No.8801
Unpopular opinions thread
I kinda like Jar Jar
No.8807
>>8801
i honestly have no qualms about jar jar
i think boba fett being a clone of jango is a cool thing, because he is the default template for all stormtroopers, but since they aren't trained mandalorians they obviously can't hit a fucking thing
No.8809
The holiday special was the only good star wars movie.
No.8812
I think that Star Wars itself is fucking disgustingly black and white. I especially hate that the Empire mass-produced and relied more on numbers than anything and that the rebels always had the better soldiers, weapons and schools yet I'm supposed to believe they were underdogs in any situation other than Hoth
[spoiler]Also I think Jango and Mace should have killed each other instead of Jango getting such a weak death right after killing a Jedi council member[ /spoiler]
No.8814
>>8812
Fuck, pardon my error.
No.8817
Clonetroopers are cooler (and more competent) than Stormtroopers.
No.8818
The prequels were really intelligent in that they introduced the concept that the Jedi were kind of shitty. They denied members any sort of life outside their order, kidnapped children at birth and were basically the Senate's police force (Outside the republic lol don't care)
That's probably why so many people hate the prequels, it introduced the idea that maybe their childhood icons were shitbag autistic monks. Never meet your heroes kids.
No.8824
>>8818
In the Clone Wars series Ahsoka was accused of a crime and the Republic put her on a "guilty until proven innocent" state. Then she runs away.
I also like how the Jedi Council digged their own graves.
No.8825
>>8818
>That's probably why so many people hate the prequels, it introduced the idea that maybe their childhood icons were shitbag autistic monks. Never meet your heroes kids.
I liked this concept too.
No.8833
I think Episode 1 is better than Episode 6
Most of Ep6 is useless trash, it's obvious they just wanted to get off with it
especially the beginning on Tatooine where they rescue Han Solo, I hate that part
No.8837
>>8818
>vader spreads the rumor that he killed anakin skywalker
disney goes fucking shit up again
also as to your post, this is why luke is my favorite. he's very much a gray jedi, although he definitely adheres to the light more, he clearly went a little dark in picking up that force choke move for himself and at the end of his second duel with vader where he goes full sperg rage mode.
No.8839
>>8807
>default storm trooper is Jango clone
Nah, Palpie saw to it that such nonsense would stop. They still created Jango clones until Kamino had its own rebellion. By the time the last batch came too old, Jango's genes no longer lived on - except in Boba and his family (hope Disney didn't make him gay or something).
No.8840
>>8817
>army specifically bred and built for combat
>better than conscripts
Yeah, well, no surprises there.
No.8842
>>8812
I think Boba should have killed Mace.
>>8837
I don't think that's a Disney comic, nor do I think Vader is implying he literally killed his former self.
I think RotJ is the best of the OT.
And ESB is the worst, and insanely overrated.
I am not really into SW outside of the games, thus all I know I skim off Wookieepedia and the aforementioned games.
The new Battlefront is fun and a good game, but it is lacking in content and does not live up to the Battlefront name.
No.8845
>>8839
there were still clones serving in the empire, the 501st for example.
>>8842
oh yeah it seems it's a dark horse comic, but vader is absolutely implying that he and anakin skywalker were two separate beings.
No.8852
the thrawn series is overrated. i can't stand the constant masturbation to it. yeah, it's good material but it really isn't the best of the entire eu.
No.8863
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I prefer the CIS over a clone army.
No.8868
I liked the Yuuzhan Vong as well as most of the New Jedi Order. I honestly felt they added something new and fresh to what had become a formulaic series. Nom Anor is one of my favorite if not my favorite Star Wars villian(s).
The common complaint that they, "didn't feel like they belonged in Star Wars" and that they "changed too much in the EU" I feel is unmerited.
Do people really want the same repetitive formulaic stories with unchanging cast of characters. I honestly wouldn't have cared if they chose to kill off Han or Leia off instead of Chewie. Star Wars is not cape comics. It's unfortunate if not slightly ironic how under the helm of Disney it's essentially going to become like them. Canning the EU we're gonna have to likely deal with 10+ years of stories again featuring Luke, Han and Leia etc. starting again right where RoTJ ended. At this point there all going to outlive their respective actors. I honestly just wish Lucas made episodes VII, VIII, and IX, ended the original casts stories then signed off the rights to Disney, thus creating a Lucas Era, and Disney Era. Cause that would have forced them to create new stories and characters instead of for the most part recycle and relabel a majority of the EU.
>>8852
I share this sentiment though I should add It's more I feel Zahn is overrated. In his later works(after the thrawn trilogy) I always felt he never really liked to acknowledge or work with a lot of the EU canon.
No.8869
You all do know that in the new timeline, with no Mara Jade or any lady Jedi, Luke Skywalker never, ever got laid. Ever.
No.8873
I'm not a fan of how the Emperor was portrayed from RoTJ and onward.
While I do enjoy the scenes with Luke, Vader, and the Emperor on DSII, I find it incredibly hard to believe that anybody would be loyal to a person like Palpatine.
No.8876
>>8868
This, Yhuuzan Vong were the shit
No.9026
I liked the Ewoks and thought they were cute.
Maybe I was just very young when I watched RotJ.
