/starwars/ - Star Wars

>censoring yourself on the internet

>by far the worst star wars film, BY FAR

>Saying this when Episode 1 and 2 exist

>Saying this when the Holiday Special exists

How to spot someone trying way too hard to fit in/be as non-normie as possible.

>>10520

sage goes in all fields, friend. don't bump stupid threads like this.

>>10503

I find it insane how ugly Kylo, Rey, and Oogaboogyega are in comparison to the leads in the OT and PT.

Phantom Menace was more original than TFA.

Darth Maul destroys Kylo Ren

>>10549

Funny thing is, its still better and more memorable than what we got with TFA

>>10520

The Holiday Special is actually pretty damn good if you watch one of the edited versions online which remove all the weird crap. The Bea Arthur scene is still a highlight for me…

>>10557

>>10522

This.

>>10549

>meaningless fight scene

tested Obiwan by pushing him to use anger. Obiwan resisted and calmed down and came back to the light

double side lightsaber is still the most interesting fight to date.

killed Qui Gon and set the path to become a force ghost

>just trying to be edgy and different.

you mean like kylo ren?

>>10601

> Hamill career died with star wars

Hamill does amazing work as Joker

>>10604

the books expanded on Maul as well. Dude was nothing but a savage remorseless beast.

Also Ray Park is a total bro at conventions, nicest dude you'll ever meet.

>>10605

yeah voice acting

>>10606

Can confirm, guy is one of the nicer dudes I've met (next to Stan Lee and Chris Pratt both of which were unbelievably good guys to my little sister)

>>10608

whats wrong with voice acting?

>>10608

>>10605

>>10622

>>10604

>>10601

hamill is your classical b-grade sci-fi actor

>>10629

and THE voice of the best incarnation of the joker

>There are people here who think that TFA is a ok movie.

>And they think that it is better than the prequels

Disgusting

>>10638

>There are people here who think that TFA is a ok movie.

because thats all it is. just ok

>>10557

memorable is they key word here. No one is going to remember anything about TFA in a year. I mean of course we will because we're autists like that, but if any of you ask a friend, family member or co-worker about the movie in 12 months, they'll struggle to find something. Whereas any other movie Prequel or Original, they'll be able to say something no problem because good or bad they were original and memorable. This safe treading rehash isn't.

>>10601

Your stupid ass hasn't played Wing Commander then. Or seen his extensive list of nice voice over credits.

>>10674

i smell the buttered rolls of a fat tumblrina

you're the real retard here, defending a movie thats been bashed to hell by the fans of the original saga and defended by those too young or simply too stupid to grasp what star wars should have been about.

yeah keep talking. i want to hear your stupid ideas that will make star wars great again.

>>10674

>shilling this hard

>>10674

… are you a gril or something?

ps adam driver is ugly as fuck, they went ham on making him look somewhat normal for the movie.

>>10685

>Are you replying to me multiple times? Your posts bear striking resemblance to the anon I replied to just a few moments ago.

as a matter of fact, i am not the anon you are looking for (hue.jpg)

>>10679

>defending a movie thats been bashed to hell by the fans of the original saga and defended by those too young or simply too stupid to grasp what star wars should have been about.

Speak for yourself. I love the original trilogy, and I love this movie. I'd say it's better than VI. I don't get this notion that you can be 'too young' to get what Star Wars is about. That's like saying older fans are just nostalgic and therefore can't like anything new. Star Wars was a return to simple, fun adventure in a time which gritty, edgy films started to take over the market. It's based on silly adventure serials of the 30s and 40s. To pretend there's some deep something young people just can't get is bullshit, and further evidence of people buying into the 'legacy' of Star Wars. It's just a dumb space movie saga. They just have to steer clear of being boring or TOO stupid, which is a problem the prequels had.

Yes there are problems with VII, and you can critique it all you want, but when you get so offended because someone liked something you didn't that you go around saying "YOU'RE NOT A REAL FAN, FAGGOT" and crying "SHILL!" don't be surprised when people get annoyed with your autism and don't take your opinions seriously.

