/suicide/ - Suicide Tips & Tricks

>>10060

>>10501

already tried around 10 different darknet sites and never found what I was looking for

I have tried 2 darknet marketplaces. Evolution and Agora. Evolution had one supplier but wanted like $600 USD or something for it. I didn't have the money. Since then Evolution pulled an exit scam and no longer exists

Looking around online for nembutal suppliers I found a forum thread that advocated this guy n123n123@hushmail.com I havn't contacted him yet, I don't see much luck in it not being a scam. Someone said it was the same supplier as the Evolution seller but who knows.

I tried making friends in Mexico and asking them to get some locally and ship it to me for money. Noone will though. Only trolls say they will and never happens

Agora marketplace does not have a nembutal supplier. Also remember to search for the chemical name: Pentobarbital.

Anyone else know anywhere to get it?

>>10550

anonshop.net? Has anyone tried this one?

>>10487

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-13/hundreds-risk-jail-by-importing-illegal-euthanasia-drug/4956922

This article implies if you buy the peaceful pill handbook it contains some reliable Chinese suppliers.

>an 81 year old australian knows more about the internet black market than us

>>10565

You better have cash though, some of the prices I've seen are like $500US, before shipping.

And there's no guarantee a) it will get past customs, b) the Chinese guy won't run off with your money.

Apparently the e-handbook has to be updated several times a year, and the sellers come and go all the time. They may build up their rep for a few months by delivering, but then start scamming.

>>10580

Thanks chum.

When are you going to take it? Does having it in your possession make you feel differently?

>>10563

>clearnet

>Domain Name: ANONSHOP.NET

Registrar: GUANGDONG NAISINIKE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY CO LTD

Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 1619

Whois Server: whois.iisp.com

Referral URL: http://www.iisp.com

Name Server: ADA.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM

Name Server: FRANK.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM\

enjoy your van

How long does Nembutal take to kill?

I've heard it usually takes up to an hour. But that's too much time. I want a quicker method so I won't be able to change my mind or get caught.

>>10586

Explain how any of that results in a van.

>>10595

Puff nitrogen, you'll be unconscious within a minute

>>10582

I've been taking antiemetics for around a week now, so hopefully soon. I keep it near my bed so if I wake up feeling sufficiently crap I can just take it on a whim.

It does feel pretty good knowing that instead of going to work on Monday I can kill myself instead.

>>10605

https://www.reddit.com/user/TryAgainTimesN

I think this is the same user, but this is possibly another endorsement of johnson0

god damn that is an expensive way to go however, a shot gun is well less than $200 here in the usa

>>10639

A and J are the two most popular suppliers of N. D was a more popular source than both of them, but then pulled an exit scam. J uses Western Union, which is very risky.

>>10597

>clearnet

>cloudflare

Seems to carry everything, prices don't make any sense. If it's not LE, it's a scam.

>>10639

Not me.

>>10644

I paid him via wire transfer. Risky, but hey, I wouldn't have really given many fucks if he ran with it and I had to try someone else. Soon enough I won't have any need for money.

Anyway, it turned out okay. He even sent me an email when the delivery failed and it went to the post office.

>>10645

Alright, thanks for the heads-up. I don't bother with whois myself, and I'm pretty new/desperate regarding my current method. Drug-related methods always have to be expensive and tedious, huh?

It sucks being a jobless loser with no money and suicidal desires.

>>10650

buy street level heroin, you get it instantly, everywhere, and for whatever you have for your monthly living you can buy enough to kill yourself. After that you need no more money for living expenses, so you can simply spend whatever you have for a month and go on any first or whenever you get money

You can buy Phenobarbital (different from Nembutal but does the job) on TOR markets for cheap.

http://grams7enufi7jmdl.onion/infodesk/vendor/0x36A55B2E7C89C783

http://grams7enufi7jmdl.onion/infodesk/vendor/0xA593C29DD7225734

http://grams7enufi7jmdl.onion/infodesk/vendor/0xA3AE1A0E5BDB6844

You'll need the TOR browser to access the site.

https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en

>>10650

Buy Fentanyl, which is about as low cost as it gets:

http://8ch.net/suicide/res/11749.html

How long does Nembutal take until you are unconcious and then dead?

>>10580

Why is this not stickied?

Nembutal is the holy grail of suicide, this needs to be stickied. (unless it's not true. I don't have the money to try)

I wonder if in the US it is easier to get an order of past the internet cops than a bottle of vet nembutal the border patrol? Do dogs catch the stuff? It's not like it's a street drug…

Sorry if this is stupid.

>>12495

Not the holy grail bro. Fentanyl is the easiest to obtain and cheapest as well. Kills painlessly. You just pass out.

