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NOW UNDER N̶E̶W̶ ̶ slav MANAGEMENT

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e73a70 No.12576

Dead as usual I see?

39dc58 No.12577

Yeah

6c5e5b No.12580


a13f7a No.12581

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>>12576
>>12577
Have hope, my white friend.
The Senate is reaching new horizon.
Mind if you two email?

717aed No.12583

Is there any way to advertise the board? I mean i'd imagine senate roleplaying would be very attractive for people considering i don't know any other sites who do this.

6c5e5b No.12584

>>12583
You could always make some noise on >>>/boards/

d4666b No.12588

>>12583
Reddit does it.

3762e0 No.12590

>>12580
I wonder why :^)

9fa82b No.12600

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>>12576
>>12577
>>12580
>Tfw no one listened to me

I tried to get shitposting and scandals banned from the /sen/ate but nooo

Commie pinko stalin-marxist-lenin-jew faggots always had to shitpost all over the place and constantly insult us.

Look what happened when leftists are left in complete power of a board when in a monstrous coalition. Destruction. Their corrupt ideology was their own demise. They constantly insulted us and hated on us, calling us censoring naziboos, that we're a "hugbox", and yet immediately turn their backs and create a thug-like bond with the rest of the leftists that silenced anyone who opposed them, and STILL had the audacity to call us a hugbox.

We could've stopped it.

Don't call it a grave, it's the future you chose.

RIP /sen/, you had a good run.

59af5f No.12601

If there was an election or something to get the senate into motion again, maybe people would be interested. At the moment it's just a dump. If only Hotwheels kept the board deletion thingo.

91a800 No.12602

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YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE! IT WAS SAID YOU WOULD BRING BALANCE TO THE BOARD NOT DESTROY IT!

YOU WERE THE GREATEST BOARD /SEN/

I LOVED YOU

6843c7 No.12603

>>12600
>>12602
>All the oldfags want the leftist gone
Oh my, am i supposed to purge like i used to? Or is this board fucked beyond repair?

74146b No.12605

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>>12603
Not really, there is hope

Don't forget that democracy as a form of government was quite rare historically. It only follows that our example should fail a few times.

Now, on that, a few things

Why did our senate fail?

Invariably, it was because one party gained control of the senate. In this case, it was the leftists. However, it could just as easily been anyone else. This destroys the fun as those that are out of power can't do anything so they leave. Then those who have power eventually leave when they realise that there's no-one else there. Eventually, people pickup the pieces and try to start over. This is where we are now

As above, the problem is in 'winning' the senate. How do we prevent this (never mind banning shitposters etc)?

We could have a system where on day one, 100% of seats are available for being voted upon. On the next election day (say, one week from then) only one third of seats are up. This continues for the second and third weeks until each week only has 1/3 of the total seats being voted upon. This means that it is much harder to maintain a majority for any one party/coalition. Eventually, though, this too may fail because the electorate simply isn't volatile enough to produce much change in the way of voting intention.

This could lead on to others things, but for now, I think that starting again with the one third voting rule could change things enough such that we won't get a permanent majority for quite some time.

Anyone else's thoughts?

8fd3a6 No.12606

>>12605
Nice job. You now know the solution.
It looks like you are suggesting "tri-cameralism" or a three part senate.
Remember me saying that two senate having a cycled election time with one being called "House of representatives"?

8fd3a6 No.12608

>>12605
And one more thing:
/co/ had started "whacky races" by collaborating with major boards (not too shitposts and very civil i might add).
http://8ch.net/co/res/85661.html
DOC: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rTYgwA-DajgjpgNma6H2SZweXkojmpsKmt6t6mKXg9U

And it looks like HotWheels approved the 8chan /sp/ GETball competition, so yeah… Heil HotWheels
http://8ch.net/sp/res/109569.html
https://get.4ch.net/getball.7z

Cross-board collaboration and large scale communication is the most critical factor in board activity. We need to be better than this.
Suggestion:
sticky citizen query and suggestion thread
Board-specific "state" elections thread
Spread our name in major boards and collaborate with owners and volunteers

c955f3 No.12611

>>12605

interesting thoughts.

f97449 No.12627

>>12600
As the original actual leader of all of the commie stuff that popped up, I can confidently say the only real reason why we got so much power in our coalition in the first place is because the right was completely unable to organize a coalition of their own. Hell, it was one of our main goals from the start, just so there would be more competition.

