/suicide/ - Suicide Tips & Tricks

>>45855

>>>/k/ 3D printed gun

>>45822

From Dignified Dying 2006 (page 85);

We are informed by reliable sources that it is common practice for patients to take anti-emetic medications only 1 hour prior to swallowing the barbiturate. In Chapter 2.2.8 we recommend that one begins using anti-emetics at least 36 hours before carrying out a humane self-chosen death.

Regurgitation has been reported in 12 (5%) of the 246 cases. wozz believes this complication would be reduced with an earlier start ofthe use ofanti-emetic medication.

However, they changed to 24 hours in the dutch 2008 edition of Dignified Dying (page 107 - I translate);

It seems that patients usually take an anti-emetic agent just one hour before taking the barbiturates. We advise you to start at least 24 hours in advance. Regurgitation with the patient was reported in 12 (5%) of the 246 cases. Possibly this would occur less frequently if an anti-emetic agent was to be started earlier.

>>45850

Ben was arrested on his second attempt. He was trying to fix his mess.

>>39133

>in my culture, mental illness isn't taken seriously

In every culture! The Western culture just make it seems like they actually give a fuck, they just exploit for money like all this shit drugs and those pretentious psychotherapists fucks who'd like to think their membo jumbu is worthwhile as exact science.

>>34439

so much this

>>39133

>>39143

you can set up a dead man's switch mail that pings you a few month or so.

once you stopped checking in, your last words goes out.

less hassles than physical mail.

Dude, you're dead. Who cares? It's not like you're gonna shame yourself any more or your family. You're fucking dead bro! too many religious idiots, too many people with feelings, there is just too much care in this world

>>34439

too true

>>45802

Same, I fantasise about armed robbers or terrorists doing the work for me

>>45802

>>45806

Live in the USA? Call 911 and say there's a gunman, and describe yourself. When the cops show up, come out with a deadly weapon or passable facsimile and charge them. They will kill you.

Like others, I can't bring myself to do it. The fear of surviving and ending up a vegetable terrifies me.

>>45811

>They will kill you.

More likely anon will wake up in a hospital with some bullet woulds on his arm.

Well I assume whoever has really useful tips tried them out and… they are gone now?

Same here do, just afraid I will fuck it up, and also the pain ;_;

>>45836

Hey, I just emailed you.

>>45840

Wisconsin, but I’d be willing to travel.

>>45847

bedlam1247@protonmail.com

I can't promise anything – it's possible I'm having another temporary breakdown – but here's my email.

>>44936

This isnt a dating app retard, if you cant get a girl to talk to you guess what?

>>45614

They meant previous charcoal threads:

h ttps://8ch.net/suicide/res/4543.html [archive. fo/Dn8xG]

h ttps://8ch.net/suicide/res/36746.html [archive. fo/nU3AZ]

h ttps://8ch.net/suicide/res/43663.html [archive. fo/FDHPN]

They still report it:

h ttps://www.ettoday.net/news/20181031/1294988.htm [archive. fo/6cYVj]

h ttps://www.ettoday.net/news/20181102/1296891.htm [archive. fo/LMXzq]

h ttps://www.ettoday.net/news/20181127/1316731.htm [archive. fo/jLz4k]

h ttps://www.ettoday.net/news/20181128/1317986.htm [archive. fo/rDTON]

h ttps://www.mirrormedia.mg/story/20181101soc009/ [archive. fo/7GQNZ]

h ttps://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/cnnews/20181118/bkn-20181118105222992-1118_00952_001.html [archive. fo/UzswX]

h ttps://www.chinapress.com.my/20181120/%E4%BC%A0%E7%9F%AD%E8%AE%AF%E5%90%91%E4%BA%B2%E5%8F%8B%E5%91%8A%E5%88%AB-%E5%8D%8E%E9%9D%92%E7%83%A7%E7%82%AD%E8%87%AA%E6%9D%80/?variant=zh-hant [archive. fo/Q8Kqw]

h ttp://www.singtao.ca/toronto/3567167/2018-11-21/post-%E5%90%91%E5%90%8C%E4%BA%8B%E7%99%BC%E6%AD%BB%E4%BA%A1%E8%A8%8A%E6%81%AF-%E8%8D%83%E7%81%A3%E5%A5%B3%E5%AD%90%E7%87%92%E7%82%AD%E7%8D%B2%E6%95%91%E9%80%81%E9%99%A2/ [archive. fo/lZnTl]

Is the chimney starter necessary to do the method inside a car?Why?

