/starwars/ - Star Wars

Any details? Pros? Cons? General reaction from audience walking out of the theater?

>giving jew jew and the mouse shekels

>being part of the "opening weekend" statistics

>not being able to tell this was a pile of shit since the announcement

kill yourself tbh fam

>>9137

worst offense is that he went to a midnight premiere.

i used to go to those, but after fury road there's no point.

I'm seeing it at 7 tomorrow before the midnight release here in the states, but I've seen enough leaked shit to know exactly what kind of gay shit happens.

But what you should really do is step-by-step confirm the leaks since they were legit

>>9140

What more evidence do you need, people have already leaked all the major scenes.

>>9140

>But what you should really do is step-by-step confirm the leaks since they were legit

the webms aren't enough for you?

>>9143

He's literally in denial.

Where are the torrents?

>>9144

Or a marketer

>>9144

>>9146

No, he's right. It's hard not to be in denial when you learn that something hyped almost as much as TPM is going to be just as bad or worse.

>>9147

>I will see it tomorrow

>You should really confirm the leaks

Maybe he's in denial, but forgive me if I'm skeptical. You saw this kind of "I'm getting it, you should try it too" talk on /v/ for years.

>>9148

that's different. this is all shit that has been rumor for months now, and we now have visual/audio confirmation of it.

it's straight up denial.

>>9156

>Says the film is alright but not great

>"DISNEY SHILL!!!1!!!1 DISNEY SHILL!!11!11!!1!"

>>9162

Yes, you're switching gears because saying the movies are good would be too big a lie.

It wasn't decent, it was ass on a platter.

>>9164

How bad was it? Am I going to be disappointed from the start just like TPM?

>>9154

I heard Kylo is Anakin 2.0

Is this true?

How badly will Plinkette shit on this movie? He didn't change since I watched his last review did he? I don't want Half in the Bag.

>>9174

anakin wasn't a tryhard edgelord though

>>9175

Stoklasa is a lazy fatass so he's likely not going to make another review.

He's basically the Jorge Lucas of shitty youtube videos now.

>edgelord

>posted by faggots trying to be hipsters by saying this movie sucks

It's a really good movie. Sure, it's not flawless, but it certainly doesn't suck!

>>9181

Jesus, if I wanted to see everyone shouting "Shill" all day then I'd go back to Gamergate.

>>9154

>It's not terrible, but the story is really over the top and cringeworthy.

It's not a movie, it is a SJW manure. If it was just over the top it would have been okay – and even if you kept all the SJW bullshit in it then it would just have been a crappy movie… but this flick managed to do one worse as the pacing is shot to hell and the entire thing is just the characters hopping from one place to another and meeting people without any real reason as to why they would just happen to run across them at that point in time. The movie doesn't even know when to end as it doesn't understand that the whole movie should have been about Han Solo since they killed him off… instead the movie continues to show us more BS Mary Sue crap long after the Han died – and then rubs it ion our faces as they give noname fat tumblr background pilots close ups when they cheer after the planet explodes.

Yes han Solo was great as was Chewie – and that little robot BB8 was a better comic sidekick that R2 will ever be.

BUT, a few good scenes and one good actor does not make a movie.

TL;DR

The flick is shit – get over it SJW shill

>>9211

> ut this flick managed to do one worse as the pacing is shot to hell and the entire thing is just the characters hopping from one place to another and meeting people without any real reason as to why they would just happen to run across them at that point in time.

Sounds like a JJ abrams movie, all right

> and then rubs it ion our faces as they give noname fat tumblr background pilots close ups when they cheer after the planet explodes.

This is worse than I thought, damn

>>9211

>and then rubs it ion our faces as they give noname fat tumblr background pilots close ups when they cheer after the planet explodes.

What do you mean by "noname fat tumblr background pilots"? Are you just throwing buzzwords together, or did JJ honestly give some dyed haired dyke a close-up? Details?

>>9224

When the pilots have finished blowing up the Sun Destroyer, they give us closeups (in the pilot seats) of three of the five pilots. As it happens to be, aside from the only named pilot (Pun or whatever his name was) the other two pilots are fat. One is a fat dude that looks like those fedora weraring bros that can't grow a proper beard, and the other one is a pudgy looking tumblr woman in her early thirties that looks like she belongs in a zoo. Neither of them are of any importance so it seemed obvious that they were included to show us that fat useless peopel also can blow up "death stars".

>>9224

As to whether or not her hair was dyed – I have no idea as she wore a helmet in the scene and you only see her when she is flying her X-wing. She is noname because she only appeared when showing her as a pilot – she has no story and is of no importance, yet the constantly pan to her and the fat dude during the whole attack on Sun Destroyer. Sure we had a fat guy in the first star wars movie, but he was realistically blown up by better pilots. These guys are just backgroudn characters – token fat people given importance even though they weren't relevant to begin with. Instead of giving Han's death scene some meaning, they give us cheering fat people.

