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I've been designing a game called "Let's Rape Little Boys" for a very long time, and these captions are part of it. They tell an overall story, about a Goddess Worship cult called "The Daughters of Lilith". If any of you go on 7chan's /ss/ board, you will have seen these, but I haven't really posted them anywhere else. They were generally well received on Tumblr and 7chan.
Hopefully this doesn't come off looking like blogspam, or shitposting.
I do like criticism, as long as it's reasonably constructive.
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I'll start with the Position Pamphlet.
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That's it for the Position Pamphlet.
The set that these were taken from can be found here:
http://exhentai.org/g/543676/54547dd3e2/The shameful blogspam post about this set can be found here:
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2014/10/position-pamphlet-retrospective.htmlA download link for this set can be found here:
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I did read these on 7chan, neat to see that you found your way here. I was a fan of the beginning stuff, like the sex positions you just posted, but after that it started getting sort of creepy and I stopped reading them.
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>>514>strap-ons and anal rape out of nowhereDropped
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>>525I'm assuming here that by 'creepy' you mean 'the women depicted seem more predatory'. Creepy is an extremely subjective term, that, over time, has come to mean a lot of different things.
In short, it got creepy because pedophiles
are creepy. On some level, I'm putting out a fantasy, but at the same time, these are going into a game, and in the game, the Lilians are depicted as a somewhat villainous group. Equally villainous to every other group, but still villainous. I could have written the Lilians as being this sort of perfect, utopian, ideal, but that comes with 2 issues. Issue 1, I'm basically just rewriting Nyar's story of the Femin Coven. Issue 2, that's not the reality of the situation. I'm a little wary of idealizing female pedophilia, partially because I posted this stuff on Tumblr at first, and had a bunch of women sending me messages implying that they took my writing much more seriously than I would prefer. That ended up affecting my writing for a little while.
Thank you for the criticism, though, it really does help me to grow as a writer. My work really has gotten dark in some places. It's something that I've been trying to balance for a while now. I think I've gotten better at it, and if I could hazard a guess, I'd say that you probably hopped off the train around the 'Windroot/Bondage Training Seminar' era. Those were particularly dark, content-wise. It's not all like that.
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This is the "Acolyte Pamphlet". It was designed to establish in the story, that the 'acolytes' of the Lilian Temple are little more than prostitutes. It is presented as a 'training guide' for the Acolytes, like a type of textbook that they read during 'sunday school' type lessons.
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>>527I guess that this game is going to be a visual novel. Are you going to be playing as a boy or a woman? Is there going to be an option to leave the Lilians?
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>>536It's more than likely going to be an RPG, but with the battle system more or less taken out, and with the focus being on speech. So, kind of like a hybrid VN/RPG sort of thing. You play as a woman, and in the game that I'm releasing soon, you choose between 2 different 'factions', and deliver kids to them.
In the game that most of these are going into, though, you play as a woman, and probably can't really quit the Lilians, although you'll probably be able to limit your contact with them.
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And here's the final page. I really enjoyed writing this little pamphlet, and love, love, love the pictures. SutekiB rocks! There's a lot of different fetishes covered, and a few of them may not appeal to everyone. For example, I've had people give
>>526 esque feedback on 26.png, the one that talks about pubic and body hair. I feel like it's impossible to cater to every fetish, and also cater to the people who hate all fetishes. At some point, you have to decide whether you're going to be 100% vanilla, or do what you want, and ignore the people who dislike it.
Of course, this has to be done in moderation. 'Delitized' is an example of what happens when you focus entirely on your personal fetishes, and ignore your audience entirely. But, there's a difference. I'm creating an overall story here, and that story is about a hippy babyfuck cult. The needs of the story come before the desires of specfic audience members. Of course, I have to balance that, in order to avoid turning off the audience. I don't want to produce 'Delitized' style insanity. It's a real dilemma.
Here's the blogspam link
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2014/11/acolyte-pamphlet-retrospective.htmlAnd the direct download link
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You obviously put a lot of effort into these. Thanks for contributing to the board and posting them.
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>>565I'm just happy to see that people enjoy my work, especially since a lot of the content is vid related for anyone who's browsed 7chan in the past 6 months.
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I think they're distasteful because they seem to involve involuntary sex and feminist ideas that boys invariably try to hurt women. Some of it is nice, but those overarching themes are not.
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>>603Any reasonably realistic /ss/ porn is going to feature iffy consent. The fact is that children cannot consent. It's going to be distasteful, and on some level, it's supposed to make the reader think about the overall issue.
These are made for a game, and the Lilians are depicted, in game, as a realistically self-serving, greedy, and corrupt organization. I temper it, of course, because I don't want to get too dark, but I'm not writing utopian fiction, here. You aren't necessarily supposed to
like the Lilians, as a group.
The body of work does feature a number of feminist themes, but many of them are taken too far, and contextualized incorrectly, to make a point about how certain ideas can start out good, but be twisted into something negative. I'm not totally sure where the 'boys try to hurt women' stuff is coming from, and maybe you can explain that further. I'm seeing the direct opposite. Of course, there is a lot of talk about how 'all men are evil, and we have to control the boys, to keep them from turning into bad men'.
The 'taken by older woman' fetish, is popular. The 'boy sex worker serving sexy women' fetish, is also popular. 2 moms fetish is popular. I try to incorporate a lot of different ideas and fantasies into my work, and so, sometimes, there might be something in there that you don't personally find appealing. When that happens, I'd tell you to turn the page, because the next thing that gets written might be exactly what you're looking for. I write
a lot of different stuff.
Again, just to clarify, the Lilians are
not supposed to be role models. If you disagree with their views, it means that you're somewhat well adjusted.
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>>605I'm of the idea that children can consent, but not exactly have informed consent. They are usually intuitive creatures that can feel "this feels good, I want this feeling to continue" or "this feels bad/scares me/is not fun".
I was only really referring to the "talk about how 'all men are evil, and we have to control the boys, to keep them from turning into bad men'"
I really like the dynamics involved, save for… taking care of icky, unwashed women. It's just that the involving of feminist memes into it is just so distracting I can't enjoy cute, happy sex.
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>>606I'm of the idea that while children know what feels good and what doesn't, the power dynamic between an adult and a child might, and often does, make it impossible for the child to say no. There's also the issue of the adults, themselves, though. That 'outcaller smell' of weed, cigs, pussy, and catbox wasn't made up. I won't go into it too far, but a lot of the particularly negative seeming stuff in these, comes from a combo of personal experience, and court testimonies.
Anyway, there is a 'slob girl' fetish out there, but that particular picture wasn't really catering to that fetish. It was mostly just me putting my personal dislike of fempeds into the story, which, probably, doesn't really need to happen. There is a balance, between 'not sugarcoating things' and 'telling a story that people want to read' that I probably need to look for. I am still growing as a writer, and these critiques are really, really, useful for that.
As for the real discussion, the feminist stuff is in here because these are being written as flavor text for a game. They're supposed to be propaganda from this cult, the Daughters of Lilith. Sometimes it comes off as a little bit heavy handed, because I'm not Kurt Vonnegut. I'm not even Chuck Palahniuk. You should also keep in mind the fact that what I've posted so far are pamphlets, so they're going to be much, much, more propagandizing than certain other materials that I've made for this.
I have gotten this particular message more than any other one, though. The story
can get a little intense, at times, and I sometimes do make the Lilians a bit more villainous than I need to. It's something that I'll probably devote a bit of time to working out, soon.
These critiques
really do help, by the way. Thank you very much for putting the time into explaining your thoughts on my work.
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These are a set of narratives that follow a character arc, of a woman who starts out married, and ends up ditching the husband, for her son. She is attempting to start up a Temple in her hometown. It's an example of one of my narratives. Up till now, I've only posted guides. The narratives are much less 'propagandizing'.
Again, any constructive critique, even if it's just about the picture choices, themselves, is helpful.
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>>607>the power dynamic between an adult and a child might blahI can't say I agree with "often does" because I honestly don't know, but otherwise I agree and that kind of was my point. "Dad/mom/sister/brother/[person of authority] wants me to do this thing with [for] them, and I want them to be happy." Which is close to submissive thinking in BDSM but it's not informed consent, so it's bad.
I don't understand why you're doing this then, but I do appreciate talking about it and stuff. I don't mind putting my thoughts out there,
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>>609I'm doing it as a hobby, and because writing is a cathartic release for a lot of the stuff that I've dealt with. I'm not the first, and I won't be the last. If you've ever read "Encounters With Rayne", you'll understand a bit more where I'm coming from. The game that these were supposed to go into is a bit of a diary, both of my experiences as a shota, and my experiences in the military. Writing helps with both.
There are a lot of people, though, who will just say 'nah man, kids can totally consent, and they
want it, too! And it's good for them, cuz you can show them the right way to do things!' If you've ever played 'Unteralterbach', or 'Babysitting Cream', you're probably familiar with that line of thinking. Personally, I'm not a huge fan.
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It looks like 8chan ate my post with the rest of the narrative, so I'll post them here. I'm probably going to do a 3rd installment of these, where the woman is a High Priestess of her fledgling Temple, and she fucks boys all day and night. Like a conclusion sort of thing. I should probably note that these were written 5 months apart, so my writing has matured between the first and second set.
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>>610I haven't played unteralterbach. It seems weird. So did babysitting cream. I don't think it's better for kids to learn from adults. And I'm convinced some kids explicitly don't want it. At the same time there seems to be a culture of victimization. But then again if someone says they feel bad from something that happened, then you can't exactly refute it and say "no, you don't feel that way!"
I'm reading it and it seems like you were really scared. I'm surprised you had a concept of sex at 11/12. I guess I really was sheltered. But then again you sat out sex ed. We didn't have that until we were 13/14 something.
I had a few much less… extreme incidents with my two or more year older female cousin. I don't remember if she got into trouble, but I certainly did. Mom shamed me something immense for it, and I think that really shaped me. I went along with the stuff my cousin did, but she was the one acting. I look back kind of fondly on it but I also hate the way things went, because it made me sort of think I couldn't be attracted to girls and want to do sexual things with them because that was wrong.
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>>611To clarify, Encounters with Rayne isn't my story, it just mirrors my experience. My experience, surprise surprise, had more hippies, and more Goddess Worship, but otherwise, it was a similar sort of situation.
I think that while there's no real way for a child to consent to sex, and while children definitely aren't ready for the sort of intense emotions that come with sexual relationships, there
are somewhat positive experiences that happen. I think a lot of it rests on the female participant, and how sane she is. Often, quite frankly, she isn't.
Court cases usually end up labeling the involved women as either Bipolar or Borderline, and that's been my experience, as well, for the most part. There was definitely something mentally/emotionally off with the women I was (put) in contact with, and it wasn't just the dumbass crystal stuff.
Pedophilia, as I understand it, is a brain chemistry/brain structure thing. The brain literally sees children as being sexually available, and acts accordingly. Meaning, the parts that 'light up' when a normal woman sees a Gosling-esque hunk, light up for a pedo when she sees a young boy. There's not much anyone can do about that, and on some level, I sympathize.
But, there can also be other issues, and putting a kid around someone who smokes pot every day, grows shrooms in her closet, and has many, many, different 'magical thinking' issues, is not a good thing.
Even if the kid could consent, and even if the sexual activity was totally positive, you're still dealing with the issues of the woman. If she's bipolar, or borderline, and according to court cases, they often are, these kids are being exposed to someone who's unpredictable, extremely needy, and prone to violent outbursts, followed up by smothering affection.
That's this kid's first girlfriend, and that's who he's learning about relationships from. That's bad, really bad, and it's something that doesn't get considered much when people think about these things. They focus on the act itself, when there's actually an entire relationship before, and after, the act. Sometimes, the sexual aspects of the relationship are the least formative. A lot of my memories with these women are of them getting me stoned or tripping out and then lecturing me for hours on various New Age or Anti-Government stuff. Either that or bitching about stupid drum circle infighting bullshit. Or cooking up new welfare schemes. Or something along those lines.
Parents do get a little extreme about keeping their kids away from sex, though. It's something that should be talked out and explained, not screamed and beaten out. There's a happy medium between "Free Love" and "Puritan Repression". I think more parents should seek out that middle ground, instead of being so extreme. Also, kids are going to mess around. That's not a huge deal. The big problems, I think, come when people who really should know better, start doing this 'serial' stuff, where they pick some 12 year old, make him fall in love with them, and then toss him away when he turns 13. I've met people who had that happen to them, and they often develop some really strange ideas when it comes to women.
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>>612>borderlinejesus fucking christ, I've experienced that as my first time and… I can't imagine a child being subject to that. I was adult and even then it was terrible.
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This pamphlet is essentially my method of providing exposition on the Lilian faith, without actually coming out and saying everything, outright. It ended up being more expository than I had initially planned, but overall, it's not too bad. At the very least, it provides the information, and for the most part, the pictures have a tangential relationship to the text.
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Personally, I think this is the weakest of my pamphlets, probably because it was written while I didn't have access to the internet, and so, the resources of the internet. I wish that I had been able to weave a narrative into the pamphlet, in some way. I'll probably be covering the aspects of the religion in a set of 'storybooks', pulled from various CG sets. I definitely want to talk about some of the more esoteric aspects of the story, and 'storybooks' allow me to do that. There's a lot of 'demon girl x shota' CG sets that I can use, and even a couple of 'angel x shota' sets as well.
I just hope that I can adapt to the changes that come with 3rd person stories and dialogue.
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.com/2014/11/chapter-17-pamphlet-retrospective.htmlhttp://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.com/2014/12/storybooks-thoughts-and-ideas.html No.668
Just as an FYI for everyone here, I've released my game. It's not the game that these are going into, and there's substantially more text content than there is visual content, but here it is.
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It looks great, but so far I've run into stuff that's kept me from getting past the beginning.
Playing as a 5 year old, I only got to the burka woman and it CTD when she was in the middle of talking. Then when I tried playing as the girl I was incapable of leaving the room, for some reason I could only move up and down, trying to go left or right would do nothing.
I only tried them once though, I'll have to try playing again later to see if the same problems repeat.
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>>671What OS are you using? I've had trouble before running this in wine, and sometimes you have to put these games in compatibility mode for newer iterations of windows. The game is based off RPGMaker2003, so naturally, there might be some compatability issues in 2015. That's one of the big reasons why I wanted to wrap it up quick, and start working on Joobachi.
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>>673I'm using Windows 7. I tried playing again and ran into the same problem, I think I might try using a virtual machine with XP and see if it gives me the same trouble.
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>>606>>607from personal experience when I was little I was ok with being made to touch an older woman but wasn't really ok being touched/exposed. I dunno, I also hated being naked in general but liked naked or almost naked women.
In this case consent is for some but not all activities.
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>>684ok with the idea, damn typo
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I tried the game. It's… interesting. Hope it gets a similar following to super columbine. I mainly played as the hikki girl, and damn if it wasn't confusing to play. But it was interesting.
Also, I'm a little worried about how much content you're putting out on that blog. Don't you work out or have hobbies or stuff? Try to take care of yourself.
>>684I guess I can really understand that. You're scared and can't understand why anyone would want to look at you with lust, when you barely understand your own feelings beyond "I like this".
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>>714Well, the writing/coding is my hobby, but aside from that, I work on other personal things. Cooking is one, with hiking being another. I've written cooking guides, and I do a decent amount of arts and crafts, as well. I used to be into target shooting, but then I moved to europe, and you can't really do guns here like you can in the US.
I do go out with friends, and I do have a life, but writing is something that I have a bit of a passion for. The sexual aspects of the story do muddle the waters a bit, but to me, this really is just a story. I enjoy the challenge of telling an interesting and nuanced story, about complex issues, while also telling a sex story.
I do write a lot, but I also write fast. The blogposts don't actually take up as much of my time as you'd think.
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This is the latest pamphlet that I've written. It goes into the 'Nun Program', and is presented as a sort of recruitment pamphlet.
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There it is! The blog post and download link for this pamphlet can be found below. I really like this pamphlet, because I feel like it expands the overall story quite a bit.
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/01/nun-lifestyle-chapter-intros-2-and.htmlhttp://www.mediafire.com/download/i1yd93oq7syapqx/NunLifestyleFinalPrint.rar No.793
OP, as much as the thought of this happening in the real world scares me, the stories you tell turn me on
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Dammit I looked through gelbooru and danbooru but I can't find the art you used with the purple haired lady anywhere. The one with the eyeliner. Where'd you get it?
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>>889[Doujin3Aries] TOKYO Shota Street
[Doujin3Aries] TOKYOショタストリート
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>>513Are you still writing these, OP? Or are you on break.
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>>1081I was taking a break for a month, and it ended up being a little bit longer. I'm back now, though, refreshed, and full of new ideas.
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>>1182Sounds good to me, OP. Hope all is well
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Hey OP you ever think about collaborating with an artist to make this into a comic or maybe a Skyrim/Fallout mod?
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>>1228>>1228That would be pretty cool - some original characters to make the story all their own
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>>1228>>1230I'd love to do something like that, but nobody's ever approached me for it. I'm making a followup to my last game / prequel to my next game, that I need some artwork for, so maybe I'll end up doing something along those lines, someday. I do enjoy expanding the 'Liliverse', and it is far, far, easier to do these things with others.
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So, here is the completed "Timid Boys Pamphlet". For those of you who browse other chans, and/or frequent my blog, you'll already know all about this, but for those of you who do not, I'll give some background.
This pamphlet is essentially a guide, presented "for" a Lilian Nun, to help them recruit boys who are far less interested, initially, in sex, or girls, or Lilian-ism. Timid Boys. It goes through the entire grooming process, and then the sex, and then it goes through easing the boys into the overall Temple environment/culture. I wouldn't call it my Magnum Opus, but it's certainly something that I spent quite a bit of time on.
It's designed to be read and enjoyed as a type of romance novel. You're supposed to read it, and then use it to create a love story in your head, which you then enjoy. More of a jumping off point for your imagination, than a straightforward stroke fic. It's also designed to expand the overall storyline of the Lilians, and give some insight into their (fictional!) culture.
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And that's it!
Hopefully it didn't move too slowly. As I said, it's written as more of a romance novel than anything else.
A detailed breakdown of each block, as well as a general overview, can be found here:
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/03/timid-boys-pamphlet-orgy-block-and.htmlAnd a direct download of the entire pamphlet can be found here:
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>>1233>Timid Boys PamphletI thought I had seen some of these on your blog before
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>>1242It does have that romance-y feel to it, and still maintains the horror of what is actually happening. My dick is confused, but accepting
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>>1250Yeah, the blog, and 7chan, is where to go for incremental updates. I normally try to have a finished product before I post here. Not totally sure why…
>>1251It's good to know that I at least somewhat accomplished the romance thing. Also good to know that you liked it. Thank you for your feedback, I know I say it a lot, but the feedback does help.
Hopefully it wasn't too much horror, though :)
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>>1306It's totally ok to post complete stories here. I like reading them as I go.
Also, it wasn't too scary. My dick knows what it likes. Thanks for keeping us informed!
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>>1235>you are not some borderliner slutr-right in the feels ;_;
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>>526>strap-ons and anal rape out of nowhereHot
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This is the Mommy Bubble pamphlet. It essentially serves the purpose of explaining what (ideally) happens to the boys after they grow up. In universe, it is supposed to be a sort of 'how to arrange a marriage for your son' guide.