>>45695

>Is the chimney starter necessary

>google: why use chimney starter

no

>>45613

that id

Alright, I'm planning to anhero in a tiny bathroom, a pretty cramped one with only a toilet and a tiny sink with just enough space for the bucket of coal. How will I prevent my family from getting poisoned by the carbon monoxide when they discover my corpse?

>>45558

Fuck. I have to do it without anti-emetic. Hope it still works.

Any sources in Europe ? It seems it's almost unavailable. Regulated.

I am going to take 5g in water. I do not have access to an anti emetic. I need to know if it will still work.

>>45812

It's easy to get primperan or buccastem. This method most likely works without anti-emetic, but you'll vomit it. Because of vomiting, SA poses dangers to first responders, should you not put up warning signs. Vomiting increases time of death, though unconsciousness happens before death. At least if you don't have access to anti-emetic, prepare a second dose of SA to use it after puking some of the first dose. These victims hadn't taken anti-emetic:

>27-year-old female laboratory assistant

>15g SA

>about 11g were still found in the stomach contents

>24-year-old man

>some grams

>died 40 min later after oral intake

Suizid mit Natriumazid

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF00200470

>>45837

What do you mean "easy to get". I have no money and the only way I could get an anti emetic would be to go to urgent care and tell them I have x affliction that requires an anti emetic.

There will be no first responders, I'm going to the woods or whatever, far away from people. Should my second dose be bigger or smaller than the first one? I have a scale and 100g of SA so I can make any size dose in any quantity. I plan on putting them into little bottles and putting them in a backpack.

>>45789

Thanks a bunch! This is really useful information. I learned I need a lot more Dihydrocodeine thanks to you. I'm a complete ametuer when it comes to this method so, is it better to take the pills (dihydrocodeine and diazepam) first then start chugging the alcohol or the other way around? Or does it not matter as long as they end up in the same place? Also do I take the antiemetic before or after I've consumed everything?

>>45792

PO: take your anti-emetics first. drink some wine. an hour later take dihydrocodeine and diazepam while drinking leisurely. don't chug down the alcohol.

it does matter to take anti-emetics first because dihydrocodeine induces vomiting. alcohol just increases the effect of the drugs you're taking.

>>45792

>>45796

I looked up prochlorperazine peak-time. It was 2–4 hours. Maybe it'd be better if he takes the rest of his drugs 2 hours after taking Buccastem M.

>>45848

this will work, do it.

Hydrogen sulfide is thought to lead to death by inhibiting cytochrome oxidase, similar to cyanide. Deaths caused by H2S are traditionally related to accidental exposure. They are often associated with exposure to ‘‘sewer gas,’’ which is made up of H2S, methane, and carbon dioxide. Hydrogen sulfide is most well known for its characteristic ‘‘rotten eggs’’ smell, which is detectable in concentrations as low as 0.3 ppm. 10 These low levels that give an olfactory warning are generally not fatal. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration limits exposure to 20 ppm with a 50-ppm 10-minute peak permitted once during an 8-hour period. Levels high enough to cause harm may not give the ‘‘rotten eggs’’ olfactory warning because olfactory nerve paralysis occurs around 150 ppm. 10 Levels of 700 to 900 ppm lead to central respiratory paralysis, and beyond 1000 ppm, H2S causes nearly instantaneous respiratory paralysis and coma.

Common autopsy findings are nonspecific and include conjunctivitis and scleritis along with evidence of respiratory irritation. Pulmonary edema occurs at levels of 300 ppm and may be the only clue in cases of substantial exposure (91000 ppm). Hydrogen sulfide poisoning may present with nonspecific findings such as greenish discoloration of the cerebral gray matter and ‘‘cherry-red’’ or pink lividity. Less common autopsy findings may be exhibited such as hemorrhagic pulmonary edema, visceral congestion, bronchial secretions, and scattered petechiae.

Toxicologic analysis for thiosulfate confirms the diagnosis. Exogenous sulfide is partially oxidized by both hemoglobin and liver enzymes to thiosulfate.