See: http://8ch.net/suicide/res/11749.html

>>10646

I just ordered from him.

>He even sent me an email when the delivery failed and it went to the post office.

Care to elaborate? Did it get through customs without any problem?

>>10580

Is johnson0 not a scam? I have 2012 August PPEH and Johnson0 was listed under Uncertain suppliers - Problems reported, tread carefully!

>>12660

Last edition of the Peaceful Pill eHandbook recommended him (it´s from this year).

Well, guess I´m about to find out.

>>12662

>DON'T DO IT!

I think you mean

DO IT, FAGGOT.

>>12671

how did you went about getting anti-emetics?

>>12671

how did you went about getting anti-emetics?

>>12688

I don´t think I´m going to have any problem buying anti-emetics, they are freely available in most countries.

Still waiting for the Nembutal, though.

>>12694

I thought all decent antiemetics required prescription, what antiemetic will you go for?

>>12700

Metoclopramide. Bought it today, no prescription required in my country.

>>12671

When you get it can you post a picture of how the bottle looks like? Could you also test the powder to make sure it's legit?

>>12727

Yes, I can take a picture.

I´m considering my options on how to test it. Other than Exit´s home test, everything I have seen demands laboratory equipment. Are you aware of any other option?

>>12732

Not the person you replied to, but there are no reliable way to test it aside from lab. Exit's test kit only shows if there is any type of barbiturate there.

How did the talk with merchant went? What payment methods he offer?

>>12741

It was very smooth, all the three sellers recommended by Final Exit were very upfront and replied my emails within 24 hours (usually less).

You can pay the Chinese guy via Western union and wire transfer.

>>12743

What was the price from other sellers?

Also I suppose your package will arrive soon, so have a nice journey and thanks for the info :)

>>12732

Please test and post a picture. I don't want to buy powder that turns out to be sugar or something.

>>12779

The two Mexican sellers I contacted offered one bottle for U$450 and two for U$600 (something like that- I don´t remember the exact values).

>>12811

This seller has been around a long time and Exit has been testing his stuff for years. As far as I know, all of his stuff has been the real deal.

My main concern is customs. I´m really afraid my parcel may be intercepted. That´s the reason I decided not to order it in liquid form (less likely to make it through customs).That´s also the reason I haven´t ordered Exit´s test kit - I fear it may be used against me in an investigation.

>>12826

Just to make it clear: I am going to subject the powder to the Acid Conversion Test and the Melting Point Test. It is unlikely I will use and qualitative test, though.

>>12826

Yeah I'm afraid of customs too, but unless you're in Australia you should be fine, they'll probably just give you a warning and keep your address on watch list

>>12826

alright, post pics when you get it

>>10565

Theyre helped by euthanasia activists. They know jack shit about the Internet.

>>13086

sexy <3

>>13090

More like "suspicious as fuck". I got a letter from customs and was more than a bit worried when I went to get it.

Well, that doesnt matter any longer. I´m going to test it as soon as I can get the necessary equipment.

>>13091

They probably needed your signature for package and postman felt it was too much hassle to get it to your door. Happens all the time here.

But the package totally looks like drugs

>>13104

I actually had to pay an import tax on it. Funny thing is: the seller didn´t specify what was inside, so customs just came up with a cost (based on what?).

I´m now buying the items I need to get it tested.

>>13106

Lol that's so silly. I'll be moving to country that's notorious for trying to crack down on imported goods from China by checking every parcel and charging for it, but this gives me some new hope that they'll be incompetent too.

How much was that tax?

>>13131

Something like U$10,00. You could try to ask the seller to identify the parcel as some kind of innocuous powder (I did this, maybe he just forgot).

I´m happy I dind´t try to get Nembutal in liquid form, I´m sure it would get confiscated.

>>13086

You used john zero, right?

>>13218

Exactly.

>>13086

>>13218

DO NOT TRUST JOHN ZERO!!!

I´m the buyer. I took 200 mg to test the Nembutal today.

It´s been over 2 hours now and nothing. Given that the dose for sleeping pills used to be between 100-200 mg, I should be feeling something, even if the powder was 50% pure.

Yesterday, I tried with 100 mg and felt nothing, but thought that maybe I measured the weight incorrectly or something like that.

I REPEAT, DO NOT TRUST HIM, SOB SCAMMED ME.

>>13333

Fuck off, you're not buyer, different id

>>13340

>does NOT remain constant

self fixed

>>13340

Thanks for the PSA.

>>13340

I'm calling BS. Many people used Johnson and claimed he was legit. Did you use the msn.cn address?

>>13352

>Many people used Johnson and claimed he was legit

Could have been a giant scam

>>13353

Not likely. People tested his shit and reported it was legit. There was an article in Australia about some guy CTB'ing with the stuff.

