56a4f2 No.11685
There have been talks recently about reforming the prison system. With the weapons bill passed, it is now imperative upon us to improve the living situation of prisoners. Currently they are overcrowded and overworked, with nonviolent offenders being forced to join gangs and engage in violent, primitive forms of tribalism and what can only be described as egregious degeneracy just to survive.
It is for this reason that I am urging the /sen/ate to vote yea on the following action:
Action: Prison Reform Bill
Prison Labor
Noting that for-profit prisons are not only immoral but actively contribute to high rates of incarceration, this bill shall ban private, for-profit prisons. All correctional facilities under /sen/'s jurisdiction shall be run entirely by the state. No private contractors shall be allowed to profit from prison labor of any sort; all prison labor profits shall go towards funding the criminal justice system itself, specifically any debts of the convict in question, with any potential overhead going towards upkeep of the prison at which they are incarcerated. This bill also specifies that prisons shall be inspected on a regular basis to ensure that all labor meets legal occupational safety and health standards.
Gang Activity
Prison gangs are a serious problem. Getting new tattoos (a prominent step towards gang membership) are already banned within prisons themselves, but the steps taken to remedy the situation so far have largely included segregating gang members from non gang members. This is wise, but I am recommending that as a part of this bill, each correctional facility have a dedicated tattoo removal program. All tattoos on a prisoner shall be documented upon arrival such that any tattoos added while incarcerated shall be immediately removed along with any other form of body modification received, so long as removal is possible. Gang members from the same gang outside of prison shall be segregated not only from non-gang members but also from other members of their same gang.
Solitary Confinement
Although solitary confinement is already taken as an extreme measure, it has been shown to be a resounding failure which can bring about signs of mental deterioration and illness. This bill will attempt to remedy solitary confinement by requiring that prisoners in solitary confinement be allowed at least one hour of socializing per day (ideally face-to-face communication with non-guards, but socialization could also mean approved phone calls or internet communication), noting that all socializing shall be done under surveillance for the duration of the hour.
Weapons
Most makeshift weapons in prison are produced from objects provided by the prison such as razors and toothbrushes. As an alternative to providing prisoners with razors and plastic toothbrushes, this bill requires that prisoners be actively shaved on a daily basis by a third party, allowing for facial hair and individual styles (to a point, noting that anything presenting a hazard or distraction will not be an option) while preventing prisoner access to razors. Any pens used to write with must be returned at the end of the day, and plastic toothbrushes will be replaced with rubber ones.
These reforms will not be enough to improve prisons to such a substantial degree that change occurs overnight, but addresses some of the primary issues facing prisoners on a daily basis, with further reforms possible in the future.
AMENDMENTS
Prisoners will be paid competitive wages relative to legal day laborers in similar fields, though their earnings will be distributed by the state itself, with respect to the priorities already laid out in this bill.
Parolees can either be in a work program attempting to find them work in the private sector, or continue their manual labor as a government employee for a period of time not exceeding half of their parole, so as to allow for adequate reintegration into the work force.
Private entities are banned from profiting from prison labor. All cleanup crews must be on public or government-owned land such as sidewalks and parks. Any construction work will be for public transport and will be restricted to non-essential manual labor so as to avoid any possibility of sabotaging of public works. As a rule, during the hours in which convicts cleaning up or working, the area in question will be off limits to the general public for their safety and to avoid potential prison breaks.
>Also, I'd like to amend this to require all prisons to have soap on a rope and guards in the prison showers themselves. Gross business, but necessary. It's funny until you're taking it up the ass from a 300-pound wall of muscle nicknamed "Tiny."
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56a4f2 No.11686
Voting yea, 18 seats as the author of this bill.
c82557 No.11687
I vote yea, 11 votes.
Most prison systems are an affront to everything that is decent and humane.
