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from what i've heard, this is literally the only bad egg, the rest of the new eu is decent.

i don't have a personal opinion since i haven't read any of the books, but the comics are crap and fuck with continuity worse than lucas did.

>>10102

The rest of the new EU is either okay or mostly mediocre, and this includes the disappointing new Battlefront game. But even if it is good, the rest of the new eu is basically irrelevant throwaway stories meant to sell comics. The other novels have also been pretty much bad or uninteresting. Just a bearable way to waste time. The Aftermath novels are the central part of the EU that are supposed to tell the story between the OT and the Sequel Trilogy. It's nothing but a fucking disgrace.

SPACE DIAPERS FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!

>>10108

what's funny is the new eu is basically turning into the old eu

games have no importance (so far, ps the mobile games are actually a lot better than the new battlefront), the books are held as the main portion of content and the comics are just doing whatever they want

it's clear to me now that despite disney's canon all being tied together, they still very much tier it like so

- movies

- books/shows

- comics

- games

is merchandising poetry even possible?

>>10111

Disney doesn't give two shits. All those bastards want is to make money. They'll give the right to write Star Wars stories and media to any moron, but they'll keep the comic rights exclusive to Marvel despite that those fucks haven't done decent work in years.

>>10111

Old eu was better than this shit.

>>10114

Without a doubt, but no one here will admit it since most only focus on the bad bits and inconsistencies. Even at its lowest, the worst the EU had was hippie vegans with decent writing skills, not betafied tumblrfags who can't write a mature novel that doesn't sound like fanfiction from their blogs, even if their lives depended on it

I got this for christmas, they must have sensed the disappointment because they quickly pointed out the gift receipt

Guys whats bad with these new novels? I havent read them i just want to know

>Herkily Jerkily

>>10121

can't we just pretend these are all different continuities? I mean the old EU still exists. George is done plying in the StarWars universe, and Disney's just a bunch of greedy jews.

We can pretty much just pretend its public domain at this point. Until disney sics their lawyers on us

>>10154

Here's a copy/paste from Amazon reviews

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'm a big fan of Star Wars books. I've read through a total of 85 novels including books in the old Expanded Universe (now called Legends) and in the new canon. Most I found extremely enjoyable reads (see below for a list of some favorites), and even the ones with the most implausible plot points (examples: The Crystal Star, Darksaber) I had no trouble finishing and still enjoyed parts of them.

This one, I could not finish. At first I thought I just needed to adjust to the author's style, but after slogging past halfway there was no improvement.

I couldn't find the characters likable or intriguing. They seemed to have simple motivations and would act on them with no subtlety at all. Overhear someone in your rebel-aligned group confess they had been an Imperial officer at Endor? Charge into the room and throttle them! Even non-original characters are affected. Every scene with Admiral Ackbar seems to be there so he can advise caution and worry about things being traps.

Every few pages I would hit something that completely smashed my suspension of disbelief causing me to have to look away from the page and take a break. Things like:

-An asteroid field setting which apparently was once a comet in the Outer Rim of the galaxy. This comet was on course to destroy multiple Core region worlds, until a large number of Jedi gave their lives and/or sanity breaking it apart with the Force to save the day. Does the author know what a comet is?

-Several of the main characters escaping from a mixed mob of stormtroopers and criminal gangsters in a bar alley. One arrives with a getaway hover bike and all but one fit on. The solution for the last character? Grab some chain, tie it to the body of an alien they had just shot, and surf along the street to freedom and safety.

-A main character's inner monologue is wondering why they have to be so involved with the Rebellion, and can't just be peaceful like the Bith couple they are watching on a nearby rooftop. Immediately a TIE flies overhead and the couple angrily wave fists and yell, futilely shooting blaster-fire at the fighter.

These kinds of facepalm-inducing plot points made it impossible to believe or stay immersed in the story. Between that and how simple-minded the characters were, it felt like I was listening to a tabletop roleplay session, where the GM and the players are all black-out drunk and I was stuck as the designated driver. Wookiepedia lists a factoid saying Wendig wrote this book in under 45 days, and it really, really shows.

>>10154

here's another copy/paste

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This book—what can I say? It is written differently. Differently than anything I have ever read. Why? Never seen so many short sentences. Very short. Super short. Choppy? Yes. Hard to concentrate? Yes. Hyphens? Oh—the hyphens. Never seen so many hyphens—in my entire life. His writing style? Hard to follow. Just like this review. So many short sentences. Likes all these I am writing. I can be a writer too. Obviously. This is how the whole book is. Many examples. The hyphens—did I mention all the hyphens?

Characters? I don’t really care about them. Who are they? I don’t know. I can’t follow. Names? Not sure—can’t tell. I know Wedge—that’s about it. Too bad. I love Star Wars. Been a Star Wars fan—forever. I love Star Wars. Then I heard about it—this book. A new canon—“Wow” I said, “A new book? A new hope for Star Wars.” Then—I read it. Not all—just some of it. The first chapter really—then I had to write a review—Wow. First review on Amazon—ever!