>>10641

A scary amount of people survive firearm attempts, something like 15%

Now, a shotgun is a pretty sure way, but I don't like those odds. Wouldnt dare attempt with a pistol.

Here is a good community based around the discussion of medicine based methods.

Lots of thinly veiled discussions of current Nembutal sources.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/suicide-methods-hideout

>>13357

Says I need to click on the group star to favorite and allow me to join.

I don't see the star though.

>>13352

Yes, I did.

Listen, I wouldn´t pay fucking U$450,00 for a useless powder. I know his reputation, I got his email from the PPeH.

I had little doubt I got the real deal, as I wrote here:

>>12826

Thing is, I decided to use some of the stuff to get some sleep ( I have insomnia) and, as I said here >>13333 I felt NOTHING. Absolutely nothing.

I get sleepy with half a glass of wine. I had lorazepam before and slept like a rock. This "nembutal", though? Nothing. 200 mg and I was wide awake. How can I possibly have the real deal and take 200 mg without any effect?

Now, there is always a chance Johnson scams just some customers and send real nembutal to others, so his reputation remains mostly solid. I don´t know. All I know is, I didn´t get Nembutal.

I´m going to buy the liquid stuff, at least I can see it the seal is intact and it´s way harder to fake it. Anyone here with experience buying bottles of Nembutal?

>>13360

Take a gram and report back.

>>13362

I´ve actually considered doing this. Not a gram, but half.

Really wish I lived in Australia, testing an unknown substance by ingesting it is really stupid.

>>13363

The package you recieved also looks suspicious. People said they got theirs in a plastic container with a seal on top. Are you sure you used the msn.cn address which is only legit one?

>>13364

Johnson moved away from the plastic container at least a few months ago, according to PPeH.

Yes, I already said I used the msn.cn email. It´s the real guy, I can even post his bank details here (assuming it´s allowed) to prove I contacted the right guy.

I don´t see why everybody is doubting my posts- do you really think I would set up such bullshit for more than a month? What for?

Johnson would not be the first Chinese seller to scam a seller.

Do you have access to PPEH forums? What others are saying there?

>>13368

No, I don´t. I don´t know how to get around the "only people over 50 or who can prove they have a terminal illness" policy.

I did send an email describing my experience with Johnson to Exit, but got no reply.

>>13365

>Johnson moved away from the plastic container at least a few months ago, according to PPeH.

link?

>>13370

PPeH, page 259. It doesnt specifically talks about Johnson, but says "Nembutal from China has largely been sold flat-packed", while in previous years it was in screw-top containers.

>>13371

>>13371

Can't you buy the exit test kit for 35 dollars and test to see if it's really a barb?

>>13373

Well just try half a gram and report back.

>>13376

>>13363

I did.

530 mg, to be exact. This time, I *did* feel something- a light buzz, similar to what I get drinking something like 1/2 a glass of wine.

It was not enough to actually put me to sleep - I started feeling the effects roughly 15 minutes after drinking it, and fell asleep roughly 3 hours after that. I woke up 9-10 hours after that (that´s usual for me on weekends), no after-effects.

So, yes, it´s not just some kind of inert powder- there is a very low concentration of Nembutal (or other barbiturate, or maybe even some kind of benzo).

Thing is, the concentration is very, very low. This is the effect I expected with 100 mg (or rather less than that), not 500 mg. I would guesstimate the actually concentration as bellow 20%. Maybe even as low as 10%- assuming that´s actually Nembutal.

I don´t believe it´s possible to assume the whole package is enough to actually kill someone- but I´m considering adding it to the liquid Nembutal.

BTW, nobody asked me about taste, but is bitter, as expected.

>>13377

Oh ok.

Can't you increase the potency by adding it to alcohol or something?

>>13379

I don´t know.

I mean, the bare minimum for suicide would be 6 g. Dignitas and most other places use 9-10 grams.

Johnson sent me 25 g (actually, I measured it at just a bit over 23 g). I already consumed almost 1 g, so I´m down to 22. I believe I have less than 20% purity, so less than 5 g of Nembutal, at best.

PPeH says alcohol speeds the effect, not that it increases it.

There is Dilantin (phenytoin sodium) which does increase the potency of Nembutal. I am going to research this alternative further.

that Johnson0@msn.cn bastard does not even answer my e-mails. I wrote him twice already. May be s/he is a fcuking racist does not send his product to Turkey but at least should mention that.

why is everyone so obsessed with nembutal instead of fentanyl? fent is easier to get on the dark net and it takes less to kill

>>13385

Nembutal is a very well know drug. Euthanasia groups have done a lot of research on it, and it´s qualities are well know.

Dignitas uses Nembutal.