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So there's the full monty. I particularly liked writing this one, especially near the end. The beginning was quite difficult to write, actually, because of the ages involved. I kept squicking myself out. But when China/Primrose came into the picture, I was able to flex my narrative muscles, and put out what I believe to be an interesting and somewhat nuanced story.
I feel like this pamphlet expands the 'universe' a bit, although, in making it, I do lose some of the 'mystique' of having the adulthoods of these boys go completely undiscussed. I guess there's no real way to get both.
At any rate, hopefully you guys enjoyed reading this one. Give constructive criticism if you can, it does help.
The download link is below :
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>>1340I'll keep that in mind. I'm kind of backing off from these again, for now, to work on Joobachi, but I'll be making some specialized content for that project, so I'll keep you guys updated there.
>>1341Yeah, I'm a little rough on my female fans. When I'd just started writing these, I was posting them on Tumblr, and I kept getting messages, from totally normal 'girl' blogs, asking for advice, 'confessing', and generally just taking things too far. I kind of made my stuff less 'girl friendly' as a sort of knee-jerk reaction. Hopefully it didn't take away from the enjoyment too much.
>>1342Thank you for the support :)
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>>1348>>1347>>1346Strong story. I really liked it. Especially the pegging.
I could feel the fears and difficulies of trying to make sure the boy doesn't get stuck with the wrong partner. It's an interesting look at the cult from a different angle.
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>>1351Thank you for the feedback, it helps a lot.
I'm glad you liked the pegging, it's kind of a 'love it or loathe it' sort of thing for a lot of people. It's difficult to balance out the different desires of the audience with these. Some people
really despise femdom in all forms, while others can't see /ss/ being realistic at all without some form of it. There's also the issue of the overall storyline, in which maledom is pretty much verboten, as far as the religion is concerned.
I tried to make Jenni's struggle to find a good wife as poignant as possible, without making it sappy and unreadable. I feel like I did an okay job, but I wish that I'd been able to put in a bit more sex, overall. Some of those pages were very guide heavy, without a lot of narrative.
I'm not sure if anybody noticed this, it was quite subtle, but I tried to write Aster/Sei as being a bit of a bad sub in this. I tried to depict him as topping from the bottom
a lot, and I tried to depict Jenni as pushing the relationship towards a more "Aster/Sei-centric" line, as opposed to just a straight femdom deal. Some of this was the source material, it's very strapon heavy, but I could have make Primrose/China a strapon freak, and I didn't. This means that the two lovebirds are focusing a bit more on what Aster/Sei likes to do (strapons) that what Primrose/China likes to do (not even discussed).
Did anyone pick up on that, or was it not conveyed correctly? Sometimes I'll put little ideas in, but have them be, at most, 5 or 6 sentences, and it ends up being missed. I don't really know how people read these, so it's difficult for me to tell.
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As an aside, and a bit of an update, I'm still working on the prequel to my next game, and I just managed to get an artist on board. She's (probably) not willing to do sex scenes, and I'm not planning on asking her to, but she definitely wants to draw an 80's style Jenni/Rinko.
The game takes place in the early to mid 80's, by the way.
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>>1443I thought it was interesting to note that Jenni was so focused on her son's pleasure over one who is supposed to be her "sister" in the Lillian faith. It could be a very interesting way to write about possible schisms in the faith and practice of Lillian love, as it feels Jenni is more interested in Aster's pleasure than Primrose's
Could we see that? A change in faith based on how close a mother is to her son? Are you suggesting that Aster is actually somewhat within the Mommy Bubble?
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>>1443>80s themeLooking forward to seeing what you come up with.
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>>1446So am I, I gave my artist some guidance on what I'm looking for, and I'm planning on speaking to her about it this Sunday. Cool pic, btw. I'll have to show it to her.
>>1444Well, I felt like it would be far more realistic for Jenni to be more interested in her son's pleasure/well-being, since he's
hers. Mothers will do crazy things to keep their sons out of trouble, or happy, or to help them succeed. Anyone who's familiar with the Juvenile Detention system has seen just how far mothers will go for their sons. Further than they probably should.
I wanted to kind of set up an idea, although it didn't
really get put forward that well, that Primrose's entire role in the relationship was to (essentially) inherit the High Priestesshood in Bangkok, and then allow Aster (Jenni) to control the Temple's drug exports. The entire marriage was just a power-grab/alliance. Of course, these aren't really ideas that you can write into a 14 page porno comic. There's nowhere near enough space, and it's way off-topic. Plus, the entire plan falls apart if you tell everyone about it. That concept will, however, be getting some exploration in the game.
I guess that in a way, Aster would be in the Mommy Bubble, not so much that he's obsessed with having sex with her and only her, but that, as a man, he can't really hold any power, himself. His mother essentially has to arrange the situation in a way that puts him in a position of de-facto power, and poor little Primrose is essentially that situation.
I'm planning on introducing schisms in the community someway, but it's incredibly difficult to do that in the format that I've chosen,
while still keeping things pornographic. It would be simple to write, say, a letter, or a leaflet or something giving story on a schism, but to make it pornographic in nature would be difficult. I put a little bit of story content along those lines in Taisen, in Medea Circe's lab. I'm not sure how many people picked up on it, but it was definitely there. It was a lot of fun to write, and relatively quick, too, but it was just plaintext, without a lot of sex.
That portion of the game's text can be found below, by the way :
http://pastebin.com/pGmYy5AAOne of the little political things that I wanted to explore, but haven't really found a good way to do so, is the tension between the Cape Town and Lagos Temples. The problem is twofold. First off, they don't make hentai with black women. My best option is the basic bitch from pokemon black&white, but even she's difficult to find /ss/ of. The second issue is that, with the format that I'm using, religious propaganda/sex magazine, there's only so much conflict you can really toss in before it the sex becomes an afterthought.
I just had an idea, though. I've written into the story that there is a bit of a debate around cherry pop age, and how extreme the femdom should be. There's certainly room for a 'tellall' pamphlet featuring 'evidence' of Temple X or Y's horrible transgressions against their boys. I'll have to think about it.
I do want to have different ideas in the Lilian faith, though. Every religion has schisms, and I can't imagine that the Lilians would be any different.
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I made the pic as a joke, but apparently, people found it incredibly arousing, when I posted it to /b/. Maybe you guys will too.
No.1469
Does your game run on Mac?
No.1483
>>1469From what I can tell, there's a couple of programs in development that allow you to play RPGMaker games on a mac, but most people are talking about VirtualBox and Wine. I know that I developed and playtested much of Taisen in Wine on an xubuntu laptop, but unfortunately, I don't really know much about mac.
Everyone on the forums seems to be saying virtualbox, though.
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I made this poster earlier today. I imagine that it would be something in a waiting room of a Temple's acolyte wing, and that's probably exactly where I'm going to put it in-game. I really like the double meanings of "carried away", and I think that propaganda posters are an excellent way to present the issues of the Temple, without overtly coming out and saying, "this is a problem".
They wouldn't bother making a poster if the issue wasn't there, but it's also not something that would work well as a pamphlet. There's not too much to say about it, other than 'don't do it'. It can't go into the magazine/newsletter, either, since that entire publication is written in a way that either glosses over, or minimizes any internal issues.
These 'miscellaneous culture' things are a lot of fun to make, by the way.
No.1596
These are the beginning of a pamphlet that I'm starting, for the Joobachi prologue. They're supposed to have been written in the 80's, hence the black and white pictures, and the alternate intro lady. Jenni is in her 20's when this is written, and is a nun.
This is another religious pamphlet, like the Chapter 17 pamphlet, but unlike the Chapter 17 pamphlet, this one takes the actual text of the Chapter (which I wrote) and goes through it, explaining it, line by line, or at least, paragraph by paragraph.
I have two main questions here. The big question is, "what do you think of this poem?" I've never done poems before, and I'm not a God. In-universe, the poem here is supposed to be written by the Goddess Lilith. It's supposed to be erotic, and enticing. I'm not sure whether I pulled that off, because, again, I've never written poetry before. I ripped off the Quran a little bit, just to try and make things sound more 'goddish', but I'm not sure how much that actually helped.
The second question is, "what do you think about the black and white?" Is it okay? I like the pictures here, and I imagine that, during the 80's, when the Temple is still getting off the ground, it wouldn't be too unreasonable to think that their pamphlets and periodicals would primarily be in black and white, to save money. It's very expensive to make color prints, and I feel like printing most of the pulpy mass distribution stuff in greyscale would go a long way in establishing the 1980's era Temple as a fledgeling organization.
As always, feedback is very much appreciated.
No.1609
>"what do you think of this poem?"
In-universe, when was this poem supposed to be written? I'm not an expert on how the English language developed, but the word choice feels "modern" in certain parts and "old" in others.
>"what do you think about the black and white?"
I don't have a problem with it. I love the doujin where you got the images from, though, so I might be sort of biased.
No.1610
>>1609The poem was supposed to be written in 1975, but it was also supposed to be written by a 10,000+ year old Goddess, and it's supposed to be understandable for the remainder of human existence, or at least, until the next 'revelation'.
butThere's also the idea that it
wasn't written by a Goddess, and instead, it was written by a tree-spiking middle aged pervert who had smoked too much weed, dropped too much acid, and wanted to build a religion around her fetish for little boys. So she writes what she thinks sounds 'Goddessy', when in fact, it's just poorly understood 'olde english'.
There's two ways I can go with the poem, and I'm not sure which direction is more interesting. There's certainly more fun in the second approach, because I can portray the mental gymnastics that the Lilians go through when they butt up against something in their holy book that doesn't actually make sense. It also absolves me from the responsibility of writing a good poem.
But with the first approach, you get a more realistic product. Nobody would worship a goddess who can't write well, and I can pull and discuss little issues of interpretation out of a well crafted poem, just the same as I could take them from a poorly written one.
I did have an idea, though, about having some differing opinions regarding the meaning of the line "spill your seed unto my visage", because it's kind of confusing, and I can imagine that, if someone were trying to build a ritual off of the poem, that line would be particularly difficult to actually decipher.
Visage means face, and unto means to, but what does that
mean? Jerk off to a picture of Lilith's face? Cum on the picture? Cum on your mom's face? And that's not a particularly interesting ritual. The ritual I was thinking of involved more boys, and more 'distributed' bukkake, stuff like that. But there's a lot of directions you could go with it, and more importantly, a lot of
justifications for those directions.
It's something I'll have to think about, but I think you get the picture.
I'm just glad that the immediate response isn't just "it's cringeworthy". I've never done poetry before, and I see so much poetry that's just
bad. It's impossible to judge your own work, so I'm glad that I have places to post this stuff, and people who will give some feedback.
No.1627
Here's the full Chapter 58 Pamphlet.
No.1629
And Chapter 58 Pamphlet 3
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/04/chapter-58-retrospective.html
Hopefully you guys liked this one, it's a bit of a departure from my usual work, but I feel like it expands the overall story in a big way, and fills in some gaps that probably needed to be filled in.
2 day turnaround, homies! If I actually thought that I could do anything with a Theology degree, I'd probably be thinking about putting myself through a doctoral program, right now. I love writing about Theology. 2 days, man. Shit like this usually takes me a week.
No.1630
>>1629
>>1628
>>1627
>this turnaround
I was still trying to form an opinion of the poem and you've already put the new chapter out. Sorry I wasn't able to give feedback, poetry analysis isn't something I'm particularly good at
No.1645
>>1630
Yeah, I started writing, and just took off. I didn't think that I'd be finished as quickly as I was.
Did you have any thoughts on the overall pamphlet? I know there's a lot of different ideas there, and some of them may not have worked as well as I'd hoped.
No.1647
>>1610
>There's also the idea that it wasn't written by a Goddess, and instead, it was written by a tree-spiking middle aged pervert who had smoked too much weed, dropped too much acid, and wanted to build a religion around her fetish for little boys. So she writes what she thinks sounds 'Goddessy', when in fact, it's just poorly understood 'olde english'.
Yeah, I was actually going to mention that mixing the language up like that would make perfect sense if it was written by a modern day person.
Where did this person claim she found the poem? Are there "ancient manuscripts" that this cult keeps locked away in a vault?
No.1648
>>1647
I never really put too much thought into the 'origin story' of the Gospel itself. I decided that it would be written (revealed/recited) by a "Mother Sophia", and that she would be the 'Prophet' figure of the religion, and I also decided that she would write other books in her life, after the Gospel, but that those books would be by her, while the Gospel is by Lilith.
I worked all that out, and I sort of worked out the idea that Mother Sophia would get the Gospel, all in one shot, during her "Night Journey". I apparently codified that on the first page of the Acolyte Pamphlet, but it's kind of a 'blink and you'll miss it' sort of thing. I had to check it, to be sure. In my headcanon, Mother Sophia just typed it on a typewriter, over a few months, and then released it to her flock when she felt the time was right, or, typed it in Lilith's domain, as Lilith dictated it.
I suppose she could've rolled out the 'golden tablets', and made a show of it all, but that hasn't been codified, or anything. I would imagine that the Daughters of Gaia were pretty much ready to believe anything Mother Sophia told them. If she told them that a 10,000 year old goddess gave her a hand-typed document, in a black binder, because it's more 'revolutionary' that way, they'd believe it, because they're a cult. They'd find a justification, because they want to.
At the very least, they'd say that the words stand on their own, so there's no need for showy displays. Or that it would be a waste of revolutionary resources to make an expensive version of the Gospel, just to convince the less than fully faithful. There's a lot of fun directions that you can go with that. Maybe there's a Temple-wide ban on illuminated Gospels, because they're considered 'counter-revolutionary excess', or something like that. A lot of fun ideas, there.
The basic idea is that the Gospel of Lilith is the last word, as far as Lilith goes. Anything that came before, is null and void, and probably Jehovan propaganda. Anything that comes after, is an innovation, and should be looked at with suspicion, as it could be a Jehovan plot. This (islamic) idea was expanded and codified in the middle of the Chapter 17 pamphlet.
The Gospel was revealed to Mother Sophia, in English, one night during the mid 1970's, and the first Temple was started, essentially that morning, in Eugene, Oregon. I'm thinking that Mother Sophia doesn't have any kids, because I'm not particularly interested in writing in a succession crisis, but that could change. Lord knows I've got plenty of juicy content there, to play with. But I'd rather have the schisms be ideological and theological, rather than just straight up power struggles.
And yes, I do realize that I write far too much.
No.1650
>>1645
I'll have to get back to you on that when I get the tie to really take it all in and rub one or two out
>>1648
You do't write too much, in my opinion. The world around the cult is as interesting as the sex, in my personal opinion although the /ss/ definitely got me in the thread at the beginning
No.1663
>>1648
>And yes, I do realize that I write far too much.
Nah, it's cool. I like writing as well (or at least, planning on writing and then never actually doing it) and worldbuilding always seems to require the most work. The fact that you have so much to say just shows how much effort you've put into this project.
No.1672
>>1650
>>1645
So, reading the pamphlet, I get two different ideas. First, there's the poem, which obviously is looking to get the boys into the idea of being with Lilith, is interesting. It paints the image well in my head, and the art drawn with it also works to that effect. The text next to it, I wasn't sure if that's in the pamphlet for the male to read, or if the pamphlet itself is only about what the males should be given to read, as the information could be a little more for the women of the faith to keep in mind when talking to the males. Like, who actually reads this pamphlet? As I'm writing this up, I'm assuming that the pamphlet itself is kept by the women to teach from, and the chapter 58 itself is more bare-bones for the kids to bare their bones sorry, but I couldn't resist the shitty pun
I like it, though. I like how much you're looking to build around the cult to make it a more full story.
No.1685
>>1650
I'm glad you find the world around the Lilians to be interesting. I'll try to keep in mind though, that the /ss/ is really the big draw. Certain things can be difficult to sexualize, but I'll keep doing my very best!
>>1663
The worldbuilding is a lot of effort. I can't even imagine how much more difficult it would be if I were trying to set this on some other planet. I do have a lot to say, but I'm also talking myself through certain things, as I write. It's helpful to get the ideas out, on "paper".
>>1672
Thank you for your feedback.
I'm glad that the poem paints a good picture, that was really the main intention. I wanted it to be poetic, and meaningful, but really, that's secondary to the arousal factor. This is still porn, that I'm making. I loved the art, too, and I feel like it was (almost) perfect for what I was doing with this pamphlet.
The overall pamphlet text was supposed to be for the women of the Temple, specifically those in religious teaching positions, to explain the Chapter to their boys. Kind of like a lesson plan, but less organized, and more general. It's to teach the teachers, so that they can go and teach the boys.
The chapter itself, as you worked out, is basically just a stroke piece. I had originally wanted to focus a bit more on the specific masturbation rituals associated with the chapter, like, beating off onto a piece of cloth with the chapter embroidered on it and then maybe giving that cloth to someone, or beating off onto a piece of paper with the chapter on it, and then burning the paper and making a wish, or maybe like, your mom wears some panties with the chapter's text on it, and then you sniff them while you fap, or something along those lines. I probably would have picked the least weird one. Anyway, that plan basically just turned into the "10ideny" page, and the "11diversity" page.
I'm definitely trying to flesh out the Lilians as much as I can, and while it's easy to write this stuff, it's kind of difficult to keep some of these things firmly sexual. Now, I've done nonsexual pages before, in the Timid Boys Pamphlet, but even then, I still had the entire second half of the pamphlet, completely devoted to sex.
Right now, I'm trying to work out how to make a sort of 'Intro to the Lilian Faith' pamphlet, like the sort of thing that you would read in a class, (as a boy) before being made an 'official Temple member'.
Of course, like most of my work, it would be written for boys with very large vocabularies. I'm not that dedicated to realism.
No.1686
These are the first pages that I've done for the "Lilian Convert's Guide". I guess it's supposed to be designed for 'self radicalized' Lilian boys, or boys whose mothers converted them. It's designed to teach the basics of Temple integration, more than the actual faith, itself. So, less about Lilith, and more about the Lilians.
This makes it easier, and harder, to sexualize the discussion. I don't want to get bogged down in minutia, but I still want to expand the overall idea, and fill in some gaps. Because the Temple is so sexual, It makes it relatively simple to work out how to sexualize certain issues. But, because we're talking about an organization, it's very easy to end up accidentally getting into organizational stuff, which isn't very sexy.
The logo is an example of a page with little to no real sexual content, on its own. Now, it's probably going to be more of an introduction to other, more sexualized pages, discussing the issues in more detail, but still, right now, it's just a logo, and some text. Not particularly sexy.
At any rate, what do you guys think of this idea, and what would you like to see in this pamphlet? If there's anything specific, that you're wondering about the Temple, this would probably be where the explanation would go.
So far, I'm thinking about expanding the 5 points of revolution, tying the 3 stages of a woman's life in with the 3 qualities of Lilith, possibly going through and explaining the 8 (I think it's 8) Lilian holidays, doing a couple pages on Orgy etiquette, and explaining the structure of the Temple, overall.
No.1705
>>1686
Going from a quiz to discussing the logo seems sort of odd. Maybe you should organize it so the quiz appears at the end?
