d3b9e9 No.11684
Action
To make the desolate region of Sabah a testing zone for all senate projects.
1. Sabah will be declared as territory directly under the jurisdiction of the senate.
2. Sabah will be used for the sole purpose of research and development.
3. To use the 50,000 conscripts sent to the region as a permanent security force.
AMENDMENT
4. To give reparations to to the Malaysian government equal to the property damage done.
5. To pay the Malaysian government for the land formally know as Sabah
6. To rename Sabah to Area 33
I vote yea, 11 seats.
PS: I intend to use the area for research and development of methods of terraforming.
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626dbc No.11688
21 votes nay
Death to wars of imperialism, death to the fascist PF, long live international proletarianism.
463a9d No.11690
>>11684Nay, 18 votes since history has shown that setting up camp on conquered territory tends to be a bad idea. I'm sure we can find other, less internationally controversial testing grounds which will be more suited to our needs.
3025df No.11693
Let's not disintegrate the sovereignty of the Malaysian state and people any more than we already have.
No. Seven seats.
d3b9e9 No.11694
>>11688>Fascist>Imperialism>implying>>11690If I amend it to include reparations to the Malaysian people, would that change your mind?
>>11693Xeno, you STILL need to make a PPT thread.
463a9d No.11695
>>11694I think reparations are called for pretty much no matter what. If you legally purchase all that land, I'd change my votes to yes.
d3b9e9 No.11697
463a9d No.11699
>>11697Then I change my vote to
yea, 18 seats on the condition that all of the land is legally purchased and reparations are paid in full to the Malaysian people who have suffered extensive losses. We can never bring the innocent back from the dead, but we owe it to the rest of Malaysia to treat it with the utmost respect during this time of great loss as they begin to rebuild.
War is never pretty and it is never fun. We regret the severe loss of life and hope we won't have to use such a weapon in the future, but we can begin to rebuild.
d57e96 No.11740
Sabah is (currently) under the jurisdiction of the Malaysian government and its people. Under the aftermath of war the most important priorities of the state is to rebuild and redevelop.
Reparations and developmental aid are of the highest priority in this region, and as such, must remain to the (current) rightful owners of this land.
Taking over NF/KKK Supremo!!gEDvQH2IxY, I vote Nay, 12 seats
d3b9e9 No.11746
>>11740As it stands, the state of Sabah is nothing more then an unusable wasteland. The best we could do for the people of Malaysia is to give them reparations for that damage done, and purchase the land from them. I'm guessing you don't want what's best for the people of Malaysia, though.
d57e96 No.11751
>>11746As it stands, the unusable wasteland will continue to be a wasteland and might even be a permanent wasteland if it's handed over to the senate to be a testing zone. Moreover, it's highly unlikely that all "research and development" will repair this wasteland.
d3b9e9 No.11756
>>11751My point is, that it will be completely useless to Malaysia. Best thing we can do for them is to give the reparations, and pay for the land. I never said that the R&D would restore it, just make it useful.
d57e96 No.11761
>>11756Reparations are important yes, but you mustn't forget the importance of land.
I propose Sabah be leased to the senate for a period of time, after which ownership would be relinquished from the senate and back to the sovereignty.
d3b9e9 No.11763
>>11761For how long would that be? The land is unusable, and they would be paid for the land as well as receiving reparations.
d57e96 No.11769
>>11763And should they not continue to receive reparations from the actions of the previous leader of NF/KKK and the (frankly overzealous) reaction of the rest of the senate which is an Exterminatus-tier solution that lead to a wasteland?
By then, the Malaysian people can easily rebuild and redevelop.
d3b9e9 No.11774
>>11769Oh stop playing dumb, Mabini. We all know why you don't want us to have Sabah.
d57e96 No.11775
>>11774Now, now, there's nothing in the constitution stating I have to justify my votes or the motives behind my votes, right?
d3b9e9 No.11776
>>11775No, but I should point out that you're nothing more then a 2 faced snake. You'll fit in just fine here.
d57e96 No.11781
>>11776I know I'll fit in just fine here.
30e1eb No.11786
efb469 No.11787
Nay, 31 votes.
I hope this is just a single silly action by the PF and not a full political degeneration.
No to imperialism!
efb469 No.11789
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>>11787Furthermore, we will be forced to take action should this imperialist proposal pass.
The workers of Sabah are not happy.
dd3a95 No.11790
>>11789There are NO WORKERS of Sabah. The whole state has been vaporized. It's a desolate wasteland. Come to the IRC if you need me to bring you up to speed.
efb469 No.11791
>>11790u wot m9
After doing a fact check I find the obliteration of Sabah's population and land an abhorrent act. Regardless, I understand that this may have more to do with necessity than anything else.
However…I'm willing to change my mind on this. Vote changed to
Yes, 31 votes.
626dbc No.11793
>>11791You're comfortable with sending 50,000 conscripted citizens on an unprovoked invasion of another nation's sovereign territory?
efb469 No.11794
>>11793Reparations and another payment are to be made, plus it's not like Malaysia is going to have anything other than a burden taking care of this desolate region.
626dbc No.11795
>>11794Well, it's a good thing we know they will accept the offer and won't oppose our conscript armies by force.
Oh.
5c16c6 No.11796
>>11795Most nations would be willing to agree with the guy with the HALTER cannon. It will be fine.
626dbc No.11797
5c16c6 No.11798
>>11797Bourgeois Socialist
626dbc No.11799
5c16c6 No.11800
fdb02a No.11802
HKLIP no 22 seats.
Phillipinos are ally of HK.
Punish should be minor.
5c16c6 No.11803
>>11802TTH, you've missed a lot. This is not a punishment. Sabah is Malaysian, btw.
75cdf0 No.11815
No, 8 seats
5c16c6 No.11816
>>11815Do you just go whichever way you think the wind is blowing?
fdb02a No.11818
>>11803Rebuild Sabah as Phillipino Land and free both Malaysians and Phillipinos to allow them to rebuild.
Yes 22 8c3990 No.11852
Abstain. 12 Votes.
75cdf0 No.11856
6d2a37 No.11860
>>11856kek. Good to know.
6d2a37 No.11863
Since Comrade Carter isn't present, I use my right as chairman to utilize his votes. Yea, 12 votes.
0d73cd No.11866
Hesitant yes, 33 votes.
ba1633 No.11867
18 yeas, 17 abstains, with the abstains defaulting to yeas in the event Cherenkov does not claim and modify them by the voting cutoff.
6d2a37 No.11879
Final Vote Count
Yea: 155
Nay: 41
Abstain: 29
This action has Passed with a 79% majority