>>10705

nobody will believe you with that trashy attitude.

stop thinking you can convince people force awakens is the superior movie.

reconsider the actions that have led you into a lifetime of misery that is to be a marketing slave for disney.

there is no such thing as nostalgia. whether or not you are passionate about something, i see jack shit in your post that would make me consider that you are a collector of star wars memorabilia and have a shallow understanding of its themes, characters, devices, star fighters, and general setting.

your friends probably dont even trust you in real life homo.

>>10503

its true that it wasnt the best movie ever or the best SW story but saying that is was the `worst movie BY FAR` is so retarded that you must only be a rabid-prequel fan to say such a thing.

>>10705

> I'd say it's better than VI

opinions disregarded

>>10705

>4.2 better than any of the OT

YOU'RE NOT A REAL FAN, FAGGOT SHILL

>>10706

>reconsider the actions that have led you into a lifetime of misery that is to be a marketing slave for disney.

lol

>there is no such thing as nostalgia.

Nice job, missing the point.

>have a shallow understanding of its themes, characters, devices, star fighters, and general setting.

The Hero's Journey and early 20th century adventure serials are so hard to understand, you're right. 3:<

>>10503

>1.The bad guy is ugly as shit.. I liked him until he took off his mask and started talking. sorry I don't have anything against ugly people, but I think starring roles in blockbuster hits shouldn't be that ****ing ugly. This bad guy also reeked of incapability.

Actually, judging by what many are speculating; He'll end up being the jedi by the end. If that's the case, he's perfect for the role. A wafer thin, ugly ass geek. Which is almost exactly the same as the 25 million wafer thin, ugly ass fanboy geeks. He will be Star Wars fans incarnate.

>. Speaking of ugly incapable guys, the black guy lol…. literally a waste of a character, extremely unlikable. trying to set up some interracial shit between him and the unstoppable 100 pound super feminist who beat the Sith in her first attempt holding a lightsaber…lol

I hate niggers, and he was one of the only good characters in the movie. He was a lying, incompetent dindu who at least twice got called out on his niggerdom and had to admit he just wanted help for his on selfish means. Moreover, it seems more like they're setting up a gay romance between the nog and benaerjew. Mary Sue friend zoned him. She may be a boyish, ayylmao looking white girl, but at least I don't have to sit though watching an ape have his way with a boyish ayylmao looking white girl.

>They killed off the only good character in the entire movie.. i could live with this if other add-on characters were there to pick up the slack in the next movies, but ***…. Han Solo literally carried the movie. All of the new characters blow. The ugly incompetant bad guy, the black guy, the unstoppable female superhero. We better hope that Luke gets a major role in the next movie training the girl and confessing that "I am your father"before they inevitably kill him off and he "becomes one with the force".

hopefully they don't make Luke "the one who is to bring balance to the force" Skywalker have fucking kids since it's against the Jedi code and all. I want Luke to die too, so that the empire actually looks like proper bad ass motherfuckers that kill great warriors and slaughter villages of walk rugs and tentacle-heads. Also so that the stroy can progress past "muh Vader", for better or for worse.

> luke only gets 30 seconds of airtime right at the end. lol nuff said. guess hes just been picking his *** for 30 years.

Because everyone wanted to see a fat 60 year old man run around kicking ass, right? That might be on par with CGI yoda dominating everything in term of being super retarded. Luke is fucking old as shit, he should be relegated to Obi-wan status at this point.

>5. almost all of it is just copycat from episode IV.

no one is debating that. It was still better than senate meeting and trade agreements.

The saving grace for this paint by numbers, safe and easy movie would be the feminist superhero turning sith, the Empire CRUSHING the faggot antifas and the ooga booga being a pole smoker, if only because he was telling people to fuck off about this being more forced race-mixing propaganda.

Other wise, this movie is about lazer gun fights in space. Try to have fun every once in awhile. If you didn't mark out for the stormtroopers massacring that village at the beginning, you are a soft faggot.

sage because you talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.

>>10617

Ray Park's first involvement with a convention was to cancel his appearance because his publicist told him it was full of nerds, for has-been celebs and would be bad for his career. The fan reaction to that news was so venomous I wonder how he ever got back into the con scene.

>>10601

Fisher and Ford are carcasses, you see it

Hamill wasn't looking great in 2014 either, but he TSUJ'd himself back in 2015.

At least he tries

Harisson will fuck everything up if he is asked to appear in a new star wars movie

>>11295

what an asshole

>>11295

considering he also plays toad and snake eyes, i think he's just as much of a nerd.