No.1706
>>1705
The logo page is part of a different set, I just wrote it alongside these, so I released it alongside them, as well. It's a completely separate 'block', though.
I'm actually not sure where any of these will go in the overall pamphlet, because I'm not totally sure what's going to be in the pamphlet. I'm just writing random blocks for little questions and ideas, and I'll organize them later. That's how I did the Acolyte Pamphlet.
No.1708
>>1685
Thanks for clearing that up regarding who the pamphlet is specifically for
>>1686
Maybe it's important to flesh out when the boys have the right to say no. I mean, from the outcall discussion in an earlier chapter throughout the work the boys are usually put in more of a subservient role. I know now they have the right to say no, especially if their safety is a question, but perhaps that should be clarified a little more. Also, I really like all three images you used in these pages and would be cool with you building your pamphlets off of any additional art of these women.
No.1711
>>1706
Okay, gotcha.
Would they have counseling/therapy for kids that were forced into doing some really weird shit that left them traumatized? If they do, then this new pamphlet could mention it.
No.1712
>>1711
I agree with this poster. It's important for the group to have contingencies for something like that in the event something goes awry. It seems like a logical thing to have: maybe the pamphlet can indicate something about how it originally wasn't a thing until an older convert expressed a problem, and it led to Lillian scholars deciding this needs to be done, and the boys need to be treated.
No.1714
This is why I like 8chan's /ss/. You guys actually provide decent feedback about these things, and you ask questions that are interesting, and require me to actually think about different things. A lot of this stuff had never even entered my mind.
>>1708
I've given some thought to when the boys would have the right to say no. Originally, I sort of had this idea that there wouldn't really be boys who would say no, but realistically, of course there would be. Not everyone is into super hardcore femdom, and not everyone is into everyone else. I would imagine that the Temple wouldn't last very long if they had no way, whatsoever, to deal with issues like this.
So let's think about it. I've basically already canonized the idea that boys can't say no in two situations. When they're acolytes, and when it's their mother asking. Now, what would be some possible 'outs' there? For the acolytes, there isn't much of one, except for things that their Priestess has specifically told them not to do. That's been canonized, although mostly, I just stuck to drugs, and big dildos, and it was kind of done in passing.
For mothers, though, it's a bit more complex. I've already canonized the idea that not all mothers are considered equal in the Lilian faith. In the "Boys Questions" arc, which I haven't actually posted here, I discuss the idea of using CPS to take a boy away from his birthmother, and I've talked about how nobody should be able to get between a truly Lilian mother and her child. The word "truly" being the big variable. I'm thinking that the out for mothers is essentially the definition of a 'truly' Lilian mother as being gentle, sexually, and not forcing him to do something that he's particularly averse to. It would have to be worded in a way that essentially covers everything, and nothing, at the same time, so that it could be applied as arbitrarily as possible.
At the same time, though, I want the idea of a boy refusing sex to be almost unthinkably taboo. I want, alongside the 'you don't have to do anything' rhetoric, to be a bit of a conflicting message of, but, you should' do whatever is asked of you'. So, theoretically, there's no compulsion, but in reality, the boys are still very much in chains, it's just that the chains are in their mind. Nyar talked about this quite a bit, although his explanations were more sci-fi oriented, while mine are more theological. He had the 'need' to point to. I just have the 'revolution'.
>>1711
>>1712
Again, this is something I'd never even considered, but, realistically, it's something that would come up, probably in the first few months (or weeks) of the religion. This is actually something that will be really easy to implement, and talk about, especially in this particular pamphlet. This really would be the place to talk about it.
I'm thinking that there would probably have to be a branch of the Lilian faith, connected to each other, but not connected to the Temple overall, that specifically handles these sorts of issues. If any of you are .mil, SARC, or SAPRO is essentially what I'm thinking of. Because the problems could, realistically, come from anyone in the Temple, from a normal parishioner, all the way up to the HIgh Priestess, it wouldn't make a lot of sense to have the 'internal affairs' team actually be a part of the Temple, proper.
I imagine that it would have to be an independent body of Nuns, who basically answer to the 'Temple Congress' as a whole, and essentially sacrifice their careers, in order to keep the boys safe. Of course, this approach creates the possibility of using SAPRO as a weapon, to undermine a specific High Priestess, or her Temple. There's a lot of different directions you can go with that.
These are all really complex issues, and there's a hell of a lot to think about on them. These are things that I haven't even considered, so thanks for bringing them up.
No.1715
These 4 pages are going to be somewhere after the logo page, although I'm not sure whether they'll be right after, or what. Basically, they break down the Triple-Goddess idea, sexualize the shit out of it, and then bring in some Theological ideas from the Lilian side.
It should be noted that the idea of the Triple-Goddess that I'm working off of comes from a half-understood reading of some Dianic Wiccan texts from when I was a teenager, and the Wiccan service at Basic Training, because yes, I went to the Wiccan service at Basic Training. Islam gives you pizza, but Wicca lets you hold hands with girls, and, they have the same incense that the Orthodox service uses. They also do 'guided meditation', which is just a code-word for 'sleep'. Wicca is clearly the best religion for basic training.
The fact that our "High Priestess" worked at the Sunglasses Hut in the BX is of little consequence.
Anyway, These pages were fun to make, although I wonder whether I was able to sexualize them enough. They form a distinctive 'block' of content, which I like, and they present some nice, varied, sexual fantasies. They're all from different artists, but honestly, finding a unified set for something like this was always a crap-shoot, so I'm not even going to try.
I like that I was able to put the gilves in here somewhere, I've been meaning to, but I haven't actually had the time or space. I guess I'm supposed to have an entire magazine issue to them, but I think I kind of just rolled it into one of the lesbian 'sister's specials', and put a bunch of acolyte ads in, as 'articles'. It's strangely difficult to find decent gilf /ss/.
As always, your feedback is very much appreciated.
No.1716
I was checking gelbooru for gilf /ss/ pics, just in case I need more, and I found a totally superior pic for the triple goddess intro page. I think this one displays the 3 varieties of woman much better than the original pic. The difference is subtle, but I think it's important enough to just go ahead and change it, before I forget to.
No.1717
>>1716
>>1715
>>1714
I'm glad you like the feedback. What you've got for infrastructure is interesting, and I'll get back to you on the pages of the pamphlet After I get the time to analyze them
No.1740
>>1715
So, while reading this I get the idea of Lillian being each of the three women - that is a point that you make clear and even state. The way the slides are written, though, I am left to wonder, does the Lillian boy have one teacher from each walk of life, or is it still more of the "mother" and "nun" life? I guess I'm wondering that because the "Crone" page mentions the boy learning a lot, and the final slide >>1716 making note of how much better a boy trained by a crone is a better sexual partner than one whom isn't.
I don't know who makes the images you're taking from the Boorus, but I will say that they don't have me grossed out by the "Crones", so that's a huge plus.
>Sister's specials
I'm interested
No.1742
Pics are from the "Sisters Special (Mature)" magazine issue. The magazine pics are mature lesbian pairings and solopics, while the articles are pretty much just ads for the acolyte program.
>>1740
I'm glad that the "triple-goddess/3-stages = Lilith" idea came across okay. I was sort of worried that it wouldn't end up being articulated correctly, which is why I devoted so much of the block to it. It's a very complex concept, to condense into less than 2000 characters, and I'm still not sure whether I was able to really capture the 'spirit' of that idea. That concept was one of the things that initially drew me towards wicca. I'm not currently wiccan, but I did study it for a while, and I found many of the ideas to be quite appealing, and interesting, on an academic level. Much of the Lilian Theology is pulled straight from wicca.
I've canonized, in the Nun Lifestyle pamphlet, that the boys actually take a class on sex, as a part of their curriculum. I'm not totally sure how that would be done, logistics-wise, as in, what if a boy was trying to 'save' his virginity for someone, or what if a mother didn't want her son to be sleeping with dozens of women each week. I don't feel like I really need to flesh things out quite that far, although it could provide space for some interesting conflicts in the story, at some point.
I would imagine that a Lilian boy, raised in the Temple, would naturally be drawn to certain women of the Temple, and vice versa. There might be 'popular' individuals within the Temple, but there would also be just normal groups, and couples, as well. Now, I've never canonized this, but I've always felt that there would be more women in the Temples than boys. That's what happens when you focus the recruiting of your sex cult on people who aren't interested in sex, yet.
So naturally, there would be a bit of a constant struggle over the hearts (and cocks) of the boys. The extreme aversion to monogamy could offset this, a bit, but there's still only so much time that each boy can spend having sex. Between school, (8-9 hours) sleep, (6-8 hours) family time (2-4 hours) and nonsexual play with age-appropriate friends (the rest, probably), there's not a lot of time left. When you actually divy it up, these kids are pretty busy. They can only devote their time to maybe a couple of lovers, once or twice a week, outside of their immediate family. I imagine that the nun program could take the edge off of some of this, as the sex class would require skilled sex partners, and those could just be drawn out of a hat, and then possibly traded between the nuns for cash or favors. But even with all of those escape valves, women would still be fighting over the attention of the boys.
Realistically, who would win in this fight? The fun, interesting, college age girl, or grandma? Probably not grandma, unless she used her seniority in the Temple to her advantage. The Crones were talked up in these pages, because they wrote the pamphlet. Who else would refer to an old woman as a 'sex goddess'? They are very much aware of the fact that their 'experience' is what they've really got going for them, so they play it up, and place themselves at the top of the ladder, when it comes to 'serious' lovemaking.
The maidens are fun, and creative, but inexperienced, and although they're open to new things, those new things might be a little weird. The mothers are glossed over a bit, since everyone's supposed to be fucking their own mother, anyway. The crones, though, are the odd girl out. They don't have the easy access of the mother, nor do they have the energy, attractiveness, and most importantly, cool factor, of the maiden. They use their experience to appeal to the natural desire of the boys to 'master' new challenges, and so, get their boys.
No.1743
It said 'the body was too long', so here's the second part of the post. It's mostly just me bitching and moaning about the word "crone". The pics are from the second special in the Sisters Special (Mature)
>>1740
The cronepics, by the way, come from Zuboroku, and Abubu. I use their art a lot. I use Nora Higuma and Agata a lot, too. If Juan Gotoh made CG sets, I'd use the shit out of those, but unfortunately, he's only made, like, two, and those were released over a decade ago. I might end up using them for something, maybe a "how to bring your little brother into the Temple" pamphlet, but I'm not sure how different that would be from the existing "Timid Boys Pamphlet".
Also, am I the only one who fucking despises the term "Crone"? I don't know why the wiccans picked that term, it brings nothing but terrible mental images, and I don't even have any preexisting ideas of that word. It only exists within the wiccan framework, but somehow it still invokes ideas of super uggos. I don't get it. They should have found a nice M-word, and stuck with the pattern. I know 'mature' wouldn't work, because it's an adjective, and not a noun, but seriously, these people do mad drugs, make up all these fun, rhyming prayers, and then shit the bed when it comes to naming their deeper theological concepts.
Just looked up crone in the dictionary. "an old woman who is thin and ugly" Who the fuck thought that would be a good thing to associate with a goddess? Robert Graves, I guess. Sure, I could've made up a trinity, or used De Quincey's trinity, but (a) that's hard, and easy to fuck up, (b) De Quincey's trinity is relatively unknown, and his trinity would have been really difficult to sexualize, and (c) the wiccan trinity is good, and it works well for this. Maybe I should have just found a better word.
Fucking crone, man. It's like he wasn't expecting anyone to take that shit seriously.
No.1760
These two are essentially the answer to the questions of "how do the Lilians handle abuse?", and "who are the kids required to fuck?". They didn't really come out exactly like I imagined they would, and I'm not sure how well I answered those questions, but hopefully I did a decent job.
They're supposed to be understood in the context of the (as yet, unwritten) "5 Points of Lilian Revolution" block, which is probably what I'll be writing next. I've been having a tough time working out exactly what it is I want to do with that particular block.
I feel like I may have laid it on too thick with these, but maybe not. Feel free to give your feedback.
No.1761
>>1760
I don't know if you touched on this, but how would they deal with bi/homosexual boys?
No.1763
>>1761
I covered it, but it was one of the first things that I wrote, so it was a while ago. Almost a year ago, in fact. It's pretty crazy that I've been working on this one project for a year, now. Of course, I've got 400 picture pages, and almost 150 written (8.5x11) pages to show for it, so it's also kind of cool. Anyway, this page came from the 'Midsummer' issue. It's supposed to be the 'traps/boys' special.
No.1764
>>1760
>>1743
>>1742
Thanks for answering the questions! The cronepics are very good in the pamphlet, and definitely not the textbook description. That's why I was surprised you kept the term - I mean, even though the older women get to redefine it within the context of the church, it is still a shitty word.
The idea of the boys only being required to have sex in two distinct cases is interesting, in my opinion, because that seems like an open invite to the 'counter-revolutionary' idea. Women could definitely manipulate and control the boys into doing things they don't want to, and given their age, they'll definitely be swayed into thinking that they're wrong with what the 'faith' actually is. Perhaps a counter-pamphlet on how to make the boys do it regardless could be an interesting sideshoot. Not saying to do it now, but maybe if you get really bored of the narrative and you want to build a seedy underbelly.
>>1743
>>1744
I knew I had seen this before while looking in your blog when things got quiet over here. It's a cute little story that I've enjoyed reading.
>>1763
This one seems new to me, and also seems to be an interesting look into the culture around the boys. Not sure if it'll be possible to make this into an /ss/ piece or a /trap/ piece, but it should be interesting to pull off
>All that work on the project
Kudos, anon. That's commitment to a fun project.
No.1767
>>1764
I just couldn't let go of the "maiden/mother/crone" thing. I'm so used to it at this point, that anything else just seems wrong. I guess it's just my sentimentality seeping through. I've kind of got a soft spot for wicca, even if I'm not a current practitioner. Unlike some other new-age stuff I was exposed to in my 'formative years', Wicca is associated with mostly positive memories and people.
I actually wrote the 'system' to be somewhat resistant to any sort of abuse. In theory, an acolyte is 'protected' from abuse by his priestess, and a son, by his mother. Of course, I'm sure that in practice, if the mother told the boy to do something 'counter-revolutionary', what could he say? It's his mom. Likewise, if the priestess was the source of the abuse, what's he going to do? There's also the issue of more 'distributed' Temple ideas, which I discuss in the newest block. If a small group of Lilians decides to start their own 'acolyte program', what's stopping them? What if they don't follow the rules?
There's no real regulatory body in the wider Lilian Organization, aside from the larger Temples themselves. The most they can realistically do is excommunicate people. They can't exactly get the police involved, and I don't see them dropping bodies, either. I guess the threat of excommunication (which is really the wrong word to use, since there's no communion in the Lilian Faith) would be pretty serious, as I've somewhat canonized the idea that the only reason these people haven't been rounded up and tossed in prison forever, is because they have an immense amount of pull with the police and other government officials, and probably some really amazing lawyers, as well.
Introducing the 'distributed' Temple idea complicates things, and I'm not totally sure whether I did it correctly.
Making a pamphlet on how to manipulate the boys would be difficult to do, from a storyline perspective, but I imagine that if I had it be 'written' by a new character, and named it something like "MY SON! MY CHOICE!", it could add quite a bit to the overarching story. Adding in little factions is something that I've wanted to do for a long time.
I actually did the entire Midsummer/Traps issue, it's either one of the earliest posts on my blog, or it's on 7chan's /ss/ board, near the beginning of the thread. It's about half /ss/ and half /sm/. I really tried (hard) to limit the gay content, but posting the pics on 7chan's /ss/ still got me banned (for like a day).
It is a fun project, and it's something that I enjoy immensely, especially some of the more esoteric, theological ideas, and organizational concerns. The only issue is working out how to sexualize it all!
No.1768
Here's the '5 Points of Lilian Revolution' block.
I'm not sure how well I managed to sexualize these, and I'm leaning towards, "not that great". I feel like I did a decent job with the pictures, although the "Temple Building" page ended up being more of a "Temple Structure" page. I'm not sure how I could have sexualized these more, possibly by having a 'sex suggestion' type of thing, like in the "Fealty to Lilith" page, but maybe not. At any rate, I'm at 15 pages for this pamphlet so far, so I'm thinking that I'll start working on assembling them into a structured whole, and thinking about what else (if anything) needs to be said.
Did you guys have any more questions about the Lilian Faith, or ideas of what should go into a Lilian Introduction pamphlet?
Also, did the numbers on the "Temple Building/Temple Structure" page make sense? Did the table make sense? Did any of it make sense? I tried to explain it as well as I could, but I'm not actually sure that I had a full grasp on the actual concept. I might be redoing that page.
No.1769
I notice that you constantly worry about whether your new stuff has been "sexualized enough." Personally, I think you should worry less about making references to sex in everything, and if you can't find a way to make it fit then don't bother.
If you feel that you haven't been writing enough about sex, then next time around just write a pamphlet that focuses really heavily on it.
No.1806
>>1769
I'll keep that in mind. It's a bit difficult to go from the 'sexsexsex' format of the narratives, to the more reserved, and nuanced, format of the guide, and theological content. I do sometimes end up shoehorning sex into places where it doesn't really belong, though, which is almost as bad as not putting in enough of it where it does belong.
By the way, I've done an in-depth retrospective on the Temple Intro pamphlet, as it stands so far. Discussion of my 'next moves' are at the bottom.
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/05/temple-intro-1-retrospective.html
No.1809
>>1806
True - it's got to be rough to feel like you've found the right balance. For what it's worth, though, I've really enjoyed your work, and I say go with what feels right to you at the time.
No.1810
>>1809
Thanks for the feedback, and the support. It helps a lot, even just to keep me motivated.
I think I'm doing a bit better at balancing out the sex and the story, although I'm sure I've still got a long way to go. For now, I'm just having fun writing different things.
This block is supposed to tell boys what to expect during their sleepover with the HIgh Priestess, which would probably be a part of the class, that this pamphlet is supposed to be used in. There's also some subtle metaphysical stuff here, which is alluded to, but not really explained. It's explained much more in the blogpost, so if you want to hear about it more, look there.
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.com/2015/05/lilian-intro-high-priestess-block_12.html
I may have asked this before, but did you guys have any more questions about the theology of the Lilians, or general Temple stuff? This pamphlet is supposed to be like a "FAQ" for the Lilian idea, so now would be the time to ask those questions, if you have them.
No.1811
What about homosexuality? Well this is STRAIGHT shotacon, so I assume being gay is 'discouraged' as the goddess willed males to serve females, not other males.
Or would it be open minded? It might be conflicting as gays will not have sex with females, and therefore may revolt against the temple. Will they simply be not accepted in the cult/religion? Will there be 'pray away the gay' thing in there?
What about female gays?
Also, I suggest maintaining the shady attitude towards who is Lillian and who actually wrote the gospels, it gives it a cultish vibe and encourages the 'just follow orders'.
No.1812
>>1811
I've covered bisexuality, and I've covered homosexuality a little bit, but it was a while ago, and this pamphlet would probably benefit from at least a mention of it. So thanks for that idea, and the feedback.
