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question for /sci/ 02/05/15 (Thu) 18:24:23 No.1552

i have a question for you /sci/:
Was i born a lesbian or was it my childhood environment?

02/06/15 (Fri) 03:54:07 No.1562

There are somethings science doesn't currently know, the last time I read on this topic that was the case.

02/20/15 (Fri) 09:40:18 No.1748

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so if we find a gay gene or gene sequence, will we need laws to protect kids with said gene(s)?

02/20/15 (Fri) 10:12:14 No.1749

I know there's plenty of evidence that this happens in the womb with gay men, but I don't really know what studies have been done for lesbians.

02/20/15 (Fri) 10:35:17 No.1751

>>1748
that's a different discussion entirely.
However, I would say creating a special law for specifically homosexuality is a very bad idea.

I don't really have much of an opinion on this matter, however I'll just say that if you wanted to prevent that sort of thing, it would be a better idea to just have general laws to prevent any gene discrimination. For example you could just make DNA sequencing of unborn children illegal or something to that effect.

02/21/15 (Sat) 04:51:05 No.1761

>>1552
Depends there were some instances in certain cultures where the promotion of homosexuality served a certain social/practical purpose.
However in many cases its likely tied to your development in the womb and not necessarily due to genetics.

02/21/15 (Sat) 07:36:44 No.1762

>>1748
The problem with that is that if the baby she wants to abort for reasons completely unrelated to the fact that the baby she is carrying just so happens to be gay, there's a problem.
Of course, the baby would have to be found to be gay first, but in a scenario where genetic analysis of unborn children is common she's very likely to find out if her baby is gay.

02/21/15 (Sat) 08:16:17 No.1763

>>1751
so no aborting downs syndrome either?

02/27/15 (Fri) 12:07:08 No.1846

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ITT Eugenics

02/28/15 (Sat) 23:06:25 No.1863

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>>1846
>fascist justice

le political buzzwords

03/01/15 (Sun) 12:54:59 No.1867

>>1846
>fascist justice movement
that sounds just as retarded as Social Justice

03/04/15 (Wed) 05:49:43 No.1895

>>1748
I don't get what you mean. Are you saying that abortion in general is okay but not on the basis of sexual orientation? Why not? It's the mother's choice and she should be able to make it for any reason she wants.

03/04/15 (Wed) 12:22:15 No.1896

>>1895

If you can determine that then it's probably alredy too late to abort.

03/09/15 (Mon) 04:55:17 No.1926

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>>1751
Then we'll have actual abominations everywhere.
Don't you think it's humane to euthanise such creatures ASAP? Both for the infant's good and its mother.

03/09/15 (Mon) 18:13:22 No.1931

Women seem to be, on average, more flexible than men when it comes to sexual preference.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/gay-and-lesbian-well-being/201105/sexual-orientation-is-it-unchangeable

03/14/15 (Sat) 13:20:49 No.1962

jury's out esse
but I'd say little of column A, little of column B

03/30/15 (Mon) 17:29:30 No.2035

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>>1748
>>1751
>>1762
>>1763
>>1846
>>1895
>>1896
>>1926

03/31/15 (Tue) 12:46:21 No.2038

>>2035
But the baby's essentially a parasite, leeching off of the mother/its host.

Does that mean that it's murder to get rid of tapeworms?

04/05/15 (Sun) 22:59:01 No.2057

>>2035

It can't be 'someone else's' because there's no other person there, just an inert lump of growing tissue. Genetically unique tissue, true, but there's no person there.

Also you're not entitled to leech off of someone's physical health to maintain your life. You can't steal food from people's mouths to feed yourself without their consent; so why is OK for fetuses to do it without criticism?

04/06/15 (Mon) 11:58:18 No.2059

>>2038
But born babies are essentially parasites too - they don't have a physical connection, but they're just as dependent on the parents.

Does that mean that allowing a baby in your care to die (by not feeding them) isn't homicide?

The physical dependence argument is compelling, but it isn't the real reason. Suppose it was possible to put fetuses of any age in incubators and let them be born anyway, and that this procedure is exactly as difficult as a normal abortion. Would you seriously want every abortion to instead be the source of a fully disowned child? No, you probably would just want them to die quietly.

The only thing that makes sense is that we are simply allowed to kill humans who are as undeveloped as fetuses are, just like cats and dogs and pigs.

04/10/15 (Fri) 11:06:48 No.2072

>>2035
/pol/, instead of using recycled pictures to refute a point I didn't make, how about you address the actual point?
Do you think it's fair that a horribly deformed baby should be forced to exist? Or that its parents should be forced to raise it?