No.9109
>>8837
>vader spreads the rumor that he killed anakin skywalker
>>8845
>oh yeah it seems it's a dark horse comic, but vader is absolutely implying that he and anakin skywalker were two separate beings.
Well it makes sense:
"Hey Lord Vader, you killed a lot of Jedi, right?"
"What about that one… Starkiller I think his name was…"
>"Skywalker, and I killed him too… Barely, due was a real badass…"
>>8863
>I prefer the CIS over a clone army.
B1 is love, B1 IS LIFE!!!
>>8873
> I find it incredibly hard to believe that anybody would be loyal to a person like Palpatine.
Yes, he was shown as a terrible douche who'd always screw you over for his own gain, especially in the EU where anyone wanting to advance in the Empire basically had to sleep with him…
No.9165
I like the political stuff in the prequels.
Sure, the execution was bad, but the idea that Palpy rose to power by causing wars was great.
No.9167
>>9165
>Sure, the execution was bad, but the idea that Palpy rose to power by causing wars was great.
Of course, though that still leaves the issue of how he got the clout he did use to do it in the first place…
The Plagueis novel had the titular character finalizing the millennia long Sith plan to put one of their own at the head of the Republic only for Sheev to Starscream him in the middle of the Phantom Menace.
No.9182
I want more podracing
I wanted to see young Anakin returning to Tatooine and driving again. Is there any Clone Wars episode like this?
No.9189
I'd tongue Padme's anus. But only Ep1 Padme's anus.
No.9196
No.9205
>>9109
>Yes, he was shown as a terrible douche who'd always screw you over for his own gain
But not only that, he's just clearly evil. At least when they revealed him in Empire Strikes Back it was implied he is very secretive and works heavily behind the scenes, especially since Tarkin tells Vader in the original film that he is the only remaining practitioner of his religion.
In RotJ he blatantly presents himself as 'evil dark wizard' in front of all his subordinates. Like, who the fuck would actually look at this person and think "this is definitely the guy who should be ruling the galaxy".
I mean, yah, Vader is pretty ruthless but at least he doesn't seem to purposefully make himself out to look evil, in fact he's actually a pretty respectable leader in the 'don't fuck with me' department.
No.9206
>>9165
>>8817
These.
Further than that, I want to go out and say that I have the unpopular opinion of liking Star Wars. Time and time again, it seems that the popular, "cool" thing to do is to apparently have consumed everything having to do with Star Wars and to dislike all of it except for Episode IV. The most elitist Star Wars fan seems to claim that everything outside of Episode IV is unworthy and sucks.
Well I'm here to tell you something else. In my opinion, the original trilogy is good. I'd give it a 7/10 as a whole. It didn't really inspire me to delve further. As a kid I had a few Star Wars action figures and played a few games, but didn't everyone?
But the prequel trilogy is the best. I literally cannot follow people who seem to take for granted that the prequel trilogy was a "failure," and perhaps that separates me from the majority. I love the politics, the clones, the Jedi Order, Count Dooku, the atmosphere, story etc. For me, the core of Star Wars is actually the prequel trilogy, and I hold everything up to it, SPECIFICALLY Attack of the Clones, which is without a doubt my favorite Star Wars movie, sans Anakin/Padme dialogue.
No.9208
>>9206
if you are genuine, damn. never have i seen someone in your position before.
while i generally consider aotc to be my least favorite sw movie, i recognize that it has a lot of great things about it.
tbh fam i need to rewatch them all, haven't done it in a long time. i marathoned the movies to no end during the summer of 2008 and to this day i can't figure out why.
No.9209
>>9206
>>9208
also, where do you live that you are surrounded by people who hate star wars, or only like episode 4 and discard everything else?
No.9210
>>9209
>>9208
Yes, I am genuine. For me, everything having to do with Jango Fett, the Clones, the Republic Commandos, etc is top tier. If you haven't played that latter game and read Hard Contact, you are really missing out.
The thing about AoTC is the atmosphere it exudes. It opens Star Wars up from primarily taking place in cramped spaces (Millennium Falcon, Emperor's Throne Room, Jabba's Palace, etc) and instead gives us vast plains under cloudless blue skies, huge palaces, magnificent cities, vibrant planets, etc. Star Wars is given a living galaxy: it's given culture. The Star Wars universe becomes an entity, separate from the idea of being a film that you are watching a screen.
Immersion. AoTC gives me the experience of worldly immersion which previous SW films did not offer to me. It is really on this level that I appreciate it. I guess then perhaps I am being unfair. I love the atmosphere and world that AoTC offers. I don't really know how to isolate it as a "film" per se, because it's interwoven with so much EU and other stuff that it's hard to segregate.
It seems that everyone on the Internet holds the opinions I was referring to. It seems everyone condemns the PT, loves the OT, and considers everything that isn't the OT, ''specifically' Episode IV, to be lesser and unworthy.
No.9212
I actually liked Episode VII
No.9261
>>9212
Most people did.
Some here pretend it was worse than the prequels, but that's just because hating new things is the cool thing to do.
No.9270
>>9026
i really want people to understand that whether it be ewoks or wookiees, rotj would not have changed, except maybe for the addition of some chewbacca subplot.