Then—I looked up. An hour passed—only one chapter read. To the fridge. Another beer. Gonna be a long night. Can I finish this—not sure. (The book I mean, not the beer—I can finish the beer). I will try—try hard. Maybe coffee? Yes. No more beer. Just coffee. Is the rest of this book like the first chapter? Not sure—probably. I need some pizza. Super short sentences—perhaps. I will find out—eventually. When? I am not sure—a month? A year? Random things placed here and there. Out of order—it seems.

What is good so far? The cover—the picture on the cover. Epic. Cool. Awesome. Would make a good poster. Maybe the rest is different—doubtful. Gonna give it a shot—soon. Would I recommend this book? Is Jar-Jar funny? Do you love short sentences? Lots of short sentences—and hyphens? If you love hyphens—this book is for you. Whoever invented hyphens—is gonna be a happy person—after reading this. Gonna give it another shot—don’t wanna give up too soon. May the force be with—me.

one last one, a classic

"The TIE wibbles and wobbles through the air, careening drunkenly across the Myrrann rooftops - it zigzags herkily-jerkily out of sight."

And that was the moment when my eyes started bleeding.

>>10167

this is what has kept me from picking up the book

i don't even want to download a pdf

>>10154

>Here's a line from the book.

>The TIE wibbles and wobbles through the air, careening drunkenly across the Myrrann rooftops - it zigzags herkily-jerkily out of sight

>Time to buy more space diapers

>Also of note is that the story is written in a very realistic style where everyone acts like a hipster and use words like trends and fads or speak like typical San Francisco dwellers or shits in Starbucks. Also when the book was panned, Wending threw a bitch fit and start pointing fingers left and right as he got triggered by critics and SW fans. Meanwhile his 13yo fans and tumblrinas flocked to his rescue and defended his tantrums while accusing anyone who hated his awful novel as bigots, anti-modernists or whatnot. Those few who actually praised the book only did it because Wendig included lesbos and an imperial fag and praised him for his inclusive bullshit despite his abhorrent writing style. But I guess politics over quality amiright? Anyway the entire novel doesn't feel like a Star Wars story at all, it basically written as though it were a Robot Chicken parody.

>If you're still not convinced here's a quote from a fag who shat on Wendig.

>I've been following the reviews on Amazon, and to say the least Wendig and his fans are spinning like crazy. There's very little "rage" (as the headline says), just lots of disappointed readers who've never been exposed to his eccentric and off-putting style until now. The rage is supplied by author and fans: they have come up with new excuse after new excuse for why Star Wars fans are awful people, starting with the tin-foil hat conspiracy about an "Alliance" of EU diehards who refuse to accept a different version. Read through the negative reviews, and you'll find instead readers who say that they have no problem letting go of the old EU, but that Wendig's is the worst SW book they've read. EVER. Second dodge, all SW fans who don't like his book are homophobes now. Once Wendig's fans were primed, though, EVERYBODY'S a homophobe. One reviewer on Amazon who identified himself as bi said he was surprised to find that he was supposedly an enemy of gays just because he panned the book.

>Then there's the suggestion by Wendig that the one-star reviews aren't legitimate, because they probably didn't really buy the book. That's simple to rebut: use Amazon's search filter to isolate "verified purchase" reviews only, and guess what? One-star reviews *still* run two-to-one against five-star reviews. When the "verified purchase" dodge didn't work, they tried making an issue of whether the reviewers had ever reviewed anything else (but it was found that a lot of the five-star reviews were first-time reviews).

>When these attacks failed to achieve the goal of making disappointed Star Wars fans shut up, Wendig and company started getting even more creative. More than one reader noted that Wendig's choppy style is so badly written that reading it makes you feel like you're having a seizure, Wendig's supporters tried to claim that the reviewer was making a joke about *epileptics*. However, it doesn't take much searching to find Wendig himself talking about bad writing causing *him* a "seizure" on his own blog, just a few months ago. Just the same, they are striving to find any word or nuance that can be twisted into an attack. And yet it's the Star Wars readers who are supposedly in a "rage".

>Wendig doesn't come off nearly so civil and gentlemanly on Twitter and his blog as he does in a friendly interview like this. He has been inciting hatred among his fans, and mocking Star Wars readers with something akin to the classic "ha ha got your money sucks to be you" attitude.

