To jimejime
Dear jimejime,
We users of the IRC channel are very use to your company and to say the least it is uneseteling for you not to be around. Being that our dismay is escelating we as of late have begun to think you may have perished. If this is not the case would you please contant us somehow. Pic related as we in the channel are hoping to catch your attention with it. Goodbye and hope to hear from you soon.
Sincerely,
The Users of #schizoid@irc.rizon.net
A Board for Those with Schizoid Personality Traits
One day I read something that mentioned schizoid personality disorder, so I looked it up on Wikipedia to gain a better understanding of the term. To my surprise the article described a personality that more closely matched my own than anything I had ever read about before.
I already knew I was somehow different from most people, but I never knew there was a known category for my personality. For the longest time I have had trouble relating with other people, because it appeared nobody I ever came in contact with experienced life from a perspective similar to mine.
Now that I know that others like me exist, if possible, I'd like to have a place where we can talk and be mutually understood. I think that many such individuals are drawn to websites such as these where often a great percentage of their socializing is done.
My understanding is that many individuals go through life completely unaware that they have a schizoid personality. If you are in a hurry to find out if you have schizoid personality traits, I recommend you go straight to this section of the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_personality_disorder#Akhtar.27s_phenomenological_profile
If you are thinking that describes you well, I highly recommend you read the entire article before you conclude you have a schizoid personality. It was after much suffering that I concluded I have a schizoid personality, and I do not recommend anyone to self-diagnose without much contemplation and fully understanding what it means to have a schizoid personality.
Finally, I want to make a small mention that whether or not a schizoid personality is a disorder depends on how badly it affects your quality of life. I personally refrain from calling my personality a disorder in order to maintain a positive outlook in hopes that one day my life will change for the better. I don't think I can change my personality, but I believe there is a chance I can better adapt my life around it so that I can eventually find my own happiness in life.
I am schizoid, I have been diagnosed for a long time, but my diagnosis was changed a few times from Dissociative to Schizoid, so I try not to identity as a mental illness so much.
None the less I still have the personality traits that align with these personality disorders. Lately I have been struggling with involuntary celibacy.
I have a sex drive, but my personality traits leads me to be uninterested in actually doing anything about it. I haven't even fapped for three months.
Does anyone else struggle with the asexuality side of things and the blatant disinterest or inability to interact with people, and the general tendency to just avoid sexual concepts and ideas in general?
does anyone else wonder how many ordinary introverts stumble upon the schizoid wikipedia article or something and read the line that's like
"Schizoid personality disorder (SPD) is a personality disorder characterized by a lack of interest in social relationships, a tendency towards a solitary lifestyle, secretiveness, emotional coldness, and apathy"
and think "omg that's so me i'm a schizoid wow"
?
i mean it only affects like 1% of introverts (if that), so…
Control groups of rats isolated in small cages consumed much more morphine in this and several subsequent experiments.
It’s been a while since I tried to stir up some activity here, but I haven’t given up on this place.
I started learning about schizoid personality traits in August 2014. A while after I made this board, and on November 15, 2014 2:31 A.M. I made an IRC channel. The majority of the activity I involved myself with occured there, and I met some interesting people over the course of a year.
I thank all of you who came to visit either on this board or in the channel. I still find myself alone these days, but now there are a few people I can chat with to give me hope and keep me somewhat sane. I now believe there are people I can identify with and understand. They are just few and far between.
I hope to bring some people in this week. I’ll make a couple threads elsewhere to see if there is any interest.
Are schizoids more prone to be perverted?
What are your fetisjes/perversions?
Do any of you smoke marijuana or drink alcohol?
I'm 24 and have never tried either most likely because of my minimal social life. I have started becoming more curious about trying one or both because of this:“S. C. Ekleberry[38] suggests that marijuana "may be the single most egosyntonic drug for individuals with SPD because it allows a detached state of fantasy and distance from others, provides a richer internal experience than these individuals can normally create, and reduces an internal sense of emptiness and failure to participate in life. Also, alcohol, readily available and safe to obtain, is another obvious drug of choice for these individuals. Some will use both marijuana and alcohol and see little point in giving up either. They are likely to use in isolation for the effect on internal processes."[38]” - Wikipedia SPD article.
I am afraid that either one may put me in a bad place or make me more withdrawn from the world.
There is also the concern about marijuana unleashing “latent schizophrenia” as I have heard that it has caused psychosis in very rare cases. What I've read about the schizoid personality type tells me that it is somehow related to schizophrenia, but it's very clear that having a schizoid personality does NOT imply schizophrenia.