>>10639

>because thats all it is. just ok

I wouldn't even wipe my ass with it. It isn't a movie, it is a propaganda flick created to spew SJW crap all over the place. Only good thing about the movie was BB-8.

I loved the movie, anon. I also thought Kylo Ren was pretty cool. Sorry.

>>10705

No, "Phantom menace" might have been a crappy movie – but at least it tried to be interesting. It wasn't this SJW festering pile of shit, trying to show down feminism and ect down our throats while having absolutely no redeeming script at all.

Yes, Phantom Menace had some terrible dialogue and CGI – but you can go back and change CGI, you can re-dub scenes (especially those down in CGI) and you can remove some of the most retarded aspects of the movie. Force Awakens however is salvageable though.

If you removes everything that was bad about Force Awakens and only kept what was good… you would have been left with around 10-20 minutes of BB-8 looking cute.

That is how bad FA is.

>>10753

> He'll end up being the jedi by the end

After murdering your father and classmates its hard to be redeemed.

>>11505

anakin murdered countless jedi

he was redeemed

not saying it will happen to kylo ren, in fact i want him to die either by snoke's hand, or while still being a bad guy.

>>11507

>>11512

Take a second and remember who Kylo killed too. He killed Han, who's been a beloved character for almost 40 years. It'd be a very hard sell to the general public to get them to forgive him for that.

Also the whole "murdering his father in cold blood" thing; Vader killed Obi-Wan in battle, Kylo straight up murdered Han without provocation.

>>11513

Both Obi-Wan & Han were killed with very few witnesses present.

I doubt anyone in the Empire would go blabbering about seeing Vader striking down some guy wielding a light sabre to anyone on the outside.

Outside the Rebel Alliance, everyone had been forced to drink the Imperial kool-aid, and probably believed that the Jedi Order had tried to overthrow the Republic.

I haven't seen TFA, but from what I've heard, they didn't show Han being given any memorial ceremony or funeral – Leia goes to comfort Mary Sue, and walks past Chewie.

Hadn't Han even quit the Rebels/Resistance to become a smuggler again in TFA?

>>11512

this, even if he killed the emperor and survived he would have to go into exile or some shit, not go on merry adventures with his son and friends

>>11515

When I meant the "general public" I meant movie audiences, I should've specified. The general audience of the movie won't forgive him for killing Han.

I know Benposting is something of a meme, but it makes a lot of sense why ObiWan withheld so much information. If he told Luke about how Anakin genocided a load of Jedi and basically did the Star Wars equivalent of Sandy Hook, Luke (and the audience especially) would have a much harder time accepting Vader's redemption, because as some have pointed out, a lot of what he does in RoTS is pretty much unforgivable.

>>11507

I say death by JarJar would be the best way to kill of emo sith jr.

>>10503

apparently there was some more scenes filmed with Luke but JJ was like "fuck it I want this all cut out".

There is about an extra 30 minutes that JJ cut out from this film.. this makes me absolutey pissed because one of the main problems I had with this film was the PACING!! It was terrible and all the deleted scenes I am sure would have fixed that.

But JJ must seem to be in a mind frame where he thinks people will get bored of an Avatar-like length film.

>>10503

another one of the main problems with this film was JJ's decision to start the movie right in the middle of all chaos.

As one fan stated: it SHOULD have begun with Luke, Leia and Han all together with the world at peace. Anyone who has been to filmmaking school knows a script has an Act 1, Act 2 and Act 3 almost all the time.

Act 1 is when the world is either at peace or that everything seems good until a catastrophe occurs which brings forth Act 2 and the character's struggle.

We SHOULD have seen Luke train Kylo Ren before he became a Sith, instead of all of this being just a backstory later on in the movie.

After Kylo kills all Luke's apprentices (which would have been an amazing scene to see on film as suddenly this good guy who you think is all good due to all evil being destroyed.. SUDDENLY does the unthinkable and slaughters all innocence).

All of this could happen in only the first 20 minutes of the film. And then you can cut to a "10 years later" or something. No Luke would not have been in hiding for 30 + years after Ep 6 which would be so moronic.

JJ could have left Snoke still as a mysterious figure and so during the first 20 minutes of this movie, we follow Luke training Kylo etc when suddenly "something" seems to affect Kylo as he hears voices in his head.