The basic idea is that they love bisexuality, are a bit wary of homosexuality, but encourage it, in older Lilian boys, and men. They'd rather keep the boys reasonably happy in the Temple (fucking each other), than have them bounce out, and go find wives. Lesbian stuff is highly encouraged, and in fact, the 'traditional Lilian household' is 2 mothers, and their adopted son.
It's actually a bit late to be shady about some of the Theological stuff. A lot of it's already canonized. I have put some effort into keeping it somewhat ambiguous as to whether the Gospel is actually true, though. I think that's what you meant. I'm not going to provide any in-universe proof, at least.
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So, after saying all that, here's the in-universe proof! not really
I've done some prewriting for the Lilian Grimoire, which expands the idea of the Summonable Succubi, and kind of explains what's going on in the previous block. This was a lot of fun to prewrite, so I imagine that it will be a lot of fun to actually write. The full Grimoire prewriting is in the link, but I'll post the good part in the next post.
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.com/2015/05/grimoire-prewriting.html
No.1813
Blonde Succubus - Ydun (Ee-dune) - Fun loving, and very bubbly. Kind of like Katie K. She's relatively young, among succubi, and loves trying new things She has a reputation for spoiling her lovers, a bit. She's relatively vanilla, and she doesn't really care how a boy fucks her, although she does prefer the 'from behind' positions. She doesn't have a lot of power on her own, but she *does* have a bit of pull with the other succcubi. She's quite gregarious, and she's always hosting parties in Lilith's domain, so if you can show her a good time, she'll make sure to spread the word, with the rest of the girls. She'll take her cum anywhere, but she especially likes it on her ass, and up her back. This gives HPs a better ass, and a slimmer waist, as well as getting rid of cellulite. Cum anywhere else will have an effect, but it won't be particularly noticeable. She doesn't really care whether a boy is a virgin, or not. Ydun is normally one of the first succubi that a HP will summon, since she's so easy going, and so connected to the other succubi.
Blue Haired Succubus - Irkalla (Ear-Call-a) - Wise, very old, and one of Lilith's most trusted generals. She is the 'femdom' succubus. She's very stern with her boys, but she's also quite loving towards them, as well. She's harsh, because she wants them to be successful. Nothing pleases her more, than to see a boy who is interested in the deeper meanings of the Gospel, submissive, and eager to please. She just goes gaga for boys like that, and forgets all about being stern. She'll be dominant, but it's a type of loving dominance, like, holding a boy down, or tying him up, and kissing him all over, giving him *too much* pleasure, and ignoring her own orgasm. She doesn't like the consistency of cum, though, so she'll generally demand that the boy cum all over himself, as she finds it funny to watch. Depending on her mood, she might make him eat it, too. She likes anal play, and strapon play, and she likes Ydun, as well, so there's the possibility of dual HP fucking, with Irkalla and Ydun making a sandwich out of the boy in question. She's only interested in religious boys, but anal virginity is the only type that she really cares about. Pleasing her will all but ensure improved relations with Temple elders.
No.1814
Dark Haired Succubus - Nuit (New-Wit) - Maternal and loving, although slightly vanilla, when it comes to sex. Nuit will often spoil the boys that she's with, with one, odd, exception. She won't let them tongue her breasts during sex, only while cuddling, or during a sort of 'nursing handjob' scene. She loves to cuddle, even more than she loves sex, and will often 'rush' the sex, a bit, just to get to the post coital cuddle. When possessing her HP's, she will induce lactation, and her milk is often said to provide a calming, narcotic, but also entactogenic, effect, to the boys, making them less inclined towards sex, and more inclined towards snuggling. She has the power of maternal seduction, and pleasing her, will generally result in the HP being irresistible to young boys and babies, which, in turn, engenders trust, from other mothers. She likes creampies the best, although, oddly, a boy coming there, actually induces lactation. The milk isn't narcotic, though :( It's virgins only for her, with very few exceptions.
Indigo Succubus - Eos (Ay-Yo-s) - Unreasonably kinky, and often gets quite wild, in bed. She's a screamer, too. Her trademark is her high energy, during sex, often leaving both participants wiped out, and a bit sore, the next morning. She likes to get fucked up, too, and she likes her boys to get fucked up with her. She usually won't wait long after being summoned, to start the fucking. She likes tearing clothes off of boys, and regularly goes overboard with the nipple biting. She'll commonly 'mark' her lovers, leaving hickeys, teeth marks, and scratches. Slapping and spanking turns her on, and she'll often demand that a boy spank her ass, while he fucks her from behind. She's one of those people who will slap a dude's cock, and then go to town on it, and when he starts moaning, she'll jerk him off onto her face or tits, while she squeezes his balls. Basically, she's nuts. Really nuts. Like, "bipolar in a manic phase" nuts. She likes it on her face and tits, and a HP who manages this, will see her face and tits become more youthful in appearance. No more crows feet, no more sagging, wrinkles going away, that sort of thing. If pleased, she'll grant the HP power and dominance over men. Not boys, men. She's difficult to please, because while she's willing to accept a non-virgin, she greatly prefers virgins. Of course, most virgins aren't emotionally equipped to handle the intensity of her sessions, and she won't show up, if she thinks that boy can't handle her.
No.1815
>>1810
>I may have asked this before, but did you guys have any more questions about the theology of the Lilians, or general Temple stuff?
It seems like the cult attributes some spiritual significance to semen. Do they do this for anything else?
It's easy for me to imagine a priestess deciding that vaginal fluids are sacred, and telling her shotas this when she wants them to eat her out.
No.1816
>>1815
Maybe sweat and urine as well, since they'd be extensions of the goddess?
what about Lillian shit?
No.1817
>>1815
>>1816
I've toyed with the idea of some kind of 'Lilian Baptism', and I imagine vaginal fluid would probably be somehow involved in that, but I haven't really come up with anything. There's also potential for some kind of communion type thing, but again, I haven't really given it much thought. I want to stay away from things that are too far on the 'extreme' side of things, fetish-wise, since I'm already pushing it with a lot of the femdom stuff.
So I try to stay away from piss and sweat fetishes, although I have done a watersports page, before, in the 'strip club' set. Scat's totally off the table, though. It would just alienate too many people. Even the hair stuff turned a lot of people off, and hair isn't a particularly out-there thing. Scat would be suicide. Plus, I don't even know whether I could write about it without grossing myself out.
I'll consider incorporating vaginal fluids into the orthodoxy, though. There's definitely potential there, somewhere.
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I've finished the first bit of the Lilian Grimoire, or, at least, one of the Grimoires. I'm not sure how many I'll write, but canonically, there would be one for every type of boy, imaginable. They're created by Medea Circe, and would most likely be doled out according to who she likes. I'm not sure whether I managed to explain the ritual fully, so feedback would most definitely be appreciated. The blog post for this block, is below.
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.com/2015/05/grimoire-ritual-block-retrospective.html
No.1834
Here's the first profile block of the Grimoire. It's half guide, half narrative. Honestly, I'm not sure how strong or weak the writing on this is. I'm leaning towards, 'weak', but it's pretty impossible to judge these things, yourself. There was a lot to say in these, and nowhere near enough space to say it. There are times when I'm struggling to fill out a page, and this was not one of those times. At any rate, hopefully you guys enjoy this one.
As always, feedback is appreciated. I'm really not sure whether this block came out well, or not. The full retrospective, is below.
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.com/2015/05/grimoire-succubus-profiles-1.html
No.1862
>>1817
>>1834
Why exactly did you settle on calling these things "officers"? Everytime the word pops up I think it's a rank within the temple, and I have to remind myself that it's not.
No.1870
>>1862
Because I'm ex military, and the word officer just makes sense to me
According to the Temple members, especially the upper echelons, the succubi would be members of the Temple. They're basically right below Lilith, in the structure of the Temple, which, remember, is a sort of "Field HQ" for Lilian revolutionaries. So "Officer" would be a rank, within the Temple, reserved for these spirits.
It's just a way to add some fantastical elements into the story.
But yeah, I couldn't come up with anything better. The other option was 'cosmic comrades'
No.1892
>>1834
I like what you've done here, especially since the Officers/Succubi art you've taken is a complete contrast to the traditional look of saints and angels. It really plays into the cult feel really well, in my opinion
No.1908
>>1892
That's good to know, although I didn't even realize, until you said something, that these are totally the Lilian version of Angels, and this is totally the Lilian version of "Angel Magic". I was going for more of a Haitian Vodou thing, with the writing. Seeing as how I'm neither Haitian, nor into Vodou, it's unsurprising that I ended up writing about New Age stuff, instead.
The set that I picked was essentially just picked because it presented good profile pictures, and because the women involved were obviously "not of this world". I'm really glad that it resonated, though. It's a bit embarrassing, actually, I looked for "angelxshota" pics for a while, and didn't find any. Later, I realized that I could probably just pull some out of the MGQ CG sets. In retrospect, I guess I'm glad that I didn't.
I do feel like these expand the story in a fun direction. New Agers and Occultists love those books about the inner workings and double dealings of different spirits. I feel like this captures some of that fun, while keeping it sexy, and adding to the overarching storyline. At the very least, cults love their rituals, and they love their 'secret knowledge', and this features both of those.
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These are the second (and final) Succubus Profile pages of the Grimoire. They cover the blonde, Ydun, and the librarian, Irkalla. I feel like these were better written than the last couple, but that might just be because I personally like the fantasies better. Anyway, the full retrospective, and my next moves, are in the link below.
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.com/2015/05/grimoire-succubus-profiles-2_25.html
If you guys have got the time, I would appreciate some feedback on the "Temple Intro Intro", near the bottom of the retrospective. I'm not sure if it's "too real", or not. It paints the Lilians in a bad light, but then, they're villains, so I'm not sure whether that's actually a good thing.
No.1913
>>1908
That's cool - I just really get the Lillian "Officer" vs Jehovian "Angel" to be interesting, since it really does look like they choose to use images of characters the traditional faiths would scorn.
As for the new direction, I've read your retrospective, and I have to say I would love for a futa succubus. I don't know if you can really get one in here, since I feel it would be a pain to write about the dominance not coming from the dick, but if you can swing it I'd love to see it.
As for the temple intro intro, it does come off a little real, but I think that's ok. Is it written by a priestess, do you think, or would you go for a "written by an older lillian male and edited by a woman" kind of tone?
No.1915
>>1913
The use of 'succubi' most definitely supports the "revolution against Jehovah" idea. It was a good choice, even if we have to put "choice" in quotes.
As for futa succubi, there's tons of material to work from, and it wouldn't be particularly difficult to write. The biggest challenge is working out exactly how it would function, given the "possession" aspects. Theoretically, I could have the "High Priestesses" be trannies, but… Let's just not go that route, there's too much to retcon, there, and I'm tripping over myself already, continuity-wise. I could totally spin it as a sort of 'blessing' for all the gay Lilian boys, and have it just be strapon play, but with a 'special' strapon, with like, some crystal in it, that makes it so the succubi can feel everything, and also it's mad lifelike. There's a lot to explain, and a lot of mental gymnastics, but hey, it's a challenge, and that's half the reason I write these.
In the end, I decided to go with the Intro intro on the blog. It's villainous, but so are the Lilians. There's no reason to hide from that. Villains can be more fun than heroes, anyway. I'd rather keep the writers female, though, for a couple of reasons. One, I've already established that the men in the Temple are sidelined. Two, I think keeping the cast "man free" keeps it more appealing to my male audience. Three, the Lilians don't need men to be villainous. They're quite capable of being evil all by themselves. Also, it would be difficult to write that, without it being either too obvious, or too subtle. I'm not Kurt Vonnegut out here.
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These are the Temple Intro intro, and the Grimoire Outro. Yes, they're walls of text. There will be more porn soon.
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.com/2015/05/temple-intro-and-grimoire-outro_28.html
No.1918
>>1915
Yeah, I wouldn't do something that'll cause you to have to retcon the story, but the strapon play could be fun.
I like how you're building up the villainy of the Lillians now, too, because it hits something that some people might forget.
I'm interested to see how Mommy Bubble 90's works out, since I'm interested to see some of the differences of the bubble as time progresses
No.1924
The more of these I read, the more it makes me imagine a romance story where a Lilian falls in love with a shota and abandons the cult to run away with him so that she wouldn't be forced to give him up.
Have you touched on anything like this yet? Would the cult have a means of trying to catch members that do this?
No.1925
>>1924
Damn it anon you got me in the mood for a Cyberpunk-but-medieval-architecture themed novel about a caring MILF escaping the cyber-lilith-police with her shota protege.
The setting has nothing to do with this thread but it's what I see working.
No.1929
>>1918
I agree, strapon play would be fun, and I'm still thinking about how to work the concept in, without stepping on too many of my own toes. The new (old) mommy bubble pamphlet (80's bubble pamphlet, I totally fucked up the numbers before) is going to be less about the bubble itself, and more about the how and why, the bubble exists, in the 90's. The term "mommy bubble" isn't actually coined, in my headcanon, until the 90's, when people start to realize that having nonstop unbridled sex, with your underage son, might affect him mentally and emotionally. At any rate, it'll be fun to write, and it'll be a simple read too, kind of like the position pamphlet.
>>1924
>>1925
I haven't actually thought about those sorts of things, but I'll definitely keep them in mind for future storylines. I'll probably end up turning this story into some kind of novel, at some point, and both of those ideas are a lot of fun. I can see a "Molly Millions" type character running around with a shota in tow.
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These are probably some of the final pages for the Lilian Intro pamphlet. They're really light on sex, but heavy on story. I haven't gone into the Cells and Circles yet, mostly because they didn't exist before last month. But these pages are all about them, and the fate that awaits young boys, as they are pulled out of DSS, and placed under the "loving mantle of Our Goddess".
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.com/2015/06/lilian-intro-cellcircle-block_1.html
No.1932
>>1929
>those contortions going on in the second pic
Holy shit man
No.1935
>>1929
Sounds like you've got the mommy bubble all figured out. The idea of making a novel out of it could be fun. Would you write it where she succeeds and escapes, or where she fails and her child is taken from her?
The idea of cell life is interesting, and I hope you get time to really flesh this structure out beyond the simple numbers game
No.1957
>>1929
In your retrospective, you mention wanting to write an "it's okay to be gay" packet. Could this be where you put futa/strapon stuff?
No.1960
Please make Freedomancer as a class in this game.
I feel the need to free the shit out of these goddamn Lilians.
Maybe teaming up with Child Protective Services and rescuing these kids, and putting them through therapy, and teaching them that doing something just because someone else wants you to do that thing, and you want to make them happy by doing what they day, even though you hate doing that thing, is called co-dependence and will only lead to your own suffering and misery, and the person taking advantage of you is evil.
DO THE IMPOSSIBLE SEE THE INVISIBLE
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER
And make Edithians a separate group, that believe that men and women should be equal, and think those that submit like Eve, are idiots that will submit to anyone(the snake).
No.2000
Hopefully I don't get banned for posting these. They're not gay, but they are bi. Pomf is down, unfortunately, so I can't post them there.
Lilian Intro Outro and OK2bGay block
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/06/lilian-intro-outro-and-ok2bgay-block_10.html
>>1932
It kind of weirded me out too, at first, but overall, I've seen worse, artwise.
>>1935
I wish I had the mommy bubble figured out. I'm still in the process of prewriting that pamphlet. There are a lot of pictures, and a lot of great potential, but bringing it out in the best way possible, is going to be a challenge. Expect a slower turnaround for the Mommy Bubble 80's pamphlet.
I'd probably write a good ending, but who knows? I am all about dystopias. Maybe she gives her life so that he can escape to a less hellish environment.
I want to make a Cell/Circle pamphlet, and I've got a few decent sets picked out for it, but I still have to prewrite them. They're in the pipe, though.
>>1957
The futa succubi, if I use it, will have to be its own little pamphlet. Strapon stuff has already been covered, and I just nixed the possibility of futa stuff.
>>1960
I actually put CPS in Taisen, but I decided to make them totally ineffective, and corrupt, like everyone else in the game. I'm not big on happy endings, and I much prefer realism to idealism. The truth is, CPS, in most cities, is woefully underfunded, and understaffed. Plus, it's been canonized that one of the first things that the Lilians try to do is take over Social Services, and route the cuter boys to Lilian Nuns and Priestesses, in exchange for money and favors.
Also, I feel like forcing people to do "bad things", in the game, helps them to understand just how bad those things are. Of course, that only works if they're not revelling in the evil.
Interesting idea with the Edithians, though. I'll keep them in mind for when I take this story into the post-megapox (or whatever I called it) future. I need breakaway groups for the Lilians.
No.2001
>>2000
>The "woman", may or may not be a woman, depending on how you interpret the cumsquirt near her crotch.
This was pretty much the first thing I noticed. Yaoi's not my bag, and futa's definitely not my bag either, so even though the art looks kind of nice that picture is unfappable for me.
No.2003
Well, you know, it's the gay picture. This stuff always get requested, and there's always somebody who hates it. Don't worry, I'll be getting back to the straight stuff, soon.
I'm just surprised that I didn't realize before, that I could edit out the cumsquirt, and the tears. This is even crazier, when you consider that I made the boys dark skinned, instead of just tanned. I guess I was just moving quickly, and didn't think about it.
So here's the new version of that page, slightly less gay, and with 100% less sobbing. What's with that, anyway? Half the /ss/ pics that I find, have the boy crying. I mean, maybe that's more realistic, but goddamn, is it annoying.
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At any rate, I'm in the process of doing the prewriting for the 80's era Mommy Bubble pamphlet. It's here. I should have it finished by the end of today, so I can start really working on the pamphlet, tomorrow.
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.com/2015/06/mommy-bubble-80s-prewriting.html
No.2004
>>2003
Nice to see that you're using more pictures from those pinknoise doujins, those had some good art.
>It will discuss the benefits of getting pregnant by your son, and it will discuss whether or not that's such a good idea. I'm not sure which direction I should go with this. There *are* genetic issues that would come with incest babies.
This does creep me out though. I'm curious to see how you'll cover it.
No.2005
>>2004
This is pretty creepy but I think it fits the Lillians
No.2007
>>2004
>>2005
I've more or less decided against having the mother and son actually procreate together. If I keep the pregnancy pic, the father will most likely be a different boy, like an acolyte, agreed upon by the mother and son, so the baby would actually be the boy's younger brother. I don't want to go unrealistic, and it wouldn't make sense for the Lilians to abide a generation of retarded incest babies. Medea Circe is still in college at this point, so there's no magical genetics either. The obvious solution is just to use a surrogate father.
I lose some villainy, but I gain some realism, so I figure it's a decent balance. That's all assuming that I actually keep the picture in, which really isn't guaranteed. If I can't write it well, I'll just cut it out. It's only one picture.
Anyway, I've finished the full prewrite, and it can be found below. It starts off with stuff that you guys have already seen, but goes through the entire pamphlet, block by block. Again, if you want to follow along, you can use the links in the previous blogpost.
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.com/2015/06/mommy-bubble-80s-prewriting-2.html
No.2008
>>2007
Seems you've got a lot planned for this pamphlet. Can't blame you for deciding against having the kid be her son's. I mean, the gene pool would get pretty fucked up if you didn't.
