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Dump info here
This thread is for information regarding Shillgate and some speculation on what comes up; this is the pile for the dirt that comes off the shovel when digging, so make another thread if you want to discuss something in particular. Diversions into veganism and where you get your eggs from aren't welcome.
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>>3
Look at the way the "oldfag" uses greentext here. Something is up.
No.11
I propose that (as a result of my research) we ignore Dr. Xu in this thread. I went back over everything today. He was given as an example by old, oldfag and is not necessarily anything to do with what's going on now. He's just an interesting case with some suspicious activity. At most we can only assume a connection between one of his PR firms and shillgate. There is nothing firm.
I will start a new thread later for investigating him and his son. He is a real person, but the fucking PR cloud around him is unbelievable. I've found all sorts of shit today, but none of it has any bearing on shillgate. It's just cloak and dagger bullshit.
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Also, a lot of the deleted thread from /pol/ can be found here:
http://fullchan4jtta4sx.onion.city/pol/res/1777094.html
I don't have time to go through it at the moment. It is missing everything from Tuesday evening (9pm BST) onwards.
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Entire deleted thread down to last post here: https://mega.co.nz/#F!bRViTApY!xpS3YG5ar_gTu6pDc9oSFA
Was lurking, and saw the other threads about it getting deleted. Saved and now spreading across related threads. Also, original imgur here:
https://imgur.com/a/RCQVV?
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p.s. THANKS BASED MODS FOR THIS BOARD! YOU ARE WONDERFUL!
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CONNECTIONS TO FLEISHMAN-HILLARD ETC
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>>9
Not anything conclusive but worth keeping in mind at the back of the head.
No.60
Posting mildly unrelated but interesting shit.
>yfw we're all on a sooper sekrit hit-list for visiting this board
>yfw at any moment a stray bullet through the nearest window can end your life before you have time to reac
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No.78
I turned up something last night whilst I was covering the PR behind Dr. Xu's Golden Biatec award. Full post is here:
>>69
Basically, they gamed the award and after it was announced spammed it everywhere via PRNewswire. PRN needs investigating as well as they figure very heavily in the Dr. Xu publicity campaigns. Awards are announced before they are actually presented and a couple of days before the award went out someone obviously noticed that there was precious little out there about it. Before PRN clogged the interwebz up with the Dr. Xu story, it was probably hardly heard of. It gets a cursory mention here and there, but not enough to make it look notable. A wiki article was created and deleted in early last year a short while after the publicity cloud. One wikipedophile noted that it was probably a paid for article and posted this link:
http://www.writejobs.info/2013/09/wikipedia-page-creator-editor-wanted.html
I can pretty much guarantee that Jane Westgate and Westgate Communications are behind this. I haven't looked into it to heavily yet. Someone may want to look into the source.
Once I'm done with all the PR bullshittery around Dr. Xu and MEBO, I'll start working on what PR tactics were actually used and try to find key players.
No.79
>>78
PRN is pay-to-play news releases, I'm certain investigating it will only turn up general info and nothing specific to Mebo. It's just their business, anybody pays for a press release, and they release it.
Probably the only particularly interesting thing about PR Newswire is that they are a product of UBM, which has already gotten attention from GamerGate.
http://www.ubm.com/about-ubm/ubm-business-segments/pr-newswire
At the level of these large PR companies, everything is connected
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>>79
Thanks anon. Saved me some time there.
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>>62
banned back in the day.
No.90
This place is dead quiet. We need more people here.
No.91
Are the members of the 4chan staff well-aware of this shit?
No.92
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I haven't been on here before, but I want to help.
No.97
>>94
>This site will be gone by 2016, or it will exist in an almost unrecognizable format.
No.98
>>91
There is a theory that the Jews bought 4chan, and all the mods are shills. See here >>94
I'm not completely sure if I believe it, but I completely believe they are capable of it, and why wouldn't they? Maybe Moot retired because they offered him a huge sum of money. He supposedly left the website to olds trusted mods, but mods have been hardly interacting with users at all, unlike how they used to have fun with us. Wouldn't trusted mods want to keep the spirit of the website going? Although I did see one mod thread that was pretty interesting a few days ago, but it was the only one I've seen since Moot's retirement. I did take a pretty big break from the website, but I'm not sure. All I know is that I've seen a ton more cuck threads/subliminal messaging, and Israel support threads that post Israeli propaganda against Palestine, and also even advertise the Israel Defense Force website and how to join that don't even get banned, pic related. It even almost seems like if you say anything negative about Jews or their propaganda there is a pretty bad samefag who almost seems like they're trying to adapt to 4chan culture, but doing a pretty bad job at it.
I'm still not sure though.
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>>98
Pretty sure moot said something wanting mods to interact less visibly with the userbase.
No.101
>>98
So I got banned for mentioning shillgate on a thread on /b/. It's topic was "things we learned from /pol/". There were obviously 1 or 2 Jew shills in the thread. The reason for the ban was that my post "contained a banned url", even though the only thing I said was "Do you guys know about shillgate?"
