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47e409 No.28

I'm 24 and have never tried either most likely because of my minimal social life. I have started becoming more curious about trying one or both because of this:

“S. C. Ekleberry[38] suggests that marijuana "may be the single most egosyntonic drug for individuals with SPD because it allows a detached state of fantasy and distance from others, provides a richer internal experience than these individuals can normally create, and reduces an internal sense of emptiness and failure to participate in life. Also, alcohol, readily available and safe to obtain, is another obvious drug of choice for these individuals. Some will use both marijuana and alcohol and see little point in giving up either. They are likely to use in isolation for the effect on internal processes."[38]” - Wikipedia SPD article.

I am afraid that either one may put me in a bad place or make me more withdrawn from the world.

There is also the concern about marijuana unleashing “latent schizophrenia” as I have heard that it has caused psychosis in very rare cases. What I've read about the schizoid personality type tells me that it is somehow related to schizophrenia, but it's very clear that having a schizoid personality does NOT imply schizophrenia.

There are little things I've read like having schizophrenic family members increases risk of being schizoid and there is the schizotypy theory ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizotypy ) which places schizoid personality traits on a continuum where schizophrenia is the most extreme manifestation of schizotypy.

Basically I'm afraid I'll smoke weed when I'm a little more stressed out than usual and just go completely nuts. Have you smoked it safely?

21f460 No.34

>>28
I've tried alcohol. I spent $100 on vodka and rum. It decreased my motor skills and made it difficult to think so I didn't care to continue.

I'll never try marijuana because the people that use it are enough to make me think it's probably bad. I've never seen somebody I respect use the stuff.

47e409 No.36

>>34
>I've never seen somebody I respect use the stuff.

I haven't either, but if it's somehow an amazing experience for schizoids, I'll consider it very carefully. My biggest concern is I'm one of those rare individuals that will go into psychosis from it.

Having an occasional beer or something seems much more accessible for me though. If it can ease my suffering a little, I'll probably drink at least once a week.

687c87 No.38

I've tried both. Still drink occasionally but I don't get drunk anymore. It makes me careless and I may end up talking a lot, saying more than I would like people to know, or it just makes me sound and act like a fool. It can also lead to recalling some bad memory and I'll just feel depressed the rest of the night. Either way, when I wake up my head and body is going to feel like shit, I will remember the stupid shit I've done (if I can actually remember) and feel ashamed of my vulnerability. I also wont be able to do anything productive.

Marijuana, I tried it a few times, and I'm not looking forward to try again. Made me feel a bit dizzy and slow, or I might say relaxed. I never felt those magical detached states that everybody talk about. Maybe i didn't do it right. I also ended up realizing what >>34 said, and started to avoid relating with these people. I never smoked while feeling actually stressed or nervous, so I'm not sure if this is of any help.

4c3c26 No.39

>>36
>My biggest concern is I'm one of those rare individuals that will go into psychosis from it.
that happened to me, it isn't terribly scary if you're around a few friends. I was totally shutdown for like 5 hours straight but then it mellowed out and the last 2 hours of it were ok, I prefer a beer to it, but that's just me tread carefully.

4c3c26 No.40

>>39
Going to go ahead and put emphasis on doing it with the few people you trust otherwise I wouldn't risk it.

cafe3f No.61

I have often heard that weed is supposed to be the ultimate drug for schizoids.
Can anyone of you vouch for that? Is it worth it?

176e00 No.66

>alcohol
fun, kinda hot feeling, makes me do things I normally wouldn't and forget later. it's like a cocoon that grows around me, it gets in the way of my experience of the world (which is pleasant). can cause some stomach issues for me, have barfed, but I've never had a headache hangover.

>weed

more like candy for my brain. rather than blocking the world out, it makes everything intense and hyper-focused, to the point of incoherence (if I've smoked a lot). so weed is better for watching movies, listening to music, or playing vidya. possibly worse for conversation due to incoherence: when drunk, I can just thoughtlessly talk on and on, but when high, everything becomes a consideration. no bad side effects.

>worries about bad side effects

dude, there is no danger in this drug. it will not make you go crazy.

>worries about the wrong/dumb crowd

all sorts of people smoke weed. weed is not a culture.

8b210f No.74

You're absolutely right to fear psychosis.

I have smoked weed around 40-50 times in my life. (Live in Amsterdam).

I feel it directly influencing my brain and I had three experiences of which one I think resembles psychosis. Which was very fearful.

People joke because dude it's just weed. But for me it was a lot more.

To elaborate a bit on the last trip I had with very very potent weed. This was two days ago.

I don't remember much. All I remembered was that I lost sense of who I was, my brain. I didn't feel connected to them anymore. Movements were trippy as in very shocky and I was shaking the whole time.

The most remarkable thing and the best thing in this trip was that an old friend of mine called. When I took the phone and turned around it was like I was veiled in a dreamish darkness and I could only see or experience a distorted mental image of my friend with a kind of greyish distortion in the background and he having some dreamish laugh. I was thinking he was laughing the whole time because I heard the noise and distortion of the background as laughter. I later in the conversation became semi aware that this was not laughter but still heard it as such. He was a bit irritated but because of the laughter I thought he was laughing. The call took about two minutes and when I turned back I got out of this darkish but comfortable place or 'dreamish womb' and when I turned around I saw reality a bit again. I actually saw what I described and no reality.

During the whole ordeal I was fearing I would permanently be in this trip and that I reached psychosis. Two days later yes I still feel like I'm in recovery of the trip and have a headache and am even more withdrawn from the world than normally. I still have a bit shifty thought about the reality I'm seeing now.

