rename the board /JoS/

 No.107

>>101
LaVey didnt even revise the enochian keys so they would praise Satan's glory, but curse his entire name and image and putting Jehovah and its ilk above.

Jews have been spreading lies that Satan is a fallen angel and father of lies for centuries now. BTW ur baphomet sigil has Hebrew kike letters.

>>105
You can't denazify Satan.

 No.108

>>107
Do you really think Satan is portrayed as a nazi in ANY of the source material, when nazism didn't even exist until the 20th century? I think it's quite easy to "denazify" Satan when he's only been "nazified" in the reality tunnels of a few, and relatively recently.

You do the same bullshit "enemy" religions do when you claim your Satanism is the only right one and people aren't Satanists if they don't follow it. It's anti-individualistic.

You have two honest options:

a. Make it clear that this is just a JoS board in the title so most Satanists know not to bother with it
b. If you want it to be simply a "Satanism" board, stop advertising JoS as if it's the only kind

Anyway, I'd recommend actually studying other branches of Satanism rather than just taking Maxine's word for it. Her websites seem very intentionally designed to slowly sink you into her reality tunnel.

 No.109

>>108
>source material
>when nazism didn't even exist
Nazism is a relatively new term. The ancients didn't have words for such mundane things we do today. IMO, all ancient civilizations were kept pure and within their their own. Preserving their race and culture, perfecting it each and every way; see high priests of the ancient religions. This is the way it was intended by Satan. That in itself is a very National Socialist kind of thing. Hitler kept Germany German.

>reality tunnels of a few

>relatively recently
As I stated above, it isn't recent. Primordial Tradition. Perfecting the serpentine energies.

We do a lot more than we are given credit for. If we weren't fighting for Satan, here on earth, the world would be uglier than it is now. Don't get me wrong, it will get worse as time goes on and a collapse happens, although as that happens we will be the ones saving humanity from completely becoming extinct or enslaved.

Satan's knowledge is what is most important. Nobody is being forced to censor their posts, besides anything illegal. People are free to post what they like on here.

 No.112

File: 1427566936492.jpg (228.48 KB, 1920x1200, 8:5, 28579-chess-in-neon-1920x1….jpg)

>>108

You are free to advertise your own special snowflake brand of satanism anytime you like.

>>104

Perhaps, but he was the first to codify it into a unified system and the only one with the balls to come right out and label it satanism. Up until him everyone else just called their particular flavor ridiculous shit like "Thelma" or other such non-sense.

>>109

>all ancient civilizations were kept pure and within their their own. Preserving their race and culture, perfecting it each and every way; see high priests of the ancient religions. This is the way it was intended by Satan. That in itself is a very National Socialist kind of thing.


Well said. Many people forget that before monotheism and the Abraham religions came along people of different cultures and ethnicities while having their own gods/goddesses would also acknowledge the possibility that other cultures gods existed. There was none of this thou shalt have no other god before me nonsense. You might even go so far as to say that christianity, judaism, and islam are more atheistic than pagan faiths because they do not even acknowledge the possibility of more than one god in their super specific sect of christianity/judaism/islam.

 No.129

So what's the idea behind this board? Like the purpose.. all I know about satanism is that its about evil and murdering children doing blood sacrifices and what not. I keep hearing hollywood does this shit and it seems pretty legit with all the subliminal messages

 No.133

>>129
well memed my friend

 No.203

I wish there was more people into the TOTBL here.


 No.208

LaVey was, of course, a Jewish showmen..

but I admire him.

He saw the Christcuck church as weak and used Satan to represent Promethean/Faustian strength.

Brilliant.




[Return][Go to top][Catalog][Post a Reply]
[]
[ home / board list / faq / random / create / bans / search / manage / irc ] [ ]