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2b64c8 No.10866

ACTION
Since the dawn of the /sen/ate, /sen/ators haved talked about the constitution - fundemental ideas behind a structure. After a convent that barely anyone contributed to, and two drafts, it's time to turn this idea into a reality.

As such, I move that:
1. Xeno's constitution be adopted as the official constitution of the /sen/ate, as of passing of this action
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ivX6vFYHwufCVrlWRiN8Sd2AjqxDXuQC3b00tVljjs/edit?usp=sharing
2. /convent/ be shut down, and all contriibuters (TryingTooHard, Xeno, MIDMAN, Thompson, Bishop Squeezy III, Ju, Hatman, Mr. Duncan, and our good friend Anonymous) be recognised in an addenum to the constitution

I vote Yes, with all my 10 seats, and urge other senators to follow suit
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2b64c8 No.10867

File: 1418837656606.jpg (338.98 KB, 939x731, 939:731, image.jpg)

>>10866
Fugg. Can mods please fix my post so that it says https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ivX6vFYHwufCVrlWRiN8Sd2AjqxDXuQC3b00tVljjs/edit?usp=sharing after Xeno's constitustion, and attatching this picture to my post, please?

453ac2 No.10868

It needs to have five points:
1. Executive Branch (RJP request)
2. Bicameral system if high traffic
3. /b/ as a branch of government
4. Mathematical and scientific standards
5. GET laws (fail to generate a GET is shitposting) and Legionfag laws (Anonymous is independent but associated with 8chan)

9820e4 No.10869

File: 1418841781963.jpg (16.15 KB, 350x350, 1:1, shit just got real baka.jpg)

Unfortunately, I do not think the current draft of this constitution is suitable.

Nay, 10 seats

You also may want to read through it. It says we will not be able to have more than 3 seats…

The process you're using for adopting the constitution goes against the action which created the convention in the first place, too. We can probably circumvent that but I think it's worth mentioning.

2b64c8 No.10870

ACTION SUSPENDED WHILE I GET A REVISED VERSION UP

2b64c8 No.10874

ACTION RESUMED
Revised constitution
Changes: I've edited section headings, and moved some things around. I've removed all of the "until changed by the senate" things, as the constitution is an authoritative, but fluid document, and this should be assumed.

I've changed the independent seat number to 3.3%, as that's the current number - it was 3% before.

>>10868
I'm trying to follow Xeno's idea and keep it as simple as possible. You can add in other ideas later, as these are rather divisive, they work against getting it through the senate, so at least we've got a constitution. I hope you can see why they've been omittes.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qF6S8REAErbxNwQps9XC0OgjTDc6Ki8NECCzawhRiwQ/edit?usp=docslist_api

3f127d No.10881

For now, I'll vote yes with 7 seats on this.

>>10868
No.

>>10874
For readability purposes, consider adding page breaks to make each section have its own page, as I did in Revisions 0 and 1.
Also consider revising the first article of Section One to read:
>The Senate officially consists of one board, /sen/.

>>10869
>It says we will not be able to have more than 3 seats
Revision 1 was written before the Senate Restructure passed. Revision 2 has amended the article on Independent Senators.

845be2 No.10883

>>10867
I can't seem to edit it so as to include the picture.

42ec43 No.10886

>>10874

Shouldn't German also be listed under official languages?

845be2 No.10891

>>10886
The only official language should be English.

815a10 No.10907

As it is now we cannot vote yes.

We vote No with 8 seats.

845be2 No.10916

>>10874
I see no faults with this draft. The PF votes yea, 35 votes.

42ec43 No.10928

>>10891
>>10916

I can understand English-only, but as it stands now, French, Spanish, and Russian are included, but German isn't. This seems either unfairly exclusive, or needlessly inclusive. Either take out everything but English, or add German. Until then, ACP abstains, 35 votes.

9b0424 No.10944

I request this document be reviewed, and re-edited.
Until then RxPx will abstain.

e2991c No.10953

NF/KKK yes, 12 votes

34daf8 No.10957

I think most of the articles in this proposal need to be debated and voted on individually. The constitution should be a collation of the already passed legislation rather than a new piece of legislation that tries to solve everything.

21 votes nay

3f127d No.10971

>>10957
>The constitution should be a collation of the already passed legislation rather than a new piece of legislation that tries to solve everything.
That was the entire reason I even created a new constitution draft.
My own Revision 0 and Revision 1 consisted mostly of law that had already been passed at the time, as opposed to the alternative, TTH's draft, which was nothing but a bloated, broken, error-ridden sprawl of what I can only describe as some sort of autistic masturbatory wish-fulfillment fanfiction about his view of the Senate, with well over 99% of the content having not even been attempted to be passed into law at any point.

f25175 No.10986

The RMP votes yes, 31 votes

2b64c8 No.10992

>>10957
Most of it has been voted on individually, and passed in past senates.

77383e No.11294

FAILURE TO REACH MAJORITY
Yes: 95 (ConservAnon, Nation Party, Popular Front, Nacionalista Filipina, Revolutionary Marxist Party)
No: 39 (Ju, Republican Justice Party, Taima Party)
Abstain: 30 (Reactionary Phalanx)

2b64c8 No.11335

>>11294
I would like to challenge this ruling, as Ju's vote against was put BEFORE the revised constitution was put up.

Can I have another board volunteer make a ruling on the validity of votes made before a significant edit has been made?

9b0424 No.11340

>>11294
95 over 39 sounds like a majority to me, or does the abstain actually have an effect on the votes.

054443 No.11347

>>11294
This vote count is incorrect.

Final Vote Count

Yes: 95 (ConservAnon, Nation Party, Popular Front, Nacionalista Filipina, Revolutionary Marxist Party)
No: 39 (Ju, Republican Justice Party, Taima Party)
Abstain: 30 (Reactionary Phalanx)

This Action has passed with a 71% majority.

Abstains don't count as nays.

77383e No.11352

>>11347
I asked you about it before in the IRC, and you never answered, so I had to take the initiative in counting the votes.

054443 No.11353

>>11352
No big deal.



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