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39faf8 No.19

I've been thinking that we should start a site which clearly lays out the stats that undermine the bluepill mantras. Like debunking the wage gap, or racial violence, or the prevalence of sexual assault. We could make sure that it's actually sound, because our positions are founded in the truth that well done studies reveal. Could call it "Check the stats.com" or something. Make posters that just ask shit like "Where does the wage gap come from?" and then show how things actually work. The posters, and the site, wouldn't take a position; they'd literally just walk people through the truth.

ffb18d No.20

What did you have in mind? A blog? A yt channel?
I would definitely contribute, but i have no idea how to set up a website.

ffb18d No.21

>>20
Blogs take a lot of time to get off the ground and require constant supervision and updates to keep the attention of the readers.
It would be much easier to raid comment sections of popular websites and game the comment system. The top comments on popular news sites get tens of thousands of views.

4edfcb No.22

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Wrong-o. The modern person has a VERY short attention span. So to lure them in you'll need a hook. Something like "Who's REALLY behind the wage gap?" Now you've got the emotional tug. Now blast them with the reality: there is no wage gap. Lure them in expecting an answer to a 'problem', then lay out the truth. People look for things that affirm their expectations and biases. So hook them with a blue-pill tagline, then dump them with red.

I know Molyneux isn't popular (for a number of valid reasons) but this is a good example of what I mean. Short, to the point, with sources (and a detail explanation) available for those who want it.

433475 No.23

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>>22
That is a good point. There a lot more blue-pilled drones than red-pilled people.
When you address people who already agree with you are preaching to the choir, which is also important, but
you need a congregation in the first place to be able to do that.

So the number one issue would be to get the drones to swallow the red pill.
They need to thirst for the truth first, otherwise nothing you say will resonate with them.
/quote/ related

433475 No.24

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>>23
A good approach to red-pill people is to show them how they are getting screwed and more importantly how it would benefit them personally to abandon and oppose left-wing lunacy and adopt an accurate view of the world as well as sound, mature ethical principles.

There also needs to be work done on developing character. We can't have a successful movement, let alone a successful civilization with people who are mentally still children and exhibit primarily adolescent and sometimes even pre-adolescent behavior.

I also think that it is important for organizations and individuals to focus on single issues to minimize opposition and maximize support. When you attack everything from the federal reserve to marxists, to third wave feminism, you make a lot of enemies and what is even worse is that you repel many people who may agree with you on most things, but violently disagree with you on one issue may stop listening to youhen stop listening to you, to avoid cognitive dissonance.

Focus on one or two topics or if you there's not enough of an audience, focus on issues that are similar, so that your audience won't have to do a mental 180 every time they listen to you. I think this is one of the challenges for Molyneux.

I make an effort to abandon inferior ideas as soon as i encounter superior ones, but most people have a lot sentimental feelings for the nonsense they believe in and resist external as well as internal change.

Overall my thoughts on the subject are not well developed, that's why i posted here.

41b8ee No.28

>>19
Decentralization is one of the biggest advantages of the redpill "movement". I would suggest that, if websites for the public view are to be made, that multiple sites are made keyed to different issues eg., "wagegaptruth.com", "factsaboutrace.org", or "nofaultdivorcekills.net", with as little public connection between them as possible. This means that critics will have to engage each site individually instead of knocking one site down by saying something like "The whole Checkthestats network uses faulty methodologies".

This would also keep the audience focused on their one issue of interest without seeing "Why Hitler Did Nothing Wrong" in the sidebar or whatever and reflexively closing the site tab.


>>23
"Make people thirst for truth"
I think this is a cultural issue that can't easily be solved with charts or posts or 85-second videos. I think you can slowly redpill a friend or family member over the course of weeks or months, but without knowing how to tailor your message to a co-worker or acquaintance you won't be able to hit them at the point of greatest impact. My impression is that the best route for this through any avenue they are earnestly invested in. A lot of blue-pilled people are cynics who are afraid of being taken for a fool and that keeps them from taking risks like the red pill. Show them how the blue pill stunts or destroys something they are earnest about and that forces them to choose between the thing they love and the blue pill. Some will still choose the blue pill at this point though, and I would regard them as a lost cause. Those that don't, however, will be more open to the idea that the blue pill is destroying other industries or parts of life. Gamergate is an example of this phenomenon in gaming, and you can find a good number of previously plugged-in people who have been shocked awake by having to choose games over their blue pill programming.

tldr - redpill someone in one area, and they'll seeks out ways to redpill themselves in other areas. It's all about finding that first point of entry to get the red pill in.