In the Netherlands, it´s given for patients who want a peaceful death.

IIRC, it´s also an options in one or two American states.

It´s also used for capital punishment in the USA.

Exit International recommends it over other drugs (over any other method, actually).

Even Exit (UK) admits it´s a very good option, if one doesn´t take into account the fact it´s illegal and sometimes hard to find.

Literally hundreds, if not thousands, of assisted suicides/deaths have been achieved through Nembutal. It´s painless and effective. Dosage is well know.

I would like to ask you: why are so many on this board so obsessed with fentanyl? I mean, you are the third to come to the Nembutal thread to talk about fentanyl. Let me repeat: this is the Nembutal thread, and yet people keep coming here to preach about fentanyl.

I don´t know of a single euthanasia group that recommends it over other drugs. I don´t know of any organization regularly using it.

The only place I know where people go nuts over fentanyl is here.

>>13381

Weird, I´m from a third wold country too (no offense, mate), and that´s one thing I can´t complain about Johnson: he always replied to my emails within 24 hours.

Then again, I have lost faith in his powder, as I mentioned before.

>>13387

Send Johnson an e-mail. Tell him the product you got wasn't up to standard and ask him to send a replacement. Be polite and tell him that other people on this board won't order until they are confident the product is legit.

>>13391

I did send him a complain 4 days ago. He insists his product is at least 99% pure, which is obviously bullshit. Arguing with him is like arguing with a broken record.

I got nowhere with him, and, frankly, it´s not like I have any bargaining power. He is fully aware a few guys on the internet aren´t going to damage his reputation. Think about it, he could keep selling 10% pure stuff for months and he would still get buyers. Hell, he could go on for months selling some inert powder. On this very thread people are calling my posts bullshit.

I don´t know why he sent me such a low quality product. It may even be just a bad batch. Then again, a dozen Chinese guys before him stopped selling Nembutal (and probably pulled a scam in their last months of operation).

>>13394

Fair enough. I just wish there was a way to test the purity. Exit has such a test but it's 275 dollara. Fuck

>>13395

The price is actually not my main concern. Look at this: >>13373

The kit clearly says its function is to test for Barbiturates. That´s completely stupid, it´s barely better than "Cocaine testing kit". The contents are already very suspicious, why go out of your way to incriminate the customer? Even the dumbest customs official would understand something´s very wrong.

The Exit´s logo makes things even worse. Google and a couple seconds are all one needs to get what´s going on - and if the authorities have access to your credit card? Your purchase is clearly identified.

Of course, under most circumstances you can get away just denying purchasing the stuff. Problem is, your parcels are now definitely going to get extra attention from customs. Your chances of getting Nembutal (or any other drug) through would drop to zero. You may also face temporary loss of your passport, depending on your country´s laws.

As I said before, I have a plan. I am going to try and get liquid Nembutal. If I´m successful, I will post a picture and tell you how I got it.

I know it's been talked about already, but I didn't see a definite answer. With Johnson, is the packaging stealthy? Does it look like just any other package, or does it stand out in some noticeable way?

>>13397

It´s a small cardboard box with this:

>>13340

>>13086

inside. No description of what´s in the box. IIRC, the "content" field (or something similar) said only "toll".

It´s not stealthy at all, but customs are not usually looking for powdered Nembutal, dogs won´t bother with it etc.

If you are going with Johnson, do so at your own risk. You are probably going to get scammed too.

At the very least, wait some months. If it´s only a matter of a failed batch, he will sell it in the next months and (hopefully) get his shit right next time. If he is fully transitioning to scamming people, Exit will eventually figure it out.

I got 25g from Johnson over the summer. The bag looks different than your picture. It is also nondescript no labels whatsoever.

I also have some bottles from Mexico which are definitely legit. They have labels and everything.

The reason I got both was that I don't think I could handle the taste of the liquid having to drink 2 big bottles

>>13402

Did you test the powder?

>>13398

Do you have a tolerance to sedatives like benzos or alcohol?

>>13445

No, on the contrary, actually:

>>13360

Johnson´s powder is the problem.

>>13446

Damn, that's really fucked up.

Still no reply from Exit?

>>13447

Nope.

Exit didn´t reply when I asked about which kind of filter (which pore size) they used for the Acid Conversion Test (I was trying to buy the equipment locally) and didn´t reply to my email about Johnson.

My search for dilantin, on the other hand, is probably going to be successful soon.

>>13448

You won't order liquid?

I don't think that pore size matters that much, try simply with a coffee filter paper and white vinegar. Let us know the result.

Where do you plan to get dilantin?

>>13455

>You won't order liquid?

Yes, I will. I was thinking of doing the Acid Conversion Test before I actually took the Nembutal. I don´t think I have much use for that now.