56a4f2 No.11691
Also, I'd like to amend this to require all prisons to have soap on a rope and guards in the prison showers themselves. Gross business, but necessary. It's funny until you're taking it up the ass from a 300-pound wall of muscle nicknamed "Tiny."
56a4f2 No.11721
I'm open to suggestions if people have ideas regarding things like parole or visitation.
dcc72b No.11742
If rehabilitation and reintegration to society for the incarcerated is what this bill wants to achieve, I move to make it so that the reforms stated in this bill be applicable only to prisoners convicted of nonviolent crimes. As such, separate prison facilities must be built for them.
A few criticisms:
On Gang Activity, you have tackled the issue on the premise that prison gangs are a serious problem that needs to be addressed, however the solution you have forwarded does not necessarily address the root of the problem. There's an implicit naivety when the bill thinks that segregation and the removal of identifying marks will prevent gang violence or even gang membership inside prisons. This then bleeds into the point about solitary confinement, wherein socialization is apparently required to keep the incarcerated sane and mentally fit.
When you analyze it further, isn't community and socialization almost always the spark of prison violence? A cesspool of unstable individuals with history of extreme violence is a surefire way to stir up some shit.
The point is, when we're talking about crimes that generally become a nuisance to peaceful members of the society (murder, assault, robbery et cetera), the most effective way to ensure the safety of the state and the rehabilitation of these individuals is to cut them off from society and make them realize the consequences of these crimes. Not only will this be a persuasive agenda for reintegration but this will also be a deterrent for other individuals to not commit the same mistakes that will get them into these penitentiaries.
56a4f2 No.11747
>>11742>I move to make it so that the reforms stated in this bill be applicable only to prisoners convicted of nonviolent crimes. As such, separate prison facilities must be built for them.Perhaps some of these points could be for only nonviolent offenders, but I'm not backing down from abolishing all private prisons and removing private gain from prison labor.
All prison labor.
>When you analyze it further, isn't community and socialization almost always the spark of prison violence?People deserve some form of community. People in solitary confinement for extended periods come out with mental issues, it's a form of torture.
>There's an implicit naivety when the bill thinks that segregation and the removal of identifying marks will prevent gang violence or even gang membership inside prisons.I never said it'd address the root cause of gangs and violence because fixing those root causes are beyond the scope of this bill, although I support fixing the root causes of poverty, lack of education, and few opportunities for social mobility. Prison isn't designed to address that; the measures regarding tattoos and gang affiliations are stopgap measures in place to prevent more violence right now and in the immediate future while solutions to the underlying issues are brought forward.
>The point is, when we're talking about crimes that generally become a nuisance to peaceful members of the society (murder, assault, robbery et cetera), the most effective way to ensure the safety of the state and the rehabilitation of these individuals is to cut them off from society and make them realize the consequences of these crimes.So… prison.
dcc72b No.11750
>>11747>So… prisonI never opposed the idea of prisons, I oppose the concept of comfortable prisons for less favorable individuals of the state.
56a4f2 No.11752
>>11750I don't think any of my measures make prisons particularly comfortable.
dcc72b No.11754
>>11752Ah, I believe I may have misinterpreted some provisions of this bill. My apologies.
My suggestion on the provisions being provided only for nonviolent convicts still stands, however, and if the amendments take effect, I will support this bill.
56a4f2 No.11760
>>11754Well I'm glad you'd be supportive of this bill at least in part, and I'm glad that your confusion is cleared up, but I'm afraid I don't know why you'd still only want this for nonviolent offenders if your earlier criticisms were based on a misunderstanding of the bill itself…
86182e No.11788
Yes, 31 seats.
2f7daa No.11804
Yes 22
That is how i call in votes now.
Swag.
Isn't there a cease-fire in the holidays? NSDAP/PF agreed to this!
ccac5e No.11812
Yes, 8 seats
2f7daa No.11817
>>11752Replace "Return Pen in the end of the day" with "Giving out Stabbless flexible Pens".