7c0672 No.29

>>28
I'm not an expert on internet marketing, but having multiple sites dillutes your advertising power. Having four sites instead of one, means that you have to spend four times as much time and money on getting people to visit it.

7c0672 No.30

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>>28
> Some will still choose the blue pill at this point though, and I would regard them as a lost cause.
Yeah, don't waste your time on people who are not ready to be unplugged.
Make a cost/benefit analysis and see if it is even worth your time to make an effort to redpill someone.
Most people, as you have said are a lost cause and not worth arguing with.
Identifying the people who can be unlocked, unplugged early on is crucial.
You may be able to talk to 30 people in the same amount of time it takes to redpill a single difficult case.
Go for the low hanging fruit, but make an exception for the people around you, friends and family. You don't want to constantly explain yourself to the people who are around you. I can't describe in words how relaxing and comforting it is to be around like minded people who think like you and are on the same path. Home sweet home.

41b8ee No.31

>>29
I'm not an internet marketing expert either. My strategic suggestions are based on the premise that the audience for messages we put out at this stage won't require much convincing to get them to investigate, and the larger problem lies in fighting disqualification attempts from entrenched media. It's very possible that this premise is wrong and we need to be more concerned with our message getting lost in the noise instead.

This might be a question of who our current target audience is. Are we targeting crypto-redpills who are looking for a place to get share their beliefs, get educated and don't require much convincing? Or are we targeting people who are holding on to the blue pill and have to be compelled by overwhelming, unignorable evidence? Or to put it differently, are we running up the flag to attract people who are already interested in the red pill but haven't had the opportunity to investigate, or are we telling uninterested people why they should be interested?

>>30
>I can't describe in words how relaxing and comforting it is to be around like minded people who think like you and are on the same path.

I agree, and I think there are many who feel the same way but don't have an acceptable venue or group of friends to discuss these things with.

8f28f4 No.32

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>>31

Social Networking & Low hanging fruit all the way. There are two benefits:
1. You reach more people in a smaller amount of time.
2. The snowball effect is sped up.

Let's look at it this way: What is the ideal /pol/ guy?

1. He's a VIP, smart and eloquent, someone others look up to, a born leader.
2. He has a following on his own youtube channel, a massive following on twitter, his own tv show
3. He is a billionaire

I can think of even more extreme fantasy examples (media mogul, etc), but you get the idea.
If we can reach people who are already connected we get a snowball (viral) effect that has the potential to reach everyone on the planet.
if christians can do it, we can do it.
Everyone in the world should be able to recognize the difference between an upstanding person and Hillary Clinton
Everyone in the world should be able to tell the difference between art and trash. We want this movement to go viral.

The large corporations recognize the importance of "celebrities" and the power they have. That's why they get them to wear and advertise their products as well as their social engineering agendas.
We want to do the same thing, we want to reach celebrities, and if we can't do that, we want to reach people with youtube channels, with blogs, anyone who is connected, because getting one blogger with 10k followers is worth much more than recruiting another neckbeard without a facebook page, without a yt channel, without a twitter account and without a blog.

Everyone who reads this should also strive to move up the social networking ladder and become a leader.

4b2b79 No.36

>>24

I understand what you mean, but shift illogical people with logic is gonna be hard. I think we might need to find clever ways of appealing to their knee-jerk reactions and values. I think Hitler once said "I use emotion for the many; I reserve reason for the few."

>>28

I see what you mean with decentralizing the info. I think this is probably best , since that makes the agenda less obvious, and if some accepts just the one that they're most interested in, then they have crossed that mental threshold of "but that's not PC", and will be more primed for others.

>>29

I'm sure it will be harder to make people accept the whole red pill with multiple sites, but it also mitigates people's knee-jerk rejection of the whole thing if the red pill on one issue is too hard to swallow right then. I think this will have to be a campaign of logical attrition, not a blitzkrieg.

3d523c No.39

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>>36
First we have to get people's curiosity, then their attention and then win their approval.
But step one and two are critical, because people can only choose things that they are aware of,
it's impossible for them to choose to the truth (the infamous red pill) on their own, since they are not aware of it.
The truth is all around them, but they aren't paying attention, nobody has pointed it out and that makes it impossible for them to perceive it.
We have to present an alternative that they can pick & choose. If we are not perceived as an option, we will never get picked.


>I'm sure it will be harder to make people accept the whole red pill with multiple sites

We are not a centralized movement, so anything we do will probably not be particularly centralized either.
The first step is not how to redpill the drones, but how to get the people who are already redpilled to act.
How do we get them to act efficiently and not waste their time on a crusade that goes nowhere?
So i think the first order is make the people who are awake aware of the need to educate themselves and take action, individually or in groups.

