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 No.943

Why is it when a White European man/woman mates with a Black African man/woman the baby's racial features are predominately African instead of White?
>pic related
No political correctness, I need the full truth.

 No.944

The "African" features (like curly hair, brown eyes) tend to be dominant alleles.

Also I'm guessing you're white. You would naturally ignore white features as normal, and immediately notice any African features as unusual. So it's possible you're looking at these babies in a glass half-empty way.

 No.951

>>944
Why are they dominant? Are those features more advantageous than White European features?

 No.953

Because when you throw a bucket of sewage into a pool it's all contaminated.


>>951
Dominant does not equate to good.

>Are those features more advantageous than White European features?


Probably

in Africa.

 No.954

>>951
Well hair texture and eye color don't have any big advantages in terms of helping an organism survive. Skin color does as its a function of latitude , but even that is mitigated to a good degree.

I'm mixed , but i doubt what my curly hair and brown eyes would be anymore or less (dis)advantageous if I had straight hair and/or blue/green eyes. Even in an instance of sexual selection where certain physical traits are a phenotypic indicator of a healthy mate , hair texture and eye color as big factors in such an occasion are unlikely , but may have a nonzero contribution.

 No.957

are you sure you are not just ignoring the "white" features of the baby?

 No.958

are you sure you are not just ignoring the "white" features of the baby?

 No.959

>>943
When recognising people, it is imperative that this happens fast, so the facial recognition system is full of crappy heuristics. By some mechanism, people learn to recognise faces by looking at specific traits which have high variance within the group they're most familiar with. And even then, they only notice a few bits about that trait: they divide the space of possibilities such that they can specify someone's face in the minimum number of bits. If a conflict occurs, the traits to notice shift or an extra bin is added within the trait, so searching can continue.

If you don't know many black people, that means that they are thrown into the same bin for many traits. A mixed-race child has many characteristics which are still in-the-direction-of-black-people for you; their facial characteristics are rare in the group of people you know in the same way as black people are, so they get thrown in the same bin on many factors. You can tell the difference between the mixed race child's traits and the white parent's traits easily enough, because you know enough white people that you have a finely honed recognition system for white people.

 No.1069

Genetics favor preventative measures. Black skin is a result of increased melanin. This occurred as an due to the intensity of the sun as you move closer to the equator

 No.1078

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>>954

>Well hair texture and eye color don't have any big advantages in terms of helping an organism survive


That's not all though, you need to survive and reproduce, then hair and eye color can play a big role in attracting mates, the same some birds are all colorful for example.

After surviving you also need to attract the attention of the opposite sex and reproduce, if not only surviving would be pretty pointless.

And in a world were most, by far most people have black/brown eyes and hair, having red/blonde and/or green/blue/hazel eyes can be a huge advantage and this is coming from someone with black eyes and hair, those "european" features (they are also found in central asia and blond hair is also found in abbos) are more rare and therefore more interesting.

Mixed race qt3,14 for good measure.

 No.1085

>>1078
That isn't a qt…

 No.1651

>>943
I don't think this is necessarily true. With white females and black males the offspring look like freakish Africans, but white males and black females often make kids with very Caucasian features.

Male genes often come out the strongest.

 No.1658

>>943
Pale skin is considered unhealthy and is usually caused by a constant amount of incest.

>In short pale skin isn't healthy and the baby becomes dark skinned, but less dark than his ancestor.


Best example is obama and his father.

 No.1662

>>1651
This sounds like it should be clearly measurable. Got a source?

 No.1676

Recessive genes, what are those?

Why brown eyed mixed with white eyed almost always makes brown eyed?

Why brown haired mixed with white haired almost always makes brown haired?

 No.1677

>>1676
>white eyes

the fuck


and as for the hair thing, probably because children aren't born with fading hair colours. same reason bald parents don't have children who stay bald forever.

 No.1678

>>951
They are dominant because they are older. All human eyes were brown once. the mutations leading to green and blue are newer.
>>954
>eye color
Actually, toward the tropics light colored eyes reflect to much light around inside they eye. it does interfere with vision.

 No.1679

>>1676
Starting at the beginning.
For every train you get one gene from mom and another from dad.
If they both are Brown you get brown eyes. If they both are blue you get blue eyes. If you get one of each the brown trumps and you get brown eyes but you still carry the blue gene so you can still have blue eyed kids.
If mom and dad both have one of each then 75% of the kids will be brown eyed and 25% blue.
But 2/3rds of those brown eyed kids will carry the blue gene; they will have one brown and one blue like mom and dad had.