There are little things I've read like having schizophrenic family members increases risk of being schizoid and there is the schizotypy theory ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizotypy ) which places schizoid personality traits on a continuum where schizophrenia is the most extreme manifestation of schizotypy.
Basically I'm afraid I'll smoke weed when I'm a little more stressed out than usual and just go completely nuts. Have you smoked it safely?
Is everyone in the Western Hemisphere ready for it? You better be.
>Seen it
How often do you masturbate (if at all)?
I masturbate quite a bit. About once a day, seven days a week, three sixty five, etc. It's one of the few things I "enjoy", even though 95% of my faps are quite vapid.
I can abstain from masturbation quite easily, having done 4 or 5 (non-consecutive) no-fap months in the past few years. Earlier this year I went 100 days without fapping and there were no notable changes so I figured there's no point in abstinence. With me being a schizoid, I don't think I have anything to lose from regular faps.
Time to graduate.
Hey I know! Let's make a board for people who hate being around other people! that'll work!
>inb4 but we are alike
no we arent
you be schizoid over there, i be schizoid over here
nice to meet y'all, goodbye!
at least we got the best superhero representative
>pic related
No matter how long and well I know them, I never feel comfortable around people. I always feel uptight and wanting to leave asap. This also applies to people sitting next to me in a bus, in a car or even the same (big) room for instance in a library or just a room where me and someone I know well are doing our own thing.
Anyone that can relate? Why this discomfort? Hoe to feel more comfortable?
post ur fav. exasperated doritos
The trouble with humans is that they have empathy; they see themselves in others. By this principle a human expects–with conviction–that others want for and value the same as him or herself. This leads to discourse that is insensitive to those with contrasted value systems. Namely, none.
>tfw a girl falls in love with you
I'll write a blogpost too
When I'm alone for a while, I sometimes feel like I could just go to the employment office, sell some of my lifetime so that I could maybe buy clothes, of which I own very few, or buy something that I might have a slim chance of enjoying, but then when I talk to my mother (like one sentence about the most meaningless stuff), or go outside and am around people I don't care about and who don't care about me, there is an inexplicable pain and I just want to 'not live' as much as possible.
It has probably something to do with having learned as a child that showing initiative will lead to being hurt, and with having a notion of "It's not OK to be me, I'm guilty" ingrained somewhere in my psyche (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erikson%27s_stages_of_psychosocial_development).
I get laughed at occasionally when I'm outside. (It's probably because of the dead expression in my eyes, which marks me as a 'loser', as well as superficial signs of status, like clothing.) It's not like it hits me emotionally, but the world just feels hostile. How could it not for someone who has no one to trust in and who can't trust anyone?
So, if I did stuff, life wouldn't be so meaningless, but since life is so meaningless, how could I be motivated to go outside and suffer more than necessary?
Much love to the dorito shitposter :D
Who /languid/ here?
/blogpost/
Have any of you been able to really 'get' the phrase (and the connotations behind) "I'm off my meds"? How alienated did the realization make you feel?
I think I just forgot to take my dose earlier, the fact that I started headpunching as it dawned on me solidified that a little. It's like, I don't even know how to >into words it. Lot of curtains just came crashing down on me, we'll leave it like that.
Jobs & Employment
How many here have jobs?
If you are employed, what do you do? How does it affect you, as a schizoid?
Official IRC Channel
There now exists an IRC channel, #schizoid on irc.rizon.net.I know we don't have many people yet, but I figure it can't hurt to have an outlet for less public or less formal discussion.
I'll be there fairly regularly. I can't guarantee specific times, but often it will be around 10 P.M. to 4 A.M. -06:00 UTC.
Feel free to come or don't. We can talk about whatever or just enjoy the silence, and don't be afraid to talk about anything troubling you. I'll listen.
schizoid quotes
Fairbairn argued that the tragedy of schizoid children is that . . .they believe it is love, rather than hatred, that is the destructive force within. Love consumes. Hence the schizoid child’s chief mental operation is to repress the normal wish to be loved.
Self Diagnosis Discussion
this is also a thread for medically diagnosed schizoids to answer the questions of self-diagnosed schizoids.
Quite good pdf on schizoid dynamics.
Some Thoughts on Schizoid Dynamics by Nancy McWilliams
Link: http://internationalpsychoanalysis.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/McWilliamsschizoid_dynamics.pdf
How do we increase the userbase with quality users and real schizoids?