No.9349
Phantom Menace is better than Force Awakens
No.9355
>>9210
> The thing about AoTC is the atmosphere it exudes. It opens Star Wars up from primarily taking place in cramped spaces (Millennium Falcon, Emperor's Throne Room, Jabba's Palace, etc) and instead gives us vast plains under cloudless blue skies, huge palaces, magnificent cities, vibrant planets, etc. Star Wars is given a living galaxy: it's given culture. The Star Wars universe becomes an entity, separate from the idea of being a film that you are watching a screen.
> Immersion. AoTC gives me the experience of worldly immersion which previous SW films did not offer to me. It is really on this level that I appreciate it. I guess then perhaps I am being unfair. I love the atmosphere and world that AoTC offers. I don't really know how to isolate it as a "film" per se, because it's interwoven with so much EU and other stuff that it's hard to segregate.
Mah
fucking
NIGGA
AOTC is awesome
No.9357
>>9165
>>8817
When Order 66 was actually carried out, I actually found it sad that these all power jedi were shot in the back by their own troops.
I actually prefer Clone armor over the classic Storm trooper armor.
No.9480
>>9349
I can confirm this.
No.9488
>>9355
>>9356
have to hand it to lucas, those are some nice shots
No.9522
>>9488
for a guy who studied kurosawa, i would imagine he could make some good shots.
No.9538
I think Episode 7 will be one of the best films on the new era once the rest of the trilogy comes out
No.9548
>>9355
>>9356
>>9488
>have to hand it to lucas, those are some nice shots
>>9522
>for a guy who studied kurosawa, i would imagine he could make some good shots.
George is a GREAT CINEMATOGRAPHER, he's just a shitty dialog writer and director.
No.9553
>>9261
>Most people did
Well if that is the case then my unpopular opinion is that I thought Episode VII was awful.
No.9556
>>9548
i honestly found myself cringing in tfa every time they brought up the force
like it went from pseudo christ to a bedtime story
No.9558
>>9548
Shame Disney didn't hire him to be the director of cinematography of the new trilogy
Probably they were scared of a fan backlash
No.9562
>>9556
>i honestly found myself cringing in tfa every time they brought up the force
>like it went from pseudo christ to a bedtime story
I haven't seen it yet, but wasn't it like that in A New Hope?
>>9558
>Shame Disney didn't hire him to be the director of cinematography of the new trilogy
>Probably they were scared of a fan backlash
Yeah, but at least they kept him around for creative consulting.
No.9576
>>9206
just rewatched the prequels.
I see where you're coming from but George can't direct actors for shit, his dialogue is awful too. The politics work because they don't need those two things to flourish. But the awful romance in two really needed to be removed, or altered or something. the mystery with Obi-Wan was actually very entertaining and informative on just what Jedi did normally, when not in war or in hiding.
The first one was meandering, and had the same dialogue problem. But when I watch the fourth one, It also seemed rather meandering. I still find I enjoy ESB the most, very interesting I think that that is the one where George was off set the most, and the dialogue was heavily edited by others while he was away.
No.9579
>>9548
>he's just a shitty dialog writer and director.
amen to that. seriously, he didn't have any friends that could have handled the dialogue? You had to be like one of the best actors alive to make it interesting.
No.9599
>>9579
>amen to that. seriously, he didn't have any friends that could have handled the dialogue? You had to be like one of the best actors alive to make it interesting.
No that's the thing, Lucas has plenty of friends in the business, but he took too much creative control over the prequels and didn't ask for any of their criticism or input.
No.9614
>>9562
no
obi-wan gave the force a logical statement
No.9621
>>9026
I liked the Ewoks too, but I never thought they were "cute". Some people compare them to teddy bears, but as a child I just got the "bear" part. Tiny bears (i.e. faster and better at hiding than full-sized bears) that had fucking spears and hunted in packs. Bears were scary enough as-is, now there's these fuckers small enough to fit under my bed, armed with deadly weapons and they probably have friends hidden in my closet? Shit's scary yo. But the fun kind of scary.
Basically as a kid I thought the Ewoks were badass.
No.9622
>>9614
>no
>obi-wan gave the force a logical statement
Because he was an ACTUAL JEDI!
Remember how Han said:
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side kid."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V268Qk6-xsw
Even after seeing it in action, Han is no Jedi, and wasn't the only other being commenting on the Force a cryptic old lady alien?
>>9621
>Basically as a kid I thought the Ewoks were badass.
Yeah, that makes sense if you saw them as sapient drop bears…
No.9628
I was three when I saw episode 1 (first movie I saw in theatres) so I liked him too. I was his target audience. I'd say I just like all the hate surrounding him. Its funny to see how much people hate him.
No.9645
Does liking The Force Awakens count as an unpopular opinion? Because the general mood of /tv/ makes me think so.
No.9651
>>9645
> Does liking The Force Awakens count as an unpopular opinion?
In 8chan? Yes.
No.9652
>>9579
> amen to that. seriously, he didn't have any friends that could have handled the dialogue?
He did in Ep 2 and 3
No.9655
>>9651
Liking anything on h8chan is an unpopular opinion
No.9656
>>9560
This just makes the whole 'drunken fist style' Jar Jar even more suspicious..
