/suicide/ - Suicide Tips & Tricks

You can even die from skin patches:

http://newsforumforlawyers.com/2011/08/the-duragesic-fentanyl-pain-patch-one-very-dangerous-drug/

I think it needs to be stated that tor is not 100% safe and you can be tracked down by a law enforcement agency if they so choose to monitor where this seller is shipping to

>>11751

It is 100% safe insofar that you won't get charged for receiving drugs in the mail that you didn't sign for unless you live in soviet Russia or some other oppressive shithole.

If you're paranoid just leave the letter unopened for a couple days in case cops come to ask about it (unlikely).

The worst thing that can happen is that the letter gets confiscated, but unless you order huge quantities that won't lead to a follow up.

I'm not even sure why you care about that when you want to kill yourself anyway.

>>11763

I'm the original poster and haven't done much research on it as I'll most likely not kill myself within the next 1-2 years.

I don't see why analogues would be less potent unless they're cut with something, but you can also buy the allegedly real deal (more expensive though).

I'm on the same page with you regarding wanting to be left alone.

Not sure what your situation is, but if you aren't disabled you can always take public transport somewhere rural / to a national park / to a larger forest and walk deep into the wilderness.

You can either dig a hole or buy a small military tent, so people are unlikely to find you.

This seems to be some good information on fentanyl analogues and the variations in potency

https://rcwatch.wordpress.com/2015/02/02/summary-of-rc-opioids-w-15-w-18-mt-45-ah-7921-u-47700-butyr-fentanyl-acetyl-fentanyl-parafluorobutyr-fentanyl/

Obviously we are going to take an order of magnitude more than what it takes to overdose, so it shouldn't matter too much.

>>11753

Pretty sure people care about not going to prison because slitting your wrists with a shiv after being force buttfucked in the shower is one the least methods any of of want to go out. If you think a federal agency can't fuck you fast into prison, you've been watching too much Law and Order or any other "get a lawyer, go free" bullshit show.

>>11777

You could probably pay someone in prison to kill you.

Maybe I'm more of a world hating psychopath than most suicidal people here, but idgaf about prison.

There are thousands of people buying drugs from TOR markets and the only people that ever got arrested in the US bought guns or poison like this guy:

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/new-york-man-indicted-attempting-acquire-deadly-toxin-ricin

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What did he do wrong?

Not using a fake ID to rent the mailbox.

Probably not using a 24/7 place where he could pick up the package in the middle of the night.

If you don't order huge quantities of drugs, poisons or guns, nobody will bother with 24/7 surveillance of some place offering PO box services, cause shit costs serious shekels.

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Why is it safe for people to buy small amounts of drugs going to their home address as unregistered mail you ask?

If this wasn't the case you could send drugs to unsuspecting people and get them arrested for it.

As long as you don't sign for anything, leave the letter unopened for a couple days if you're paranoid and deny any wrongdoing you'll be fine if the cops ever show up, as they can't prove shit.

Bump back to the 1st page.

Back to 1st page cause shit is cheap and works.

I'm pretty stupid.

I'll need a PO box in a fictitious name, right? I don't know how to get a fake ID, so can I just say that the fictitious name is a minor, because on the application for a USPS box, it says "a parent or guardian may receive the mail of minors by listing their names (no ID is required)." I'm old enough for someone to believe that I'm a parent, so I'm thinking that might work.

And where should I get the PO box? USPS, UPS, FedEx, or somewhere else?

>>11996

You don't need a PO box.

If customs intercept the letter they'll let you know (highly unlikely with very small quantities of a powder) and normally will never follow up.

If the cops want to bust you (again unlikely with small quantities) they'll have to prove that you indeed ordered it, which is a pretty hard thing to do.

If you order a kilo of coke as an unregistered package they'll obviously go through the trouble of coming a day after delivery and checking what happened to the package and where you stored the drugs.

If you leave the package unopened though you can always deny that you even know whats inside.

I'm really bad with needles

Does it come in tablet form?

>>12083

Powder.

Just rub it in your gums and it should kill you as well.

People die from skin patches all the time because it just takes a few mg too much to kill you. Shit is effective.

So what will the experience be like? Will I suffer? Will I fall unconscious and just then die?

>>12095

Signs of Overdose

Patients who use the fentanyl skin patch should be aware of the signs of fentanyl overdose: trouble breathing or shallow breathing; tiredness, extreme sleepiness, or sedation; inability to think, talk, or walk normally; and feeling faint, dizzy, or confused. If these signs occur, patients or their caregivers should get medical attention right away.