In summary, suicide with H2S appears to be increasing in the United States. Its use may further increase as it gains more national media attention. Rescue and forensic personnel should use appropriate safety measures when dealing with suspected H2S death scenes because it is toxic, flammable, and potentially explosive. Dissemination of information regarding this relatively new suicide modality to these individuals and others (eg, suicide prevention agencies) is strongly encouraged. Because autopsy findings of H2S poisoning are nonspecific, scene investigation may be critical to the diagnosis. Elevated levels of thiosulfate establish the diagnosis.

Suicide With Hydrogen SulfPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>45432

ht tps://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3117605/

Suicide Fads: Frequency and Characteristics of Hydrogen Sulfide Suicides in the United States

>Hydrogen Sulfide:At 1,000 ppm, victims immediately suffer cardiopulmonary arrest.

>Hydrogen Cyanide: Inhalation of 270 ppm is immediately fatal.

Chemical Suicides: The Risk to Emergency Responders

ht tps://chemm.nlm.nih.gov/chemicalsuicide.htm

>>45670

>https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3117605/

>https://chemm.nlm.nih.gov/chemicalsuicide.htm

I read those articles today. Thanks!

https://web.archive.org/web/20181214111121/http://www.npstc.org/documents/H2S%20Report%20for%204112.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20181214111252/http://www.dhses.ny.gov/ofpc/publications/documents/chemsuicides.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20181214111610/https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/eada/47fa353e5cdf459020a88300cadb37c79771.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20181214111815/https://www.utdallas.edu/ehs/download/Have_an_Exit_Strategy_for_Students_14_Chemical_Suicides.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20181214112224/https://www.nj.gov/dca/divisions/dfs/alerts/safety_alerts/safety_alert_10-1_chemical_suicides.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20181214112315/http://www.broward.org/BrowardEMS/Documents/HM88ChroniclesAug2013Issue3.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20181214113003/http://www.vdh.virginia.gov/content/uploads/sites/23/2016/06/Summer2011.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20181214114758/https://www.usfa.fema.gov/operations/infograms/052418.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>45831

Sounds like Sodium Azide stories.

ht tps://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/19/us/19chemical.html [archive. fo/Alhhy]

ht tp://tkolb.net/tra_sch/Suicide/SuicideChemicles.html [archive. fo/rHf7E]

ht tps://www.sohu.com/a/200916345_474092 [archive. fo/brSOx]

ht tp://japan.people.com.cn/n1/2017/1101/c35421-29620864.html [archive. fo/kPPUM]

ht tps://news.tvbs.com.tw/local/87959 [archive. fo/q5NYW]

ht tps://www.ettoday.net/dalemon/post/15207 [archive. fo/e04IB]

ht tps://tw.appledaily.com/headline/daily/20090313/31463095/ [archive. fo/sSoVY]

ht tps://tw.news.appledaily.com/international/daily/20080425/30485587/ [archive. fo/hQkGk]

ht tps://westjem.com/articles/suicide-fads-frequency-and-characteristics-of-hydrogen-sulfide-suicides-in-the-united-states.html [archive. fo/9Dwop]

>>45726

So SN does make you fall asleep.

>>45736

15 g.

>>45739

>fail

If you follow the recipe, which is available on the PPeH, you won't fail. None of the victims had taken anti-emetic (dopamine antagonists). Here is a short and simple version of the recipe:

Fast 4 hours to empty your stomach and take 30mg (or 40mg if you're worried) metoclopramide (primperan) 1 hour before drinking SN. You could take 800mg tagamet with metoclopramide (or any sedative or hypnotic drugs). Dissolved 15g SN (or 20g if you're worried) in 100ml water and drink it. Unconscious happens in ~10 min and death in ~1 hour. Try not to be found for at least 2 hours.

You can take up to 60mg metoclopramide without issues, yet don't try more than 800mg cimetidine. As a substitute for cimetidine, you could take ~200mg ranitidine (e.g., take 3*75mg=225mg ranitidine).

>do I call 911 or do I try again the next day?

If you call for help after drinking SN you'd be rescued and hospitalized for several days. SN has antidote and the chances of injury is slim—should you immediately call for help. However, I strongly advise you to think through and to be completely certain that you want to CTB.

>how many days should I wait before trying again?

