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 No.83

I'm curious,what is satanism?do you believe in Jesus? And what of God?do you believe he's a tyrant?what do you think lucifers motives were for rebelling?(I'm not Christian though I was raised catholic)

 No.87

This world is full of pain and suffering. Might is right, might is the ability to inflict pain onto others. Pain is the currency for power, Evil always wins over good, for good is weakness to enemies.

There is nothing in this world in your future except pain and torture, a longing for life to be as it was before, when you had less pain. You long for pleasure but even if you get it it is not like it was before. Darkness and defeat rule over the world in a 1000 years of darkness.

The Dark Lord Satan rules supreme, it is not something you would normally wish to happen, but I have seen what the world is, and embraced it. I try to embrace the pain I will recieve in the future by justifying it the best way I know how. This world is ruled by evil.

 No.88

When speaking about Satanism, the first thing to realize is that there are a multiplicity of Satanisms. If you were to ask a spiritualist, a traditionalist, a neo-modernist, a symbolist, your answer could vary from Babylonian, Zoroastrian or even Buddhist in origin. That is to say, Satan could be a force, power, a being, an essence, a concept.

As for me, Satanism represents an existential resistance against homogenized domination, a spiritual battle that plays out into the material realm vis a vis psychosocial re-structuring and practice.

>do you believe in Jesus

I do not believe in a living Jesus, no. I do suspect that such a revolutionary once existed, but history has conflated him into this personality cult encircling Christianity. It is a known fact of history that Christianity assimilated myths, stories and legends from varying cultures, even playing out to this day: the Catholic Church with its purgatory and its prayers to the Virgin Mary are testament to this hybridization.

>Do you believe in God?

I suspect with this, you are talking about "Jehovah". I do not have any faith within a Yaweh figure, a contorted creature of extreme jealousy and contradictory egotism.

>What were Lucifer's motives for rebelling?

I cannot say. There are many theories as to why, within Christian Lore, Lucifer rebelled. The KJV bible speaks of Lucifer being envious of Jehovah, and thus leading a 1/3 angelic rebellion.

As to the entity of Lucifer, I do not think of him as Satan. Such a concept relies heavily upon the King James Bible. As proof of this, the Vulgate translation even used "lucifer" as a reference to the "morning star rising within your hearts": https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+peter%201:19-1:19&version=ESV

>>87
>the Dark Lord is evil incarnate
>evil

What is evilness to you?

I am curious: I do not think of the Dark Lord as one of evil. To me, the idea that evilness is replicated by Satan seems like a cultural repeat of His demonization.

 No.95

>>88
*New poster*

I think the concept of something or somebody being evil is just a term created by opposing religions like Christianity.
I guess what most Christians think of as a evil person is a simply a "sinful" one. I don't think sins should limit you, the only thing that should limit you is actual state law, otherwise, do what you please. (the entire intolerance towards homosexuality, fetishes is just sickening, and I wonder, why are things like lust so closed-out and are rated sometimes almost as a crime, when it is just entirely natural to lust)

 No.97

>>87
You seem to have autism,only a weakling would submit to pain and torture if you had any strength you would plan on resisting

 No.99

>>97
This.

 No.102

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>>95

The historic demonization of a field of ethical behaviors seems to be a byproduct from controlled social mechanics belonging to a monopolized legal and moral authority.

Christianity's massive popularization underwent a radical adaption of local customs and traditions. The implications from the Council of Nicea are much larger than what is usually discussed. At that time, a highly elite order of bishops essentially determined the truth of "what is real and what is a lie" within a religious artifact that ended up spreading its influence throughout the entire world. But not even this compilation of papers could remain intact, despite religious authorities trying to grant it a supposed holiness.

This so-called holy relic caused the further splintering of several dozen sects and oversaw the development of dozens of religious civil wars concerning theological conversion and domination. For example, gnosticism was greatly despised and even hunted by the orthodoxy. That the church proclaimed salvation was only acceptable vis a vis their methods throws much of our history confined to a systemic ignorance.

This stipulates a few things, the most significant of which is that the ideas of magic, rituals and religious artifacts were once popularized and publicly embraced as actually existing.

I think that the dogmatism with which sin is attested to exist is particularly a byproduct of Christianity's sociopolitical attempts to merge widely similar dislikes (a lot of people dislike losing things which belong to them, so therefore let us call it a sin to steal) into populist mantras.