56a4f2 No.11845
>>11804I believe that cease-fire begins tomorrow, on the 23rd.
56a4f2 No.11846
>>11817If you can prove that such pens exist and are flexible to the degree that stabbing is essentially impossible with them, I'll change it, but you're giving them a sharp point either way. Granted, you need only your bare hands to do some real damage to another human being, but it makes sense to not grant them access to stabbing weapons which would make any violent acts easier.
0acd23 No.11848
>>11685Nay, 10 votesI take exception to the first clause. The prisoners should be able to work for public institutions - such as graffiti scrubbing, railroad laying, litter picking, and other menial tasks. These tasks are often performed under community service programs in order to advance the state's infrastructure, and give prisoners something to do, rather than just idling away in a cell all day.
Should you change this and I will happily vote yes.
3fd98f No.11850
Yea. 12 Votes.
56a4f2 No.11853
Cleanup of public spaces and institutions receiving public funding will not be considered private labor. However, building railroads for private transportation companies is not an option.
I refuse to allow this bill to allow loopholes for for-profit prisons. It's profits from private penitentiaries and profit from convict labor which causes lobbying for harsher laws and penalties which cause exploding rates of incarceration and an utterly swamped system. More than any other clause, it absolutely must remain a part of this bill.
85c970 No.11857
>>11848The problem is making sure they are paid fairly, as well as making sure the labor is for the public good, not private. I would recommend Marcus amends this bill to include such.
56a4f2 No.11864
>>11857If you could amend it to include the following:
Prisoners will be paid competitive wages relative to legal day laborers in similar fields, though their earnings will be distributed by the state itself, with respect to the priorities already laid out in this bill.
Parolees can either be in a work program attempting to find them work in the private sector, or continue their manual labor as a government employee for a period of time not exceeding half of their parole, so as to allow for adequate reintegration into the work force.
Private entities are banned from profiting from prison labor. All cleanup crews must be on public or government-owned land such as sidewalks and parks. Any construction work will be for public transport and will be restricted to non-essential manual labor so as to avoid any possibility of sabotaging of public works. As a rule, during the hours in which convicts cleaning up or working, the area in question will be off limits to the general public for their safety and to avoid potential prison breaks.
bb257a No.11868
>>11846Rubber pencils.
18 yeas and 17 abstains, same default-to-yea rule for the abstains as usual.
9105a1 No.11874
>>11853It takes a bit of an imaginative leap to go from point A (convict labor can be made profitable) to point C (harsher laws and penalties will be lobbied) like that.
Isn't the status quo of the prison system already swamped? Why should there be a problem in utilizing state assets that otherwise would've just been leeches in the system?
85c970 No.11886
Final Vote Count
Yea: 120
Nay: 10
Abstain: 17
This bill has Passed with a 92% majority
56a4f2 No.11900
>>11874I encourage you to look into the phenomenon of for-profit prisons and the lobbying behind private companies which profit from prison labor.
The issue is that when you gain economic profit from prison labor, you suddenly produce an incentive for companies to lobby to ensure people remain in prison. They essentially get slave labor out of it and profit off of the criminal justice system itself. It's an astonishingly immoral system, not to mention one which is packing our prisons full to bursting. The status quo of the prison system in the United States is so full that it is utterly unsustainable for this very reason. If the status quo of prison systems is bloated even in countries where it isn't an issue, fair enough, but that's more reason than ever to ban it.
Thanks to everyone who voted on this measure. Rehabilitating our criminal population is a step towards ensuring the proper respect for all other laws we pass; you have done /sen/ a considerable service.
ab2029 No.11936
Even though I am late to the vote, I shall show my support for it regardless.
Prisons need to be places more for rehab than half-assed punishment/slave-labor with gang connections.
56a4f2 No.11942
>>11936It is much appreciated, Caesar! It's been a pleasure seeing this measure passed.
00c2e7 No.12096
Yea, 17 votes.