You can attempt as soon as you want. But I'm not certain why you are thinking about failing, calling 911, and trying it again. If you feel that you unconsciously might do a mistake that results in failing, don't attempt suicide. And even if you thought CTB was a heedless act or you changed your mind the moment after drinking SN, you still have time to reverse it.

None of the victims Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Can I use Omeprazol or Pantoprazol as well? I've heard they're much better than Cimetidine and Ranitidine.

>>45815

No. This is a terrible idea. Do not use omeprazol, pantoprazol, esomeprazole, or anything that ends with prazole for SN method—especially weeks in advance to CTB. Stop taking PPIs at least 2 weeks prior to CTB with SN. If you substitute proton-pump inhibitors (PPIs) for histamin H2 antagonists, you won't fall asleep, unless you take benzos.

Just like anti-emetic that you must use D2 receptor antagonists, you only may use histamine H2 antagonists for acid reducer (e.g., cimetidine, ranitidine) that ends with tideen. Don't bother with acid reducer if you don't have access to the right type.

And don't forget fasting to decrease gastric pH.

>The blood pressure–lowering effect of orally ingested nitrite was abolished when test persons were pretreated with a proton pump inhibitor (PPI) to raise gastric pH.

>Conversely, when nitrite was intravenously administrated, no changes on blood pressure were observed despite reaching the same plasma levels as when ingested orally.

>The mechanism for this is unknown but has been suggested to involve a reduced vascular bioavailability of NO.

>We here show that the blood pressure–lowering effect of ingested inorganic nitrite is blocked by pretreatment with a PPI, which may offer a plausible mechanism behind some negative cardiovascular effects of PPIs.

>These results also place the acidic gastric milieu center stage in the nitrate–nitrite–NO pathway, demonstrating that bioactivation of the nitrite anion to elicit a reduction in blood pressure requires an acidic gastric lumen.

Blood Pressure-Lowering effect of orally ingested nitrite is abolished by a proton pump inhibitor

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27802417

>Overview of Nitric Oxide (NO) Metabolism in Humans

Commentary on “The blood pressure-lowering effect of orally ingested nitrite is abolished by a prPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Also, you may use antioxidants (e.g., acetaminophen) to promote nitrite reduction to NO.

>Conversely, TEMPOL enhanced the dose-dependent hypotensive responses to orally administered nitrite, and this effect was associated with higher increases in plasma nitrite and lower increases in plasma nitrate concentrations.

>Our results showed that TEMPOL promotes nitrite reduction to NO in the stomach and enhanced plasma nitrite concentrations and the hypotensive effects of oral sodium nitrite through mechanisms critically dependent on gastric pH.

>Interestingly, the effects of TEMPOL on nitrite-mediated hypotension cannot be explained by increased NO formation in the stomach alone, but rather appear more directly related to increased plasma nitrite levels and reduced nitrate levels during TEMPOL treatment.

>This may relate to enhanced nitrite uptake or reduced nitrate formation from NO or nitrite.

TEMPOL enhances the antihypertensive effects of sodium nitrite by mechanisms facilitating nitrite-derived gastric nitric oxide formation

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23892053

Acute blood pressure-lowering effect of nitrite requires an acidic gastric environment. You're advised to fast 4–8 hours prior to drinking SN for two main reasons: 1) to not mix SN with food, and 2) to increase stomach acidity.

Except methylene blue, none of the drugs reduce the effect of methemoglobinemia, though anti-acid drugs reduce desired hypertensive effect of SN method. One dose of 800mg cimetidine (or ~200mg ranitidine) is not going to increase gastric pH so much when you have fasted 8 hours, but sodium bicarbonate and PPIs do so.

If you, trying to be innovative, pick up the wrong drugs without knowing what you're doing, you'd either fail or suffer until you die. Unless you've done proper research, don't follow new instructions or methods—even from PPeH. Read this thread from the beginning; everything you need to know has been discussed here.

Is this a good schedule?

day 1,2,3

-take 20mg meto every 8h

day 4

-20 minutes after the last 20mg meto dose(day 3) take 800mg tagamet

-40min after tagamet take 15g SN

Does it matter the body position after taking SN, lying in bed vs seated on a chair(possibility of falling to the floor making noise and be rescued)?

Is there any way to test if the plastic bucket that I'm going to use is okay to use or not?

I've read about the PP Stamp, but the bucket that I have has nothing stamped at the bottom.