>Where do you plan to get dilantin?

Local seller. Found him through image boards, ironically.

>>13457

> Yes, I will. I was thinking of doing the Acid Conversion Test before I actually took the Nembutal. I don´t think I have much use for that now.

It may still be interesting to see what ACT test will show.

You plan to order 2 bottles, right? and take dilantin with all that?

> Local seller. Found him through image boards, ironically.

Is there some thread for finding such things locally?

>>13463

>It may still be interesting to see what ACT test will show.

Too much work for nothing. The powder is either some other kind of barbiturate/benzo or very low purity. Besides, any low purity/no Nembutal result could be attributed to mine using a filter of the wrong pore size.

>You plan to order 2 bottles, right? and take dilantin with all that?

Something like that. I will have it in a month, if I´m successful, so you guys will have to wait.

>Is there some thread for finding such things locally?

Found him on a different IB, dedicated to my shithole third world country. It´s easy to find on darkmarkets, however, and the Mexican Nembutal sellers probably could get it for you too.

Now that I think about it, some guys selling steroids get it from veterinary sources, right? Maybe they could get some Nembutal too.

Btw its very easy to test the nembutal powder for its purity. You will need some usual "barbiturate uric tests" (see Amazon - nothing suspicious) and ca 5 Liter distilled water.

With the barbiturate test you know the purity of a barbiturate in a given sample. If its true nembutal you need to do the "melting point" test. Nembutal melts at 130 C - you will need a borosilicate container for 100 ml, a thermometer with at least showing 0.5 C differences up to at least 160 C, sunflower oil and a fine xxxx (don't know how its called - it is described in the PPeH) where you put the pentobarbital into (extracted from nembutal with vinegar and heated in an oven). See the PPeH.

The barbiturate uric test method is WRONG as it is described in the PPeh because when you follow it you will find a true test result every time even when a sample contains only 10%. So I've modified the test method to get goid resikts for the purity. Will post that in an separate post.

I can say that the powder from mid this year were very pure (over 90%).

My test procedure as follows:

I've received N powder end of April.

This message is to all who maybe got some powder from a different source and would like to get the chance to test its purity:

Today I managed to review the Test in the PPeH (The Dilution Purity Test). It seems that the author made a mistake in calulating the correct dosage to test for the purity of N.

These uric test stripes have a "cut-off" of 300 ng/ml - number of particles it can be measured at max in a specified volume. When a substance is 100% pure and you dissolve and dilute it until only 300 ng/ml (or 0.3 mg/Liter) is present in the water it should show a positive test result. If for example the substance is only 85% pure it should show then a negative result because there are not enough particles left in the water after the dilution process to measure. You can now calculate at which stage of the dilution process it will show you the percentage of the purity of a substance (with some little error rate because we don't own a lab and do it in out home kitchen). But the test procedure needs to be adjusted!

In the PPeH it is done this way:

Take 200 mg of the substance (here powdered N) and dilute it in 2.000 ml (2 Liter) of destilled water and measure the presence of N with an uric test stripe for barbiturates. The PPeH now instructs you to take 2 ml out of the 2.000 ml and put it into a new second bottle with new fresh distilled water and measuring again. Then take again out 2 ml of bottle two into a third bottle with again new fresh distilled water and test again. In the video in the PPeH you see test stripes for Bottle one and two showing a positive result and test stripe for bottle three having a fainted line (= negative result).

Now have a look here and calculate yourself mg/L into ng/ml:

http://www.endmemo.com/sconvert/mg_lng_ml.php

First you have 200 mg in 2.000 ml (2 Liter). So the half of that volume will only have the half of the substance which is 100mg/L - thats a number we can calulate with. On the website convert it into ng/ml which is 100.000 ng/ml. That can be clearly measured with the uric test stripe which has a "cut-off" at low 300 ng/ml.

When 200 mg are in 2.000 ml and you take out 2 ml then these 2 ml will contain 0.2 mg of the N. If you put these 0.2 mg in 2.000 ml of new fresh distilled water then there are 0.1 mg in 1 Liter (0.1 mg/L) which you can calucate into ng/ml which is 100ng/ml. Now this is below the ability to measure it with an uric test stripe so by theory in bottle two the N can't be detected! BUT: These test stripes will begin to show a negative result with a fainted line on it. And that line BEGINS at UNDER 300ng/ml. At around 200 ng/ml you can estimate that there is a line - very very very very fainted. With 100 ng/ml you can see it a bit more clearly. If you dilute it more and more the fainted line will become clearer on the stripe with each new test.