 No.1680

>>1679
To make things more complicated many genes are semi-dominant. ifg you get one of each you get in between. like light skin + dark skin = medium skin.

 No.1717

>>1680
>semi-dominant
I believe that's called Blending inheritance.

 No.1724

>>1717
fROM WIKIPEDIA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blending_inheritance
"Many biologists and other academics held to the idea of blending inheritance during the 19th century, prior to the discovery of genetics. Blending inheritance was merely a widespread hypothetical model, rather than a formalized scientific theory."

That turned out not to be a real thing but…

A semi-dominant gene is one that actually works kind of like that. Crossing a white petunia with a red petunia and you get pink petunias.

 No.1740

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Could also do with how 'white' the spouse is, and how 'black' the spouse is, since most americans have genes from both groups.


Pic related, blake's dad is a very very black man, and his mother is a very very pale ginger, yet (in my opinion) he exhibits an equal mix of traits

 No.1806

>>1662
My source is looking at the offspring of celebrities. If you think of attractive half-black females such as Leona Lewis, Thandie Newton, Amber Stevens, they all have white fathers and black mothers. Conversely, I can't think of a single attractive half-caste with a black father. They all have wide noses and crazy afros.

It's a pattern that starts to emerge if you pay enough attention to it, at least.

 No.1814

>>1740
> a very very black man
I take it you mean he is very dark skinned. We have some African immigrants where I live and they make it very obvious how much non-african blood is in American blacks. Even the darkest ones.

Also, the guy in your pick could pass for 100% Irish except for the height.

 No.1815

>>1651
>Male genes often come out the strongest.

That is provable untrue.
An hour on wikipedia will teach you why.

 No.1904

>>951
>>1676
Dominant and recessive, for genes just refers to the conditions in which they manifest.

Let's say I have brown hair, but I also have a recessive blonde hair gene.

If my partner also has a recessive blonde hair gene, our children could be blonde haired, even though neither of us have actual blonde hair.

This is why you occasionally hear about mulatto couples having white-skinned, blonde haired babies.

 No.1919


 No.1934

Well the factor of colour is so simple even a retard like me could understand: Pressence dominates absence. Niggers have melanin genes where honkeys don't, therefore black baby.
Hair curliness is actually co-dominant or something similar, apparently. Mixed kids don't have curly or straight hair: They tend to have wavy hair.
But yeah. As everyone has said, you're not noticing all the aryan master race features. Nurobians (original word; do not steal) have longer faces, long, narrow and overall more european noses as well as many other harder to define traits. Also lighter skin, since they still don't have as many melanin genes.

Also, a question: Do nurobian women have european boobs and african ass?

 No.1974

>>943
Looks more like a dog to me…

 No.1987

>>1934
>Do nurobian women have european boobs and african ass?
Based of personal experience , but i'd say about half do.

 No.2042

I don't have any specific knowledge in this area, but you almost certainly do not 'need' to know.

 No.2086

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>mixed race

Implying that bitch is a qt or mixed race.
For shame anon

 No.2093

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>>1078
>>2086
Whoops forgot to quote

 No.2110

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>>2086
How is she not? she's more black sure, but i doubt she's full on black and she's qt as fuck.

 No.2201

>>943

Because in your country you have that one drop bullshit idea and see mix breeds as just black. You call blacks guys who look more white than black.


 No.2202

>>2110

>she's more black sure

Is she really? Does her nose look negroid to you? Are her lips specially full? Her skin is not white, but it's more light than dark. Her hair is kinky, I give you that, but I don't think you could say she's more black than white


 No.2204

>>953

Yeah, and the African side of the child is also contaminated by European genes. It goes both ways, friend.


 No.2205

>>2086

Boner please no…


 No.2221

>>2202

I mean >>1078 from >>2093, not my pic >>2110


 No.2232

Nigga genes are dominant


 No.2233

>>2232

phenotipically that is ,basically half breeds between white and black are a clusterfuck as what the child will be : a rabid nigga animal or a miscreant .


 No.2286

>>944

This.

Obama has very Irish features, he looks like a dark version of his grandfather, but no one ever notices that because of the obvious Kenyan in him.


 No.2308

Was gonna make a thread on this but here it is.

/sci/, I've seen on /pol/ that racemixing can raise chances of defects and sickness in mixed-race children and can cause complications for the mother. How true is this?


 No.2310

>>2308

Race is a social construct with little basis in genetic reality. That question depends entirely on the specific ancestry of two specific individuals.