The thing is, I don't think that the concept of evilness is largely inspired by Christianity, in fact, I think the exact opposite. I believe that Christianity is largely an assimilated religion, itself having undergone a radical elitist collectivizing of knowledge and truth. This suggests that its concepts of 'evil' and 'sin' are therefore older social relationships and conditions that surpass the definitions given underneath orthodoxy.

 No.132

>>102
Very interesting information and an even more interesting point of view, thank you.

By the way, is a site like sacred-texts a good resource for information about religions, old knowledge? Or is it more like the very bold statements in for ex. the JoS site, stating that old knowledge is "corupted"/"erased"?

Or should I look into more recent book releases?

 No.133

>>132
JoS Satanist here and I browse sacred-texts a lot. The thing with corrupted information is, you really have to know the intention and meaning of the original text, otherwise, you're not going to understand shit.

For example right now I'm reading the Rig Veda. Thanks to Christianity and the RHP, it's corrupted beyond anything we know. Understanding that Sanatana Dharma or Eternal Law was originally about advancing the soul and raising the serpent(kundalini) we have to read texts like these from a satanic perspective.

>TLDR nothing we read about ancienct religion or true spirituality is going to be free of christian dross, try to sift it out as much as possible. Don't take anything at face value. Study and read as much as you can, then compare and contrast.

 No.156

>>132
There is power which dominates over society, existing within symbols of its own, surrounding ourselves with mirages and staged personality complexes, infusing itself within psychosocial discourse. This suggests that there does exist old knowledge, utilized to constrain society within aesthetic puppetry, mobilized in degrees to suppress collective potential.

I think sites and research centers, such as sacred-texts, hold useful data and information, ideas from which you can draw conclusions and interesting studies. I do not think that true knowledge is ultimately unattainable. However, it is my belief that absolute truthful knowledge exists within a mirage of its own, a representation of truth that makes sense to us given other conditions of governing knowledge- e.g. the notions of moral justification, our conceptions of linguistic structure, the dominating social themes within our culture, etc.

I would suggest that any modern book can be dived into and research will produce beneficial information. To what purpose it exists and sustains itself ultimately decides its wide-spread utility. I do think that historical interests have restrained knowledge before, see: Library of Alexandria. Its tale is a strange tale indeed, with many alternating stories and approaches to its destruction. This suggests that it was used as a pinnacle of information and was controlled by dominating powers in order to create a presentable dilemma- centralize all "world knowledge" within one locality, and then spread stories of its eventual attacking and systemic burning while preserving the desired narrative. To me, this theoretical scenario doesn't differ too much from the systemic reconditioning undergone vis a vis the Council of Nicea, and other manipulating paradigms, such as Mao's structural engineering. Society tends to reconstruct truth using standardizations upheld by dominating institutions. In many ways, our Internet is our Library of Alexandria.

>>133
>nothing we read about ancienct religion or true spirituality is going to be free of christian dross, try to sift it out as much as possible. Don't take anything at face value.
I agree with you to a degree, but disagree with you to another. I think Christianity, largely composed of political measures to accustom its message, is itself filled with ancient dross and psychosocial conflicts which predate its collectivizing. Hence, why so many of its stories are shared in historical passages of older, different mythologies.

 No.158

im a hard polytheist

i believe most gods are real, but creation stories are just stories to enforce belief in a particular god/pantheon

i believe that gods are just a form of life that science has not yet reached the sophistication to prove

i believe that deities with specific "jobs" are not literally holding those duties. individual interpretation is needed to determine the meaning of each gods association

i believe that the abrahamic god is merely a stronger god or "fathergod" to the angels, yhwh is a tyrannical space kike encouraging humans (as the dominant species in the area) to starve other deities of influence in meatspace, and "satan" had enough of the shit and got slandered to hell (get it?)


 No.191

>>83

To me, Satanism is the purifying process of attuning yourself to daemon and the deeper energy that surrounds us.

I'm a mix between panentheism and polytheism. There are many daemon, whose powers and influence expand past space and time. Our current reality is only one part of the entire spectrum of daemonic existence, and their ways go far beyond our simple human traditions.

Jesus was nothing more than a flashy salesman. Tech was low, so everything was hearsay. He got popular as the church grew. The church needs that money-making story of a trinity tribunal waging war against an ever-present temptation.

Lucifer is just one name given to those daemon whose sight and wisdom expands past our flimsy reason.

My "god" is a trans-reality sort of super-daemon, made up of many different trans-universal daemon. We are expressions of these daemonic energies mixing together, capable of reaching into the Abyss.




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