So the test procedure in the PPeH book makes sense BUT ONLY to the second bottle and ONLY to see if a substance is 99% pure - the test setup can't say anything else! The substance in the third bottle will sooooo diluted that no test stripe can ever show anything. So I'm not really sure if the author calulated the "cut-off" correctly. In the July 11th edition on Page 286 on the left side in the book it is stated:

"[..] a clear 'C' confirms that the test sample has a purity of better than 70%."

Yes, thats correct and surely is 99% better than 70%. ;-) But you CAN ONLY measure 99% purity or nothing with this setup! Don't know why he speaks about 70%…

To get better test results and to measure not only 99% purity but also 30%, 75%, 100% and 150% (to see how fine the uric test stripe reacts on negative results) I setup a new test procedure which I've tested successfully today.

My new setup was as follows:

I've put 100 mg of powdered N into 1.000 ml (1 Liter) of distilled water in bottle one. Then I took 10 ml out (containing 1 mg/L or 1.000 ng/ml) into fresh distilled water of 990 ml to get in sum 1.000 Liter in a second bottle. This can be easily measured and will show a positive line on the uric test stripe. At 1.000 ng/ml it is at least 30% pure (or more).

I then took out 400 ml (containing 0.4mg/L or 400 ng/ml) of bottle two and fill it with 600 ml of new fresh distilled water to get again 1.000 ml in a third bottle. The test stripe again showed a positive result with J's N. At 400 ng/ml it is at least 75% pure (or more).

Then I took out 500 ml (containing only 0.2 mg/L or 200 ng/ml - below the "cut-off" measuring point of the uric test stripes) into 500 ml of new fresh distilled water into bottle four. The test stripe showea very very very very very fainted "negative" line which was only visible in bright light (flashlight). To see how it reacts on only 100 ng/ml I again took 500 ml out into a new bottle with new and fresh 500 ml. Test stripe showed a bit more visible fainted "negative" line. In clear water without N the negative line is clearly visible.

This tells me the uric test stripes are very accurate and that the N Powder of J is of at least 99% purity. Combining that with the melting point test it showed that it is indeed real N because there are no other barbiturates which have a melting point of 132°C (only a thiobarbiturate has the same but that would then be yellowish and have a garlic odor - J's powder is bright white and has no such odor when dissolved - well at least it doesn't smell like garlic).

>>13486

post proofs you have j's powder

There are no proofs. Package went into trash long ago. Powder is in miron violet glass for long term storage now.

>>13532

>>13486

So either you or >>13340 is bullshitting.

Is his powder legit or not? Can you provide pics of the test proving it?

>>13540

>So either you or >>13340 (You) is bullshitting.

I´m >>13340.

That´s not necessarily true. Johnson has sold legit powder before, that´s not being questioned here. The powder he sold me, however, is either not pure or not Nembutal at all, as it would be impossible to take such huge dose >>13377 without major effects. I have explicitly made this point time after time.

Now, what´s the deal with people calling posts bullshit? Can´t we have an open discussion without people resorting to calling others a lie?

I started posting here because it was this very thread that started my interest on Nembutal. My first book on suicide was Five Last Acts, and the writer does a very good job of making it seem like Nembutal is not such a good option in practice, an opinion the Peaceful Pill eHandbook changed.

I have been posting here all of my steps since deciding to get Nembutal ( >>12540 is my first post).

Thing is, each time I write to make the same point and explain the same thing I wrote about weeks ago, I wonder why do I bother.

The guy with the massive testing posts above is the only new piece of information I got since I started posting here. I don´t see my own posts as being useful at all, as people barely read the thread.

Well, guess it´s time to leave this place for good.

I want to buy this shit, but I'm paranoid. Is customs going to fuck this up for me?

>>13544

The only way to make sure is to take all the powder you have. If you don't respond, then it obviously worked.

>>13552

> then it obviously worked

Or gave coma, or made a vegetable, or etc etc

>>13554

>give coma or made a vegetable

That's not how drugs work retard.

>>13559

Barbiturates put you in coma, if you pass out and your breathing stops for long enough you'll get brain damage, if you pass out for long enough in position that restricts blood flow to a limb, you lost it.

Go do a paracetamol overdose you shitface

>this thread

>this guy saying 'johnson sold me a dud'

Oh lordy.

As a recreational drugs user, this is pretty amusing.

Mate - some people just don't feel jackshit when it comes to benzos. They're strange drugs. I've tried a lot of benzos in my life but the only one that has ever had an effect on me at the recommended recreational dose is clonazepam, and even then that may have only been due to my emotional state at the time. Many other benzos just do nothing to me, even when taken at several times the recommended dose while I'm drunk (and if you know benzos, you know everyone says you shouldn't mix them with booze unless you want to go into blackout territory).

You might just be someone who is immune to the psychological effects of benzos and barbiturates. It does happen.