Later on in the film we learn it is Snoke whilst during those 10 years or so after Kylo slaughtered the Jedi that Luke were training; Snoke picked him up and trained him to the dark side.

The opening scene with Jakku will now occur 20 or so minutes into the film; an opener for Act 2.

Now THIS is the film that I would have loved to see.

>>11558

forgive my bad English pronunciation.

Anyway: this is how the Force Awakens should have been written. Explaining the whole of Luke training Kylo Ren as a backstory is just creating ideas for another entire movie to be made that would act as a "prequel".

UNLESS of course Episode 8 will focus heavily on flashbacks and all of this will be explained. Still.. I would rather have seen this New Trilogy in order rather than it being explained in flashbacks.

First of all: WHICH character are we seeing the world through as a POV? It cannot be Rey because we know nothing about Rey's life on Jakku and how much knowledge she knew about the force etc if you get what I mean: she says to Finn "I thought Luke was only a myth" YET it is never explained to the audience HOW MUCH KNOWLEDGE she knew about the force and about Luke, Han Solo etc. WHERE did she hear these supposed "myths" from? WHO told her about them??

This movie is too confusing and the reason we all call Rey a Mary Sue is because the direction and writing of this film is absolutely terrible!

We know nothing about Rey apart that she has the force.

I see it as a big "Fuck You" to the fans for Disney making us wait 2 years for Episode 8 where almost certainly all our questions will be answered.. but WHY make us wait that long when with better script writing the Mary-Sue argument would not have begun!

Unless JJ gets off to reading internet arguments because he did not bother at all with writing a solid first parter story.

>>10503

Tbh, i like kylo ren

i hate the new wookie

>>10503

>disliking the bad guy for being ugly

>not for being such a whiny faggot

>>10557

and besides, i knew a grill who thought he was hot as fuck

>>10674

>probably only clashed sabers with another person a couple times

he murdered his entire jedi class, people with the same amount of training he had, and then he gets beat by some random girl holding a saber for the first time?

>>11579

George Lucas got the art department to put some grey hair make up on Mcgreggor for Revenge of the Sith YET JJ left Chewbacca with the same young looking colorful hair..

I know wookies live a long life but come on this is 30 years later and Han is old WHY don't you put some grey hair around chewy at least?

>>11585

why the fuck couldn't JJ just START Episode 7 during the Jedi Class training with Luke and let us see Kylo Ren become evil instead of this being in backstory chatter..

I HOPE we see a lot of flashbacks to these scenes. And then I want someone to make a fanedit with the flashbacks becoming Act 1 of Force Awakens and can follow the story in proper order.

If Episode 8 hardly has any flashbacks then JJ made Episode 7 like as if he is waiting for a prequel to be made.. which i can predict that Disney will probably make a prequel with Luke as Jedi trainer. meh

>>11588

because for a wookiee, chewbacca was considered both young and short

>>11594

eh fair enough. Is just weird seeing a colorful Chewy next to a grey haired aging Han.

>>11505

But anon, even after killing your own father, forsaking everything about your past and almost literally cutting it's heart out, you can still be redeemed!

It was the space Nazi's fault. They brainwashed poor Kylo. He spent far to much time with mean ol' admiral blue eyes and that 9 foot 11 inch tall blond "captain".

Clearly all he needs is some sort of fun camp, to reeducate him. Given time, he might grow to love the howling rug next door, or the tentacle-head up the street. Hell, maybe he'll be so moved by us forgiving his sins, he can learn to love sharing his lands with, dirty, disgusting, sneaky

SANDPEOPLE

use the force, goy. The force of diversity :^)

>>11606

>the howling rug next door

heard u were talkin shit bout chewie like i wouldn't find out

>>11642

Take your disgusting furry and go back to Kashyyyk, faggot. The only good Ayy, is a dead Ayy.

Gas the Rebels, Star Wars now

>>10705

>That's like saying older fans are just nostalgic and therefore can't like anything new. Star Wars

Apparently thats what TFA was all about

>>11591

You are talking "Black Box" Abrams here who cannot into scripting if his life depended on it.

>>11588

I was calling the nigger a wookie…..

>being so wrong and so stupid on the internet

how shocking