Oh well, he is the key to all this.
My guess is that he decided to give us a message - or 'preach to us' on two levels. First level is obvious, but seemingly deep. How a manipulator rises in power by pitting two sides against each other.
The other level is deeper - it's where he actually fools us.
No.9671
The Episode III is the best movie
Jar Jar is an ok character
No.9672
I liked the prequels
Besides the shit stain that was TPM, I think the prequels were the best thing to happen to Star Wars. It gave us the Clone Wars and the Grand Army of the Republic, the 501st Legion, and gave so much added lore to the artillery, armored vehicles and regiments/ranks in the Star Wars universe.
And I'm fucking glad Mr. Plinshit wasn't behind the making of the prequels either. He wanted the turn the clone wars into a 20 minute section where people fight Uruk-hai Orcs. He also wants to scrap Coruscant all together.
Original trilogy had the better story, the prequels made the Star Wars setting even better.
No.9673
>>9672
you know, i've heard people complain that aotc has video game graphics
and honestly, it does a bit when you look at the characters
but the scope of everything going on, the great attention to details, make that part of the movie absolutely great.
No.9680
>>9673
>>9672
Hell, even Phantom Menace gave us MOTHER FUCKING DROID ARMIES!
No.9697
No.9702
>>9672
> He also wants to scrap Coruscant all together.
What
Fuck him
>>9673
The clone battle actually looks like a CG from a videogame. But we are talking about a 13 years old movie anyway
No.9703
I liked how Phantom Menace has no clear protagonist, it feels like every character has a equal role in the story. Wish we got more SW movies following this pattern
Instead we got The Mary-sue Awakens
No.9710
I think all the prejudice against the old Star Wars EU was retarded and unwarranted, and most of the reasons people were against it are stupid and probably excuses for "waaah books!!! I hate books!!!!!" as opposed to anything objective. Most of it wasn't bad and it fleshed out the Star Wars universe really nicely and made it a diverse, organic, and mythical universe where so many things happen and have happened that it makes it feel alive, and I liked the fact it didn't all have to do with the Jedi. The complaints about shit not "fitting in" Star Wars are retarded. More shit in the prequels felt out of place in Star Wars than anything from the 80's or 90's EU.
I liked the fact there was a Corporate Sector, I loved the fact that there was a place called the Tion Cluster that was ruled by a guy called Xim the Despot 25,000 years ago. I like the fact Lando had crazy adventures with some weird starfish robot before A New Hope where he saved space manta rays. I love all the little nooks and crannies of the SW galaxy with their own individual stories and weird shit going on. Yeah sometimes it's cheesy and some things were bad, but people seem to hate it in principle as opposed to the quality itself. And God damn I love the X-Wing novels.
Star Wars basically established itself from day 1 as a sci-fi/fantasy hybrid, which to me implies a lot of freedom to what could be acceptable as existing in that universe. Why are people so unfun and closed minded?
The decanonization was merely because expecting movie watching audiences to be caught up with the novels is unrealistic. It made sense and I expected nothing else. Once the Yuuzhan Vong happened the EU was past the point where you could realistically fit the age of all the actors whilst incorporating EU events - selling audiences on a post-Yuuzhan Vong SW universe would be too weird, though I'm of the opinion anything prior would have been doable. I don't even have a huge issue with the Vong, but that's the way it is.
No.9712
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>>9210
I don't disagree with this but honestly the prequels are objectively bad movies on an aggregate level. Anything "good" about them is IN SPITE of that fact. The bulk of RedLetterMedia's critiques are technically correct, and what I mean by that is objectively correct from a movie making standpoint. Sure they missed a few things, like they made it seem like Anakin was more gullible in Revenge of the Sith than he really was, but the small mistakes don't change the overall sweeping points they made.
You can enjoy them for what is good but don't deny reality.
TFA felt soulless to me and I didn't enjoy it at all for a number of reasons - some I am unable to explain, but from a movie making perspective it was technically competent.
No.9717
>>9712
>I don't disagree with this but honestly the prequels are objectively bad movies on an aggregate level
the prequel trilogy's "objective" was to show how the people and events of the ot came to be
on that note they succeeded very well.
No.9732
>>9717
Did you really misinterpret what I meant by objective?
No.9734
I love the prequels - love the scenery, the music, the characters, and Qui-Gon is my favourite character over all
I don't mind Jar Jar - he's not my cup of tea, but I don't have a problem with him
I quite like the ewoks
I'm not going to bother with the Disney Star Wars - I'll stick with the six films and the old EU.
No.9735
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>All these people not hating on the prequels
>All these people thinking they are special for liking SW, unlike most SW fans
All these people are right and are my niggas.
I have regain my faith in humanity and in the SW fanbase
No.9739
>>9732
honestly, i have no idea what you meant by it.
i've seen that word thrown around so much that i assume most people use it as a buzzword now to make themselves sound educated and know what they're talking about.
i still stand by what i said, the prequel trilogy's primary objective was to show how the ot came to be, the secondary objective being make a shitload of money, which it did.
so yeah, still objectively good. as movies in general, they're okay. seen worse but could have been better.