>It's not hard to see why Star Wars fans don't like Wendig's take. It's clear that he doesn't have as much respect for the source as he pretends. Even beyond his awful writing style, he comes up with stuff that would sound more at home in The Jetsons, like "space diapers". Instead of escapist adventure, he wants to make SW a mirror of the real world, so much so that when the imperial "cops" arrive in the first scene to take on a crowd pulling down a statue, his description of them sounds exactly like the LAPD, complete with red strobe lights. He retreads gags from the movie that were great – in the movies – but reuses them in disconcerting ways, suggesting that Han Solo "always says" fly casual, as if it's just some dumb catch phrase he repeats all the time (he's not Han Solo, he's Ace Rimmer), while Admiral Ackbar is going around worrying about traps.

>Even putting the SW issues aside, Wendig's experimental style is not a happy fit with a wider audience, and while his fans compare him to Hemingway, the SW readers describe the writing as grade school level. He speaks in short, verbless phrases, overuses colons and dashes, makes up verbs that don't need to be made up (some characters "quick-duck" behind a statue). His characters seem to simply take over the narration at will, in what seems like an excuse to *write* casual. It is the sort of bad writing that we're supposed to assume is rampant in indie books, but could never happen with a "real" book from a "real" publisher. Some of this might not be entirely Wendig's fault, because the book seems rushed and unedited. Typos abound, like a "hale storm", and one character "lunching" at another in a fight.

>Wendig fans are used to his writing and love it. But to everyone else, this is to novels what Plan 9 from Outer Space was to movies. And that's not hate, it's just that it's that bad.

>>10179

Yep. This Robot Chicken mashup adventure is supposed to be the New Thrawn… and shits like those on tumblr and Disney shills want him to make more… All is fucked.

>>10174

>>10175

>>10179

Apparently, this is what the customers want. Capitalism ensures that to maximize profits, you cater to the largest audience and the lowest common denominator.

Surely you're not against capitalism, anons?

>>10191

So we're the minority?

OPPRESSION INTENSIFIES

>>10192

Not if you're white. Minority = oppressionbux - privilege.

The only privilege we get is to be the fucking antagonist in every movie released since the shroud of Turin.

>>10199

> We're the fuckers who buy all that stupid shit.

Not anymore. Look at the box office numbers for Force awakens. "We" didn't do that. Capitalism is a race to the bottom once identity politics takes hold.

The sad thing is that I don't mind a good mix of races in movies or strong female characters or any of that shit. What I mind is shallow shoe-horning of Mary Sues who HAVE to be more competent than men at absolutely everything that matters and maybe have a "quirky" side for fun while the men get all the pathos. Except the hunky love-interest, of course. Also the evil guy, the puppeteer behind the throne… he's always a white male. And that lightsaber just *happened* to be a cross. What a coincidence.

It's crappy writing by people who want to shoe-horn their agenda into everything and we'll only get more of it because that's what the masses crave now.

>>10162

Thats what i do

I am planning to download and read this so I can judge, then again I wont buy anything related to the new canon because I dont feel the need to start over just because some greedy company want to. Only going to buy the few "Legends" novels that I haven't read and then I'm done with giving my money Disney.

>>10099

> despite the abysmal reception of his first novel

But only only racist homophobes hated it, the SW fanbase is actually very progressive. No true SW fan hated my book :^)

Oi, asswipes, you know how to fuckin deal with this fag? Not go for the new canon that Disney is spilling out.

Anyways there are two timelines, the good one without the hipster, sjw, and ebil space nazis, called "Legends" now by Disney, and one WITH hipsters, sjws, and ebil space nazis. The one made by Disney, promoted by Disney, with its only ulterior motive to suck cash from the retards that buy it, who coincidentally have *always* been SW fans for realsies, but havent read/played any EU content, half-remember the PR and say that it sucks because other people always have said it and love the OT because other people have always loved it.

So pull your pants up and love the REAL SW, you know, the one birthed out of Lucas and friends minds

>>10206

> with its only ulterior motive to suck cash

Oh you adorably naive summer child.

>>10208

Well its not like theyre doing it to bring forth a bigger and better SW

>>10201

That scene where she fucking stabilized Han Solo's own ship while leaving him dumbfounded pissed me off beyond all reason.

>>10204

>Only going to buy the few "Legends" novels that I haven't read and then I'm done with giving my money Disney.

let me save you some cash, post a list of the legends novels you want to read and i can upload them all here in pdf, i think. depends if there's a file size limit.

if not, have everything http://www.filedropper.com/swbooks

>>10206

yeah, I'm pretty much ignoring Disney's contributions… minus Rebels. I happen to enjoy that one.

>>10230

You are doing the Emperor's work here Tooper

>>10329

only the best for the best

seriously, in all my years of internetting, this board and bffc are the only sw sites i've gone to where i didn't instantly hate everyone.

Does anybody have that ranting excerpt of his where he says anyone who didn't like his novel was a misogynistic monster who hates gays and progressiveness and were the Evil Empire?

>>10347

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.themarysue.com/naboo-hoo-hoo/

>>10350

Thanks. I didn't want to hunt for it myself.