A patient using the fentanyl skin patch may have a sudden and possible dangerous rise in their body level of fentanyl or have a stronger effect from fentanyl if they:

Use other medicines that affect brain function

Drink alcohol (beer, wine, or distilled spirits)

Have an increase in body temperature or are exposed to heat

Use other medicines that affect how fentanyl is broken down in the body.

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If the dose is high enough you'll pass out quickly.

Has anyone bought this already or are you planning on buying it? It so, how are you going to let it be delivered?

Are you using your own name?

Are you using your own address?

Are you living on your own?

How should I do this? I'm living with my parents and the can check what I've bought through the site of our bank…

>>12121

>How should I do this? I'm living with my parents and the can check what I've bought through the site of our bank…

You make the purchase via Bitcoin, which you can procure through various channels, so it's not like they can find out about that.

The letter will be sent with decent stealth obviously, as the seller doesn't want to get either of you busted.

If one of your parents touches the powder they might die though if they're unlucky via skin absorption, so keep that in mind.

>>11764

>I don't see why analogues would be less potent unless they're cut with something

Because an analogue is a different chemical with different properties?

Example, Sumatriptan is a medication for severe migraines, and is a direct analogue of DMT, one of the most powerful hallucinogenic drugs.

>>11749

So which of the options listed in the website is the most recommended one for suicide?

>>12214

Fentanyl hcl. Sublingual and Buccal absorption are 50%. Take double the lethal dose. Fentanyl isn't always potent so make sure you google the vendor and check out their reddit reviews (sometimes you might have to ask about the vendor on reddit if there's no info). It can take sifting through a few pages on grams search on deep web to find what you're looking for. Anyway, I'll probably get 100mg of fentanyl hcl powder even though that's overkill.

>>12219

Don't forget alcohol and warming up your room a lot if you do it at home. Maybe add some benzos if you got the shekels.

just got my fent a few days ago…think I'm gonna take it tonight.

goodbye.

>>12230

Remember, if it doesn't work (or if you just don't do it tonight) post here so we can know.

Good luck and Godspeed.

>>12228

Thanks anon. Yeah I'd take with anti-emetics, weed, benzos, alcohol… I've also heard grapefruit is an opiate booster? not sure if it works for fentanyl though. Why would I warm up the room?

>>12230

good luck bro, see you next life maybe :)

>>12237

>I've also heard grapefruit is an opiate booster?

I feel kinda lazy right now, but there are lots of opiate potentiation posts on bluelight where you can find out what works, i.e. http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/252569-The-Ultimate-Opiate-Potentiation-Thread

>Why would I warm up the room?

To increase blood circulation, so the Fentanyl will act faster.

If the dosage is right that won't matter though.

>>12269

Cool, thanks. I live in Australia so it shouldn't be a problem.

I you had 250mg acetyl fentanyl, and 500mg alprazolam powder. And parachuted both of them in full with some anti-nausea medication and good old alcohol. Think that would be successful?

Anyone have any suggestions?

>>12291

Should kill you easily.

Pro tip: Rub the Fentanyl into your gums. No need to swallow it.

Back to the 1st page. :)

Dammit, when is Middle Earth going to come back online? I need to submit my seller feedback to let him know it got here.

Also, I tested a small amount of it. It doesn't really feel like anything, except for some itching. I had Vicodin prescribed once, which felt pretty good. This didn't feel like that. It seems to be an effective painkiller, though, because I scratched at my back enough for it to bleed all over my sheets… That's when I learned you should take anti-histamines with opioids.

>>12486

>Also, I tested a small amount of it. It doesn't really feel like anything, except for some itching.

Fentanyl has no rush afaik and you just straight pass out when you overdose.

If you want your life to end with a rush maybe shoot some heroin shortly before you do the Fentanyl.

>>12486

>Dammit, when is Middle Earth going to come back online?

Maybe they exit scammed.

I use Alphabay for drugs right now.

I think you want Fentanyl HCL, not acetyl. HCO is much stronger and citrate isn't really available anywhere on the DNM's

>>12494

With the dosages you can easily get for little money the strength difference doesn't really matter.

Right now Ace Fent is impossible to find, fent HCL is selling for about $150 for 100mg, you would want at least 500mg placing the price at more than the Nembutal vendors, although more likely to arrive.