No.9740
>>9735
don't venture too far from here then m8, you won't find as good of a company as you will here.
No.9749
>>9672
>He also wants to scrap Coruscant all together.
I recall the exact opposite, his suggestion was to keep Coruscant, but show it more and more visibly affected by the war as the movies go by. Even photoshopped less cars in some screens as a visual demonstration, with photos of food lines and all added too.
No.9765
>>9734
>and Qui-Gon is my favourite character over all
Does the EU give him character?
Because there's not much to like in TPM.
No.9770
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>>9765
Really?
In TPM we know him as an independent, unconventional, almost a bit of a maverick Jedi, who isn't afraid to argue against the will of the Jedi Council and go his own way.
He is a compassionate mentor and father-figure – he saves Jar Jar's life by taking him with him, he helps Anakin and wants to nurture his talents.
He is much more down to earth than most of the other Jedi, who seem to want to distance themselves as much as possible from the galaxy. Qui-Gon actively interferes – he even manipulates Watto's chance cube so that Anakin can win his freedom.
He is the calmer, sensible one, who seeks alternative ways to go about the mission, compared to the young Obi-Wan, who is much more direct and one-sided.
I think many of the PT characters are highly underrated (Qui-Gon, Padmé, Anakin, Palpatine, Dooku & Maul), and some even more interesting than some of the characters in the OT (Mon Mothma, Boba Fett, Lando).
No.9774
>>9553
Uh, youre not wrong there mate, >>9261 is being a retard, 7 was a shitfest
No.9775
>>9740
yeah, most star wars "fans" are asswipes who colour themselves an R2 mask and dont know why Jar Jar was put in as a senator
No.9778
>>9770
>Dooku
All we know is that he used to be a jedi.
>Maul
The shittiest villain in the series.
He's literally only there so the film could have a lightsaber fight.
>Mon Mothma
Literally who?
>>9775
>dont know why Jar Jar was put in as a senator
Please tell me what kind of a retard made him a senator.
No.9779
>>9778
naboo is an sjw planet, obviously
>big battle
>dying breed
>actively participated in the queen's rescue, bringing attention to the matter, physically fighting in the battle itself, also a gungan general
>doesn't know a thing about space politics
>serves as backup for padme
he's prime senate material
No.9790
My movie ratings:
1: Episode II
2: Episode VI
3: Episode III
4: Episode IV
5: Episode V
6: Episode I
Haven't seen 7 yet
No.9791
>>9778
>Please tell me what kind of a retard made him a senator.
Jeez, i dunno, maybe a Chancellor that wanted emergency powers in order to cement his control over the executive and judicial branches of the Republic as to overthrow the democratic government, wipe out the jedi, and institute an absolutist form of government centered on the person who overthrew the previous administration.
But hey, i mean who really knows how Sheev got into power amiright?
No.9795
>>9791
Wasn't Sheev born into one of the wealthiest aristocratic families of Naboo? He inherited all their wealth after murdering every single person in his family after he became a Sith apprentice for Plagueis. He could have easily bought his way to the top.
Besides, it seems like it doesn't take much to intimidate or scare people into doing things your way in the Star Wars universe. Sheev convinced a peaceful trade federation into blockading an entire planet, mass producing a droid army and then forcing them to attack planet.
No.9797
i like the droid army more than the clones.
No.9798
>>9765
There are some books and comics with/about him
No.9800
>>9795
>Easily bought his way to the top
Not necessarily? Im sure there are hundreds of one-bit senatorial families that are wealthy, but to buy the most important office in the galaxy-spanning Republic? I dont buy it
>Sheev convinced a peaceful trade federation into blockading an entire planet, mass producing a droid army and then forcing them to attack planet.
>Sheev convinced a peaceful trade federation
>Peaceful
These Megacorporations had private armies dedicated to collecting their dues since the Republic would not enact laws that would collect their dues for them, these droids dint just spoof out of thin air because Sheevie convinced them too. The debacle at Naboo was the first time that the Sith tried to force their will as openly as possible, they took advantage of the whacko laws passed by the Senate (thanks to the manipulation of the Sith) and pressed their advantage. You have to remember the first 3 movies are the climax of Bane's plan put in motion 1,000 years prior.
No.9804
>>9673
>you know, i've heard people complain that aotc has video game graphics
Did they always say that? Or just recently? Because CGI tends to age poorly. For example, modern day video games look way better than Toy Story 1, especially when you exclude ray tracing.
No.9809
I fuckin' *hated* the new movies and it isn't just new-thing-is-bad syndrome. From the obnoxious mary sue'ing to stormtroopers no longer being male clones of a kiwi to just not having any real content. It was a theme park, not a story. Then inclusion of Solo felt like a namedrop more than being a useful character to tie in with the first trilogy.
And god fucking dammit, the rampant social justice bullshit surrounding the whole release feels so scripted and people are eating it up. It's fake outrage manufactured to put bums in seats.
No.9813
>>9804
more recently, which is why i'm inclined to disagree with them. those graphics were top-notch at the time, it's just that since then cgi has greatly evolved, so we look back at older films and think they have shit cgi.
meanwhile, somehow 2001 still looks crisp to the point that it could have been made today, but not everyone is stanley kubrick.