Pressures to Conform
I'm not some kind of rebel or anything, but I do notice that I'm not exactly "fitting the norm" like the average Joe. Often, people will ask things like:>"Why don't you have a boyfriend or girlfriend?"
>"Why don't you want to go get friends and hang out with people your own age?"
>"Why don't you like [normal things]?"
>"Why aren't you trying hard at school/work?"
>"Why do you want to be alone all the time?"
The list goes on and on. Most of the time I just answer with a simple "I don't know" or "Because I do/don't want that".
Do any of you /schizoids/ go through this? How do you deal with it? Do any of you go "under the radar", so to speak, leaving people oblivious to the inner-you? How does one achieve that without leaving their comfort zone?
I’m writing this more in interest for others to share their experiences than to share my own.
Typical of the trope of being different, as a child, I very much felt different from my peers and sometimes ostracized by them. It never really bothered me though, and as I grew older, I got very good at ignoring those types of people (to such an extent I would not focus my eyes on them). While I did have acquaintances during school, I felt that the only reason I had them was my desire to not break habit; by sitting next to them every day, it made us acquaintances by proxy. I would eventual make actual friends that I would talk to outside of necessity, but recently, I’ve noticed my self drifting away from society.
I’ve always been secretive about my life; I try to hide everything that is not necessary to living from everyone. This means all forms of entertainment, branded merchandise, and interests were kept hidden from the world around me, and I still try to keep them hidden today. This lack of trust extends to everyone (including all my relatives) except maybe my closest friends; even then, I noticed my “personality” differs from relationship to relationship as if it’s a way to please the other person rather than myself. Even here, on 8chan, I find myself not posting because of how secretive I am.
My sexuality still confuses me today, and having a strong exclusive sexual fetish doesn’t help. While my family doesn’t really push me all that much, I still feel a pressure from them to get into a heterosexual relationship. My grandmother has even explicitly asked me if the “sissy boys” have gotten to my mind (she is a very nice hardcore Christian). There’s probably a pressure I constructed for myself seeing as I’m the last male in the family to share my last name besides my father. From the outside, I seem asexual and my actions seem to reflect that, but reading the Wikipedia article, the having a relationship with my inner self fits me very well.
The way I think and interact with other people, makes me come off as “stupid” or “uniformed” (the words of others), but when I talk to people and have a intellectual conversation with them, nine times out of ten they go out of their way to acted surprised and tell me I’m “really smart.” Despite this, I still feel very slow, and things that takes a normal person five seconds to do take me about twenty. The only explanation I can think of that could cause this gap in cognitive time, is the way that I have debates with myself when thinking about anything. Even for things that have a concrete right answer, like arithmetic, I still approach the problem from several viewpoints. While this mindset has its downside in that it slows down problem solving, it has allowed me access to a form of self-therapy. I can talk to myself for hours and not feel like I’m wasting anytime; it is like talking to a person who shares my same interests. I have even gone through this post in its entirety, not word for word by sharing the same points, several hours before posting.
I have never sought after a diagnosis for fear of losing my rights as an individual; when I was younger, my parents even explicitly asked if I wanted to see a therapist, I appeared depressed to them, but I would always refuse. I am also hesitant to self-diagnosis because I would feel disingenuous and attention craving, but before I discovered schizoid personality disorder, I felt I had autistic and psychopathic tendencies.
Most of my life, I have not shown any emotion what so ever, but recently, I have gotten better at faking it to prevent people from inquiring about me. I have also started to outwardly express my personality in private; I would say things to myself If no one is around to hear it. I also notice I make noises as a way to explore my vocal cords as I rarely use them; this sentence makes me sound insane. Touching on the interactions between my friends and I again, I think it’s a way for me to help other people. I usually don’t talk with another person unless I have to, and I’ve noticed I don’t start using “personal” language and mannerisms until I have talked to them for quite a while. I wander if it’s just me learning what the other person finds enjoyable and mirroring there personality back to them. I think this way because of the discrepancies from person to person in my personality and that my true personality seems to be very utilitarian and emotionally dry.
I feel like I’ve written to much here so I’m forcing myself to stop. (pic unrelated)
Are we all like this ?
I was diagnosed with Schizoid personality disorder, but that is not important. It was the first time I learned about it, so I looked up on the Internet, and I thought to myself : this is /b/.Did you noticed how close the symptoms are to the (imagined) personality of the average /b/tard ? Do you think that the old Anonymous is Schizoid ? What if all channers were ? We always fling 'autist' as an insult to each other, but maybe in fact we really are schizoid…
Dreams, Daydreams, and Nightmares
Last night I had a strange dream, so here’s a thread for dreams in case anyone feels like sharing.
