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61715b No.11470

d12315 No.11474

tl;dr for it me

are they saying suicide is not a human right?


61715b No.11490

>>11474

It is, imo. I can see why some of you want it to end so early and appreciate it.

The idea is that suicidal inclinations might be a genetic thing. Even aside from depression, a person might be equipped with biases that preempt self termination.


61715b No.11491


fb4ffe No.11767

I don't understand these articles

>if you want to kill yourself it's because of your brain

Yes, everything I do is because of my brain. We already knew this.

Everything my brain does is because of itself and the environment

Whether you choose to blame the brain or the environment depends on your own brain and environment

So is the environment flawed or the brains which respond to it?

How do you define whether or not a behavior (suicidality) is flawed in the first place?

Where is this magical line in the sand where something can suddenly be pathologized?

I hate this shit because it devalues everything that has meaning, like they'd just crack your skull open and fix everything with their medicinal hax

Maybe I'm too old-fashioned, but the powerlessness this makes me feel


61715b No.11798

>>11767

If they could it would be good.


80bdab No.11814

>>11767

From reading the New Scientist article, it seems that your genetics can predispose your brain from better defending itself with chemicals that would make you less likely to feel so much mental distress from your environment. So, shit happens when your younger, and your genetics make your brain configure itself in a way that fuck you over later in life by not being able to deal if your life sucks.

I saw somewhere that someone found a psychopathy gene, and there is a similar situation where we are much more likely to become a psycho if we have the gene and also have shitty events early in life.

So, I don't think environmental factors are completely ignored in this research. We can't be 100% sure why some people choose to kill themselves, as environmental factors vary a lot, but we can gather statistics that point the direction towards how certain genetics can make us prone towards suicidal behavior.




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