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don't worry anon, we're all annoyed by it as well.

sadly, there are some in-universe explanations for everything

- the new republic didn't take the first order as a serious threat, since starkiller base was a secret, so leia had a hard time getting supplies to the resistance, hence only x-wings

- (this isn't confirmed, just my speculation) the first order put their resources into two things: manpower and starkiller base. this lead to them only having tie fighters.

- the whole purpose of the movie was to ignite nostalgia for the old films (lol fuck the prequels, rite guis?) and make money. guaranteed, we will see the return of a-wings, y-wings and b-wings as well, god forbid we get anything original.

>>11744

It's pissed us off no end anon.

Honestly Episode 7 should have been a recreation of the intro space battle to Episode 3, except of a Venator it's an Imperial II you see, and it's burning. Queue a Battle over Coruscant of the New Republic finally taking the system and roll film from there.

>>11743

There were concepts for new fighters but JJ nixed them because he wanted to be ANH 2.0.

Though of course even ANH had the Y-Wings.

>>11772

Y-Wings are best starfighter.

>>11772

ANH also had the TIE advanced

The lack of diverse spacecraft in The Farce Awakens is due to the retconning that is going on in the child show Rebels: A wings are the simplest, crappiest star fighters (hence the A). When in the above show A wings aren't cutting it anymore, there's a whole episode about the B wing. So, the people in charge of TFA thought that the X wing is the paragon of rebel spacecraft, so the resistance adopts only those.

Clearly, this contradicts ROTJ, as it would be dumb to bring old fighters to the most important battle.

Source: rebels second season

>Force Awakens is all about "Muh diversity"

>No diversity in ships

Force Awakens is racist.

>>11772

>>11782

>>11784

And even if they couldn't get Y-Wings or the other TIE models, what the hell happened to the old T-65 X-Wings or the Z-95s that came before it? Why and how was it easier to get these new T-70s and not anything that's been around since the Clone Wars?

>>11790

The A-Wings are treated in Rebels like they're treated in the new Battlefront; sluggish, uninspiring and handles worse than the Y-Wings did in the Rogue Squadron games.

>B-Wing episode

Jesus fucking Christ I'm still not over that insulting fuckfest.

>>11841

apparently the T-70s are old models by the time of TFA, the new republic uses like T-85s or something.

and to be fair (i haven't seen the rebels episodes), the a-wing didn't have much glory in the battle of endor, most of the pilots we saw in them ended up dying. there was a scene of b-wings fucking shit up that was cut but is still canon.

>>11844

That's cause the A-Wings were the fastest starships that rivaled the TIE Interceptors. The A-Wings were interceptor based starfighters themselves and their speed compensates the lack of armor.

Star Wars Rebels just slapped the A-Wings in the face.

>>11844

>>11845

>and the cramped cockpit that prevented larger pilots from flying the A-wing.

Maybe Disney nerfed the A-Wing because someone got butthurt over the fatshaming cockpit

Anyway the way I understood it was that that the A-Wing was basically 2 engines with a frame and cockpit built around it. It could go fast but couldn't take a hit. That's why most A Wings in Jedi were vaporised instantly when they were shot as opposed to spinning then exploding or spinning then crashing (the obvious exception being Arvel and the Executor)

But Rebels A-Wings have nothing. They glide like bricks and get shot to pieces by anything that looks at them funny. The only way they can save this if they retconned these models into actually being R-22 Spearheads since those were referred to as A-Wings and did see action before Yavin in the old canon.

What were the cut B-Wing scenes? All I could find were cut footage of pilot extras of A-Wings and B-Wings. From their portrayal in Rogue Squadron, they're like some kind of medium between the X and Y Wings but they have enough drawbacks that keep you from cheesing missions like you did with V-Wings w/ homing cluster missiles in the first game.

>>11848

Now that I think about it, most of the A-Wing's reputation for being agile (maneuvering agile, we already know it goes fast) is the way it's portrayed in games for balancing purposes. Real interceptors are usually meant to pursue and intercept certain types of enemy targets, like bombers. They go fast so they can reach the target, strike the target, then speed off before they take return fire. They usually don't have the armament or maneuverability to dogfight fighters, like the MiG 25 and MiG 31. A-Wings in Jedi seemed to be in a tight spot early on due to the fact the Rebels were ambushed. That's why most of them were seen being shot down by TIEs. But when it came to take on the Imperial fleet, they were able shine by striking precious targets like the Executor's shield generators and fly away from AA fire. Also remember in some scenes the X-Wing showed more agility than the A-Wing when Wedge or some other pilot shook off a pursuing TIE by making a tight turn away from an MC80 and causing the TIE to slam into ship's hull.

That being said. If Rebels is portraying A-Wings as fast ships that make poor dogfighters, are they unable to get Z-95s or any Clone Wars era ship that would make a better dogfighter or they just so stupid that they use Interceptors as escorts and diplomatic envoys?

>>11871

the falcon is on par with the interceptor, it easily outruns standard tie fighters.

>>11879

BUT IT MADE THE KESSEL RUN IN UNDER 12 PARSECS!

>>11882

BUT MUH PARSECS ARE DISTANCE, NOT TIME

>>11879

Tell that to ILM then when they made the chart.

>>11883

>>11882

that's because the falcon simply went through more of a straight line than the normal kessel run consisted of, which also meant getting close to a black hole.

>>11884

ILM? i assume you mean lucasfilm. how old is that chart, it's clearly been ret-conned to some extent by now.

>>11883

I can't believe you took me seriously.

>>11891

Can't believe they actually survived that. hah

>>11891

It's the chart ILM used when making Return of the Jedi.

>>11907

right, it's clearly not entirely accurate.

>>11790

By that logic though, shouldn't the Y-Wing be better than the X-Wing?

>>12156

>Inb4 Y-Wings 1vs1 Eclipse Star Destroyers.

>>12156

I didn't say they were doing a logical retconning.

>>12158

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