>>12219

>>12511

So which of these is true?

>>12512

He's obviously just making bold statements without anything to back them up.

Heroin dealers that cut it with fent aren't purchasing anything fancy and people still die from it.

as someone who took 100mg of ace fent with no tolerance it is very true as i am here typing.

Also, since China banned precursor production of fent analogues, the entire supply will dry up soon.

Been chatting with this random dude from Ukraine about buying 16grams of nembutal for 200usd.

He sent me some UPS tracking codes to prove his legitimacy. He's asking to be paid via Western Union.

He assures me he's legit, which means nothing.

Any suggestions? Trying to get out this month.

>>12556

You gonna get scammed bro.

No escrow on a well known market = you'll get scammed, but even if you do escrow with a brand new seller stuff can go wrong.

He can easily steal tracking codes.

The real shit is in China, India and Mexico. The Ukraine is a haven for hackers and scammers and I wouldn't go near sellers from there or Russia.

>>12555

You sound like a saging anti suicide faggot.

Nope, just someone trying to find their way out. You sound like someone who hasn't done the real research.

>>12556 Any suggestions on some reliable sellers to buy from in those countries?

>>12560

LD50 of acetylfentanyl (predicted) = 4.5 mcg/kg (0.0045 mg/kg) - 300 mcg (0.3mg) for a 70kg opioid intolerant user!!!

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/drug_chem_info/acetylfentanyl.pdf

>>12558

>some

Any suggestions on some reliable sellers to buy from in those countries?

>>12563

You can only get Phenobarbital on the darknet.

http://grams7enufi7jmdl.onion/infodesk/vendor/0xA593C29DD7225734

Apparently there is a Chinese seller who does deals via WU for Nembutal via email but chances are you will get scammed.

>>11749 well im prety much ready to go through with this. All I need is 0.15 bitcoins. Seems like a pain in the ass to purchase them through 3rd parties online.

Requires photo ID

Address info

Is there an easier way to buy bitcoins than this?

>>12569

How easy it is depends on where you're from.

Some cities have bitcoin ATMs where you can purchase them.

You can find sellers in your area via localbitcoins.com

You can buy via coinbase.com with PayPal etc. but they most likely will require docs from you.

You can wash your bitcoins, so nobody will know what happened to them, but idk which services are legit right now.

>>12570

>>12569

I used coinbase. All I had to do was put in bank account info or card info. It resolves faster with a card; with a transfer, it takes about 3 business days.

I washed my bitcoins with Helix Light, linked from the grams page. A note is that it took about 6 hours, I think, for the cleaner to finish. I panicked for a little bit because I didn't realize it would take that long.

Bamp for effectiveness.

>>12569

rest assured, there is an easy way to buy BTC.

localbitcoin. cash deposit is usually the easiest.

for a small amount like .15, you can make the payment at a walmart, CVS/walgreens, gas stations etc.

Back to the 1st page.

How do blotters work?

>>12675

A blotter is a piece of paper laced with the substance.

The amounts required are small enough so that paper can be laced with it I guess.

You just put the paper under your tongue and off you go.

Back to 1st page for effectiveness.

Gonna exit this way myself next year I guess.

Probably a stupid question to ask but did someone already try this shit and fail? Can you share your experiences? I'm reading a lot of mixed messages about the effects of opioid overdose (warm and peaceful vs vomiting your guts out etc).

>>12773

Fentanyl is not your run off the mill opiod and it's very lethal.

In fact some websites claim it's difficult to OD on heroin.

It's extremely strong and you'll pass out quickly and stop breathing if the dosage is sufficient. The end.

If you want warm and peaceful shoot some heroin firstly, but the first time is hardly ever good I heard and mostly just vomiting.

Back to the 1st page. :)

Bump

Back to 1st page.

this guy on reddit "ingested" nembutal.

what are the chances he actually died?

I thought you were supposed to inject this stuff?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ForeverAlone/comments/3vsa89/ive_ingested_25_grams_of_nembutal/

>>12773

>>12793

Attempted heroin OD here. Shot up approx 850mg. Woke up in a hospital bed.

I made two mistakes.

1. "Hurr I'm going to die anyway, may as well shoot up heroin recreationally a few times to see what it's like". Those few times built up some degree of tolerance. I should've realised it when my last recreational shot was twice as big as the first. I didn't think anything of it at the time.