>>13565

>Barbiturates put you in coma, if you pass out and your breathing stops for long enough you'll get brain damage,

But Johnson sold him a fake, amirite? Now you're scared of trying out the powder because it might kill you?

Fuck off. You didn't even bothering testing the powder.

>>13571

Taking 100mg or 200mg and saying you felt nothing is not an indicator of the purity of the powder. Either do a proper test, or fuck off with your disinfo.

>>13571

I'm not the one who has the powder

Isn't it better to receive Nembutal from a private shipping company like FedEx,etc ?

>>13622

what difference would that make? It go through customs all the same

I tought it was diferent and safer. What if the customs hold the package and you don't go pick it up, afraid that they will catch you? They resend the package to the origin? Or the police will come to your house? Can you say "I didn't order that it must be a mistake"?

>>13386

but keep in mind that because nembutal essentially has one purpose (euthanasia), it's extremely difficult to obtain. fent is used recreationally and is therefore easier to find and cheaper. and it just so happens to be incredibly deadly. it might not be the "official gold standard," but it seems like a pretty solid option.

Has anyone had any luck getting through Australian customs?

>>13353

Exit International isn't a scam, they test his stuff in a lab all the time. Nice try.

>>13762

it's not that hard to pretend as someone who's about to suicide with Johns N on suicide boards for the purpose of promoting the name and it's not hard at all to make a paper with recommended suppliers that looks like it came from recent PPEH edition considering that new PPEH editions don't float around the net and it's hard to check for validity.

>>13333

>>13764

Google Groups alt.suicide methods hideout, there are lot of people are using, and ordering from J, someone said that isn't even the same packing J uses. That guy is just a fraud, end of.

>>10605

What type of antiemetics?

>>13780

24 mg of Zofran and 60 mg Domperidone

>>13785

That's a stat dose, must be taken within 40 minutes or so.

>>13779

This, spoke to someone who has ordered from j before and confirmed that is not the packaging he uses.

>>13785

OTC or prescription?

How long has Johnson been available? I hope he coninues doing his thing in 10 years time.

I've just sent the guy an email – been suicidal for years and my life is objectively unrepairable w/ severe mental illness and long-term unemployment. Just hoping I'm going to be able to test it properly and not fuck it all up somehow. I know someone who works on a ward with people who have 'survived' suicide attempts and I can't even begin to think of the sort of hell I'd be subjecing myself to if that happened. If anyone wants to talk here btw then I'd be up for it. Sad to see that this feels like the only way for many others here too. Liz

>>13816

hey man, i'm in the same boat. i wish there was a way to explain to other people that these aren't fleeting and/or fixable feelings. and locking us in a nuthouse would be the absolute worst thing - it's bad enough feeling trapped here in my own home, but to literally be locked in a hospital? with no way out and no hope for a future? holy shit.

i wish the best for you, truly. i hope we can find peace, somehow.

>>13816

Best of luck for you on your journey. I don't know but whenever I get ready to do it, survival instinct kicks in and can't go through with it, parents keep me chaines too.

Been suicidal and depressrd for a decade now. I have to kill myself passively by driving without a seatbelt and such.

It's likely things won't change in our lifetimes (or at all) society will make it harder and harder for you to die. I just take comfort in knowing we will all die eventually.

Peace.

Yeah I don't know if I'll be able to do it either. But it's that or stay trapped at home for the rest of my life (I'm 25). I have severe social phobia and very few people understand just how badly it cripples me. I literally see no-one day in day out and can't speak or function around others. I have no future and the world always feels so cold and harsh that I just cant take it. Never been able to adjust to it. Thank you and the same to you. L

Plus agoraphobia, panic attacks & depression. Been housebound for years. I was hospitalised as a teen for suciidal depression and yeah that was traumatic enough in itself. Doing a degree from home which is the only thing I'm living for, atm. But it's never going to get me work when I can't be out in the world and have fuck all experience. Anyway, yeah take care. He's asking why I want the drug. Guess I just spin the standard veterinary line, and he turns a blind eye. but don't know if they even use the powder form for that.

>>13821

>asks why I want the drug

Sometimes he does this. Sometimes he doesn't. If you're going to go through with it, just say it's for a terminal disease or whatnot.

>>13822

I say "for research"

Sorry, derailed the thread a bit

And thanks – yeah I replied with something similar. Haven't checked to see if he's responded yet.

>>13825

>>13779

Oh, and forgot to mention, the most recent PPeH is updated in that Google Group…virtually every month by a member within. So yes, Johnson is still considered reliable. Again, nice try.

I live with other people. If I don't happen to see it arrive and my name isn't on it, it's going to get opened by someone else. Should I ask to have my name written on the package?

Anyone else have this problem?

Does Johnson put an inconspicuous label name on the shipping envelope or on the mylar pouch that wouldn't get suspected by customs?

