/starwars/ - Star Wars

>>7467

you know that's been a thing for decades, right?

this shit isn't new, you're just bitching about it because epin /pol/ memes

>>7461

This deal with the mouse just keeps getting worse and worse all the time.

>>7488

I think most of us are seeing this out-and-out acknowledgement of it, and having a knee-jerk reaction because of how prevalent SJWs have become.

>>7488

>racist

Speciesist you mean? I really don't see how being human-centric is a bad thing, that's how we rule the Earth IRL after all.

>>7495

Well, we are also not sharing the planet with other life-forms of equal intelligence.

>>7495

It sort of helps that we're the only ones capable of civilizations on Earth too. We killed the other fuckers with potential long before we had the luxury of philosophy and self reflection.

>>7498

Pshaw, we value human life regardless of intelligence.

>>7499

So how's that different from The New Order? Palpatine was just ahead of the curve, achieving galactic dominance before the aliums do is just like how we conquered Earth before any other form of life did. Sheev did nothing wrong.

>>7500

I said we killed the fuckers before the luxury of philosophy and self reflection. Full extermination, subjugation, and hyper specieism like this new canon is is even more cartoonishly evil than a super weapon that's able to destroy planets.

>>7500

Well, yes, we do value human life. But let's pose a hypothetical question.

Let's say we shared the planet with, say…Ithorians, or Twi'leks. That would change our dynamic, because we would be dealing with non-human creatures of equal intelligence to ourselves.

As it stands, you have human life, animal life, and plant/vegetable life, in descending orders of reasoning. Humans have the greatest capacity for intellectual reasoning on this planet, and we have no equals in that regard on Earth. So naturally, our systems of thought tend to be human-centric. Now, we do have schools of thought that say, as the most intelligent form of life on the planet, and those with the greatest capacity for reason, we have an obligation to less-intelligent or capable creatures.

But my point is, can we really be human-centric if we have no out-and-out equals?

>>7517

I disagree. If a creature has the intelligence and biological capacity to communicate and express thoughts and ideas (like a human does, not like the fucking Gorilla and it's mimicked sign language), then the rules change about how we should interact with them, if we are assuming an egalitarian stance.

Let's take this scenario for argument's sake: Let's say an alien ship with a living crew approaches from outside our solar system and lands on earth. How do we deal with them? Their technology clearly surpasses our own. Can you truthfully say humans are superior in this situation? Would it not be better to deal with them as equals, assuming they do not initiate aggressive actions?

ITT: OP channels an extreme faggot and attracts an army of similar beings.

The Empire were always "space racist" and human supremacists. Women never had a place in the Empire then either. We see how Tarkin and company treat Leia right off the bat in Episode IV.

Yes, this, at a glance does seem a step up from the usual "le oppression face" Empire with the misogynist addition, but its really nothing new.

Moral of the story: Stop looking so hard for things to whine about. I'm just as right-wing and intolerant to SJW bullshit as anyone else but you guys seriously sound like Dale Gribble when you search so hard for evidence of "da ebul J Jew ruinin muh universe" . I see it too, but in actual places.

For fuck's sake, you used a Wookieepedia article that looks like it came out of a trash bag. Half that shit isn't canon. Pro-tip: Learn to navigate the wiki before you post stupid shit.

tl;dr: OP and his compatriots are newfags and have no grasp on the SW universe at large. Go to bed, you have school in the morning.

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>>7467

Are you actually gonna try to say that the Empire didn't have an ideology to back up their regime? Do you just not know what the word ideology means?

>>7904

there was an ideology

it was "fuck all non-humans"

>>7775

No one liked Leia. Tarkin and Vader hated her because she was an asshole, not because she was a woman.

Women weren't represented in the Empire because SW wasn't (then) a PC Universe. Lucas was well aware of Roddenberry use of women and minorities in ST, and rejected it for good reason - women, in particular, don't belong in command positions… or really any position that's not on the bed or in the kitchen. Lucas knew this - we all knew this. Now we pretend it's not true.

I seem to recall much of the Empire's Human High Culture being pushed by people other than Palpatine, he largely just didn't give a shit. It seems it was a lot more casual, rather than actively pursued.

>>7914

actually, lucas stated back in 77 there were female imperials

just not in the important positions, of course.