Knowing is half the battle. The other half is taking action

3d523c No.40

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There's a magnificent opportunity coming up.
The 2016 presidential election
More people will pay attention to politics in the weeks and months leading up to the election than
have been paying attention for the last 4 years.
This is a great opportunity and one of the reasons why we need to become better communicators
Ron Paul created a huge movement from scratch, just because people paid attention to him.
He could not have done it without the presidential elections, because he deals political issues,
and nobody pays attention to politics outside of the presidential elections.
/pol/'s popularity skyrocketed during the presidential campaigns and traffic increased by a couple hundred percentage points.
At the same time we were invaded by supporters of candidates, paid campaign operatives, DNC & white house shills, campaign volunteers, etc.
Let's talk and learn about strategies, on how to communicate, how to spot shills, how to counter them, how to take control over comment sections, how to viral news stories, etc.
We're not going to get such an opportunity (and such challenges) again until 2020. Let's make the best of it.

c304a2 No.51

>>40

Ok, how do we use the election? Obviously if we just go full /pol/, everyone will think we're tin foil hat loonies.

I've been thinking for quite some time that a candidate/party that pushed, above all else, a restoration of constitutional freedom might do well. I'd suggest that they also support the other issues that most people agree on (better schools, less war, etc). I think a strongly center party that eschews social issues and economic dogma for real stuff like the government spying on us might do well. Maybe this isn't really useful,but i was just thinking about how the priorities of the average voter align with the average /pol/ack's, and I thought that maybe those issues could be an avenue for interrogating what people's de facto priorities are.

c304a2 No.52

>>39

I think most people will be drawn to something just naturally. Whatever brought them to our disreputable corner of the internet will be a good thing for them to get involved with. By making tailor-made sites for the red-pill side of a given issue, we will enhance the degree to which they can share our site on more bule-pilled forums without asking everyone to put on their tinfoil hats, and it lets them contribute info and time towards shit they actually care about.

Being decentralized lets each issue move towards the middle, availing it of the most passionate and palatable support out there. If an issue is only supported by indolent stromweenies, then it probably is dumb as all fuck anyway.

3d07b5 No.54

>>51
I think we need to use / develop something similar to megaphone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone_desktop_tool
"The Megaphone desktop tool was a Windows "action alert" tool developed by Give Israel Your United Support (GIYUS) and distributed by World Union of Jewish Students, World Jewish Congress, The Jewish Agency for Israel, World Zionist Organization, StandWithUs, Hasbara fellowships, HonestReporting, and other pro-Israel public relations organizations. The tool was released in July during the 2006 Lebanon War. By June 2011, the tool became no longer available through the GIYUS website."

Megaphone was extremely effective during the 2008 presidential campaign and israeli students and all kinds of israel first shills used it successfully to game
comment sections, bury and upvote reddit & digg stories, etc.
I think a sticky of some sort would accomplish the same thing.
We also have to get comfortable with the idea of invasions.
Create an account with a throwaway email. Raid a forum. Post pictures, post comments, etc.

We could use names or variations of names that would make it possible for us to recognize each other in comment sections
(comment sections are huge) I don't have a link in front of me, but every other visitor reads at least the top comment and every 4th visitor or so
reads a handful of comments. We could easily reach millions of people, simply by making sure that we have the top comment on various websites.


We're not a very large community yet, and so we have to work together and concentrate our efforts on the specific tasks and objectives.

63aa41 No.56

bumping for interest

b6483c No.58

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>>52
Unsigned Infographics or Webcomics would be a good /strat/ to get the word out.
That way the shills have nothing to attack and the drones have to use their own judgement whether it is useful information or not.
Infographic and memes can spread like wildfire on forums, facebook pages, rabbit, etc.

Just think of the impact of the Happy Merchant, or Ben Garrison's March of tyranny / March of the merchant.
Millions of people have seen them even though they've never ever been to /pol/ and would leave immediately never to return.

We also need create more memes. The factual falcon sucks, that anti-weed know-it-all guy sucks, A. Wyatt Mann has no potential outside of /pol/, The happy merchant has run its course, etc.
We need new memes that have the potential to go viral or are at least attrractive enough to be reposted on other websites.

41b8ee No.60

>>58
>Unsigned Infographics or Webcomics would be a good /strat/ to get the word out.
>That way the shills have nothing to attack and the drones have to use their own judgement whether it is useful information or not.
>Infographic and memes can spread like wildfire on forums, facebook pages, rabbit, etc.