04/28/15 (Tue) 16:56:23 No.2172

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>>1552

Here's the fun part ==NO ONE FUCKING KNOWS==

No one knows how sexuality works , and anyone who claims to know is a fucking liar . To the extent of my knowledge even EST doesnt work all that well , then there was the absolute bullshit about the Gay gene .It could be argued that in the first 7 years , a child could be influenced in either direction , but that flies out the fucking window since until puberty those lil shits don't understand anything about sexuality and think kissing is gross .

Then there is the whole hormone debacle which is still argued in the transsexual ilk , basically what the whole argument is , is that during the natal period if a male baby is flooded with estrogen due to hormonal stress experienced by the mother it could result in a transsexual boy or a gay baby and vice versa . All in all a this makes the most sense ,since it is proven that gay male brains look feminized and lesbian brains more manly .Testosterone boosts libido .

And finally we have the social aspect of this debacle. Now here I personally see everything related to social pressure as total bullshit because ==FUCK THE SOCIAL SCIENCES==

I went through a transsexual MtF phase with high sensitivity towards testosterone while it being on the low side I go both ways so go figure

05/06/15 (Wed) 15:23:14 No.2264

>>2172

may i have the source of that gif, please.

05/06/15 (Wed) 19:37:16 No.2265

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Poor OP's thread got derailed.

I finished by term paper on causes of faggotry a couple weeks ago because it affects me personally.

Genetics likely plays some role in it, but no "gay gene" has really been identified consistently. For example, xq28, which is an extra band on the x chromosome, has been studied since like the 80s, but there really isn't much consistency for it being a "gay gene".

There isn't really any evidence that points to a specific childhood experience or set of experiences that cause faggotry.

Even stuff like molestation and sexual abuse doesn't really have any significant effect.

And having gay or straight parents isn't identified as a causal effect of faggotry, although there may be some correlation, perhaps gay kids are more likely to come out to gay parents, or even a gay genetic trace if one parent is biological.

The most evidence that I've found as a cause of faggotry is the womb environment. The fetus brain can be "masculinized" or "feminized", even if the body is different.

So yes OP, we probably were "born gay".

07/16/15 (Thu) 05:17:49 No.2800

>>1552

Who cares

You choose what you are

But I read something about lesbian having an hypothalamus with a size similar to heterosexual men or something like that

Basically, if you have a bigger hypothalamus you're a straight female or a gay man

If you're not, you're a straight male or a lesbian woman

07/16/15 (Thu) 05:24:51 No.2802

>>1552

It's related to hormone exposure. Prenatal has a bigger affect than post natal.

>>2035

A zygote is not a person.

07/16/15 (Thu) 05:31:57 No.2803

>>2172

gender is based in the brain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stria_terminalis

Exposure to estrogenic compounds encourages feminization of these brain structures and androgenic the masculanization.

sex = biological = physical genitalia.

Gender/sex = social = social roles (men stronk, breadwinner, disposable, women earned, chooser, raise kids).

Gender = physical basis in the brain while simultaneously being subjective for the person experiencing their brain to decide.

07/16/15 (Thu) 05:37:34 No.2804

>>1552

do spiders learn how to spin beautiful webs and patterns or are they "programmed" to from the start?

do birds learn to fly south of the winter and give no shit about the Coriolis effect because its bullshit or are they "programmed" to?

07/16/15 (Thu) 05:41:07 No.2805

>>1552

Impossible to tell, lesbianiism is quite a bit more complicated than buttloving. But it's almost certainly a combination of genetic predisposition combined with environmental stimulus.

07/27/15 (Mon) 04:18:20 No.2845

>>2804

What if they're "programmed" to learn to how from start the way human babies are programmed to learn how to walk? Your question is kind of ambiguous. That said, I think I recall somewhere that many lifeforms cannot dynamically adapt their brains the same way humans or mammals can. So maybe the answer is no.

07/27/15 (Mon) 19:29:35 No.2846

u cant born lesbian.

if u born in town where all people are men. u cant do nothing, all your thoughts is just inheritance

from your expirience.

so if u dont like mens - its only if your parents was not good, your father was too rude, ur friends not too sincerest

07/29/15 (Wed) 20:16:20 No.2856

>>2846

learn some actual goddamn English

07/30/15 (Thu) 03:16:15 No.2859

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>>2845

>to learn to how from start the way