>>44084

Tilt it and prop it up then put a spoon of each acid in so they run to the low point and settle.

Leave them for hours. Wash out and poke the bucket to see if it's gone soft. Do it outside.

1. Can I smoke weed while I'm sitting in my car waiting? I use a dab pen, not a blunt or anything

2. I have 2 whole pills for insomnia (dosage is only half a pill), and I know it probably won't matter but I just want to make sure this won't stop the CO from killing me somehow?

3. Do I have to wait outside the car while the CO builds up? Or can I mix everything together and sit in there with it while it fills?

4. Can I have my car on? I want to listen to music, but I don't know if the CO will leak out or something. I drive a 2005 Honda Accord (2 door)

5. Can someone explain in simple terms how the mixing process works, and where I can get the acids from? Everything here is jumbled and kinda confusing. I live in Louisiana (USA)

>>45192

1. I wouldn't. CO is explosive at higher concentrations, which you can supposedly achieve with this method. Even the pen has to have some ignition mechanism.

2. They won't interfere with it, assuming they actually are sleeping pills.

3. This is debated but either way should work if done properly.

4. It's better if the car is off. There might be some ventilation that you can't manually turn off. Just listen to the music on your phone or something.

5. Afaik you first pour the sulfuric into a suitable container, then slowly pour in the formic. You'll have to check websites or local stores but these acids aren't tightly regulated.

https://web.archive.org/web/20181214113842/https://www.thename.org/assets/2018Handouts/2.6%20-%20Kreutz,%20Kasey.pdf

>>43652

>beta faggot

You retards are the ones being thirsty as fuck. Go kiss some fat chicks ass.

>Heart disease that gets worse every day, I went through surgery 2 times and I do not think I can take it once again. I am tired of consulting several doctors without getting a positive response. I have to be realistic, I do not know how much time I have left but I know it's better to finish everything on my own.

> My spine is totally fucked up and it causes me pain every day, I have to lie down most of the time but the pain persists. Because of this I can not even hang myself.

> Various mental disorders (Extreme anxiety, depression, OCD, eating disorders, early signs of schizophrenia, and other undiagnosed disorders that I can not even describe.

> Sleeping disorders, I'm always tired.

> Illness in the eyes that makes me look like a retard.

> Live in a third world shithole.

> No friends, kissless virgin and Severe social anxiety. My lack of social skills has caused me many problems.

> Extremely ugly, have no self-esteem.

> NEET, I dropped out of High School due to my illness and my extreme social anxiety. I would only be able to get some poorly paid and extremely exhaustive work which due to my health condition would end up killing me anyways.

> Mother is the only one who works in my family, my father is sick and can not work.

>Lost all interest in the things I enjoyed (Video games, anime, music, porn, etc)

18/Male

>no job

>no gf for 8 years

>spent adult life at shit jobs that provided no skills

>few friends

>never call me first, i always call them

>never check in on me even after they found out i was admitted to a psych ward for suicide attempt that i pussied out on

>BPD

>ADHD (diagnosed with a Qeeg so none of that fake shit diagnosis that therapists hand out)

>can't afford meds for either one

>most pivotal moment in my life was brought on by drugs

>high school dropout

>college dropout

>general disdain for society but don't want to hurt people so don't ask

>too many people nowadays to move out west and start a new life innawoods

>anything i show signs of talent at i get bored with immediately

>think working your whole life so you can afford hospital bills when you're older is stupid and pointless

>whenever i start to pick myself up something comes along and knocks me down again

Age: 24

Sex: Male

>Sexually abused by grandfather since age 9.

>Forced to drop out of college and became his caregiver at age 23.

>Cared for abuser for 9 years, no vacation, outside work, or friends.

>Social worker got involved after a fall and saw that I had access to his money, didn't listen to him or any other family members.

>Got hit with 13 felonies for alleged financial exploitation.

>Any notion of a meaningful life after grandfather finally dies is over.

Bye.

So many reasons

Here are some

-crazy

-social anxiety

-retarded

-no real friends

-unattractive

-overweight

-really depressed

-virgin

-neet

-general anxiety

Congratulations! You're exactly in the right state of mind to kill yourself but you chose the wrong method.

Sucks for you :/

Good luck anyways. You'll need it.

At least jump in front of a truck.