 No.2317

As someone who writes about evolution and genetics – both of which involve the study of inheritance, and both of which rely on making quantitative comparisons between living things – I often receive letters from people associating Darwin with racism, usually citing the use of the words “favoured races” in the lengthy subtitle to his masterpiece, On the Origin of Species. Of course, Darwin doesn’t discuss humans in that great book, and “races” was used to describe groups within non-human species. Contemporary use of language must be taken into account.

Darwin was not a racist. He did not, unlike many of his contemporaries, think human “races” might be separate creations or subspecies. He was a staunch abolitionist, impressed and influenced by his friend and taxidermy tutor John Edmonstone at Edinburgh, who was a freed black slave. However, Darwin’s half-cousin Francis Galton, most certainly was a racist. He wrote that the Chinese were a race of geniuses, that “Negroes” were vastly inferior, that “Hindoos” were inferior in “strength and business habits” and that the “Arab is little more than an eater up of other men’s produce; he is a destroyer”.

Obviously, these views are as absurd as they are unacceptable today, as bewildering as calling two half-Indian kids the stage names of two African-American actors. Galton is a problem figure, simultaneously a great scientist and a horror. Among his myriad contributions to science, he invented statistical tools we still use today, and formalised biometrics on humans in new ways. He coined the phrase “nature versus nurture”, which has persistently blighted discussions of genetics, implying that these two factors are in conflict, when in fact they are in concert. It was Galton who gave us the word “eugenics”, too, an idea that didn’t carry the same poisonous stigma it does today. He was enthusiastic about improving the British “stock”, prompted by the paucity of healthy recruits for the Boer war.

any prominent figures were influenced by Galton: Marie Stopes argued forcefully for the compulsory “sterilisation of those unfit for parenthood”. Both Theodore Roosevelt and Churchill desired the neutering of the “feeble-minded”, as was the parlance in Edwardian days. At University College London, Galton founded the Eugenics Records Office, which became the Galton Laboratory for National Eugenics. By the time I studied there in the 1990s, it had long since dropped that toxic word to become the Galton Laboratory of the Department of Human Genetics.

Genetics has a blighted past with regards to race. Even today, important figures from its history – notably James Watson, co-discoverer of the double helix – express unsupportable racist views. The irony is that while Galton spawned a field with the intention of revealing essential racial differences between the peoples of the Earth, his legacy – human genetics – has shown he was wrong. Most modern geneticists are much less like Galton and more like Darwin. A dreadful book published last year by former New York Times science writer Nicholas Wade espoused views about racial differences seemingly backed by genetics. As with Watson, the reaction from geneticists was uniformly dismissive, that he had failed to understand the field, and misrepresented their work.

We now know that the way we talk about race has no scientific validity. There is no genetic basis that corresponds with any particular group of people, no essentialist DNA for black people or white people or anyone. This is not a hippy ideal, it’s a fact. There are genetic characteristics that associate with certain populations, but none of these is exclusive, nor correspond uniquely with any one group that might fit a racial epithet. Regional adaptations are real, but these tend to express difference within so-called races, not between them. Sickle-cell anaemia affects people of all skin colours because it has evolved where malaria is common. Tibetans are genetically adapted to high altitude, rendering Chinese residents of Beijing more similar to Europeans than their superficially similar neighbours. Tay-Sachs disease, once thought to be a “Jewish disease”, is as common in French Canadians and Cajuns. And so it goes on.

We harvest thousands of human genomes every week. Last month, the UK launched the 100,000 Genomes project to identify genetic bases for many diseases, but within that booty we will also find more of the secret history of our species, our DNA mixed and remixed through endless sex and continuous migration. We are too horny and mobile to have stuck to our own kind for very long.

Race doesn’t exist, racism does. But we can now confine it to opinions and not pretend that there might be any scientific validity in bigotry.


 No.2347

>>2310

>race is a social construct

>little basis in genetic reality

Fuck off to tumblr


 No.2349

>>2317

>promotes race mixing

Races come from adaptation , saying race doesn't exist is just kike propaganda .Race does exist . Niggas are times more hostile to everyone then whites , claiming it's just social construct doesn't help you much .

>sterilization of those unfit for parenthood

This is a good fucking thing , because many new parents (mostly niggas and shitskins) have no idea how to raise their children and they have simply to get more welfare .We have the same problem in Bulgaria as well , fucking gypsies have a fuckton of kids and get more welfare as a result , any type of integration constantly fails simple due to the fact that they don't want to integrate and just shit on anything that is given to them. Their kids grow up in filth , I see them constantly going through trash containers .This is simply genetic memory

By the sounds of it Galton was right about many things, the only reason people don't agree today with him is notting more then political correctness .This is why scientists try not to support such studies , because if they do they lose their jobs . It is truly sad that politics have such a huge influence on science . Mark my fucking words this will lead to harm only .