>>10108

>space diapers

what?

>>10350

I dont get it, he only says that people who think gay is immoral will get a fat black cock down their throats, not that all of the people that say that his books are shit will

>>10368

>>10368

>will get a fat black cock down their throats

Pretty ironic considering that his tweets indicate that he would love to have a grotesque king kong-size sausage shoved down his throat like a cum dumpster. The man acts like a fucking 13yo girl.

Anyway he did more than one interview. Go look for it you lazy fuck. Each one involves him calling his critics bigots or a conspiracy of people out to get him.

>>10361

They also use the 'Ackbar fears traps' meme where he keeps yelling "Its a trap" while being paranoid along with making several other characters act like like teenaged hipsters. The dialogue is fucking grade school and you could swear this is a spinoff of the shitty family guy parody with the way the story and humor play out.

>>10369

Did he even watch the original trilogy, or did he just take his inspiration for Ackbar from Robot Chicken?

>>10385

He probably only saw the movie as kid but its likely that everything he knows comes from parodies like the Robot Chicken/Family guy ones, because that's what this novel feels like, a fucking parody.

>>10368

he's using race as a cover for how bad the book is, it seems, since he doesn't realize that it's his shitty writing that's the problem, not the gay non-white pc female characters and shit in the book.

>>10409

Reminder that his characters are just shit PC versions of old characters >>10145

>>10409

Technically they are since he basically writes them to be as token as possible while one repeats the fact that she has a wife. This isn't fucking Kotor. The guy literally threw in heroic gays and didn't even know how to write them at all without coming off as SJW fanfiction rather than an actual story and most only did nothing but remind the viewer how gay they were in the most unsubtle way possible. In an interview he claims that he doesn't want the gayness to be their defining trait but then goes on to say that its their key quality. Pure doublethink right there.

>>10114

RIP Darth Bane Trilogy

Anyone ready for EA to announce more KOTOR games in the next few years?

>>10425

It won't happen unless its a completely shitty new reboot of Kotor and what they did to Battlefront was unforgivable. Embed related, what we could've had.

>>10425

No. With current Bioware no. Though I do feel like they will do this at a shameless attempt at nostalgia much like Battlefront and that their current franchises such as Dragon Age and Mass Effect are on death row.

>>10444

nice trips, but biojew's audience eats their shit up with the more pandering they add, i recall seeing a witcher v dragon age v tes debate and someone actually wrote geralt as "being too manly" for his taste.

i have some slight hope for the next cuck effect since frostbite 3 and better gameplay, but the story will surely be dog shit.

>>10440

>>10425

it could theoretically happen, but bioware did themselves in by writing 300 years of lore from kotor 2 to swtor, there would be retcons aplenty for certain.

that being said i honestly would love for an updated remake of kotor, only i know it would get filled with sjw garbage so i'd rather it didn't happen.

>>10492

because people like you and i who have imaginations don't have the proper connections to those jobs

>>10492

Dimestore trash novels and comicbooks have a really low bar of entry. So long as you can string a couple sentences together and tout the right bullshit to your higher ups you can get a job working on pretty much any licensed product in the world.

>>10492

>Hugs and kisses

>Big hugs and kisses for all of my fans

It's like the end result of someone who was completely raised by Barney and Sesame Street while being deprived of any strict parenting.

>>10479

>Still having hope for the next Mass Effect

If only I could share your optimism. Mine's long been dead.

Jews man. Not even once

>>10908

Luke could die all he wants, but the station blew up ten minutes later anyway

>>10920

>It had hell of a contibution: If Tarkin actually took the Rebel threat seriously when they attacked the Death Star, they would have won.

fun thing about that, tarkin had originally planned to evacuate, but some ding-dong imperial (most likely a rebel intruder on a suicide mission) reinforced that the death star couldn't possibly be blown up, which it couldn't because nobody accounted for jedi.

also, the emperor had not planned to give the second death star away, it was xizor's idea.

>>10974

Nope. Tarkin was anal retentive.

> Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances!

It was Chief Bast who tipped him on the danger.

>also, the emperor had not planned to give the second death star away, it was xizor's idea.

Palpatine was a moron. His "entire legion of best troops" where a fucking joke. His personal order to the fleet not firing on the rebels retarded. Just because he wanted a new fuck toy, i mean an apprentice, he came up with that stupid idea of using only the superlaser to destroy the rebel fleet.

>>10987

yes i know he was tipped about it, but in the radio drama (which is the fucking script of the movie plus a lot more extra shit that was cut out of the final drafts but are still essentially canon) he actually considers leaving the station.

tbh i forgot the name of the cuck that told him the stuff and just made up a quick backstory for him.

>>10175

>his fans compare him to Hemingway

Hemingway was a shitty unskilled writer. Having his writing style compared to that crap should have been a wake up call for Wendig.