>>9230

>>9241

Actually he's leaving out Nien Nunb being a pilot as well. I think there was even another, average male pilot in the mix. I'm hazy about that bit though.

>>9230

Well yeah… this thread lists more of the flaws in the movie:

http://8ch.net/starwars/res/9105.html#9106

>>9181

What a predictable response. Do you even own your own brain?

>>9241

>I wouldn't say it sucks either, I'd say it's 'meh', but even that level of 'praise' is enough to make me a confirmed Disney hire.

Remember when The Phantom Menace came out and people thought it was awesome after leaving the cinemas? Also the critics raved about the new Star Trek movies but they have exactly the same problems as this flick: they tried to suck too much fanboi dick.

The only issue I had with TFA were the obvious casting choices based on hiring suck-ups who just wanted to be in a Star Wars movie. That and the scientific explanation to how they contained a star in the core of the "Death Star MK3", "thermomagnetic containment field" is a lot less interesting than "magic" (which they virtually have in the Star Wars universe) and it's something that our civilisation could have in the next 50 years, let alone a civilisation obviously thousands of years more advanced than us.

I would call those small gripes, though.

>>9241

>I saw no fat, tumblr stereotype. It was just an average looking woman piloting an X-Wing.

See that red haired feminist in the post you just replied too? her face is pudgy. The "average looking" woman you refer to was similarly pudgy. Pudgy is a form of fat. I didn't call her grossly obese… I called her pudgy – like kebab eating tumblrs. You know? the kind that are "only" some 15kg overweight.

>He's leaving out the alien pilot

Nope. The alien pilot appeared briefly during the start of the fight and if I recall correctly once when they flew in. He was NEVER shown when they flew out of the Sunkiller and it blew up. Only the pudgy woman, the fat neckbeard and Poe were shown. Poe had to be shown because he was their captain – but the other two were picked because they represented tumblrs.

>>9242

Again – nope. He didn't appear when the planet exploded.

>>9241

>How delusional must you be to be seeing SJWs in everywhere and everything.

JJ.Abrahams is an SJW. He deliberately focused on background characters that were spics and females just to show everyone how "diverse" and "progressive" he was.

>The only 'SJW' moments were those cringe-worthy girl power scenes between Finn and Rey at the beginning.

Haha no. Those were actually pretty tame when comparing to all the other shit was pulled in the movie. Like the fucking female Yoda, deliberately being a kugger that was calling Chewie a "boy" just to show us that "old ladies can treat big hairy men with sex in mind" because not only men like sex. THAT was cringe-worthy.

>I wouldn't say it sucks either

But it did suck – and not because it was full of SJW bullshit. It sucked because the pacing was crap, the story telling didn't make sense – the main protagonist was a Mary Sue – the main villain was lackluster and not important… ect ect ect ect ad infinitum.

>I say yes, but done right

If "hipster with no background" means "done right" in your opinion… then sure.

>there's no boring sitting or pacing dialogue scenes.

Yes yes, instead we get shit pacing where the characters hop from one place to another and randomly happen across shit and important characters just – you know "because". It was shit writing on 14 year old fanfic writer level. Fuck, even Michael Bay pace his movies better.

>You people are trying way too hard to be edgy

Pointing out that the movie was shit is trying to be edgy? Was that what happened when people raged on Jarjar and said he was crap? Were people just trying to be egdy back then?

>and seem smarter than the average viewer.

Again, your post doesn't help your case.

>it was way more Star Wars than the prequels.

No, it wasn't. The prequels were shit, and their inclussion of R2 and C3P0 was crap… but this new movie is just a sheep in wolfs clothing. It uses stuff that is familiar, with a rehashed script – to give us basically the same movie as New hope – only less good. This movie was shit – it didn't even try to be it's own movie. It was just a vehicle for JJ so that he could make Star Wars "less of a white page".

>>9241

>How delusional must you be to be seeing SJWs in everywhere and everything. The only 'SJW' moments were those cringe-worthy girl power scenes between Finn and Rey at the beginning.

And the fact Rey is a boring mary-sue who is better than everyone, learn to use the force out of nowhere and turns to be the new Millenium Falcon pilot (no, not Chewie, Han's biggest friend)

> I say yes, but done right.

Then why is he so incompetent and whiny? Even Anakin was stronger than him - and less whiny.

> No, what's happening on screen is very clear, and there's no boring sitting or pacing dialogue scenes.

But it does have the typical boring JJ Abrams action scenes, weak villains and rushed story.

> no

Yes.

> You people are trying way too hard to be edgy and seem smarter than the average viewer. Yes, it rhymed with A New Hope, but it was still fun and a bit sad. Could have been much better, but it was way more Star Wars than the prequels. You're breaking no grounds with your gripes, and everyone can see what you're doing.

No, I'm pointing the fact the movie sucked. And yes, the average viewer is dumb; you don't need to "try hard" to be smarter than them. You seem to be too phlegmatic towards the movie, as if mediocrity can be fun and it's ok to have a Star Wars movie like this, because it seems that "being better than the prequels" is enough even if the movie is still shit.