Scientific research shouldn't be subjugated to moral high-grounds or conformity .This is what held us back 800 years during the dark ages .


 No.2358

>>2308

Still don't have an answer to this

>>2347

That's not a good retort. Granted he didn't give much evidence for his position either.


 No.2359

>>2349

Your spelling and grammar leads somewhere to be desired, but I'll respond anyways.

>saying race doesn't exist is just kike propaganda

You didn't actually address his point, you just called it propaganda. I could easily just call evidence that race exists stormfag propaganda.

>Niggas are times more hostile to everyone then whites

There's cultural, environmental, and media influences. Granted this hardly justifies shit like Baltimore, but fact is most black folk don't commit violent crime. It is admittedly higher than whites though.

>something something niggers welfare

Just eliminate the welfare system. Problem solved, no need to sterilize. In fact, it could easily be argued that welfare actually tore apart the black community rather than help them.

>By the sounds of it Galton was right about many things, the only reason people don't agree today with him is notting more then political correctness

So, if that's the case, then why are there so many recorded Arab civilizations? Doesn't seem very fitting of "an eater of an another man's produce". Also, there are plenty of rising Indian businessmen as well.

>This is why scientists try not to support such studies , because if they do they lose their jobs

I doubt they'd lose their jobs, but they would indeed come under fire from the community. However, other experiments have been done on race performance and gender differences with little opposition from political correctness. Still, you're right in that the heat they get from some of the community is sometimes unjustified.

>Scientific research shouldn't be subjugated to moral high-grounds or conformity

Agreed.

This is coming from a guy who does think race exists (though not to the extent of "race realists").


 No.2364

>>2359

Its not just welfare , its many of the great society programs in general.

However another obstacle is the fact that american public schools are primarily a jobs program , not to mention that you have to undo the ghetto culture that has been festering for some 40 years.


 No.2367

>>2359

Go look up Helmuth Nyborg, will you? Granted, that wasn't exactly about race the first time, but women, but it touches on a lot of the same topics being discussed here. People DO lose their jobs over statements that aren't politically correct.


 No.2371

>>2367

Oh I don't doubt that, and it's awful. That being said, I don't remember a scientist losing their job over a study with politically incorrect results.


 No.2373

>>2371

>a study with politically incorrect results

such as ?


 No.2386

>>2373

Studies that have shown women having lower abilities in certain fields.


 No.2390

>>2386

like construction and brutal manual labor , except they won't bitch about that , they want the nice cushy jobs.Which leads me to the conclusion that women want only the prestige and status that comes from the title of the jobs and not any actual benefit to society


 No.2682

>>1806

Sooo an anecdote?


 No.2683

>>2310

Please tell me you're joking?


 No.2709

>>2310

>FsT values for human races around 0.11 to 0.153

>no basis in genetic reality

wut


 No.2742

>>2310

That's an old Liberal line.

Please try to be more original next time.


 No.2744

>>2683

>>2709

>>2742

Take your baggage back to /pol/ please.


 No.2746

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>>943

They're not, it's more that you notice them more, because you're white, from a white-majority country.

Being African, you'd notice the white features first.

Pic related, half-Kenyan half-British model Malaika Firth.


 No.2753

>>2744

The 11-15 % differnces between human races isn't negligible.

Granted they're continuous rather than discrete.


 No.2836

>>2744

You first!


 No.2867

>>2349

>this is what held us back during the dark ages

what?


 No.3009

>>2746

More like Malaika Filth what the fuck is wrong with her face. Holy shit, did she get to modeling just because of her Kenyan background?


 No.3020

>>943

Same reason for the fact that if you mix food and shit in any proportions you end up with shit.

Mix white and negro and you get negro.

It isn't hard.


 No.3024

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>>3009

Nah, fashion designers like "exotic" looking models because they stand out more.

On OP's topic;

actually, European prominent jaw is very dominant. Most first generation mixed race kids inherit it.

Compare Obama to his father and his maternal grandfather, and note the prominent European jaw.


 No.3126

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>>2349

i'm sorry for your loss of chromosomes


 No.3128

>>3009

>>2349

>>3020

holy autismo batman. some one get some chromosomes in this thread stat.


 No.3130


 No.3138

>>2317

Yeah, my abo friend from Auzie looks just like me.