The context is now forgotten, but suddenly I found myself in front of a small stream. I crouched down and extended the palm of my right hand. I concentrated my mental energy and began to freeze the stream through power emitted from my hand. It felt quite natural and deliberate even though it seemed I never did such a thing in a dream before.
I continued to concentrate harder to speed up and complete the process. Tension started to build. Every last ounce of my concentration was devoted to this task. As I began to reach my limit, small, spiny icicles started to form on my hand. Then the stream started to freeze completely solid. The tension was enormous and I began to feel a familiar sensation.
I was nearing orgasm, but I was too easily stirred from my slumber and awoke without a pay-off. With frustration and confusion in my thoughts, I grumbled and turned to my other side. I then fell back asleep.
Schizoid Quotes Thread
this shut up self, being isolated, is unable to be enriched by outer experience, and so the whole inner world comes to be more and more impoverished, until the individual may come to feel he is merely a vacuum. The sense of being able to do anything and the feeling of possessing everything then exist side by side with a feeling of impotence and emptiness. The individual who may at one time have felt predominantly 'outside' the life going on there, which he affects to despise as petty and commonplace compared to the richness he has here inside himself, now longs to get inside life again, and get life inside himself, so dreadful is his inner deadness'- The Divided Self - R D Laing
How do we grow the userbase. And not just grow it, adding quality users to it (real schizoids).
How to deal with/treat anhedonia?
Hi guys,
I'm writing this in a quite depressed phase. I just feel like talking about it.
I think it's the social isolation that's getting to me, since I haven't had anything like a friend
in about 8 years now. On top of that, I had my trust in my parents violated in the past, so I'm
really quite alone.
I'm a pupil (22) and I'm barely functional. I'm afraid of becoming NEET again, just because of
depression, which I don't think I would still be able to handle. Things that are not daily
activities are to much for me (like buying socks or terminating a contract).
It's just that I don't have other people, or things in life I enjoy (except masturbation, I'll
admit), it's an empty life, and I can't overcome my need of being protected from other people.
I'm also so emotionally flat that I'm on most levels at peace with the thought of having my life
being over.
So, while that's mostly me being depressed, here a maybe more interesting thing:
As my life has felt like a chain of traumatic events and episodes, I developed the trait of lacking
memory, and connected with that imagination. While I still know which things happened in my past,
it's just fact memory. Isn't that worrisome?
I'd appreciate input, in case you can relate, yet I'm mostly venting.
Pic is unfortunately unrelated.
Shy In The Firelight has been taken down for whatever reason.
Does anyone know if there is a mirror or archive of it?
(lack of) authenticity
I personally feel not as an authentic part of the world. Not part of the organic stream of things. I do not feel as if I'm a part. I tried to compensate for my lack of authenticity by diving into interests or things I considered authentic. And I also mimic authencity (My internet username is fortunecookie. Fortunecookie sounds like a real authentic internet username. It sounds very 'internetty' if you will.) I also admire and see the beauty of authenticity.I submerged myself into imageboard culture hoping to have a taste of the old glory days of internet. The pre 2006 era (I was involved in imageboards in 2007). I wanted to have a taste of this. I can also think of other things I submerged myself in. Hell when I was nine years old I started a prank club at school having in mind I should have some authentic youth experiences. I even grew marijuana with a friend to have an authentic late teenager experience (legal btw where I live). But to get back to the imageboard thing. I'm on IRC and try to visit all kinds of far away niche corners of the internet (Zerochan, 711chan etc…) to get a taste of this authentic pure piece of internet.
Do you also seek authenticity? How do you try to obtain it?
Where/what to advertise?
I could remake the /b/ thread again, but I am going to limit how many times I do that. Also, I think I'll get some different content next time. My charts and diagrams are probably not very eye catching.I'll do something possibly once a week to bring people in, but I can only dedicate short spurts of time to advertising. I primarily spend my time on other things (programming lately), but I come to 8chan during my downtime.
Hopefully we'll hit some sort of critical mass of people eventually, but for now I'll persevere with the current state.
Would any of you care for an IRC channel somewhere? I'll put it in the board subtitle if we have one.
opinions on eron gjoni?
he's the guy who sparked gamergate. he claims to have a schizoid personality. I'm inclined to believe him, based on his conduct.
http://schizoids.net/
Just in case any of you guys don't already know about this place.