No.2034
Mommy Bubble 80's Intro Block
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/06/mommy-bubble-80s-intro-block_14.html
>>2008
It's really easy to plan out a huge pamphlet, when I've got so much great material to work off of. The only real question is which direction I want to take the narrative in. Unfortunately(?), the answer, right now, seems to be "straight to crazytown".
Do you guys like this direction? Setting it in Namibia just sort of happened, but it's not too late to change it, if it's too weird. I don't plan to bring it up too much. What about the style of the pictures? Is the transparency approach okay, or would a plain white background be better? Also, what about the 'dual authorship' idea? Is it coming across well?
I'm going in a lot of new directions with this pamphlet, so feedback is really appreciated.
No.2059
>pageviews through the roof
>feedback through the floor
I'll just assume that the unrivalled quality of my writing has left you all speechless
Mommy Bubble 80's Skin Block 2
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/06/mommy-bubble-80s-skin-block-2_19.html
No.2061
Hey OP, with E3 over I've got more time on my hands, so I'll have to check your new stuff out this weekend
No.2077
>>2059
>>2055
>>2034
I feel like you had to set it away from the states to really get a good idea of what it would be like to be a lone Lillian, and it will have an effect on the bubble, I think.
The images are fine for what's happening. The story isn't explicitly FUCKING, but more of a slow lead up. I think it works just fine, personally. Further, the dual author thing is well conveyed using the two colors since the first part of each image is the story and the second part is more explanation/warning.
Are you sticking to events that you have images for, or are you going to be leaving some of this bubble to our imagination?
No.2078
>>2059
Also, maybe it's just my browser, but the links on your personal page don't load the images anymore
No.2080
Mommy Bubble 80's Undie-Exchange block
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/06/mommy-bubble-80s-undie-exchange-block_23.html
>>2061
I hope you like it!
>>2077
I definitely needed the isolation, and I'd kind of painted myself into a corner with the final page of the magazines, where I list off all of the different Regional Temples. Plus, there are the cells and circles to think about, which complicate things, slightly. I didn't really have to make them Namibians, I could have made them eastern, or even southern, europeans. Hell, I could have made them Germans. I just didn't end up doing that. Once I got the idea, I just ran with it.
The pictures are a pretty slow leadup. Pinknoise does an excellent job of setting up the characters, so there's tons of leadup to the actual sex. In the christmas set, there's something like 15 pages of nonsexual setup, and then 15 more pages of masturbation, before the sex scene, which takes up the rest of the set. I wanted to make use of at least the masturbation pages, and some of the nonsexual pages, if I could manage it.
I'm glad that the dual author thing is working out. This is actually, pageviews-wise, shaping up to be my most popular work. Even more popular than the position pamphlet, which was next in line. I'd like to think that it's not just due to the excellent artwork.
If I come across something that really needs to be said, but doesn't have a picture, I might end up just using a nonsexual picture, and doing the "2500 character 150 pixel picture" thing, that I do for the intros/outros. I did that in the chapter 17 pamphlet, as well as the Mommy Bubble 90's pamphlet. We'll see. If I decide to have them reading something, for instance, I don't have a picture for that, so I'd have to leave that up to the imagination. We'll see. A lot of the "key events", though, actually do have pages for them. Was there anything specific that you were thinking of?
>>2078
It's probably not your browser. Pomf has shut down, so I'm using maxfile.ro. I'll be fixing the links next week, when I'm off from work.
No.2121
>>2086
>>2101
You're just playing with us, aren't you? All this foreplay is fantastic
No.2179
Mommy Bubble 80's Bubbling page
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/07/mommy-bubble-80s-bubbling-page_7.html
>>2121
I'm glad you like it! Mostly, I'm just trying to use as much of the content as I possibly can, since it's so well drawn, and so progressive, from a linear narrative perspective. It would be a crime to just jump straight to the sex, with this set.
No.2180
>>2179
So, as usual I like what you're doing.
I may have missed this part, but I see this part of the pamphlet talks about how it's ok for the mother to have complete control over her son, including whether he's allowed to have other lovers. If I'm not mistaken and I could be, since you've got a good deal of lore here I thought the mommy bubble was more about the horror or concern of a mother never letting her son out. I like how the pamphlet uses the dominion of being made of the mother, but it felt like it conflicted a little bit. Are we seeing a shift in the religious paradigm, a radial new sect, or am I just wrong?
Thanks for hearing me out!
No.2181
>>2180
I understand the confusion, and it's probably coming from my naming practices. The Mommy Bubble pamphlet that we've already seen, the one with Jenni/Rinko and Aster/Sei, is the Mommy Bubble 90's pamphlet. When I made that, there was no concept of a "Mommy Bubble 80's" pamphlet yet. I just hadn't thought of making one. What's being released now, is the Mommy Bubble 80's pamphlet, which should, really, be called, "The Sensual Mother's Guidebook".
This pamphlet represents the 80's era thought process of the Lilians, which leads directly to the issues that are addressed on the last page of the Mommy Bubble 90's (the one with Jenni/Aster) pamphlet. So you can basically think of it as a prequel to the 'older' Mommy Bubble pamphlet, the one that's already been made, that's in full color. So essentially, the Lilians, from the mid 70's, when they were created, to the 90's, when the color pamphlet was made, believed that at least the firstborn son should stay with the mother forever.
Lore-wise, Jenni Vertanen was a union hall clerk and Lilian nun when this pamphlet was written and released. When she becomes a High Priestess, she creates a new pamphlet, specifically to debunk/address the issues that this pamphlet created. A decent rule of thumb with these, is that if it's mostly in full color, it's probably from the 90's. If it's in greyscale, it's from the 80's, when the Temple had less money for printing and distribution.
Probably. I'm still new to worldbuilding, so there might be fuckups with that.
No.2184
The feeling these bring up are so confusing, but in a good way. Like those black comedies from the 60's that make you laugh and feel emotion. The Lillians both are a turn on and are quite disturbing if you think about it too much.
These are so many things you can do while keeping the porn aspect.
One of the bigger things that I noticed is the obvious turning from sex cult to straight up organized crime. Finding semi successful Lesbians or at least highly liberal women and "converting" them by any means necessary.
Also it would be fun to see a little more actual ritual. Like is there something they do during sex that is specifically Lillian, a prayer or something? A Lillian version of communion?
Lastly it might be interesting to have a teenage boy slave block. The boys outro from being sex toys and actually being used as surrogates to make more Lillians. Remember pre-pubescent boys don't produce sperm.
No.2186
Mommy Bubble 80's Advanced Bubbling block
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/07/mommy-bubble-80s-advanced-bubbling.html
>>2184
I think "conflicted" sums up the feeling that most people have towards the Daughters, and they're written that way. I make a point of throwing in a metric fuckton of religious appeal, from maternalistic marian and wiccan elements, to the populist elements from maoism, and of course, the reward structure of islam. I want people to find the ideas appealing on a primal level, but repugnant, on a cognitive level.
When I was assembling my omnibus, for the 7chan thread, I started thinking about artists statements, and what, if anything, this body of work is trying to "say". I think that if there is a message, it's something about how religion can get tied in with politics, and sexuality, and create a monster. I like to at least believe that this project can be understood on multiple levels.
The organized crime stuff is something that I really wanted to explore, but it's so difficult to do that, in "caption" format. I mean, yes, there's the sex trade aspect, and yes, drug use is mentioned, at times, but I've mostly only gotten into suggestions of what's going on, because I've largely been doing propaganda stuff, and you don't air out your dirty laundry in a propaganda piece. I've been considering some conversion manuals, but they'd probably involve yuri stuff, and I'm still not sure how good I am at writing that. Of course, you never get better at writing, unless you actually write. So we'll see.
I covered some of the ritual stuff in the Chapter 58 pamphlet, but I wasn't really able to get too much out there, about rituals. I definitely enjoy writing that sort of thing, though, so it's 100% in the pipe. I'm mostly just waiting for some good sets to come around.
At some point, I kind of made a command decision that in my world, pre-pubescent boys do produce sperm. This was probably decided around the time when I decided that STD's just didn't exist in this world. I've considered talking about the grown up male Lilians, but I like to keep things vague with them. I feel like it helps with the villainy, a bit, when it just seems like the Lilians kind of… stop thinking about the boys when they hit puberty. There are little discussions here and there, but for the most part, I don't want to break the "pink elephant factor" that the issue of Lilian men provides.
This, by the way, is the Daughters of Lilith Omnibus. It's everything I've written so far, in the original 640x400, indexed, png format. I suggest you use a scaling viewer like ifranview, or comix, to read it.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/b69ce6c31ebskr7/DOLOmnibus09JUL2015.rar
No.2187
>>2186
That was a pretty clever use of those bunny pictures.
It actually made me wonder, since you haven't addressed who the artists of these pictures are supposed to be, is the woman in this story providing the art for the pamphlet? If that's the case then in-universe she could be the artist of any of the pinknoise pictures you use (I remember you using some from the doujin where the mom is fucking her son on a beach).
It's not important but it would be kind of an interesting way to show that she was still with the cult when the other pamphlet was made.
No.2210
Mommy Bubble 80's Cherrypop 1
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.com/2015/07/mommy-bubble-80s-cherrypop-1_13.html
>>2187
Funny thing, the pictures are kind of a "suspension of disbelief" thing. In the "real world", I had imagined that the pictures would actually be real pictures, as in, taken with a camera, as in, 1000% illegal. I think that was actually canonized way back in the "Jenni Special" magazine days. The trap magazine special intro page really canonizes it.
Your idea is interesting, though. Realistically, the Lilians would not last very long, if they were trading straight up CP pedo manuals around, and building Temples, and doing all of this other shit. I mean, the overall operation of the Temple might go unnoticed for a year or two, but the insane amounts of CP flowing out of that organization would sink it within months, I imagine. If they used drawings and stories, however, their biggest challenge, really, would be obscenity laws. The thing about being able to see who's with the Temple, by looking at art styles, is definitely interesting, though, and something that I hadn't thought about.
By the way, even if it were legal to use 3DPD for these, I doubt that I would. The visceral shock of actually seeing these things happening would help to drive home some of the villainy of the Lilians, but it would also make the entire project about 1000x less fun for me, and 1000x more real, overall. There really is a huge difference between 2D and 3D, when it comes to these sorts of things.
No.2211
>>2210
Really? I always figured that the pamphlets were actual drawings. The thought being that the Lillians would try to stay just on the right side of the law whenever possible. But would have had access to lawyers since the Daughters of Gaia days so the know what they can and can't get away with.
In my imagination the reason it took till the late 80's for the pamphlets to appear is because of the safety they already had. In the early 80's there were about a dozen lawsuits directly against the Lillians using the original texts. After no boys claimed that there was any wrong doing, and every court case claiming that the original stories were allegories, their lawyers claimed religious percussion due to the former ties to an eco-terrorist group. As well as a high population of the members being lesbians. Since the early temples were in areas that were highly liberal, authorizes were told to back off until they could get a sure thing. As a result pamphlets began to be made knowing it could increase recruitment while knowing cops wouldn't do much after previous trails resulted in nothing. .
No.2217
>>2210
I think the 2D is best. Personally, it allows you to show more and have it capture more emotion, I feel, than 3D. 3D images look fake. As for 3DPD, I'd say avoid. I don't want to see that at all
I like these mommy bubble pieces, and I'm interested to see it end. As for your blog, I forget, what is 88 again? If you'd rather wait on that chapter, go do others and see if you want to come back to this one at all afterward
No.2218
Post Pubescent Slavery Intro and Clitoral Stimulation block
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/07/post-pubescent-slavery-intro-and_15.html
>>2211
I didn't really give it too much thought, but I kind of decided that the Lilians were sort of like these comic book supervillains, always finding some scheme to get away with things. Usually, it would be a combination of Bribery, Blackmail, Subversion, or Infiltration.
So if a cop was sniffing around, first, they'd see if they had any Lilians in the force, that could shut him down. So if the police chief was already a Lilian, the investigation wouldn't get too far. If that didn't work, they'd try to pay him off, with drugs, or sex, or just cash. If that didn't work, they'd try to convert him, and if nothing worked, they'd send a crack team of lolidom brand lolidoms, to seduce him, and film it. Then, they'd use the tape to silence him. Or, they'd call up one of their demons to brainwash him, or something. Yeah, comic book supervillains.
I guess it was kind of like magic in those fantasy novels. They don't really have to explain why the wizards can do magic, it's just something that you're supposed to suspend disbelief for. Also, I think I decided that the Temples would be undercover, so the Eugene Temple is officially called (and I just made these up) "The Suomi Women's Club of Eugene, Oregon" and the Portland Temple is called, "Pine Links Country Club and Nature Retreat". It's a secret society, essentially.
Your headcanon makes a hell of a lot more sense than mine, though.
>>2217
Yeah, 3D isn't quite "there" yet, for a lot of people. Plus, the art styles of 2D are varied, and quite beautiful, at times. The only issue is that with 2D, I get what I get, while with 3D, I can make whatever I want, and tell exactly the stories that I want to tell. Of course, it might actually be better to have the 'tempering influence' of the 2D sets. When you can say anything at all, you can very quickly go into crazytown.
On the topic of 3DPD, though, not wanting to see it is the entire point. If I were going that route, which I don't plan to ever, it would be mostly to shock people into taking female pedophilia seriously. Right now, it's kind of a joke, in western society, especially if the woman is traditionally attractive. People put themselves in the kid's shoes, but they forget that the kid is a kid, and not them. I've discussed this before, so I won't go into it again, but I think you get what I'm saying.
I'm glad you like the Mommy Bubble pamphlets. I hope my endings are interesting enough, I haven't quite decided what exact direction I want to take this new one in, yet.
The Chapter 88 pamphlet is the 'sexecution' one. I explain it fully in the blogpost below, but in short, it's basically the Lilian murder ritual. If some man (not child) pisses them off enough, they'll "send him to our goddess for healing", meaning, they'll kill him. Of course, because they're the Lilians, they're killing him with a heroin milkshake, that they feed to him in a sexualized manner [ わかめ酒 (アダルト) ], and then they fuck him and cuddle him while he OD's. The idea came from a dream/nightmare that I had, and I'm still not sure if it's a good idea for a pamphlet. I think that if I haven't jumped the shark already, it could easily be with the Chapter 88 pamphlet.
The description is in the second paragraph
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/07/prewriting-for-future-plots.html
No.2225
>>2210
>I recently, as in, today, read a little booklet about how to write erotic fiction, which featured a very useful thesaurus for erotic terms and phrases.
Would this happen to be available online? If not, are there maybe similar guides that you've found helpful?
I like writing, and sex scenes are something I've wanted to try but I kind of have no clue how to make one that's any good.
No.2234
So glad you said you were going to be getting into more Lillian Ritual. Like a lot of erotic fiction the more a character is fleshed out the hotter it is.
And the idea of hearing about how these crazy dykes brainwash themselves. And it can show any side of them that you want. You can make sheep (Call out your offering of an orgasm everytime to Lilith. The more people in a room will make it a mantra). You can make them sweet if you want, (in the summer when you orgasm outside clean each other with a cloth and then wrap some soil and seeds in it and plant it. Lillith loves for her offerings to grow). Or just batshit insane (Lillian communion taken with breast milk for the boys. Women must lick the pussy of the highest priestess until she cums in order to bless their version of holy water. Which is used for spells and such).
It's great because you can reveal more about their mindset while still being erotic.
No.2235
Mommy Bubble 80's Cherrypop 2
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/07/mommy-bubble-80s-cherrypop-2.html
>>2225
The book is called, "How to Write Erotic Short Stories that Sell".
https://d.maxfile.ro/opccqomxrq.epub
I know this may or may not help you, but the best thing that I ever did for my writing, was to go to my local community college, and take classes on it. It's somewhat expensive, but if you're already going, and your major allows for those electives, it's a good idea. If you have access to things like Pell Grants, you could actually end up coming out ahead, money-wise. It really does help, especially the textbooks that they give you.
Just… community college. Going to a university to learn how to write erofics is a bit overkill, in my mind, unless you're flush with cash.
>>2234
Well, I've basically run out of shit to talk about, at this point. I haven't really gone into the day-to-day at the Temples, religion-wise. I've discussed the Acolyte and Nun programs, at length, but I don't think that I've ever talked about the regular services. In my headcanon, there would be a couple of different services, on Sundays. There would have to be a 'clean' service, for 'nontraditional' Lilian families, ie, families with men, and then a 'dirty' service, for women and kids.
I haven't really thought too much about what would go on at the services, although I have had a lot of fun imagining a southern baptist style 'singing preacher' with call and response, and organs, and shit. There's a lot that I could do with "laying on hands", as well, although that would get more into the 'parody' side of things.
A Lilian version of the song below would be fun, but again, it would be a parody. If you feminized the pronouns and references, replaced "Jesus" with "Lilith" and "the Savior" with "our Mother", you probably wouldn't actually have to change anything else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNA97IytdcQ
Interesting ideas for those rituals. I hadn't really put too much thought into them, although I guess I'll have to, now. Most of what I was thinking about, ritual-wise, were more solemn, catholic/orthodox style rituals, but yours sound a bit more fun. I definitely like the idea of planting the cum, especially if there was a "replanting trees", sort of, "earth/arbor day" element to it. That would be easy to 'revolutionize'.
I've given some thought to different communion and baptism rituals, most involving sexual fluids, and I've also given some thought to the concept of having the boys masturbate while facing a certain direction, but I'm wondering if it's better to be more original. Well, I've got at least a week to think about it, and probably two.
Also, I'm considering having the Chapter 88 pamphlet be about hypnosis and brainwashing, rather than straight up murder. It would take some of the 'edge' off of the overall concept, but there's the question of, "was the edge good?" I'm honestly not sure. Some people dig the whole 'murdered by sexy women' fetish.
No.2243
>>2235
You are FAR from running out of ideas. The ideas behind the Lillians are so crazy that the world you build for them can be very rich.And that is only the erotic stuff.
You can do a "new lillian family" block on how to start your life as a lillian. I think a hot one would be a "female conversion" block something about how to get single female business owners into the temple. Starting as a girls night out and ending as an orgy with an acolyte. Or maybe Holidays. I like the idea of fucking under the harvest moon in a freshly reaped field, the orgy being partially to fight off the cold as it is for sex.
And if you want a villainous thing for chapter 88 pamphlet without murder. Hippies that are unsavory don't murder, what they do instead is a type of chemical lobotomy using LSD. They will give someone like 200 hits of acid then make then experience something while the are tripping for days really hard.
No.2244
>>2235
>>2234
I like what you two are selling.
No.2269
Post Pubescent Slavery Handjob block
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/07/post-pubescent-slavery-handjob.html
>>2243
Yeeeah, I'm not really running out of stories to tell, so much as I'm running out of stories that are easy to tell. I'm bound to CGsets when it comes to these, no CG, no story. For example, the female conversion block would be something that I'd love to do, but it would be difficult to find a set where a group of women go out to a club, or wherever, even just to some wine tasting, and then come home, to fuck little boys, with all but one of them being all about it, while the one, is a bit apprehensive, but eventually comes around. I can write something like that quite easily, but finding the drawings to go with it, is the hard part. Exhentai helps with that, but it's still slow going.