 No.3139

A link I'll leave for anyone interested:

https://archive.is/IOEIq


 No.3146

>>3126

>2015

>being a creationist


 No.3183

>>2349

back to /pol/

>>3146

3/10 made me reply


 No.3248

File: 1445355103865.jpg (294.86 KB, 1000x1000, 1:1, clown.jpg)

>>1078

I wonder what evolutionary advantage does big poofy clown hair serve?

Does it make them appear larger and frighten away predators?


 No.3249

>>3248

It works as thermal insulator, against brain overheating in full sun.

Plus yes, it is essentially a lion's mane when you combine it with beard.


 No.3253

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>>2317

>Obviously, these views are as absurd as they are unacceptable today,

Society deeming something "unacceptable" shouldn't matter when it comes to science. Science doesn't give a fuck about your societal values.

>Marie Stopes argued forcefully for the compulsory “sterilisation of those unfit for parenthood”.

Maybe I'm a massive bigoted shitlord, but at least giving the genetically ungifted incentives to not breed seems to be worth it in the long run. Even our lord and savior Hotwheels believes this.

At University College London, Galton founded the Eugenics Records Office, which became the Galton Laboratory for National Eugenics. By the time I studied there in the 1990s, it had long since dropped that toxic word to become the Galton Laboratory of the Department of Human Genetics.

Why is the word eugenics "toxic"?

important figures from its history – notably James Watson, co-discoverer of the double helix – express unsupportable racist views.

What views, and how are they unsupportable, besides being "racist"?

Nicholas Wade espoused views about racial differences seemingly backed by genetics. As with Watson, the reaction from geneticists was uniformly dismissive, that he had failed to understand the field, and misrepresented their work.

Of course he got piled. In today's social climate, anything perceived as "racist" is almost always harshly 'criticized' with extreme prejudice, but for the sake of argument, what exactly did he get wrong, besides, of course, being "racist"?

>We now know that the way we talk about race has no scientific validity.

So what you're saying is, the way you talk about race isn't valid, but you still talk about race that way, because…?

>There is no genetic basis that corresponds with any particular group of people, no essentialist DNA for black people or white people or anyone. This is not a hippy ideal, it’s a fact. There are genetic characteristics that associate with certain populations, but none of these is exclusive, nor correspond uniquely with any one group that might fit a racial epithet.

Nobody smart thinks certain genetic characteristics are mutually exclusive to a particular race, just that they're significantly more common in particular races. The MAOA gene is a good example of this.

>Regional adaptations are real, but these tend to express difference within so-called races, not between them.

I'm not following. Are you suggesting that people within a race are more different to each other than to people outside their race? Because that's pretty ridiculous.

>Sickle-cell anaemia affects people of all skin colours because it has evolved where malaria is common.

Again, nobody says that genetic traits and diseases are mutually exclusive (besides obvious things like skin colour and bone shape), just that they're significantly more common in particular races. Why do you think people in the medical field need to know your race? Because it makes it significantly easier to pin point what condition you may have.

>We harvest thousands of human genomes every week. Last month, the UK launched the 100,000 Genomes project to identify genetic bases for many diseases, but within that booty we will also find more of the secret history of our species, our DNA mixed and remixed through endless sex and continuous migration. We are too horny and mobile to have stuck to our own kind for very long.

>our ancestors occasionally mixed hundreds to thousands of years ago, something that even race realists won't deny

>therefore, one race, da hooman raec

>Race doesn’t exist, racism does. But we can now confine it to opinions and not pretend that there might be any scientific validity in bigotry.

>it's not science if it's not nice

>unironically using the word "bigotry"

Now I know for a fact everything you said was emotionally charged.

Stop making the retarded assumption that all race realists must have some sort of irrational hatred towards Blacks because they're willing to acknowledge that on average Africans aren't as smart as Europeans, and that they have an inferiority complex because East Asians are on average smarter than Europeans (in terms of IQ, anyway). Most of us acknowledge that it'd simply be better for everyone if we segregated into our own communities. It's been proven that heterogeneous communities have worse cohesion and trust than homogeneous communities. If your first reaction to that is that "People need to learn (read: be brainwashed) to be more tolerant of other ethnicities." and not "Holy shit this isn't right. These people need their own communities." then I honestly don't know what to say to you.

>lol replying to a five month old post

>implying you can stop a triggered, autistic /pol/ack from sperging out

:^)


 No.3291

>3183

>3/10 made me reply

God forbid it made you think a little.

>race comes from adaptation

That's literally the only explanation. If you don't believe that you must believe God made gollywogs for pure amusement or something. I recognize your style of "debating". I'm guessing Reddit SJW or maybe le 10$.


 No.3360

>>3253

yet your text wall still doesnt challenge the "race doesnt exist" argument.




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