What the board really died from was inactivity and the somewhat flawed concept /sen/ was. Everyone suddenly realized that everything stagnated after the first few weeks and left.

f97449 No.12628

>>12605
Partially agree with this, however, I don't think we really honestly had total power, at least while I was still in charge. At any time the right-leaning parties could of easily organized against us, but it just never happened.

The main issue, I think, was that our coalition was essentially a collection of completely empty parties that we'd just vote for, so our coalition would get more power, even though it was essentially just the Popular Front. Shady as fuck, but it definitely wasn't on purpose, at least on my end. Multiple parties, which appeared active at the time, opted to join us. They'd then slowly go inactive, and we'd be struggling to find someone else to take the lead, and no one actually would. I was going to suggest kicking them out of the coalition, but I become inactive due to boredom myself, and leadership went to Kane. If a moderator actually would of looked at our coalition and realized half of it wasn't actually active, it wouldn't of happened.

f97449 No.12629

Triple-post, only because it's late, and I keep fucking forgetting stuff I wanted to mention.

The two things that I think would need to be fixed in someway to keep /sen/ active isn't necessarily a restructuring of how the /sen/ate seats are/how the voting works. Instead, there just needs to be two things: an active moderator team (Which we had at first, but then got replaced by a pretty mediocre team) and some kind of system in place so the /sen/ate actually affects something. Whether it's a tacked on game mechanic, someone appointed to a GM position who rolls/writes how the country reacts/does under our new laws, or whatever.

59af5f No.12634

>>12606
Not tricameralism, just third of the senate elections, like in the good old Senate of Australia, where senators have 6 year terms, but half the senate is elected every 3 years.

59af5f No.12635

Anyway, there are still a decent ammount of us here. If Xeno ran an election/got more volunteers to run an election we could get this off the ground again.

58ec43 No.12636

>>12634
Cycled Elections for parliament…
Well in a broad sense that is still tricameralism in one room.

74146b No.12637

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>>12636
Basically yeah

>>12629
>>12635
So, it seems that for the new senate, we should do three things

1) Have a 'staggered election' system (not sure if that is the technical term for it) where all 100 (or should it be 99?) seats are up for election initially, then 1/3 of the seats are up for election every week.

HOW THE SEATS ARE DIVIDED

The seats will initially be divided into three, so Section 1, Section 2 etc. Section 1 will have their election first (after the initial election). That cohort will forever be known as Section 1. It will have an election three weeks later. The next week, Section 2 has an election. It will have another election three weeks later. The same goes for Section 3.

2)Moderation needs to be stepped up. Each member of a coalition has to actually exist for their vote to count in a 'bloc vote'. Mods need to ascertain whether a coalition has any empty spaces or not. If they do, then that coalition loses votes proportional to the members that are no longer with them. That will probably be worked out on a case-by -case basis.

3)Our purpose is to do as much as we can for the real world and also to create a series of laws that govern what we believe the world should look like.


These are three steps that we should take in the new senate. I hope that the relevant mod knows what to do from here, as we, the users, can't.

d10c0d No.12638

>>12637
One more note:

8chan /sp/ GET ball: Approved by HotWheels and got extra technical support
http://8ch.net/sp/res/109569.html
https://get.4ch.net/getball.7z

/co/ Whacky Races: Approved by multiple Board Owners and Volunteers
http://8ch.net/co/res/85661.html
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rTYgwA-DajgjpgNma6H2SZweXkojmpsKmt6t6mKXg9U

8chan Senate: Still in Beta Testing
1) Does not have electoral college
2) Does not have support from other baords
3) Board Ownership and Censorship in gray area
4) Board activity not yet in its prime

d10c0d No.12639

>>12637
Observe
>>12609
>>12622
>>12626
See how we have Authority from /israel/ and /sp/ just by interacting?