No.9814
>>9809
tbh fam your only legit complaint is about the sjw stuff
mary sueing has been around for a long time and won't ever go away
stormtroopers were barely clones of jango fett by the time of the ot, and certainly not after an additional 30 years, all the clones of fett would be dead by this point.
No.9820
>>9814
the originals at least
No.9823
>>9795
>Peaceful trade federation
>Peaceful
>Led by Viceroy Nute "I KIRU PADEMU" Gunray
Top lel
No.9827
>>9189
I'd tonguefuck Padme from any epsiode's anus.
No.9829
I mean just look at this semen demon, I'd excavate her shithole.
No.9840
>>9205
to be fair, Donald trump looks kind of funny too. As did Napoleon, Hitler, Abraham Lincoln etc…
Point is, a lot of idolized leaders look really funny.
No.9841
>>9790
that's some weird taste you got there man
No.10091
>>9739
he means in terms of film technique. In which he is correct. They fail on that front.
No.10105
>>10091
how so? it uses everything we saw in the originals
No.10124
Rey isn't a mary sue
anti-feminists just WANT to hate her so fucking much
*I fucking hate SJWs so god damn much, but there is NOTHING wrong with Rey**
No.10137
>>8801
Be kind to refugees, they are your brothers and sisters in the human family.
Humans are wonderful. We are so peace loving and kind.
No.10153
>>9778
> All we know is that he used to be a jedi.
And classy as fuck
>>9778
> The shittiest villain in the series.
No, Maul was competent, unlike a certain villain who struggles to defeat a non-sensitive stormtrooper
> He's literally only there so the film could have a lightsaber fight
And to show how powerful the sith are. He was a sith apprentice and killed a jedi master
> Mon Mothma
ROTJ
No.10169
>>10105
basic story structure, foreshadowing, dialogue, pacing, things like that.
The first one, if you remember, was saved in the editing room the first time. then for V and VI George wasn't directing
No.10202
>unpopular opinions
how about FUCK ALL YALL
golden age of peace after ROTJ
No.10247
>>10202
>golden age of peace after ROTJ
This is an upopular opinion?
No.10258
I enjoy Death Troopers as both a concept and a story.
No.10265
>>10169
> basic story structure, foreshadowing, dialogue, pacing, things like that
Yes I remember them in EP 1-3
>>9712
> , but from a movie making perspective it was technically competent.
Lacks character development, lacks explanation (what the fuck is going on in the movie?), bizarre jump cuts, most humor failed, almost no power balance between characters (therefore the action scenes sucked), lots of conveniences and plot-holes and one of the worst mary-sues ever made in the the story of movies
Very competent, sure
No.10267
>>10265
>>10265
Also there's something very wrong with EP7's pacing in the last act
The Resistance send their ships, an explosive action scene starts and then right after this we spend the next 10-15 minutes watching Han and Chewie setting up bombs, the whole dramatic scene between Han and Kylo and some confront between Kylo and Finn/Rey. Then the action scene finally returns. I even forgot about it.
Sorry for my mediocre english btw
No.10268
>>8801
Jar Jar is the main antagonist in all of Star Wars. Think about it. I'll let that sink in
No.10284
>>8801
I prefer the EU to the movies, though I don't mean to call the films bad, I just got my start in the EU when I was young.
No.10292
>>10124
I realize that this is an unpopular opinions thread, but surely you have to compare her to Luke, and how much he sucked before he was trained.
I mean her sudden prowess at everything was just so ridiculous. she didn't suck at anything. She was a great pilot, mechanic, lightsaber duelist, force-user, blaster shot, most of all of those on her very first try. She had never been off-planet, never heard of the force, never held a lightsaber, spent all of ten minutes on the Millennium falcon before knowing it better than Han Solo, Literally just held a blaster and is tearing down Stormtroopers who we now know are trained from birth.
Seriously, I'd give her Pilot and Stick-fighter, but everything else was way too much. And winning your first fight against the big bad in your first fight? How is that building suspense? The canyon split them apart anyway, So at least have Kylo, the guy who's trained in lightsaber use win.
No.10308
>>10258
Same here. I would have loved to see them do more stand alone/oneshot stories and tried something new - Lovecraftian horror + Star Wars? sure, why not!
No.10340
>>8833
You are correct. Return of the Jedi was soulless money grubbing and toy selling. It is legitimately the second worst in the franchise, only beat out by Episode 2.
Pretty sure they only made a third one so they could call it a 'trilogy.'
No.10354
>>9778
Mon Mothma is "Many Bothans Died" woman.
I don't understand the "Sheev" thing at all. Why do people call palpatine Sheev?
No.10355
>>10354
In the new canon novel Tarkin it was revealed that his first name was Sheev. I don't know the context surrounding it but that's where it came from. It's based on the Hindu god Shiva the destroyer. The line goes:
>"Thank you, Sheev"
No.10392
>>8812
Anticlimactic deaths seem to run in the family. >>9026
Nowadays, all the flaws I never saw as a kid are becoming more visible, and I fucking detest that space care bears is the path they took, but because of nostalgia goggles and the fact that these little guys are connected to some of the sweetest moments of my childhood, I just can't truly hate them.
