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 No.1213

How will Lucas be remembered when he's six feet underground? As a talentless hack who eventually ruined everything he ever created, or as the visionary rebel director he was once known as?

I want to believe that he will be remembered for the good moreso than the bad. Sure he was making stinkers (Howard the Duck) even at the height of his career, but I think the combined legacy of Star Wars, American Graffiti and Willow are enough to redeem him.

His greatest contribution to film will always be his insistence on using, often popularizing, the cutting edge of special effects, from his fierce defense of practical effects in the 70s/80s to his groundbreaking use of CGI. And while the poor aging of computer graphics makes it easy to dismiss the prequels as "all CGI," and worse off for it, people forget that the prequels had lots of cool-ass expensive practical sets/effects of their own.

 No.1214

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>Wow. Amazing CGI. Truly special. Has aged well.
Bullshit. When the angels of death come a calling for him, he'll likely be remembered by the mainstream world as the guy who created Star Wars and nothing else (and sadly movies like American Graffiti and Willow will likely fall into obscurity), while the most devoted fans will continue arguing just like we are now for several generations to come on whether or not he should continue to be considered brilliant for his achievements as a young man or a flawed movie maker due to his "accomplishments" in his golden years. That is of course a nuclear war doesn't destroy the world before then.

 No.1235

>>1213

>people forget that the prequels had lots of cool-ass expensive practical sets/effects of their own.


i don't know how many times now i've made this a point to people who instantly spit on the prequels for the cgi argument

 No.1238

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>>1235
Some pretty impressive shit was made for those movies.

 No.1240

>>1238
thank you anon

 No.1247

>>1238
The muppets he used in TPM didn't look very good. The Yoda was terrible. I think the lighting and how they filmed it played a part but it really seems they didn't put the same effort in as the OT people did.

 No.1249

>>1213
>Sure he was making stinkers (Howard the Duck)

He wasn't the director, he was only the producer. His role with that movie was limited.

 No.1253

>>1247

i can agree to this, the cgi yoda replacement in tpm was a better decision, but yarael poof looked fine imo

 No.1509

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Where did it all go wrong?

 No.1511

>>1509

the prequels had stories, they weren't the greatest things on earth but had more going on than transformers or avatar. those films were literally made for special effects with joke plots/dialogue and nothing else.

 No.1512

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>>1509
>>1511
I can't say I agree with the semi common allegation that GL "used a story to tell special effects" with the prequels, that's stretching it, but it's undeniable that their stories are much, much weaker than those of the original trilogy. The OT captured a lot of people's imaginations with its exotic alien planets, intergalactic political drama, and shades of an ancient monastic order of warriors, but all of this stuff took a backseat to what was at its heart a very simplistic - and not at all new - story about a group of loveable, relateable underdogs struggling against a greater malevolent force.

Basically, the lore and the worldbuilding - the setting - was window dressing for the plot.

When the prequels came around, unfortunately, the opposite happened. We got to see a bunch of things we already knew about from the OT actually happen - the Clone Wars, life in the Republic with the Jedi as a police force, Anakin's fall from grace - and while there were some neat revelations in there for fans, it wasn't anything we couldn't have just filled in the blanks on ourselves in our personal headcanons. While it was neat to see the world of the Republic fleshed out and meet the Jedi Council, there was no real relateable story - no consistent arc, no protagonists, no underdogs - behind this lore / setting / windowdressing.

That's my beef with the prequels, they missed the point of Star Wars. The OT was about human characters and their interactions with one another, with a cool and well-thought out sci fi setting as a backdrop. The prequels showed us more of the setting including some things we hadn't seen before, but their stories felt as though they were just checklisted off of a list of things that had to be shown to lead in to the original trilogy. Nothing was done to make this story empathetic or relatable.

 No.7825

>>1511

The prequels especially the first star wars was a direct stolen rip off of Dune. if dune was made star wars would never have been made.


 No.7827

>>1509

This is kinda off topic but there is something fascinating to me about the way he talks..

Huh. Now that I think about it, his speech pattern kinda reminds me of Anakin's, in AotC.


 No.7834

>>1512

prequels are basically fan service dude. it was meant to show us how shit in the ot happened, and nothing else.

accept it.


 No.7845

He will be remembered fondly after Star Wars was butchered by Disney.


 No.7870

>>7845

Do you think that was his plan all along?


 No.8470

>>1214

> pic

This looks wayyyyy better in motion.




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