On other occassions I heard a women screaming in my ear in the shower and I saw rich paterns in the floor like castles but also demonic things (on another occassion). Once I saw a white being that looked like an angel that actually talked but couldn't hear it.

The thing is, nobobdy will believe me cause 'dude it's weed man wtf'. I'm very sensitive for drugs including caffeine in general and weed is a massive step.

All by all I'm happy to have experienced it all. I did learn valueable lessons from 'trips' I had.

I live in Amsterdam and weed is more common and potent weeds are available.

5d1ed4 No.91

May want to give DXM a shot.
Please read before going any further: http://dxm.darkridge.com/faq/contents.html

05d026 No.93

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you're all over thinking it. i smoke every day. it "enhances" some experiences, gives me nice dreams (definitely helps me sleep), and "keeps me from deliberately stepping into the street, and methodically knocking people's hats off"

but if you fear it, you probably dont want to become a user. figure out your fear first.

3a1bd3 No.100

I've grown out of weed actually.

I started in my teens and did it a lot when I was 16 or 17. Mainly due to having a friend who always had the stuff with him. It was an okay drug I guess. Just a simple feel good and all it's lazy aftereffects. But it didn't enhance my level of fantasy and defiantly isn't the ultimate schizoid drug. I could see how smoking it all the time would make you paranoid. So I just stopped. I'm 22 now and I've only had just a few cases of smoking weed during the last 4 years. It only made tired and slow, not that much fun.

Alcohol on the other hand well is very useful for us. It definitely makes us more sociable and talkative but lowering our inhibitions means that our boiling emotions that we would never let out do get out and it can have drastic consequences. I never drink alone or at least in large amounts alone.

>>91
DXM is a hell of a drug. I've done it way more times than I smoked weed and I still don't know why. Dissociation was for me a wonderful feeling. Many, many thoughts were had during those trips. I remember a feeling of rebirth during one of them. Now every memory of those trips are a bit fuzzy now. But I know I'll never ever get back to it because i tried…

Ketamine, pharmaceutical grade ketamine. This is a very hard drug to describe. Almost all the benefits of dxm but without the hangover or disgust. Takes you to a dream like state with very potent visuals. Makes your mind and soul one. I really appreciated it. The trip only lasted an hour though. It's supposed to have antidepressant properties as well. I felt content mostly. Also was listening the best music for it was a good idea.
My future job is going to give me the ability to be around and use this though. I'm afraid I might get addicted. It's probably gonna be a once a month thing though.

31af3e No.102

>>100
Yep. I only do it once every two months and the trips are amazing.
I try to have a notepad and pen on hand in case I have to write anything down while tripping. I acquired a taste for new music and literature while under its influence,too.

2529b0 No.109

Where are you from anon?

09f263 No.119

>>28
I find stimulants are nice. I used to abuse alcohol because of the dopamine rush it gives with the first few shots that gets you going. Then I discovered stimulants and they are better at the same thing. They get you motivated to be social. If you don't want to do illegal drugs, give phenibut a try. It enhances my sociability greatly and can be used in a weekly fashion.

946479 No.132

>>74

>People joke because dude it's just weed

dude i hate that so much. do they not understand that high amounts of cannabis can produce intense paranoia and anxiety?


17b95c No.138

>>28

I abuse alcohol pretty consistently. Getting drunk and playing League or some other online game is my ideal friday night.

I don't like weed and hate the people/culture around it.


5df361 No.143

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>>93

Off topic here, but that picture would suggest schizoid fake emotion would you say that schizoids have no emotion. I think I fit the bill however I do have emotions. Or is it that you fake the wrong emotions?


aff277 No.149

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>>143

Most schizoids are not devoid of emotion, but just have trouble expressing certain emotions (usually extremes like anger or joyfulness). I can feel happiness and sadness in my own solitary comfort, but around others I'm usually so absorbed in my own thoughts that I appear bored 100% of the time. This can be a problem because not expressing emotions in certain events may direct attention towards me, which can cause a far worse interaction than having just faked it.

Personally, I'm not very good at "faking it". As far as being social around people goes, I can tread water, not swim. About a month ago one of my co-workers went into labor and delivered a dead child. Another co-worker and I both heard the news at the same time, and while she was utterly shocked and heartbroken upon hearing the news, almost immediately I went to go find other menial shit to do because being I can't deal with being in a situation where I'm supposed to act sad or surprised.


e04879 No.151

>>149

Alright that makes sense. I can say half the shit I do is in some way a

device that I use to hide away. In my schooling days I would always carry a book with me and retreat to that book when ever talked to. When I did not have any thing to retreat to it was hell. I wish I could be more out going. ..


02b3e2 No.157

>>151

I feel the same way too anon ;_;


8b4883 No.189

I got diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder in 2013 and I did marijuana a lot in the past, got really sick from it. I'm now suffering from obsesions and occasional visual pseudohallucinations. Doctors and therapists thought I was suffering from schizophrenia or a drug induced psychosis because of my pseudohallucinations which they first interpreted as real hallucinations.

My doc said I'm not schizophrenic and my therapist told me last week they might come from a kind of a dissociated disorder (childhood trauma and so on).

So yeah I think it's dangerous to do marijuana and other drugs with a SPD. For me it seemed to kind of "boost" my "schizo'ness" to a higher level and made everything worse and I read something similar from another guy with SPD on another board some time ago.

Sorry for my bad English.


d3913e No.231

>>36

Weed helps but for a few hours. You actually start enjoying things. I hadn't had this feeling for like 6+ years. But I realized that it's just a drug and an illegal one in my country too.

So I chose not to continue smoke and actually try other ways.




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