I think this avenue is promising, and I think a key element is reminding the audience that an argument stands or falls on its own merits rather than depending on who says it. This maximizes the effect of the anonymous argument and prevents shills from discrediting the argument's source.

For those who care about who is making the argument, I think a good stealth mechanism is, at the top of an infographic, quoting bluepill spokesmen like Neill Degrasse Tyson saying "The great thing about science is that it's true whether you believe it or not." or something along those lines. We really want actual quotations for those, rather than fabrications, to retain audience trust in the rest of the infographic. The idea is to co-opt the reputation of the blue pill while retaining the content of the red pill.

This would have the initial effect of cloaking the infographic in a safe blue-pill shell (because reddit types love people like NDT, or Bill Nye or whoever), softening them up for the actual redpill message, and potentially a deeper long-term impact of severing the audience from the blue pill consensus-herd due to cognitive dissonance.

I think finding excerpts from "safe" popular bluepill celebrities and using them as wrapping on our own messages (so long as they fit the infographic) kills a lot of birds with one stone:
1. Keep audience from reflexively tuning out right away
2. Make audience realize that reality is independent of hugbox consensus
3. Potentially drive a wedge between bluepill spokesmen like NDT and bluepill masses by associating said spokesmen with redpill memes about the wage gap or whatever. Audiences may not be willing to take stuff NDT says at face value anymore until they've done their own research, which is basically a win for us. Just getting people to do their own research and make their own decisions is a win for us, because it will get them in the habit of thinking independently.

Again, note that this tactic is primarily about co-opting the reputation of blue pill spokesmen for our red pill content, not about destroying the reputation of blue pill spokesmen.

It might be useful to scan bluepill subreddits for memes we can co-opt, since they'll already have audience recognition we can exploit.

tl,dr: co-opt bluepill memes as a spoonful of sugar to help the red pill go down. Obviously, if this can't be done without compromising the red pill message, it loses all value as a tactic and should not be employed. YMMV

>>58
>We need new memes that have the potential to go viral or are at least attrractive enough to be reposted on other websites.

If we're targeting text-only comment sections, the memes we create will obviously need to be text-only, like Heartiste's "Diversity = hunting down the last white person". Appropriately seeded in top comments like >>54 suggested, these will be what sticks in the reader's mind even if the rest of the comment doesn't.

94a94d No.64

>>19
>We should start a site which clearly lays out the stats that undermine the bluepill mantras. Like debunking the wage gap, or racial violence, or the prevalence of sexual assault.
I started a debunking collection: >>>/strat/61

186c6d No.79

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>>60
>It might be useful to scan bluepill subreddits for memes we can co-opt

186c6d No.80

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590697 No.86

>>79
>>80

Good idea.

I was also thinking that for right now Mr. Bones could serve as a stand in for what /pol/acks call ZOG or NWO. I mean, it's intuitive and if any of us can draw worth a darn, we could make him visually appealing. I think using Satan or whatever's kinda comes off as trite, but a fun little cartoon skellington might draw folk's attention.

50afa6 No.107

>>60
>For those who care about who is making the argument, I think a good stealth mechanism is, at the top of an infographic, quoting bluepill spokesmen like Neill Degrasse Tyson saying "The great thing about science is that it's true whether you believe it or not." or something along those lines. We really want actual quotations for those, rather than fabrications, to retain audience trust in the rest of the infographic. The idea is to co-opt the reputation of the blue pill while retaining the content of the red pill.
I like this idea a lot.

I'm going to go look for co-optable quotes from mainstream voices.

7b5a0b No.123

>>107

I bet a lot of earlier leaders lean more towards red-pill stuff. I'll read through what I can on Lincoln and maybe the revolutionaries to see what I can find.

409087 No.125

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>>79
>>80
>>86
Humor can penetrate politically incorrect subjects that are otherwise off-limits.
pic related.

a579d6 No.159

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When it comes to image memes we should remember that good propaganda is simple.
A picture says more than a thousand words and the text that accompanies it is essential to the meme, but not essential for slipping in a program.
A cute girl is always cute and the message of a cute girl is always "girls are cute" even if the meme text says "Oh God How Did This Get Here I Am Not Good With Computer"

c71b9f No.165

>>159

Could you elaborate? I'm not quite sure what you mean.

0f7d0a No.168

>>165
i posted my reply in the memeology thread. >>167

c71b9f No.171

>>168

Thanks!

8efef3 No.184

>>28
I've been cynical since I was very young. It's the foundation for refusing to believe lies. What happened for me over time was that more and more lies were revealed. It's a factual matter. Even if the truth isn't really apparent, the given narrative is rejected as a lie, which is a good beginning.



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