I'm not even joking, guys. Plenty of websites are mentioned on 4chan. Why would I be banned for this?
No.102
>>95
I didn't think this was real so I just tried it. It really does mark it as "spam"
No.104
>>102
Yeah, it's very curious.
No.105
So anything new? Or did everyone get bored and give up?
No.106
>>105
I found this place like a week or so ago, and I haven't found a ton of information on my own, but it would be great be able to talk to all of you guys together sometime, We shouldn't give up.
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>>106
someone still cares, cool.
I'll post what I have and write a summary later.
No.125
Platek looking like one of the albino agents from revelations. This can't be for real.
No.126
Guerilla PR's Chief Executive Officer looking like a face pasted on a stock head.
http://guerillapr.com/#what-we-do
No.127
These three are of the same guy. There was a bigger one of the shot on the far right where he looks a lot older, but I closed the tab and after finding it again I could only get a thumbnail. The first and middle pictures are eerily similar in my eyes.
It seems that Michael Ives (this guy), Will Duggan and Zoe Platek are tied together by being Guerilla PR members, as well being linked across other ventures.
They are listed as staff and founders on this site http://www.ecodads.org, whose twitter feed is all retweets of pro-GMO science blogs, climate change awareness and charities like Oxfam.
Ecodad's mission statement for 2016:
"IN 2016, WE ARE FOCUSING ON FOOD
Where does it come from? What’s in it? Where will it come from? Are insects on the menu? Really? (…) What are the pros and cons of genetically engineered foods?"
Insects on the menu? What the hell.
From linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelleifer/) I saw that:
"Along with Jory Prum, Will Duggan and Stevan Lieberman, Esq., and CAL/EPA, I Co-Created the Ecodads' iTextbook Editions (https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/michael-leifer/id879136304?mt=13) of CALRecycle's "Education and the Environment Initiative" Curriculum Units for 6-8th grade students and teachers, which were unanimously approved by the CA State Board of Education and done in partnership with the US Dept of Energy and supported by Wells Fargo, Digital Candy, the Pisces Foundation, Greenberg & Lieberman and Firewire Surfboards. The 4 iTextbooks will be launched in February, 2015."
Which means they produce environmental curriculum for schools in California, and the story is that it's a group of dads who've gotten together to make this environmentalist school curriculum. I smell a front for someone or something else.
Anyway, I'm just chucking dirt here for now. Will probably delete it and consolidate it later.
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>>127
Ok this is linked to common core.
In this press release from ecodad, http://www.ecodads.org/images/press_release.pdf:
"The first-generation apps will deliver two sixth-grade units requested by educators in both the Calaveras and Manteca School Districts. Once completed, the apps will be free to interested educators and home-schooling parents and caregivers.Successful completion and evaluation of this ecodads poject is part of a larger effort to make the EEI curriculum available to all 150,000 of the state’s science, social studies,and history educators and all 6.2million California students"
"The apps are being designed to use the collaborative interaction of the iPad to enhance the way the EEI curriculum can support the state’s Common Core Standards and Next Generation Science Standards,which emphasize inquiry-based, hands-on learning and cross-cutting, interdisciplinary teaching."
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>>127
> I smell a front for someone or something else.
What am I thinking, these people earn a living as paid shills; obviously they're always fronting for someone else.
No.130
Breaking off from ecodad.com to look at what OOF said about the family ties to the DoD with Platek.
I found this link http://www.math.cornell.edu/~anil/laterlife.html mentioning a Richard Platek of Cornell University. Apparently R Platek was a professor of string theory there. Interesting read, in parts.
Hybrid Systems and Wolf Kohn
In about 1990, an outstanding military officer and scientist, Col. John JamesJRJames, visited me at Cornell and queried me in a survey he was making about predictions of future technology for the Army. He was running a very successful hard AI unit at Ft. Monroe at the time. I assume that his visit was due to the active role I took at Army Science meetings, which I attended as the director of an Army sponsored research institute. I have always kept up with military technologies, and always have suggestions as to how to improve them. He arranged an invitation for me later to a meeting in Pacifica, California, sponsored by Lt. Col. Eric Mettala, an outstanding program officer at ARPA Mettala. They are both Ph.D.'s in electrical engineering. The meeting was devoted to the problem of how to develop control software for very large military systems. It was under the unlikely name "Domain Specific Software Initiative" , so I did not know in advance what the meeting was about. Many representatives of the control software industry were there. They assured the assembled audience that one just had to expand the scale of present software, and a budget of $900,000,000 a year for a few years was suggested to do it… We divided into three groups, to write reports. Four people joined my group, including Jane LiuLiu Home Page of Illinois and Wolf Kohn Kohn , then at Boeing. They agreed with me, and wrote a report saying that the area involved was not developed enough yet, and possibly $10,000,000 a year should go out for a few years to research it, not $900,000,000 a year to write software. This was a suggestion that Mettala accepted. When the RFP (Request for Proposal) came out, I submitted one for $2,000,000 a year joint with Richard Platek's company ORA, and won. I had really expected to be the gadfly, since I did not see a path to solve the problems.