>>9255

The trilogy after left is gone will start with

"THE DARK TIMES are over… …a NEW THREAT emerges amongst the NEW REPUBLIC; a split faction has…"

>>9255

>instead of listening to the actually fans, JJ will call them racist is make the movie just as SJW as the last, if not more

JJ isn't making the next movie, its another SJW director that is even worse than him from what I gather.

Most likely they aregoing to make this new female protagonist into the person that the propechy referred to. You know "the one that will bring balance to the force".

In Rey's dream/destiny sequence there is a scene where Luke Skywalker kneels in front of her and hands her his light saber.

>>9154

Poe was pretty cool to. But yeah Rey is as mary sue to the extreme and Kylo is a whiny bitch, even worse so than Hayden's Anakin

>>9275

And that is what scares me. Disney went full on SJW after Bob Igor took over the company. Walt is turning over in his grave knowing damn well what Bob is doing to his baby.

>>9255

Its like Phantom Menace all over again. Fanboys at first loved it, and then a few weeks to a year later the hate piled on more and more. Trust me Rey is going to be pretty much hated soon by the die hard fanboys for being too "perfect" and Kylo will be considered the worst villain of all time in Star Wars history.

I can't wait for RLM and Plinkett to tear into this movie. Yeah I know RLM like Jew Jew, but even they are going to have Plinkett tear this movie a new asshole

>>9278

I always loved Star Wars but when I first saw Phantom Menace – less than ONE minute into it I realized it was shit. The thing starts of with a horrible sounding alien language, then two Jedi's walking around on the alien ship and being boring. Then the aliens show up and they look like Kermit. Then the idiotic robots show up – after which a crappy battle takes place and the Jedi crash on the planet. The planet looks like it's on earth and not alien at all. Then JarJar shows up – and I'm surprised I didn't walk out of the cinema.

Now the new movie – the first scene that had be raise my eyebrow was the panning in on the fighters that prepared to fight the First Order. The first person/background character you see take up arms and get ready – is a Mexican looking woman. There are other background characters in that scene, but she is the only one in focus.

So I went "huh… oookay… that felt weird."

Then when Finn showed up I wasn't actually finding him as crappy as I thought I would – but overal the movie was riddled with crap.

In fact, it seems they didn't even quality check the lines properly as Fin when asked by Han Solo if was ready replies:

"Hell no".

–

See this is problematic. "hell" is a specific name humans have for what we believe to happen in the afterlife – and this name has then made it into normal speech where it also works as an added "ompf".

But why "the hell" would they use that word in speech in a galaxy far far away?

They say stuff like: "may the force with you" instead of "god bless"…

So words like "hell" should have been changed to fit as well. Maybe a word like "shades!!" or something referring to the dark side – or maybe just an alien word like "eechuba" or similar.

"hell no" is just ghetto slang and has absolutely no place in a Star Wars movie.

>ITT

>autists trying to be edgy and hate on a franchise that in reality they have no love for

I do not honestly believe half of the people in this thread are Star Wars fans.

>>9283

naboo doesn't look like earth

the planet at the end of tfa looks more like earth

>>9283

To be fair, in Empire, Han says "Then I'll see you in hell!" to a guy when he takes a tauntaun out to look for Luke.

I realize it's only been out a day or two.

But does anybody have a stream or something?

>>9135

Disappointing as fuck. I was at least hoping for an original story but the whole thing felt like a remake of Episode IV.

>>9283

>>9321

in a new hope, han says to leia "what the hell are you doing?"

at one point the supreme chancellor/emperor was called the president of the senate

lucas used shit from our world and dropped it into his own fantasy. deal with it.

>>9283

Obi Wan says "damn foolish idealistic crusade"

That's 2 no-no's right there in your book

>>9294

>naboo doesn't look like earth

No, the planet has a definete "earth feel" to it right when they meet Jarjar for the first time.

>>9321

True, Ham Solo did use the word "hell" and I did notice it – but at least he didn't use as an idiom or as interjection.

>>9405

damn is not a specific place. As for Crusades, yes that one is a bit bad as the word crusades etymology comes from the word cross… but unlike "hell" it isn't so tightly tied to our language as hell is.

>>9326

Yes I reacted to it when Leia said that as well – it was bad back then and it is bad now. It is inserting language of a specific type that feels out of place. Yet – it still isn't as bad as having a black man "talk black". For instance, could you really say it was okay if Finn started using he word "nigger"? Nigger of course just means "black", but it is so deeply entrenched into ghetto culture that hearing the word punctures the fantasy feel.

As for "President" however there is no problem since the words etymology is derived from "to preside over". I.E to oversee. Palpatin became the Overseer.

>>9329

Shill? Nah, you are just one of those people that don't notice all the SJW shit that is making it's way into movies nowadays. Go read this thread:

http://8ch.net/starwars/res/9105.html

and see if you can properly retort all of those 22 things (there are actually more problems than that), and then come back to this thread.