/starwars/ - Star Wars

the post-jedi eu is a bit of a mess, i'll give it that.

there's good and there's bad, but the history is detailed well beyond 30 measly years.

my annoyance is disney/lucasfilm wiping out the ENTIRE eu. no kotor, no sote, rogue squadron, etc. anything that isn't the movies and shows were stripped of their canon rights. that's some shenanigans right there.

overall my experience to the old eu has been 90% positive and 10% negative. a lot more good than bad, and it's a shitty decision that it was just washed away.

>>8886

oh i forgot to add on that i'm more towards the first group than the second. i have hopes that the new eu will produce some good shit, most of what's out now is crap and not worth getting into except for rebels.

the second group are the same jackoffs who shit on the prequels because it didn't have han luke and leia, and all that lovey dovey space pirating stuff the ot had.

but hey, opinions are opinions. i, for one, think that kevin j anderson is a great writer and that the jedi academy trilogy and darksaber are fine additions to the eu because they mimic the tone and feeling of the movies and at the same time add new adventures to the universe. but most people seem to disagree with me.

I loved the old EU, with VERY limited exceptions fuck you, Mt. Sorrow

Well Karen Traviss is prolly taking this as a sucker punch to the gut.

Honestly, i was super invested in the old EU, since the fact that it had a single continuity was a huge seller for me (i absolutely despise Marvel and DC and how they whored out their franchises and how the comic book nerds gobble that shit up) KOTOR, the whole Old Republic, Yhuuzan Vong, etc. I loved it, i loved the fact that there were 30,000+ years of history to explore, i loved the fact that the old EU was an amalgam of different points of view, ideas, etc without changing what makes Star Wars, well, Star Wars. As a Historian i absolutely love the single-continuity shcling.

I want to read the novels, all of them, but theres only so much space in my library and so much cash to go around.

I am still exited about the new movie though, even if i hate myself for it. Theres something about a new SW movie that always makes me giddy. Ill treat it however, as a separate affair, ill treat it as a different take on what is Star Wars, a different perspective, etc. Much like what art means to Van Gogh is different to what art is to Da Vinci (although JJ is obviously the kid who shovels shit for a living)

>>8883

The thing about the EU is that if you take the good you wind up taking the bad just because of how tightly shit got linked. But there's a LOT of bad to go around.

Like Legacy of the force: Where the sith are back with zero explanation and somehow the empire is still around a century later despite constantly losing ground but has their own jedi for no known reason, and character development basically amounts to "I used to be a jedi, but now I'm a bounty hunter, and good luck figuring out how that happened without buying another 30 to 40 issues". Or force unleashed, where Vader has an apprentice who can one punch Palpatine and it just conveniently never came up.

But you kinda have to fucking deal with it. Because if you play the tabletop games WotC lumped those two settings in with a bunch of actually good stuff in their books. Or else because the material gets referenced in another novel you like. Or else some other thing.

Canon kind of becomes canon after a certain point. The emperor reborn stuff was BAD. But even the good novels from afterward have to be like "the death star was a thrilling battle, but remember the time the emperor came back as a 20something stud with like 50 more superweapons and Luke actually fell to the dark side and there were even more super star destroyers?" and then even the movies diminish in comparison and so does the good stuff like Thrawn.

>>8897

>Well Karen Traviss is prolly taking this as a sucker punch to the gut.

Pity she can't take it like a bullet to the brain.

Personally I liked the EU. The problem was that there was so much stuff in it from the books, comics, games, etc that you basically had to have a headcanon of what you considered was 'real' or not.

Disney, shot itself in the foot with jettisoning all of it though. I guarantee there wont be the heights of the old EU in the new one.

Yje old EU had Timothy Zahn and the new one has Chuck Wendig. Need I say more?

>>8902

Why all the hate against Traviss?

>>8947

Constant point of contention, trooper. people dislike her because she blatantly fanboys over her chosen characters, such as making the Nulls the most overly mary sue'd bastards ever and I'm saying this as someone who likes her work and making things political.

Of course, they also bitch when she doesn't portray people such as the Jedi or Halsey in a negative light, despite that being perfectly justifiable.

But i liked the old EU, because in one way or another it does had consistency, continuity. Even the silliest things could be retconned or given proper treatment.

I didn't liked Wankatine, Vong-Sues, the Galactic Empire reduced to saturday cartoon villains (Dark Greetings anyone?) butin the end the whole was good. A pity they scrapped the old EU just when they where approaching the point of the showing the beginnings of the Fel Empire and the Imperial Knights.

>>9000

Nice to see you're seeing the truth OP instead of the fags always screaming how the EU is shit. However for me its 80% good and 20% because I count the merch with lore and SWTOR with the bad parts.

>>9000

nice trips

anyways, fucking casuals is usually what it boils down to. they just want the movies over and over, which is why they're hyped as fuck for the cuck awakens™

I loved: Clone Wars EU

I liked: New Jedi Order EU

I couldn't really get into: Inbetween film EU

Dark Horse Master race!

>>9040

Oh and anything by Zahn or Dark Horse I adore.

>>9023

Bigger Luke was a clone.

>>9040

I really liked Dark Horse but something about the Mandalore stories felt iffy.