When I was making the grimoire, I probably spent hours looking through CG sets, trying to find one that I could use for the grimoire. I still haven't found one to make a follow-up grimoire. That said, I did manage to find a good set for a type of storybook, about the Lilian concept of purgatory, where a lilian man who has strayed from the "true path" will be dominated by sexy succubi, before being allowed into Lilith's Domain. When I get around to actually making storybooks, that'll probably one of the first ones that I do. It kind of defeats the purpose of purgatory, if the person reading is a supersub, but whatever. I'm sure I can write around that. http://exhentai.org/g/159419/d596397b16/
I like your ideas for stories, and I'm kind of planning on doing something like a "New LIlian Family" pamphlet, more focused on the Cell and Circle life, since I haven't really tackled that, at all. What you're describing, with the harvest orgy, would probably be a Samhain block, which, oddly enough, I haven't really covered, at all. One of these days, I should probably get around to doing a pamphlet about the different holidays. Technically, I've discussed them in the different magazines, so the entire magazine set is supposed to be a type of 'holiday pamphlet', but in practice, that really isn't what's happened.
I'm starting to lean towards a more 'brainwashing with drugs' idea for the Chapter 88 block, maybe with one or two pages, that are like, "here's what you're supposed to do differently, if the goal is to kill, rather than to brainwash". Of course, it would be phrased differently, in the actual block.
>>2244
It is a lot of fun to think about, isn't it? The 'religion' fetish is something that doesn't get anywhere near enough play, which is quite odd. I think people are just scared of the possible repercussions. I've worried about that, especially when shamelessly ripping off taking inspiration from the Quran and Marian writings.
There's also the constant worry of people taking the religion too seriously. ಠ_ಠ
No.2271
>>2235
Thanks for the link. Unfortunately I didn't think that either of the sample sex scenes that the author provided were particularly good, but still, advice from someone who's written this sort of stuff is better than nothing. I might try taking inspiration from other fapfics and then applying the tips given by that guide.
The only class I've ever taken on writing was an elective in high school, which was fun but I don't think did much to help me improve. My biggest problem when writing is that I'm never happy with what I come up with, and then I go through long slumps where I don't write anything at all. By now I have a few ideas for /ss/ stories, but I have yet to bother getting started on any of them. Hopefully I will sometime soon.
No.2272
>>2269
Well there are two ways around looking for the exact pictures you want. The first would be to not use an entire CG set. Use part of one the use establishing shots. Yeah not every pic will be an erotic one if you use this method, but sometimes it is more important to set the mood.A big part of writing the way you do is letting the audience fill in gaps of the "boring" parts anyway with their imagination.
The second is to find a set you find erotic and fill in a lillian story to it, which I'm guessing is what the 80's mommy bubble was. Just make sure you have stories you WANT to tell first rather than just shoehorning a story For instance if you find a really erotic set that is in a train car it might not work. But if you wanted to tell the story of the high priestess of the newly formed Boston Temple traveling to Oregon for some ritual about it or something than it might work. If that makes sense.
No.2276
>>2271
I didn't even read the samples, I knew from her descriptions, that I wouldn't like them. Those stories do sell, though. Look at 50 shades.
At some point, you have to swallow your pride, steel yourself to the inevitable pricks, who contribute nothing aside from bad attitudes and insults, and start posting your work, online. Tumblr's an okay spot for that, although chans work, as well. Next, once you've gotten people looking at your work, you can start establishing a regular writing schedule. It's very difficult to actually be happy with what you write, but often, you'll find that a lot of the things that you despise, other people love. Eminem thought that "The Real Slim Shady" was complete drivel, and he was probably right, but that one stupid song sold him a zillion records, and he's a multi-millionaire now.
Don't worry about the slumps, those will decrease with time. I have slumps, as anyone who looks at my blog, can clearly attest to. The important thing, is improvement. My 'vacations' have been getting shorter and shorter, over time, and I'm doing better with my scheduling, as well. Just like everything else, it comes with time.
At first, it's best to write small chunks, just a few hundred characters, going through a regular story. Take a hentai picture, and go through the who, what, where, and why. Hell, take *any* picture, and go through the who, what, where, and why. These are essentially writing prompts, by the way, which are a very common exercise, for writers.
I usually try to write at the same time every day, and I've got a bit of a ritual, which involves brewing tea, and making cucumber sandwiches, and putting on either the disco or deep house DI station, and smoking a cigarette between the "writing" and "image editing" phases… but that's not really important. The important part is that there is a ritual, and that there is some time, that is set aside, each day, for writing.
A good idea, when you've got ideas, (heh) is to put those ideas out on paper, so to speak. You can do this in outline format, with bullet points, or you can just write, in a conversational, stream of consciousness style, about what you want to write. That's really all prewriting is, and you work out a lot of the kinks in your stories, by prewriting them, that way. There are probably 'better' ways to prewrite, but that's how I do it.
I'll give you a sample of what I mean, when I say, "who, what, where, and why" I'll be using the picture below.
Who: Two siblings, Rodica and Mihai
Where: With names like that? Obviously, they're in Romania, but yeah, they're in a house. Rodica's room.
What: Rodica is flashing her little brother while he reads a porno mag
Why: Because he's enamoured with the girls in the magazine, and she wants him to be enamoured with her
And here's the story that is written from that little prompt. It's not my best work, but it was done quickly, and off of a picture that was chosen at random. The story, as you'll notice, answers the question of "how".
Mihai and Rodica, two siblings, had just finished their daily jog, and were walking home, when Mihai spotted a sex shop on the corner, creatively named, "Sex Shop". As the two of them walked past, Mihai just couldn't take his eyes off the sexy lingerie and lewd toys, displayed in the window. Rodica noticed that he was a bit interested in the shop, and grinned widely. She asked him to wait outside, and sauntered in, picking out a nice little magazine for her younger brother. As she walked out with the plain black bag, he begged, and begged, to see what was inside. Of course, it was a secret!
When the two of them got home, they went to Rodica's room, and sat down on the bed. Mihai bounced up and down excitedly, anxious to find out what his lovely sister had bought for him at the sex shop. As she slowly pulled the magazine from its covering, the young boy began to blush, even as his smile widened. He grabbed the magazine, and leafed through it, growing stiff, as he drank in the lewd images. His sister, feeling a bit neglected, lifted up her shirt, to show off her well developed tits, for her sweet Mihai to compare, and contrast, with the fake, airbrushed, sluts, in the book.
Gazing on Rodica's tits, and the tits in the magazine, Mihai's little heart went, PAN! PAN! PAN!
No.2278
Mommy Bubble 80's Cherrypop 3
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/07/mommy-bubble-80s-cherrypop-3_22.html
>>2272
The issue with using multiple sets isn't so much that every pic isn't erotic, a huge part of the Timid Boys' pamphlet had totally worksafe pics, and it was just fine. The real issue is that the artists wouldn't match. I like to have a single artist per pamphlet, whenever possible, and I like to stick with single sets, just so there's no 'shock' of switching artstyles, every page. It's fine for something like the Timid Boys pamphlet, since that was largely guide content, but for a narrative about, say, Jenni and Aster, I can't mix and match 2 or 3 different Rinko/Sei sets. It would just end up looking wonky, and people would start wondering whether I'm telling 2 or 3 different stories. Maybe it's just a personal hangup of mine, I don't know. It does work with guides, though, and I do it quite a bit, with those. It's not a bad idea, it would just have to be executed well, on the production side, probably with a 'small-pic/author-monologue' page between the two sets, and a focus on guide content with a (generic) narrative element, like Timid Boys, rather than a narrative, with guide content supporting it, like Mommy Bubble 80s.
I think I get what you're saying in the second paragraph, basically, start with the set, and build the Lilian story around it, as opposed to starting with the story, and trying to find a set that will kind of work. That makes sense, although it's kind of difficult, because there are certain stories that I want to tell, like the Chapter 88 story. It definitely does work better, though, when you start with the set, and write for it, rather than starting with the text, and finding pics, later.
No.2279
>>2278
I would say the idea of a generic narrative element is a good one. Not just because it would allow for a little more freedom in your writing, but because of who you are writing to. Remember this is fantasy where the reader wants to imagine themselves in the situation. Which is great for a broad overview where they get to image many of the small details. It is better that they understand how a lillian babysitting service would recruit boys and how it would work rather than just one very specific instance where it is a little harder for the reader to insert themselves the way they would like.
I know a few guys that make micro budget movies. Movie that cost a few thousand bucks that they are happy to just make back with a small profit. They have a similar problem about writing with restraints. They can't write a fight scene on top of a train because it is not possible with the resources they have to film it. Your limitations but the sets you can find are similar. This is what makes you a stronger writer, by learning to write around those limitations while still getting your point across.
No.2284
Post Pubescent Slavery Footjob block
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/07/post-pubescent-slavery-footjob.html
>>2279
You know, as good as generic narratives are, fapwise, and as much as I understand this concept, on a cognitive level, I still love my characters. Theoretically, I could still have vibrant and unique female characters, who talk about what they like to do with "their boy". A bit like the Hooker Exploration (magazines/generic_specials/hooker_cherrypop) set. I guess that's something that I'll have to think about, and experiment with. I really love making characters, like Jenni, and the Editor, Windroot, Circe and of course, Lilith, herself. That said, I have found that the most enjoyable and popular narratives, have been the ones that featured more generic male characters, like the Milf Yuri story, or the Hooker Exploration story. The Acolyte Pamphlet was popular, as well. It's something that I'll have to put some serious consideration into.
It is a challenge to use the CG sets, but I agree, it has made me a much better writer, overall, and much more knowledgeable about the /ss/ scene in general, for whatever that's worth.
No.2319
>>2284
I do like the characters you build, a lot. I hope you're able to keep finding the sets that help you with a story. I've really liked what you've written so far.
Maybe lower-quality ss art could be used for like street rags or "amateur" Lillians trying to entice people, too. This way you can continue to expand the universe.
No.2321
Mommy Bubble 80's Cherrypop 4
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/07/mommy-bubble-80_28.html
>>2319
I'm glad that you like my characters, they're kind of samey at times, but I do my best. Hopefully, I'm getting better at writing in different voices. Realistically, there's almost an unlimited amount of shit that I could write for this project, especially if I manage to find some way to use mangas, without actually doing rewrites. There's definitely a place for "off-brand" Lilian ideas, especially if/when I take the story past the revolution. I most definitely do want to expand the universe, this is a fun project.
No.2356
you're losing everybody….
No.2357
>>2321
Glad to hear you're having fun. Yeah, the characters are kind of samey, but the occupations and the styles they like are fun. Sorry I haven't commented on the newer stuff this week - I've been really busy. I'll definitely comment when I read through it this weekend though!
No.2358
Mommy Bubble 80's Nudism Block
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/08/mommy-bubble-80s-nudism-retrospective.html
>>2356
eh, pageviews are about where they always are, and comments? Nobody ever comments on anything, these days.
>>2357
I'm looking forward to your thoughts! The big thing that I'm doing right now, with my writing, is "characterization". Before, it was all about the sex, then for a little while, it was about the organization and the religion, and now, it's about characterization. I'm trying to dip my toe into dialogue, as well, which is what the "Mennonite Molestation" pamphlet is going to be focused on. Creating fun, varied, and stylistically unique characters and speaking styles.
I'm thinking that I might have it be presented as the two gyarus reminiscing about their exploits in a fun, conversational style, playing off each other, in a sort of "girltalk" thing. If you're heard "Ralphi Rosario - You Used To Hold Me", the middle monologue (2:30) is something like what I'm talking about, tone-wise. Hopefully I can pull that off, I might have to dial it back a bit, because I don't want to waste such a great set, with poor writing. But then, if I never try it, I'll never learn it.
My prewriting for "Mennonite Molestation Madness" is at the end of http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/08/mommy-bubble-80s-porno-block_3.html , for reference.
No.2360
>>2327
I have never heard the word "hanger" for a boob before - is that a misspelling of "banger"? Just wondering. The second pic is interesting from the standpoint that she's a lesbian, and the legfuck is nice.
>>2351
I like this one a lot, mostly because it helps delve a little more into the Lillian world. I really like that. I also like the mom in this art set.
>>2355
I like the images and the text here - especially the change in tone for the lesbian. It seems like she's willing to accept the sexual part of slave-owning quite well, and enjoys it too, while expressing it's ok to let him dominate since she owns him.
>>2358
Characterization and dialogue huh?That seems interesting. It could be a really fun way to flesh out characters and the world around them, since it would give personality to these Lillians.I like the idea of it being like a "girltalk" thing. It will definitely help the characterization of the girls.
Mennonites, huh? Interesting direction, given what you've got in the blog. If I'm following, you've got Mennonites being adopted by Lillians and the Mormons as the story's antagonists? That'll be fun, just from the standpoint of the different faiths at work there.
No.2378
Post Pubescent Slavery Coital block
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/08/post-pubescent-slavery-coital.html
>>2360
Hanger is a relatively common term for "large, possibly saggy breasts". "Heavy Hangers" gets used a lot, especially in BBW porn. A lot of my terminology comes from half-remembered porno mags that I snuck peeks at when I was a kid. Hell, those magazines were a lot of the inspiration for my work. I'm glad that the foot fetish stuff came out okay. That is not in my area of expertise, in any way, shape, or form.
I enjoyed writing the MB80 porno block, because it gave me some space to discuss the Art Films from the Timid Boy pamphlet in more detail. I canonized in the Acolyte Training pamphlet, that the Temple makes crazy money off their films, so I think they deserve a bit more explanation. I did the ads, but those only present what they are, and there wasn't enough space in those, to discuss how they would be used, practically.
Carina kind of became my standout character here, since she's a lesbian. I liked giving her the complexity, though. She's very dominant, but she also has a submissive side, as well, that she's only really willing to let out, with someone like Qamar, because he's her slave. Kind of like the "rental submissive domination" thing that I talked about in the Acolyte Ad magazine block, for the Sister's Special Old issue. I want to use her surrogate sex page to show that her dominance manifests itself much more clearly in her lesbian relationships, than in her heterosexual, or even pedo relationships. Her foot fetish quirk really serves to give her some more character, as well.
I'm really looking forward to using some of the elements of writing, that I've explored both in PPS, and MB80, in MMM. The girltalk is probably going to be the most difficult, since it requires dialogue, which is something that I haven't done in forever, but I think I can handle it. I'm learning a lot about giving my characters character, with Yuna and Carina. Hopefully, I can make the 2 gyarus fun, interesting, and differed.
The Mennonite thing isn't totally set in stone, but the more I think about it, the more it seems like an interesting addition. They're more or less just being used as a way to show that the Lilians are willing to take advantage of a pretty terrible situation, to benefit themselves. One thing that I'll try to touch on, slightly, in the MMM story, is the fact that it's not all boys that are getting screwed by the Mormons. There are little Mennonite girls, that are largely being ignored by the Lilians, because more girls, means more competition.
I might, might, drop some hints that the Mormons are targeting the Mennonite girls, while the Lilians are targeting the Mennonite boys, in a sort of "Molotov-Ribbentrop" carve-up of the Mennonite community's children. If the Lilians have control of CPS, and the Mormons have control of SSI, they wouldn't be able to destroy the Mennonites separately, but together, they'd have an easy time of it. It's pretty dark, but I think that if I tell that story in little bite-size chunks, over the course of the entire pamphlet, and not all at once, it would go down a lot easier.
So that's another challenge. But the source material is good enough, so I figure that if I can manage to do the girltalk well, I'll be able to put out a really interesting and fun pamphlet.
No.2401
Hey, I wrote a long post earlier today about your stuff, but I wasn't allowed to post apparently I'mb&from my apartment BUT I love what you're doing with Carina, and I'm interested to see how the rest of your work goes!
No.2404
>>2401
Huh, did you post anything ban-worthy?
I don't remember banning anyone for things other than spam and real life shit.
Can you check /banned or whatever the URL was? I can lift it if I messed up.
No.2409
>>2404
I posted >>2363 thinking I was thanking the guy posting the doujins for a dump link. Turned out to be adfly.
It was a dumb move for not hitting the link to check it, but damn was it sad to see my post not happen here
of all threads on /ss/, this is the one I spend most of my time lurking
No.2410
>>2409
Damn, that sucks. I was the guy who reported that adfly link, actually. Talk about hoisted by my own petard. In the future, though, if you post a big reply, and it doesn't happen, you can usually just press back, and it'll still be there. If worst comes to worst, my blog actually has anonymous comments enabled, although it's a hell of a lot easier to respond to people here.
No.2420
>>2409
Oh, that's kinda embarrassing, I thought your reply was an automatic spam reply like the ones in old timey halfchan that would reply to themselves. Thy ban is lifted, sorry for the messup.
No.2440
I'm 'officially' taking a break from writing and releasing this week, but I got bored yesterday, and started the prewrite for Mennonite Molestation Madness. So, if anyone's interested in how that story is going to progess, I'll probably be doing that prewrite all this week. The first part (covering the basics of the pamphlet, and the first boy's story arc) is in the link, along with some of the pics that I used, so that you can follow along.
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/08/mennonite-molestation-madness.html
I have got to find a better name for this pamphlet
No.2448
The rest of the prewriting for Mennonite Molestation is done. I'll be back to doing official releases next Monday.
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/08/mennonite-molestation-madness_22.html
No.2464
>>2420
Believe me, it is embarrassing, but I should've known better and actually tried the link before thanking the poster. Thanks! Wish I took advantage, but I just got back to town so I couldn't.
>>2458
>>2453
I see there's more to read too. In a bit I'll get back to you on these
No.2468
Mommy Bubble 80's Weekend/Position 2 Retrospective
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.ro/2015/08/mommy-bubble-80s-weekendposition-2_28.html
>>2464
Always more, I'm really keeping up with the schedule, these days. Hopefully you like the newer stuff. Did you have any thoughts about the Mennonite Molestation stuff? I don't really want to start that pamphlet in earnest, before I get some feedback on the story, characters, all that stuff. It's a pretty big one, and it uses a set that's super well done, so I don't want to screw it up with poor writing.
By the way, as it's friday, and I've uploaded this week, the omnibus has been updated. I think at some point this weekend, I'm going to work out the deep logistics of doing patches to a single Omnibus, rather than having people download the full 30MB file every week. It shouldn't be difficult, since I'm only really doing 6-8 pics per week. The difficult part is arranging it in a way that it's like a single click installer sort of thing.
No.2548
You are the hero we need. Thank you for your hard work.
No.2565
>>2555
>If y'all would comment on shit, maybe I'd have a better idea of what is and is not sexy to you.
I rarely comment because the whole storyline is a bit of a turnoff for me. Personally I just like vanilla hentai, where it's romantic with a cute couple.
I get that you want this story to be a partial reflection of reality, and for it to be sort of dark and disturbing, which is totally fine but also results in it doing nothing for me. I always read the new stuff you post, but if I commented and offered suggestions, it'd pretty much just be me asking you to write stuff completely different. I think you're a great writer but I usually choose to just not comment.
No.2573
>>2555
Well i think the 80's mommy bubble has run it's course. Like there isn't much more story to get out of the narrative.
If you want to know what is sexy it is situation development as well as character development. We already know how lillian sex at home works. It's good to develop other parts of the narrative.