Here is ORA today: https://www.atcorp.com/about/our-story
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>>133
Boards plagued by shills. The funny thing is, there is already a remedy against that shit.
No.135
How does this affect 8ch?
I'm legitimately curious, you guys just seem like halfchan refugees to me.
I'm only asking this because I saw the shillgate advert and wondered why you'd advertise something like that on this site.
No.137
>>135
OK, spoonfeeding time! Shillgate is a old 8/pol/ happening. People have figured out a real shilling agency that was active on halfchan and the public twitter accounts that belong to their employees. It died down and someone bought an ad recently or a glitch mad it appear I don't know. The entire thing sound like halfchan refugess, because most of /pol/ were at the time that topic was fresh.
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>>134
>Boards plagued by shills
I've had my suspicion with this. I've had the concern about the grand scheme of these things, though /v/ handles FO4 threads quite well, the average person on the internet out there wouldn't suspect a thing.
I guess it doesn't hurt to make the issue more visible.
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>>125
Shes doing covert manipulation for a living. 20.000 $ says the has owned more than one trench-coat, one of which was latex.
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No.155
I just found this board and I will attempt a summary:
Some / a lot of 4chan and 8chan shilling was done by plugmedia. Plugmedia has also astroturfed that Dr. Xu vs. Nobel committee nonsense.
Plugmedia belongs to Fleishman Hillard who do damage control PR for companies in "crisis". They are also clearly connected to Chinese companies, openly bragging about their Asian contacts.
Fleishman Hillard belongs to OMNICOM GROUP, an ad agency holding group. I don't see anyone else posting about them so pic related. Can't help but picture Mad Men when I read about their merger, kek.
>Jew York City
>fourth largest in 2002
>second largest in 2014
>15 billion revenue in 2015
>1.9 billion income in 2015
>74k employees
>100 countries
Btw, number 1 ad agency holding company is WPP in London, their stats are fairly similar, just a little larger:
>16 billion revenue
>2.1 billion income
>interestingly 121k employees, it would seem they are less efficient in some way
No.156
>>155
Pic seemed to prevent me from posting. Here it is.
No.157
You faggots really need to get a life; either that, or you need to increase your dosage.
I guess I must be an FBI agent who's infiltrated your little board, huh? Or perhaps one of the shills you speak of. JIDF? Or maybe I just haven't been red-pilled, and don't see things with the amount of utter clarity that you do.
Certainly it has to be one of the above… right?
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>>157
>You faggots really need to get a life
>says the faggot posting on a dead as fuck conspiracy board to tell a few conspiracy theorists they should find better use of their time
Looks like we're doing something we care about, and you're doing something you don't even care about. We're making better use of our time than you are.
UNLESS you belong to one of those groups you mentioned, or similar (my guess would be employee of plugmedia / omnicom). In that case, hang in there. It's a shame you couldn't score an honest job you can feel good about and proud of. Maybe some day.
No.159
>>158
Someone posted an ad on /b/, I clicked on it, and made a post that took about 2 minutes.
Look, I'm WELL aware that I'm an incompetent degenerate, and that I have no life – at least I don't pretend to be important like you dipshits. Or that I've stumbled upon something "big"; the chance that you've discovered something of real significance is utterly miniscule.
When people become obsessed with conspiracies, they eventually start to see them everywhere they look (scoptoma). Usually it begins with boredom and a need to feel special, and then, before you know it, it becomes an all-consuming mental illness.
If this is entertaining for you, then who am I to criticize; however, I would advise anons to not be so fucking smug about these things, and have a dose humility for fucks sake.
Sincerely,
Mr. FBI
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>>159
>browsing /b/
Ayyyy.
I also came here by clicking on the ad. But I disagree with you painting conspiracy theory as a narcissistic thing ("to feel special"). With how blatantly shills are active on all social and non-social media platforms, with the way you can't trust ANY product reviews or ANY economic or political commentary I do think that an inquiry into how all these things are corrupted to effectively has merit. And noone really takes credit for these findings, we don't have leaders, there's no fantasy of becoming such a leader, no way to brag about this stuff IRL or even online.
No.179
been following since I clicked the ad link. I have a friend that does work with some of these companies for corporations. he basically said that this looks all pretty average compared to what those PR places actually do. he even stated that they can cause uprisings and then snap their fingers and chill everyone out again.
either way, I compiled info from archives and commencing dig tonight. any active threads anywhere?
No.181
>>179
Crazy stuff. I suppose he's referring to Arab Spring.
Go ahead and make a new digging thread if you want, I suppose this one has gotten a stale feel to it by now.
No.182
>>181
Arab Spring was my first thought as well.
I'll wait til I'm sitting on a bit more to kick off a new bread. found a few minor connections between some key group (imo). I'll compose and dump when I get enough.
No.183
Here's a spread of some of the more useful posts from >>153
No.192
After the Tay thing this looks like an accurate description.