That is something we need.

d10c0d No.12641

>>12637
[20:48] <TryingTooHard> Hello
[21:00] <copypaste> hi
[21:00] <TryingTooHard> This is hotwheels right?
[21:01] <TryingTooHard> You should promote /sen/ into something more… fun.
[21:01] <copypaste> /sen/ is autism
[21:01] <copypaste> nah
[21:01] <TryingTooHard> Well… shit
[21:02] <copypaste> i really do not get it
[21:02] <copypaste> it's not a real govenrment or anything
[21:02] <copypaste> it's just playing pretend
[21:02] <copypaste> p ebin but autistic too
[21:02] <TryingTooHard> It got too much shitposting, it used to be good but now… too bad
[21:03] <TryingTooHard> I mean if /sp/ can get some help, we could too
[21:03] <copypaste> what help would you like?
[21:04] <TryingTooHard> A miracle from God where he reach down to /sen/ and say "You are the chosen one" or something like that
[21:04] <TryingTooHard> I hope you won't smite me for that, i pray
[21:05] <copypaste> lol
[21:05] <copypaste> maybe giving it some actual power? :^)
[21:05] <copypaste> it could be fun if it wasn't all just pretend
[21:05] <copypaste> if the representatives elected could actually make decisions that affect 8chan
[21:06] <TryingTooHard> Yes, actual power to give "Power to the people"
[21:06] <copypaste> for example, what features to write, what board to be board of teh week
[21:06] <copypaste> interesting idea
[21:06] <copypaste> what other powers should it have?
[21:06] <TryingTooHard> I would say the power to allow everyone in 8chan to write the "8chan constitution" with your signature
[21:06] <copypaste> obviously it could never decide something like "globally ban swami"
[21:06] <copypaste> that's unconstitutional :^)
[21:07] <TryingTooHard> You are God, you can Veto anything ;^)
[21:07] <copypaste> lel
[21:08] <TryingTooHard> What document sharing site do you use? Maybe we can start writing for something real
[21:09] <copypaste> google drive is ok
[21:09] <copypaste> a senate to decide the direction of the site is a good idea though
[21:09] <TryingTooHard> {insert link here}
[21:12] <copypaste> it's late here but i'll look in the morning
[21:12] <copypaste> looks cool so far though
[21:12] <TryingTooHard> Okay, thx

f97449 No.12642

>>12641
I admit the idea is interesting. But I legitimately don't want to be involved in anything if you're in some kind of official position TTH. You're extremely incompetent.

a38055 No.12643

>>12642
Incompetent i might be, but i would pass the ball to You, ConservAnon, Bishopric or Erich if things start to roll. Xeno fucked up big time and the right wing need to step up and play…

a38055 No.12644

>>12642
Not really being weak here, just want to stand on the fence for everyone in order to get what i need, respect creates alliances

59af5f No.12645

Interesting. I liked the stupid letters that we sent to world leaders in the first few senates, but this Actual power stuff seems pretty cool.

As for moderating, I'd be happy to do it, but I'd probably not run for election.

273149 No.12646

I shall forward the following onto copypaste

"The Curia

A group of 8chan board owners and other elected representatives with Hotwheels as the head

It shall be split 50/50 board owners and elected respresentatives.

It shall include the top 25 board owners, determined on the last Saturday of every month.

They shall meet to discuss major sitewide changes, additions and plans for the future.


___

Please post your thoughts on the above

8e69ca No.12647

>>12646
Make it Top 50 board owners and elected representatives so it has both relatively large and small boards.

273149 No.12648


8e69ca No.12649

>>12648
Are you in IRC?

74146b No.12650

>>12649
which line?

74146b No.12651

>>12650
line/channel

8e69ca No.12652

>>12651
#8chan or #/sen/

59af5f No.12654

Not a fan of the forced board collaboration tbh.

I would rather they stand and get elected, then get gerrymandered in.

a4b1e5 No.12655

>>12654
What do you mean?

9fa82b No.12657

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>>12627
>The right was completely unable to organize a coalition
We didn't need to. We were doing fine and didn't see a necessity of it. Then the leftists came and shat all over the place with their double standards.
>u-u-ur all naziboos! hugbox!!!
>Hey guys lets make a coalition were we're all one body with a literally unstoppable amount of votes

bf3d43 No.12658

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>>12657
>>12600
Your tears are delicious as always Eric.

9fa82b No.12659

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>>12658
At least while we were in control we didn't turn the senate into utter shit.

364406 No.12660

>>12659
mmmm delicious.

bc125a No.12661

>>12658
Kane is back!
Wanna IRC @ #/sen/?

6a6095 No.12666

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As expected the members of /sen/ cannot into organization, and it just turns into a shit flinging contest between left and right.

0/10




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