No.2575
>>2468
>>2453
>>2503
>>2547
>>2563
I like a lot of what you've got here - you've done what you can to show how the sex can be mutual, and that the son can even kind of signal to his mother that he wants it, and in some cases she will give it. I like how the thought process of the pamphlet indicates that this comes as part of the mutual benefit of both, and how she's still in control, especially since the cooking scene does give the idea that he is in fact the one running the show.
>>2502
I liked this. The simple exchange between mothers shows a little more humanity to the madness, and the way they play off one another was nice, even if it was simple.
>>2510
I like it, but did the colors swap in the last slide? It felt like the writing was a little off, but I still really liked what you're selling here.
>>2555
So far, so good. I see you're really going to build stories now like you mentioned before to give the women some character. I like it!
No.2582
Mennonite Madness City Bus Flashing/Handjob
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.md/2015/09/mennonite-madness-city-bus_14.html
>>2565
Well, that's understandable. The overarching story is the overarching story. It's kind of written for an audience that likes femdom, is into the idea of institutionalized sex, and also has a bit of a religion fetish. This post does help, though. It tells me that there is a contingent that reads this stuff more for the story, and less because it's actively titillating them. Also, it tells me that a more romantic approach, with less "cult" stuff, could be a nice reprieve, story-wise. Thanks for the comment, and thanks for the compliment :)
>>2573
It has, but I'm about done with it, so please bear with me. We're basically in the conclusion, right now. I'm focusing (writing-wise) on Characters right now, because I haven't so far, and this is as much a learning experience for me, as it is anything else. I'll keep that in mind, about the situational development. I'm assuming here, that by situational development, you're talking about the sort of things that I was doing in Mommy Bubble 90's? The sort of linear storytelling, with a beginning, middle and end? I can definitely see that Mommy Bubble 80's kind of doesn't have that, as much, especially after the cherrypop scene.
>>2575
One of the ideas that I sort of came up with, while I was writing the one-shot dual narratives, was the "son bubble". Basically, the son is kind of attached to the mother at the hip, but then, the mother is attached to the son, as well, and over time, they kind of start to look like more of a traditional Jehovan married couple, than a mother and son. Of course, there would be an element of the Lilians that would consider this to be ultra-blasphemous, since it's not so much a slave and mistress, as it is a man and wife situation.
One of the big questions that I want to be in the reader's mind, at the end of Mommy Bubble 80's, is whether the boy is, in the end, actually the one in charge. Heather would say no, but I kind of want it to be something that the reader thinks about for themselves. It's along the same lines as, the whole bukkake (or fellatio) thing, in the Chapter 58 pamphlet.
Son Swapping was a decent amount of fun, both to write, and even to read, after. I should probably, at some point, go back to making more simple one-shot type deals. Not everything has to be a 50 page erotic juggernaut.
The last page of Dual Mommy Healing was a mess, to be honest. I think I was either writing it really late at night, or early, right before I left for work, so I got to the last page, and I just kind of rushed through it, tossed a bunch of sex down, and called it good. That one was actually very difficult to write. The characters were tough to differentiate, and the story itself was really, really, emotionally draining. By the end, I was ready for it to be over, which is why it didn't really have much of a conclusion. I just kind of said, "hey, these are practice for Mennonite Madness anyway, so whatever".
I'm glad you're liking Mennonite Madness so far. Fun fact, the prewrites were actually some of the most viewed posts on the blog, in months. Clearly, there is quite a bit of enthusiasm for this pamphlet, hopefully my actual productions manage to live up to the expectations.
No.2602
>>2597
Off-topic, but do you have any plans of releasing a guide for LRLB Taisen? All i want to do is get the stripper boy ;_;
No.2603
>>2602
I actually released a guide, back when LRLB Taisen was LRLB Gaiden, but that was back when I was in High School.
Guides are a ton of work. At some point, I might do a little let's play of LRLB Taisen, just to do a Let's Play, and have that experience, but I also might not. They really are a ton of work. At any rate,
You have to go to the bookshelf at the church, and read the book about being a nun, then you have to dress in the nun habit, and go to the Indie Bar, and talk to the guy guarding the back, and tell him that you're "here for your weekly visit", and then tell stripper boy that it's cool that he faps, but you have to get him out of the strip club and goddamn, I made stripper boy really hard to get… If you're a pioneer youth group leader, as in, a member of MEK, it's a hell of a lot easier.
I might consider doing some sort of LRLB guide/let's-play in the future. I did make that game "Sierra Hard", and for no apparent reason.
No.2710
I'm convalescing this week, so the normal schedule probably isn't going to happen. Sorry!
No.2714
This is a miscellaneous grimoire page, I'll probably do a few more of these, here and there. They're relatively easy to make, and fun, too. It's pretty obvious where the inspiration for this one came from. I always feel a little weird about renaming established characters, by the way. Palutena is definitely not "Rafaela". But whatever.
I'll be doing a single retrospective for this week, on friday. Most likely, friday's release will be another faux CD cover.
No.2720
Miscellaneous Lilian Stuff
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.md/2015/10/miscellaneous-lilian-stuff-retrospective.html
This retrospective covers everything from this week. The omnibus will be updated when maxfile starts working again.
No.2755
>>2582
>>2597
I like the banter you've got going on in this pair of cards. The two girls play off one another very well, and it shows differences in approach that I was enjoying in the previous pamphlets in action.
>>2637
I wonder…loosely-lipped sons might spill the beans and cause a variety of positives (converts) or negatives (child protection) and would sucking a son off too early create a high that would make him slip up?
No.2785
Mennonite Madness Black Intro
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.md/2015/10/mennonite-madness-black-intro_12.html
>>2755
I'm glad the dual narrative thing is working out. I feel like I'm more or less doing Yuna and Carina all over again, but since the situation is different, it's probably okay. There's nothing wrong with character archetypes, I guess, as long as they're good archetypes. "Dommy Fighter" and "Slutty Nurturer" are quite popular character types in femdom, and for good reason. They gel together well, and appeal to most of the femdom crowd, quite equally.
I'm really enjoying fleshing out these particular characters, and kind of making them similar, but different, to Yuna and Carina.
While Carina expressed her dominance through very specific, fetishistic, acts, Honey expresses hers, through speech, and actual, physical, violence. Carina was largely a lesbian, but she liked getting facefucked by her slave. Honey, on the other end, is actually mostly straight, and while she likes rough sex, both giving and receiving, she's not actually into submission in any way, just straight masochism, and she makes sure to give as much as she receives. Honey is more predatory, although Carina did show some very mild shades of that, particularly with Noora. In Post Pubescent Slavery, I think Yuna was actually the more predatory one, while Carina was a bit more maternal.
Yuna and Platinum both love fucking majority age men, but while Yuna was more into teasing the local arab men, Platinum likes to surround herself with slaves, and act like their 'angel', relieving their sexual urges, and pampering them, emotionally. Yuna seemed like she was in the Temple because it was fun, and it gave her a solid, easy, job. Platinum seems like a true believer, who feels that the Temple is like a harbinger of world peace, and universal love. Yuna was a bit more (playfully) rude, while Platinum is far more mother-bearish.
I think part of the whole 'mommy bubble' idea, is to keep the son from ever developing any relationships that would be close enough for him to spill the beans. He's thinking of mommy all day, and rushing home, after school, so there's no time for friends.
Probably though, it wouldn't actually work, lol
No.2967
I am sorry it took me two months to get back here
>>2647
>>2742
I really like the back and forth, and I know I say it every time I read it, but the dialogue makes things more interesting
>Negotiation
Slaves have bargaining rights?
>>2849
The approach to "bad boys" and drugs are also very interesting. Do the side effects of things like Boulder Bubble come back to bite them? Seems like the business does well if they're moving so much, but how do they get it out? More friends in high places, like that judge mentioned in the interstitial?
>>2752
Nice way to get a crone in there! Definitely something they'd write to get boys interested in older women
>>2792
I liked this too, since the "tribute" always seems like a facial and it's a nice spin on something that definitely seems more degrading than revolutionary
>>2811
>>2801
I like what you did here too. The boy used as a tool to convert someone. I do think the font colors could've been better, at least for the second pic, since I had to re-read to make sure I had the right character, but other than that I liked it!
>>2852
Wow, there seems to be a real risk involved with Ishtar
>>2944
>>2963
Well, this isn't erotic at all, but I find the world-building aspect very interesting. I'm also surprised that counter-revolution isn't met with death, actually. What made you stop at blacklisting and cash damages?
No.2976
Mennonite Madness Black and Blue Outro/Intro Retrospective
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.md/2015/11/mennonite-madness-black-and-blue_17.html
>>2967
As always, thanks for your input. It does help, seeing what people think about my stuff. Going on pageviews is a really tough metric, especially when the pageviews are more or less the same, every time.
I'm glad the dialogue is working. It's getting easier to write each time, and I might consider doing a few more dialogue-type sets, later on. They do tend to get more pageviews…
The slave negotiation thing is kind of funny, actually. In my headcanon, the Lilians basically need their slaves, a bit more than the slaves need them. In the first little bit of Mennonite Madness, the General Secretary talks about "sustainability models". Before 1996, the sustainability model of pretty much every Lilian community, was "Aid to Families with Dependent Children". Basically, permanent welfare, for single mothers, which the Lilians all were.
In 1996, that program was replaced with, "Temporary Assistance for Needy Families". Note the word, "Temporary". The Lilians had to either find jobs for their women, or mobilize the slaves. Unsurprisingly, they mobilized the slaves. Of course, with unpaid factory work, comes grievances, and the Lilians can't exactly fire people. So on some level, the slaves would have to have some sort of bargaining power, even if it's extremely unofficial.
In my headcanon, the Boulder Bubble thing is mostly just a side gig for that particular Temple business. They make normal sodas as their main thing, something along the lines of Faygo, or Shasta, or Adria Cola. But for some extra money, and some extra prestige, within the wider Temple Congress, they make Boulder Bubble, and hide the shipments among their regular stock. I would imagine that the effects might be a problem, possible addiction, or OD's, or something, but that's another story, for another time.
I'm glad the Crone Strike and Lilian Bukkake sets came off well. I'm considering doing more one-shots, since they're easy and fun to write, and really expand on a lot of little overarching storyline elements, in ways that a full pamphlet wouldn't really do, well.
In my headcanon, the boys would be used to convert, quite a bit. Convert, or just blackmail. I kind of tried to imply, in the Blonde Outro, that the Lilians had basically sent a team of Lilian Lolidoms to fuck the judge, film it, and then hang the tapes over his head, in exchange for preferential treatment. It's not unreasonable to think that the acolytes would be used in a similar way.
If I ever get around to it, I want to have something of a "Nun's Apprentice" type of set/pamphlet, that goes over the female equivalent of Acolytes, which would be called "Apprentices", and be matched to Nuns, for like, domination training.
I wanted Ishtar to be like a "final boss" for the "summoning minigame" that would be in any future LRLB game. Of course, I actually have to get up off my ass, and make that game, first. Buuut, I'm learning Unity, working on Momcest Trainer, and meeting different artists and other game-makers, so who knows? The next LRLB could be right around the corner.
Heh, the bisexual thing wasn't really meant to be sexy, I just wanted to cover the Lilian justice system, in depth. It's an element of the story that I hadn't ever gone into. Of course, there's no real way to make legalese sexy, so I went for a more "dark/dry humor" approach. As far as the punishment not being death, in the wise words of D'Angelo Barksdale, "5-0 be down here about the bodies, yo". Wasting a woman and a kid is a surefire way to get the Swedish version of RICO on the case.
No.2983
>>2976
THese two are interesting too, perhaps more interesting is the Black&Blue image here, since it shows skepticism on the part of the Lillians, as well as tho much they're going to accept from someone new. I think that's an interesting place to take things to.
So the slaves are laborers too? Would they consider rising up if they think the women aren't showing them authentic Lillian love, especially if they realize just how little they get in negotiation? I think it could be fun to write about, even if it isn't sexy.
Yeah, go for more one-offs if you're enjoying them! It'll be fun.
Ishtar seemed that way - a final boss - but I wasn't sure if her benefits outweigh her risks. Game-wise, would credits rolls, or would it affect your stats, after trying to summon her?
Blackmail seems like how they'd get themselves into a position of power in communities that don't care for them. It'd be a very tangled system, but it works into their growth and takeover
Personally, I'm happy the case wasn't meant to be sexy. I like the world-building, and that's certainly not something I expected to see.
No.2996
Mennonite Madness Blue's Blows
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.md/2015/11/mennonite-madness-blues-blows_20.html
>>2983
I wanted to make the Lilians a bit more discerning about who they take in, especially when people come to them. In my headcanon, the standard operating procedure is to find someone vulnerable, give them a reason to join the Lilians, and then reel them in with promises of hot sex, no work, and universal acceptance. Basic cult recruitment. When people come in unannounced, though, it throws off the power dynamic, so they have to be a little more cautious. We'll be seeing why, later on. I've got big plans for Blue's story.
I decided early on that the Lilian men would be the "backbone" of the entire Lilian program, since a lot of the (off camera, mostly) family recruitment focuses on struggling single moms, who go into the Lilians for the easy lifestyle, and then learn to love the sexual aspects, later. Without the slaves, the entire system falls apart, and so, the whole (post TANF) program has a huge focus on limiting the number of slaves that a Temple needs, and professionalizing them, in a way that keeps them a bit more alienated from each other, and substantially more dependent on the Lilians, for their emotional needs. That was more or less what the Post Pubescent Slavery pamphlet was about. It's an interesting concept to think about though, and I'll probably be revisiting it later, in one way or another.
I'll probably be doing a lot more one-offs, since people seem to like them, and they break up some of the drudgery that comes from seeing the same characters, week after week after week, the way that you do, when I'm doing like 2 pamphlets at the same time. I know people kind of got sick of seeing the Mommy Bubble 80's characters all the time.
I think game-wise, Ishtar would essentially be a late game thing, because after getting her on board, you're basically part Goddess, yourself. You've summoned enough Officers to be unstoppable, and you've convinced the 2nd in command of the overall Lilian revolution, to give you the time of day. So you're more or less the Lilian Empress, at that point.
I think blackmail and subterfuge in general, is the only way that the group would be able to operate realistically. I mean, they're a massive doomsday cult, with pro-pedo stuff written into their holy book. It's like Waco all over again, which could give the government some pause, but not enough to actually stop them from making arrests. I kind of want to imply, at some point, that the powers of the different Officers kind of make this possible, though. A couple of them have some light mind-control powers, which would most likely be used on police and judges, if the 'lolidom blackmail' plan didn't work out.
No.3118
>>3061
Now that is a story worth creating. A Freaky Femped block. I love the idea of a famous singer making something secret for her sisters in her sex cult to sell and make money as her way of contributing. and there is a number of ways the story could go depending on what you find for pics. Practicing her faith on the road when she is her "normal" self. You could do a whole Jem thing where she comes back to the Eugene temple after a tour to get back in touch. It'd be great.
Only question I got is since you have seen firsthand hippie fempeds and how they think and work doesn't it worry you that you have now made at this point a working (albeit clunky) Femped bible?
No.3119
Sailor Sluts Catalog Jupiter Interview 1
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.md/2015/12/sailor-sluts-catalog-jupiter-interview.html
>>3118
It would be interesting doing a magazine-style interview with "Freaky Femped". It actually would be pretty simple to do, as well. While /ss/ pictures of that character are sometimes difficult to find, straight up lewds are all over the place. I'd probably do one for Wicked Witch at the same time, since I actually like her waaaay more than Freaky Femped. The only issue is that there's a very limited amount of actual content for that character, and an interview would take 2 pictures. So we'll see, I guess. There are a ton of really interesting and fun stories that you could tell with a femped pop star, though.
Theoretically, I coooould reuse some of the album covers, by taking them, and writing narratives for them, and then saying that it's like a "where did the idea for this album cover come from" sort of thing. That's pushing it ever so slightly, though. Maybe liner notes? I'll have to think about this.
As for your second question, I do think about that, actually, I think about it a lot. A whole lot. It's very much a concern of mine, especially since the religion, and the story, and everything, are largely written specifically to be appealing. Mostly appealing to young men, but I'm sure there are elements that would appeal to young women, as well. Basically, I just have to trust the maturity of my audience, and avoid posting the stories to places where real fempeds congregate. Or where women in general congregate. If a man becomes a Lilian, he jerks off to Lilith. Big deal. If a woman becomes a Lilian, though, she could theoretically do a lot of damage, especially if she's the charismatic type.
But that's why I don't post this stuff on Tumblr. It's not so much that I'd get banned, I would, but it's dead easy to make a new Tumblr blog, and they tend to be really slow, when it comes to cleaning up their website. Or at least they used to be. Anyway, there are probably other ways around it as well, like using links, as opposed to directly hosting the content on Tumblr itself.
But I don't use Tumblr for this project. It would be great to get PMs from people, and have the little heart system to tell me what people like and don't like, and all that jazz, and I loved posting this stuff on Tumblr, when I was still on there. But the Tumblr people weren't mature enough to handle it. They took it too seriously, and they stroked my ego, and they asked me for advice, and really, all that shit's bad. As much as I'd love to be the prophet to a cult of fat hippy girls with femdom fetishes… It would be bad.
So yeah, it is something that I worry about, but I try to take steps, to avoid the actual adoption of these ideas, mostly by keeping them away from the people who would most readily (and most destructively) adopt them, and telling people off, every time they get too positive with their comments mostly, this is to avoid creating a situation where they can stroke my ego, and talk me into becoming a Lilith worshiper. Remember, the Lilian faith appeals to me as much as it appeals to everyone else, and probably moreso, since I keep writing the shit. I've made it clear that I am not a Lilian, and I can only hope that the people who are inclined to believe in this sort of thing, take my dismissal, as proof of the Lilian ideology's theological bankruptcy.
No.3121
>>3119
Well I won't stroke your ego too much then, but I will say that your writing is good enough, and the world you create is rich enough that it merits thought beyond just the material provided. Without taking it too seriously it is still fun to fantasize about. Like I imagine there is a Lillian summer camp for underprivileged boys, probably in upstate NY. It grooms the boys for when they go home rather than straight up trying to convert them there. Might act as a retreat/safehouse the rest of the year.
Point is that makes the world you've created a rich one for not just jerk off material, but how such a fucked up organization could operate. Wherein lies the danger, I mentioned to you on 7chan that I knew one femped years ago that shared a lot in common with the Lillians. She was able to justify just enough that those that knew, myself included, never got her in trouble. The typical, "wouldn't you have wanted to fuck her when you were 12?" and of course the call of the femped, "I take care of him better and care for him more than his parents do."
I imagine if she had this framework she probably could have taken others with her down that path. Which while I find that hot in fantasy land, I find it disturbing as a reality.
No.3125
Sailor Sluts Catalog Jizz for Jupiter 1 Ad
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.md/2015/12/sailor-sluts-catalog-jizz-for-jupiter-1_11.html
>>3121
Fempeds do have about 1,000 answers for the question of, 'why shouldn't I call the police', which is somewhat unfortunate. I do wonder how much support a Lilian femped IRL would actually have, though, considering the extreme nature of certain Lilian beliefs. That said, I guess if she was around the right (wrong) people, and she framed the arguments well, she could probably convince them. It would most likely depend on the specific boys that she was targeting, as well. If it's like, her or the crips, it would be a lot easier to justify, than if it was her or the debate team.