>>13779

How do you get access to that group?

>>13834

Apply for access using an email through google+ and a moderator will approve you. User "Joyride" typically updates the PPeH monthly.

>>13838

I sign in with my account and it says

You must be a member of this group to view and participate in it.

You cannot view this group's content because you are not currently a member.

How do I get in?

>>13839

I tried to sign in with a different account but I couldn't…I guess the group is closed now.

seriously how do you get into the suicide hideout group

I've been biding my time a bit, but am making the wire transfer now. My bank is requiring me to explain the reason for the payment and to write something that will appear on my statement. Not sure what to put, or how crafty to be?

Johnson is legit

Even with antiemitics I vomit this shit up right away when I drink it.

You ordered from J?

Anyone that received N from J, came with the name Fumaric acid in the package?

>>13839

I just looked and they're re-opening the alt.suicide methods hideout group.

>>13974

Link? Still says to contact group owner

>>13980

According to a mod "very soon"

>>13990

Alrigh, I'll recheck in a few days

>>13961

Did you test yours? Is it pure?

Hi,

I also got J's N and am a little unsure (from what I read above) about the purity. Can anyone recommend the test kit or where to get it cheaper. Thanks

>>14061

From an older post above, the best way to test it is to take a 100mg sample yourself. Buy a food scale (about $10), place a cup on top of it, press the "tear" button to remove the weight of the cup, and then add a very small amount of your nembutal in the cup until the scale reads "0.1 grams." This should be done on an empty stomach. If you begin to feel sleepy and drowsy within 30 minutes, your batch is strong enough for an exit. If you don't feel sleepy, you can try 200mg, especially if you are a larger person. If you still don't feel sleepy, the batch is either not pure enough, or you may have an intolerance to barbiturates.

Post back your experience.

>>14062

I already took 300mg of J's N and fell asleep. Still, I would like to be on the safe side. I am not sure if I should have felt dizzier when waking. I need an more objective test.

>>14061

http://exitinternationalstore.com/Max-Bromson-Triple-Test-Kit-quantitative-TRIPLE-TEST-QUAN.htm

>>14061

http://exitinternationalstore.com/Max-Bromson-Triple-Test-Kit-quantitative-TRIPLE-TEST-QUAN.htm

Is it possible to purchase that kit somewhere else cheapter?

>>14091

Not that I know of. But should money really matter if you're on the verge of leaving this planet?

I guess you are right. Money shouldnt matter anymore. Not very consistent thinking of me. Vestiges of living, I guess.

I'll just buy the kit and see what the results are.

>>14147

Really? If so that's great.

I would think that a foreign person who cannot speak a lick of spanish trying to buy multiple bottles of these (50ml is not enough to kill, you need at least 200ml) would arouse suspicion.

>>14148

Do you know if you can just drink it or does it need to be injected?

>>14149

I think you can do both, but injecting it is much faster and you don't risk vomiting it back up.

>>14155

>19g

In that case it will work.

>>14155

>>14156

I still would get two just in case.

I talked to my vet friend (in Mexico) about both nembutal and fentanyl being used for suicides (she has been suicidal herself – it's safe for me talk to her about anything). This is what she had to say:

> That's a terrible idea … there are doubts as to how it affects consciousness and it kills by respiratory arrest, so those who use it could still be conscious while choking to death, besides the oral pills are only available in Europe (and only in one or two countries), they only sell the injectable form over here and it's very painful when injected by itself… it is very risky, even for euthanasia.

> I never use it myself, it's too inhumane and unpredictable. I usualy go for xilazine.

> Fentanyl is a bit risky too… we usually only use it for ER cases since it tends to cause panic in unsedated animals.

None of those are available for oral administration, they're both IV

> I've heard of that…. people buying them off vets to sell in the US … they market it as an "easy, painless" way out but that's not true… it's just an easy buck for them, they never tell their customers how difficult it is to administer or what the side effects are. euthanasia drugs used in Europe are manufactured differently, they are made especially for human use (pento is illegal for animal use in Europe btw… because of how outdated it is). So I wouldn't recommend it.

Just thought I'd post this in case it might be useful for anyone else.

>>14175

I think I'll trust Exit International over some random Mexican nurse.

The thing i am most scared is going back being cripple or with brain damage, so what is most safe way to wihout chance of being handicapped.

I was thing about mix of heroin plus xa or other bezno

>>14223

> nurse

Well, good luck with dying, when you can't even into reading comprehension.

>>14225

Okay, Vet wtfever.

Exit International >>>> Some random Vet. Bye.

>>14225

when you can't even into reading comprehension.

LOL. Nice.

>>14229

> thinking that was a typo

Lurk moar.