No.10393
I prefer the EU, both the good and bad to what we have now. The new Battlefront is shit. I don't think the prequels were bad, just disappointing. I hate Kylo Ren and Rey and think they are the worst parts of the new movie.
>>10258
Good times.
No.10408
>>10340
>rotj and aotc soulless money grabbing and 2 hr merchandising commercials
>claims they are the bottom of the barrel
you haven't seen force awakens, have you?
>>10393
kylo ren would have been better if half the dialogue other people said around him wasn't HEY YOU'RE HAN SOLO'S KID LEL YOU FAGGOT
No.10431
I always found this "mando" wank and Boba Feet fanboyism fucking annoying. Actually the whole "clone army created from the best bounty hunter in the galaxy" thing annoying.
No.10434
>>10431
Not to mention he got easily owned by Windu when he could've just easily flown away.
No.10483
>>8801
I do not dislike JarJar or like him and never understood the storm of hate the came upon him.
No.10488
I liked the new film quite a bit. It's basically just a soft reboot that takes after A New Hope entirely too much, but it's entertaining, shot relatively well, has some fun characters, and the best lightsaber duels we've seen in years.
I guess it's an unpopular opinion here, but I also despise the prequels for being shit, despite some of the creative ideas behind them being pretty solid and interesting. The best thing to come out of the prequels was the spinoff material it created, all of which were infinitely better than the movies themselves.
No.10490
>>10431
Blame Traviss for the mando wank
No.10541
>>10393
I like the EU a lot too, but with all the plot holes, inconsistencies, and retarded actions take by the major players in the prequel films, they ruin the rest of the Star Wars universe by creating a shitty story for this major event.
I wish the EU and the prequel films could be divorced somehow and pretend like the prequels never happened, so that we can have a story that makes sense for the fall of the Republic and birth of the Empire.
No.10691
>>10488
StarWars didn't need a reboot, especially when you advertised a sequel
No.10994
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>>8801
>Unpopular opinions thread
The prequel trilogy wasn't that bad.
No.10997
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EA shekel stealing and lack of content aside, I really like the new battlefront game
No.11012
>>8801
>>8801
>>8812
Boba fett's popularity is based entirely on fan love and hype, because he had cool armor.
Everyone made Boba Fett the coolest character to like, but in the movies he didnt do much. He had a cool ship too.
No.11014
I like the Darth Jar Jar theory, even if I don't agree with it.
No.11019
>>11012
that's not an unpopular opinion, that's the truth.
an unpopular opinion would be something like you think his episode 2 backstory is great, or that you think he should have stayed dead.
No.11021
>>11012
>is the only bounty hunter or, apparently, other being in the sector capable of outsmarting Han
>respected by Vader when nobody else is, to the point Vader isn't upset when he gets pushy about the contract
>did nothing
the fuck are you smoking, if it weren't for him, the entire end to ESB wouldn't have happened
No.11185
I used to deeply think disney was going to do a great job with the franchise and that the demise of the EU wasn't too serious because of all the terrible stuff and filler EU 1.0 had.
Needless to say that shit changed pretty quickly
>mfw after seeing TFA
>>8863
The Confederacy was actually an interesting enemy force (especially vidya) when it wasn't just a bunch of dim-witted robots programmed to commit slapstick humor 24/7 instead of combatting.
Why does TCW do this ALL THE TIME
>>8868
I don't know much about the in depth details of the Yuuzhan Vong storylines, but their concept gets too much hate. Warmonging being from another galaxy out of the force should feel alien to Star Wars and cause a lot of chaos and death, that is the point.
>>9026
It's not you, they ARE cute
Although they still deserve a complete planetary holocaust for what they have done in ROTJ and I would eagerly have walked over those little shits in my chicken walker[/edge]
>>9790
>Episode 2 on top
>Episode 5 that low
>Prequels and OT mixed
That's esoteric as fuck bruv
>>9827
Even OT Padme ?
No.11691
>>10308
They had a weird pseudo-Lovecraftian dark side creature from that far reaches of the galaxy as the villain in that last major book series they did with the EU. I don't think they pulled it off too well, but it was pretty inventive I guess.
No.11717
>>9355
Those CGI animators did a good job
No.11718
The only serious problem I have with the Yuuzhan Vong story is killing off Chewbacca.
No.11721
I actually enjoyed SWTOR. I don't like playing as a force user though so I only use BH, IA and Smuggler. Would also bang Satele Shan if given the chance.
No.11916
>>8801
>>8807
Clone Wars cartoon fleshed him out a little more and actually made him interesting and likable.
While he was still awkward and clumsy, he wasn't irritating and actually came across as rather resourceful along with being deceptively intelligent.
No.11917
>>11721
>Would also bang Satele Shan?
Seriously, who hasn't said that? lol
No.11921
>>11917
I always wondered during that Galactic War how many Jedi got raped :^)
No.11926
all aliens should be gassed
No.11986
People take Star Wars entirely too seriously, no matter what the medium. But that's kinda alright here, since it's a containment board made for discussing - but mostly bitching - about Star Wars.
No.11988
>>11986
I've come to this conclusion as well, anon.
I used to take it very seriously, but TFA made me simply not care anymore.