That's one of the reasons why a lot of my 'recruitment guide' things tend to subtly imply that the boys are kind of inner city, or at least poor. In the propaganda, they're going after middle class boys, but in the (internal use) guides, there are a lot of hints that these boys come from rougher areas. In my headcanon, the Lilians specifically tend to target those boys, since they're more desperate for adult attention, cheaper dates across the board, and far less likely to be fought over, when it comes time to get CPS involved.
The Lilian summer camp idea is actually pretty neat. It would be cool if I could find some sort of non-sexual content, to use for that. I know there's a lot of non-sexual stuff in pink-noise's tropical /ss/ set, but I kinda had that one earmarked for the Chapter 88 pamphlet. Of course, this would probably be a lot easier to write. Don't be surprised if you see a set like that, at some point in the semi-near future.
No.3131
>>3125
Well that's just it. Groupthink is a lot easier than most people realize, especially when it is something that is easily looked at as positive like sex. Something like 20% of neo-nazis weren't racist until they fell into a group on neo-nazis with another interest, Working out or love of movies. All of a sudden you have this group of friends and one day they ask "you hate black people. right?" People just fall in line with it.
I'd imagine the DOL are the same way. There hasn't been much on recruiting adult females but that is how they would work. They would be friendly, share drugs, all of a sudden they jusyt go, "you like fucking boys right?" and bob's your uncle.
Lilllians would be that sort of predator. Just asthey look for easy boys to fuck, the look for easy women to convert. It would be all about using people to get what the want. Sex would be their currency.
Did I mention I studied Sociology and am very well versed in it?
No.3172
Lilian Slave Pricing 1
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.md/2015/12/lilian-slave-pricing-1-retrospective.html
>>3131
Interesting idea. I kind of explored how the Lilians would recruit women last year, when I was doing some prewriting. http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.md/2014/09/yule-issue-general-ideas.html
It's something that I should probably re-explore, if I find some good pix. I'm starting to get to a point, in the story, where I can explore less overtly sexual concepts. So I'll be on the lookout.
This new pamphlet, by the way, was inspired by your(?) summer-camp idea. I'm sure it's different than what you'd be expecting, but I feel like it explores a really interesting idea, and challenges the shit out of the reader.
No.3179
>>3172
>>3172
Well it is good to explore different ideas in your writing. And yes,less overtly sexual subjects are great. Just as just like action movies that are nothing BUT action get boring. Porn works the same way. The reader has to care about why something is happening rather than just know what is happening.
That being said I've always imagined the DOL to be kinda like the feminist version of the Hell's Angels. But getting their power from sex and blackmail rather than violence and intimidation. With a cult mindset thrown in for good measure.
In the Lillian world this would translate to doing
things like finding a struggling woman who owns a yoga studio. They get her convert and now she's getting business. Then they brainwash her into hating men, then blackmail her and use their legal connections to get her a divorce with the best possible alimony. By the end she's runing her studio but training te acolytes to become more flexible thus worth more to the clients. And they are storing Boulder Bubble in the back room.
Yeah this is way off from where I thought you would go, but I love the "full dark" idea here. Going into full trafficking of boys for those at the top who want "something special". I've been kind waiting for you to hit this point.
I gotta say thanks, I do like having jerk off material that I can over analyse like this, it's fun.
No.3182
Sailor Sluts Mars Interview
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.md/2015/12/sailor-sluts-mars-interview_16.html
>>3179
That is a good point about less sexual subjects. I think Btongue's point about slowing down the violence (https://youtu.be/5ZM2jXyvGOc) applies here. Especially since the Lilian project has a lot of deeper ideas in it, just begging to be explored. It's so tough to find good non sexual /ss/ artwork, though. I know it exists, and there's tons of it out there, but it's still sometimes tough to find.
Your scenario about the yoga studio is really interesting, and pretty realistic, considering how the Lilians operate. Working the acolytes and drugs into it, probably over time, would be pretty interesting, storyline-wise. It's something that would make a neat little short story.
The thing that I love about the trafficking subplot, is just how grey you can make it. The boys could end up becoming gang members or drug dealers in their original environment, but at the same time, the Lilians are just going to turn them into sex slaves, and then apparatchiks (or possibly assassins/thugs) anyway. So it's an interesting little debate.
The analyses are really cool, by the way. They help me to flesh out the overall storyline, which is really what sets this project apart from the standard, "boy fucks his mom" /ss/ stories that we've all come to know and love.
No.3188
>>3182
>>3182
I'm not saying you need to stop using sex to tell a story. Just that there should be the story telling the sex. Not the other way around. I'm sure there is some of that, but it shouldn't be the main focus.
Which is why I have mentioned doinng Lillian rituals before. We learn more about them and can get some cool sex scenes at the same time. Like I imagine Lillians would never say "I love you" to another Lillian. They would say "Lilith loves you" to mean the same thing. Which also implies the temple as a whole does as well thus giving the whole cult mindset. Or that they would have a specific ritual orgy for women that want a baby. It would be at the end of summer so they could still play next summer and aren't so far along they couldn't enjoy the harvest orgy. And they would just invite the best breeding stock. Maybe it even over a couple days where every boy deemed "proper stock" has sex with every woman so no male knows who their child is. Keeping the female dominant "I own my child" thing going. I've mentioned the tree planting ritual where they plant trees with cum making the boys part of nature. Or the Lillian version of a bat mitvah, where I'd imagine birth control is given like communion and she can now take one of the thrown away post pubescent boys as a slave for life.
Sexual, but it gives a deeper look into how their minds work. So you can do both.
No.3189
People forget that the largest erogenous zone on the body is the mind. I guess I think about these things because it makes such a great jumping off point for fantasies to jerk off to. The academic interest just leads to more fantasies but is also quit interesting in it own right.
That and it gives me an idealized version of my own experiences. For as evil as the DOL are I wish I had one of them using me as a kid rather than what I got.
No.3266
Lilian Slave Pricing 2
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.md/2015/12/lilian-slave-pricing-2-retrospective.html
>>3188
I think I get what you mean about having the story tell the sex. Like, start with a solid idea for the story, and then build the sex around it. It's at least something to think about.
I've always kind of felt like the Lilians would actually avoid using the term "Lilith", outside of theological discussion, and of course, with the boys' solo-worship. In my headcanon, there's more of a focus on Lilith being a mother-type goddess, so when a woman says, "Mama loves you" or anything similar, the implication would be that she's also talking about Lilith. Personally, I think that's a very elegant way of doing it, that makes the whole cult seem like one big family. Of course, this means that you'd sometimes see 16 year old girls saying to their 12 (or 19) year old boyfriends, to "come snuggle with mama", but hey, maybe they pull it off.
The different ritual ideas are pretty neat, I've been wanting to play with different ritual ideas, for a while, but it's kind of slow going on that front, since they're actually kinda difficult to think up, and then taking them to the point of a release, is even more difficult. I'll probably start doing more of them, when I finally make the switch to a more text-based format. The Bat Mitzvah idea would make a particularly straightforward one. I've actually got a really fun idea for a ritual/story, but there's no way in hell I'd be able to find a picture for it. So it'll probably be my first little foray (at least in a while) into short stories.
>>3189
Yeah, these are more meant as a jumping off point for personal fantasies, which is why so many of them revolve around mutual masturbation with 'the goddess'. As for your second point, that is kinda part of it. These things happen all the time, just with random borderliner chicks, but with the daughters, it's done in a way that is organized, institutionalized, and provides a ton of aftercare. It's idealized, but it's kind of supposed to be.
On some level, it's almost an attempt at harm reduction, on my part. A woman shouldn't ever be doing these things, but if she's going to be raping a child, it would be better for her to do it slowly and gradually, giving him lots of "processing time" in between the different escalations, like in the Timid Boys pamphlet, than to do it quick and crazy, with 0 warning, and then entering into a fast-paced, short-lived, relationship, like in Encounters with Rayne.
No.3282
>>3266
That is a matter that also might be great. The conversion of fempeds into the "safer" version of a lillian. This could have the double effect of actual fempeds thinking about the idealized version and what is the correct way to do it. While also being slightly cathartic. Instead of physical and emotional abuse they would learn how to do it correctly and not as crazy.
No.3285
Sailor Sluts Venus Interview
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.md/2015/12/sailor-sluts-venus-interview_29.html
>>3282
A 'when sex isn't an option' pamphlet would be something that I'm open to, but it would have to be done really well, and it would have to be something that I put a ton of thought into, since at that point, it really would be my attempt at harm reduction. I can always say that my stuff is fantasy only, if I keep it in fantasy, but when you cross that line, you really have to be careful. But it is something that I'm open to.
Probably, if it ever sees the light of day, it'll be the magnum opus, for when I'm finally ready to end the Daughters of Lilith project. For now, though, I think that the Lilian Slave Pricing guide would serve the purpose well enough.
No.3288
>>3285
I didn't mean for it to come off that I didn't understand the difference between fantasy and reality. I was trying to just suggest something that is akin to a "moral failsafe" than anything else.
As long as there are adult women that are insecure finding awkward, horny boys this sort of thing will continue to happen. I don't encourage it because it is almost always harmful in our type of society. But the idea of what NOT to do to make it better if it does happen is not a bad idea. Imagine taking a femped that the boys she manipulates is left heavily scared and a lillian tells her what she is doing is fine, but with a softer touch.
Without going into to much detail, I was a horny kid. I started having sex at age 11 with an older woman. She kept her control over me with sex, but I was tortured physically (beaten, abused, and hurt before, during, and after sex) tortured emotionally (she was emotionally manipulative, full on psychopath) and humiliated privately and publicly for her amusement.
A lillian would want a healthy child to help with the revolution. Make him submissive, but not a blubbering wreck. I like the idea of a lillian finding one of these women who in my head cannon would just be called a "lost child of the revolution." and correcting her ways. Making her a femped that want to help the revolution instead of making fucked up men.
Ok maybe I added too much into my own ideas on this one. Part of why we love shota is because it is how we understand pure love if it has happened to you.Just maybe a way if they HAVE to do it (which, honestly as much as it turns me on, I wish wouldn't happen) it is in a non-harmful way.
No.3292
Sister's Special Magazine Intros
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.md/2015/12/sisters-special-magazine-intros_30.html
>>3288
Nah, I get that you understand the difference. The issue is more on my end. It would be difficult for me to write a 'how to be an ethical Lilian' thing, without having it be hypermeta, and end up being a sort of, "you know, we've had a lot of fun here, but…" piece. Funnily enough, I think that if I tried to make a "how to do 'childlove' as a femped without actually fucking little kids" pamphlet, people would actually get pissed off. I can write as much of this fantasy theological stuff as I want, but when it suddenly becomes real, I could really see people getting pissed.
I think that on some level, a lot of my existing work, particularly the first half of the Timid Boys pamphlet, kind of covers that whole "how to not ruin a kids life with your messed up fetish" thing, but it doesn't really take a focused, pointed, approach. It's also firmly rooted in the fantasy of it all. I could certainly do something along the same lines, but a bit more tongue in cheek, and a bit less "Theology-Heavy". It's certainly something that I'd have to think about, though. At that point, you really are doing harm reduction, and you can't fuck that up. But then, I'm the one who's making it harm reduction, so there's always the argument of, "well, just write it like a normal pamphlet". Which would certainly make things easier.
I think you may have told your story on here before, but then, it might also be a really common story. Fempeds are often pretty brutal, and often ridiculously manipulative. It's why they're able to fly under the radar so well.
I think that if I were going to write a straightforward, non-fantasy, harm reduction guide for fempeds, it would essentially center around lots of maternal and sororal affection, snuggles, forehead kisses, etc. It would incorporate reading to the kid, taking him to the library, listening to him, watching documentaries, and the news, along with regular kid flicks, taking him to see popular movies, basically just being a really cool (but positive) older sister figure.
I had a figure like that in my life for a short time, and she may or may not have been a femped (she was kind of a proto-shotacon), but she was a really positive influence in my life, and I didn't have a whole lot of those, at the time. She provided a safe space, and I really didn't have a whole lot of those. She was very affectionate, but she also understood where "the line" was, and she didn't cross it. So if I were going to write a real harm reduction guide, it would essentially be a reformed version of my story with her.
The difficulty at that point, would be deciding whether to go the 'antiped' route, which could easily be as ignored as the other antiped content, or to go full 'harm reduction', and discuss having a "low-impact-raping" type of relationship, which would be more accepted, and read, but would essentially become a rape manual.
Of course, the obvious solution is just to, again, write it as a normal Lilian production, framed within the story, and let people decide on their own how they want to take it.
The 'lost child of the revolution' idea is a good one, though. At the very least, that's a nice way of saying it. I'll be keeping it in mind, and checking out gelbooru, exhentai, and pixiv for nice pics. It's definitely something that I'm open to. I'd just have to put a lot of thought into how I was going to frame it, exactly.
No.3293
>>3288
Actually, rereading that, are you essentially talking more about something based on a rape scene, like the one in the pictures, and then the text is like, "and here's what she did wrong here, and here" and then the rest of the set would be a situation that's more equitable, and the text is essentially "correcting" her? That would actually be a lot easier to do, on like 4 or 5 levels.
No.3308
>>3293
Kinda. The "Goofus&Galiant" idea is easy enough and should easily be able to find pics to go with it. I'd imagine that looking for these "lost children of the revolution" wouldn't be a top priority but something the DOL would constantly be on the lookout for for a number of reasons.
1) Those fempeds would be considered counter-revolutionary. The harm they do would hurt the lillian goals.
2) they would be the easiest to convert and probably fast track into the nun program (conveniently donating their worldly goods to the temple in the process)
3) If the woman has a boy converting him and giving him the care the woman did not would make him one of the devotees that stay with the temple long after he hits puberty. And since he already "knows his place", and knows how to fuck would be a welcomed addition.
4) A woman who was doing this amd didn't really know what she was doing, and without the protection of the temple, might bring unwanted attention to the subject of fempeds which is bad for everybody.
In their matriarchal way I'd see them saying that this counter-revolutionary woman is the victim of our patriarchal society. That she is "alone and scared. She knows she needs to control boys but doesn't know there is a better way." or "Because of this woman's jehovian upbringing she has turned a beautiful act into a perverted one. This is why jehovian ideals must be overthrown."
It isn't so much that they would really give a shit about the reality. It would just be a convenient way to solve several problems. I'm thinking a "this is what she is doing and this is why it is wrong." The harm reduction aspect would just be an easy way to sell it to the other member to make them feel good about this particular type of conversion. Much like how born again feel really good when they convert someone who drinks and gambles.
No.3335
Snegurochka and Tsarina Grimoire and CD Cover
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.md/2016/01/snegurochka-and-tsarina-grimoire-and-cd_6.html
>>3308
It would certainly be an interesting spin on the whole thing, and I've been meaning to make another BDSM pamphlet for a while now. Everyone hates them, since they're so dark, but there's a lot of content, and it really does fit the themes. A story like this would be a really interesting way to frame something like that, as well as add to the overall storyline of the Lilians, and where they draw their lines. What could be 'too far' for a group that has built itself on the concept of female domination, and pedophilia?
That's always been something that I've found really interesting, and it's something that I like playing with. There's this idea that since pedophilia is bad, that means all pedos are violent monsters. It isn't the case, and while they really are all bad, some are substantially worse than others.
No.3517
>>3494
>>3507
See this is what I like to see some back to basics storytelling.
You have a tendency to over extend what you believe is obvious to the audience. The Sailor Sluts story was a perfect example of that. From a storytelling perspective it is sometimes like dropped into the middle of a conversation that you can only hear half of. Which is bad. You know how it is really irritating when someone is talking on their phone in public? This is why, we as people, hate not knowing the other half of the conversation. It isn't entirely your fault this is a difficult medium to tell the stories you want they way you want to.
But it is stuff like this that reminds me that you have real talent and creativity. Keep trying to do more stuff like this,where we know who is talking or at the very least we know who it's written for.
No.3519
Midnight Triplets CD Cover
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.md/2016/02/midnight-triplets-cd-cover_5.html
>>3517
Heh, I experiment a lot, and Sailor Sluts is/was an example of that. In retrospect, I probably could have condensed Sailor Sluts down to the Anti-Sextreme posters, and then the Sextreme video ad (which I still haven't done), and it would have been really tight, and flowed really well. At the end of the day, the Sailor Sluts storyline is basically just, "Sextreme was too sextreme, and so the Swedes banned it". That didn't really need 6 sets of interviews and like 7 or 8 separate video ads. Buuut, when I see a set that I like, I want to use it all, and hopefully that doesn't show it's face in the SuperSoft narratives.
I know what you mean about the Sailor Sluts story being like a conversation you're only hearing half of. I think that's due to the interview format, and the fact that I tried to have the girls put out extrapolations through their answers, and maybe it worked, and maybe it didn't. It was an experiment, though. Now I know that interviews aren't the best way to present a linear story. Or at the very least, it can't be done the way that I did it. Or at the very least, I need to actually bother to do the intros, before I start doing everything else.
No.3521
>>3519
Well once again I know you have these ideas of very detailed stories about different groups around the world reacting to situations.
I'm not being a dick here but one of my pet peeves for reading any story is when a problem in narrative can be fixed with one or two line of dialogue. And because the visuals are at a minimal it's something that you have to keep in mind.
Interviews are actually a great way to convey information but you just have to assume that the audience has no idea what you are talking about. Read an interview in Playboy or Rolling Stone. The intro that is only a few lines explains the very basics of the person they are interviewing even when interviewing someone very famous. Like "Bob Dylan is no stranger to musical experimentation. After 50 years in the recording industry he has played music with everyone from the Rolling Stones to the Wu-tang clan. Now he has a new album getting back to his roots as the fol artist he started as."
From those two sentences we have the absolute basics of what we need to know to start the interview. The Sailor Sluts you would do something similar then just mention the controversy that is the reason for the interview.
It's easy and fun.
No.3522
>>3517
Look at Mr. Sociology major over here.
No.3533
Sailor Sluts Actress Intros 1
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.md/2016/02/sailor-sluts-actress-intros-1_8.html
>>3521
Thanks for this, I went and did the intros, and hopefully it helps with the 'one side of the phone conversation' issue. Part of the initial problem was that I tend to focus on writing what's fun to write first, and then moving onto what's less fun to write. This is why Lilian Slave Pricing continues to be unfinished. But when you do that, you can end up confusing people. Like here, I didn't actually do any sort of introduction, and for the serialization crowd (everyone reading this now), that's incredibly annoying and confusing. I need to keep that in mind, because I do tend to focus on the future exhentai readers, and the strangely massive group of Russians, Brazilians, and Middle Easterners who primarily consume this content through the omnibus, and on their phones.
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>>3030
Man it has been a Long time. I'll have to get back into the swing of things and read these
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Kinky Cowgirl CD Cover 2
http://lrlbtaisen.blogspot.md/2016/02/kinky-cowgirl-cd-cover-2-retrospective.html
>>3552
Yeah, I can really crank these things out when I'm on schedule. Best way to catch up is probably to download the omnibus and put it on a smartphone. The pages are kinda optimized for the small screen, and it really is a more enjoyable way to take it in.