No.11999
>>11986
I think we take Star Wars seriously is because we grew up with it when it first came out, made a little culture based around it.
And we had it smashed up and used as cocaine to sell off the streets.
No.12032
>>8801
me too. Look how cool his design looks on this toy
No.12035
>>10490
I do, Trooper. Oh boy, I do.
One dark night Traviss will wake up to a snap-hiss and a cyan light will be the last thing she sees.
No.12036
>>10488
>and the best lightsaber duels we've seen in years.
wat
No.12038
>>12036
The lighting set design for the lightsaber fight at the end is fucking amazing tho!
No.12041
>>12038
>>12038
i still can't get past the fact that they retconned how that saber works
motherfucker, the switch was always in the middle of the hilt, not that fucking button up top.
No.12042
>>12041
wait what do you mean?
No.12044
No.12057
>>12038
Holy shit, those images are horribly oversaturated. And that lightsaber duel was sloppy as fuck.
No.12058
>>12043
>>12044
Wow that sucks, damn it JJ.
No.12064
>>12038
>mfw the fighting is sloppy and full of Ma-rey Sue getting all those lucky breaks with the ground breaking up.
No.12184
>>9790
I can see why Episode II is at the top after reading the rest of the thread, but everything else seems random. Care to elaborate?
No.12185
>>12038
the only good part of this fight is that it felt like two claymores smacking each other.
but that's it.
No.12187
>>12043
Even my fucking lightsaber chopsticks got it right.
No.12207
>>12185
Which is rather odd seeing how, aside from the handle, lightsabers are supposed to be WEIGHTLESS!
No.12208
I hated the end of RoTJ. The Empire could be never defeated like that fashion, even with suspension of disbelief.
Want to blow up the shield generator? Fine, remove the ewoks and fix that spec-ops team. The way Han trick the guy from the bunker is just too stupid to be accepted.
No.12211
I like Anakin's fall from jedi to Vader even though it really doesn't work just because I like stories about people falling like that.
No.12221
TFA made me appreciate the last 6 movies more, since it was fucking awful girl power PC garbage.
No.12223
Other than TFA being SJW pandering (why can't anyone write a good female lead without it being incredibly contrived and "I REALLLLY WANTED HER TO BE A SHE THO" shoehorning), it was pretty alright. I loved the cantina scene on tiny old asian alien's planet. So many rad costumes made just to be shown for half a second, it really felt like star wars to me.
However, the universe in TFA seems much smaller than the other movies. We saw five planets getting destroyed, one of them was a city world like coruscant, but we only think they're important because we were passingly told once "these are new republic worlds, so the five trillion people living there are worth more than the five trillion people on the imperial world six light-hours southwest of here".
episode one was really rad. the CG was so much better than II, and the cinematography was amazing. glaring flaws aside, it was the most enjoyable of the prequels IMO.
episode II is the second best prequel, mainly because it showed a planetary land invasion of incredible scale. i don't care about light saber fights, i don't care about the starfighters, show me battle of the bulge, normandy, hamburger hill, mogadishu, and show formations of hundreds of bombers and fighters clashing above. episode II was the only star wars to show that in the right scale.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so5w-h7GFEc
thinking that this kind of shit happened readily in WWII, and made an unreal scene in a period piece seem so otherworldly gives no excuse to sci-fi directors, writers, and cinematographers.
luke made a good unlikely hero, but by Empire he should have fallen into place as a sort of less horrible Che Guevara. he looks like ellen degeneres, even after his face got smashed in that accident between the first two movies.
No.12224
>>12223
oh, forgot to mention:
a popular opinion is that the new stormtroopers are the worst fucking thing. they look like humanoid kia souls that vape. the first pic i posted is apparently concept art from TFA. what the fuck happened?
No.12229
Episode 3 and Episode 4 are tied as my favorite star wars movies.
The prequels were so much better in terms of immersion and bringing out the world visually to match what I felt when I first read comics. I somewhat feel like a hipster for liking them so much and I honestly thought jar jar was pretty fine. Anakin was the worst part of episode 1 in my opinion.
The thing that bothers me the most about Episode VII is that the whole thing leaves me nothing to sink my teeth into. No interesting aliens, planets, ships, hardly anything worth taking note of in the visual guide that I'd love to learn and spend hours on the internet digesting or rumoring about. That and the movie is far too "Funny" but I won't go into a rant. I went into the movie twice trying to like it but I just didn't get anything out of it.
The Clone Wars is probably my favorite piece of star wars media, it handled anakins character so much better than the films and the domino squad episodes are god tier. It's such a shame rebels doesn't come close to it.
No.12231
>>9749
This
He said that in Episode III when everyone was like "this war is taking a toll" "We have to stop it now, we can't last any longer" And then in background you see that Coruscant looks just like it did before the war even after the Confederate invasion.
No.12232
>>10258
Deathtroopers was bretty gud, but Han and Jewbacca should have been there, you think you just forget a Star Destroyer full of zombies and cannibal officers?
No.12233
No.12234
No.12244
>>12223
>>12224
I largely agree on the notions of TFA being forced and empty, as well as Episode I being neat.
The supposed concept art is a good evolution of the Stormtrooper, if not for the redundant outfit on top of the armor.