2. This is probably the bigger of my two fuckups - I didn't get drunk before injecting. I had intended to do so but it slipped my mind because I'm a retard. If you do some googling you'll find that the majority of people who die due to heroin OD don't die purely because of heroin; don't quote me on the exact numbers but something like 85% of heroin ODs involved the user having taken some other CNS (central nervous system) suppressant drug at the same time, such as booze or benzos or some other sedative. Pure heroin OD is quite rare.

With regards to your concerns about vomiting, it can differ from person to person. I've never really had problems with vomiting when I've had a bit too much heroin, yet oxycodone can make me quite nauseous the next morning if I take too much. If I recreationally use 'safe' amounts of heroin and then have more than 2 beers, I'll vomit very quickly and feel quite unwell.

>>12994

I doubt either of them would be painful. Both of them just make you sort of pass out and then die of respiratory failure. If you've ever had surgery done and had to be anesthetized, it's more or less like that. I remember with the big heroin OD, I stuck the needle in my arm, injected, took it out, then used the 20 seconds before it hit to put the cap back on, put the needle down, and get comfortable. Then the world was just gone and I was gone, albeit temporarily.

The question of which drug you should do really comes down to which one is more easily available for you.

>>12977

You can drink it or IV it. If he really did drink 25 grams of nembutal then there's a good chance he's dead. His post history would seem to suggest so - no activity since his posts in that thread. I hope he's in a better place, if he was genuine.

>>12996

Oh, and one more bit about my experience with heroin OD, regarding this bit of >>12773

>I'm reading a lot of mixed messages about the effects of opioid overdose (warm and peaceful vs vomiting your guts out etc).

>warm and peaceful vs vomiting your guts out etc

It was definitely peaceful. Veeeery fucking quick. When you inject heroin you have about 20 seconds before it hits you. Take enough and you'll just slip out of consciousness with nary a struggle - there's no panic, no fighting, no 'oh god I'm dying'. It's like flicking off a light switch and you don't even realise it.

Just got to make sure you don't make the same mistakes I mentioned in my post, so then the light switch never gets flicked back on.

>>12994

Both of them would be painless. The reason being that from everything I have read and researched it's incredibly quick. The only pain would be if you took the recommended dosage and had some adverse effect as opposed to intentionally overdosing. The differences are prices and availability as far as I can tell.

>>12996

In regards to your anecdote, would you feel that 25mg of powdered fent hcl would be enough with alcohol for a first time user? Or do you feel that wouldn't be appropriate. I've read that fent hcl is around 50-100 times stronger than heroin so it would be the equivalent of 1250-2500mg of heroin (assuming that what I'm buying is pure enough), and also that 1-2mg of fent hcl (injected?) is enough to put someone to sleep for good. So I'm presuming based on what I've come by that 25mg should be overkill with alcohol/benzos, although it would be snorted, not shot, and from what I read it's only around 90% absorbed intranasal (and 50% sublingual/oral).

Oh wait, I combined heroin and morphine statistics because I'm a moron.

Around 50 times stronger than heroin and 100 times stronger than morphine. Intranasal bioavailability is 90% so 25mg of fent hcl snorted is equivalent to 1125mg of heroin or 2250mg of morphine intravenous. If my math isn't awful and I haven't ignorantly omitted anything.

>>12556

>western union

>>12977

I used to go on that sub. Damn

>>12977

Jesus that subreddit makes r9k look like well adjusted Chads. Some of the posters there may as well be afraid of their own goddamn shadow. The amount of misinformation, holy shit.

>>13019

That's 0.5 mg, you can buy 10-20 mg in blotters

>>13019

You realize that 500 microgram are 0.5 milligram (abbreviated as mg) right?

It's also about skin patches.

Anyone have tor links to buy this shit?

>>13054

Just choose one of the market links from the grams page.

Alphabay is still up and some other markets are defunct right now.

Found a site that claims the LD50 of fentanyl is 62 mg/kg. Are they just full of shit?

https://www.caymanchem.com/app/template/Product.vm/catalog/14719

Assuming I can't get a needle, what's the next best option for taking the stuff? Snorting it, or rubbing it on my gums?

>>13079

And regarding the lethal dosage for humans with non analogues:

The estimated lethal dose of fentanyl in humans is 2 mg.

http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/drug-profiles/fentanyl

I had another look for fentanyl on grams search today and all of the legit looking options seem to have disappeared. I'm only seeing options with no reviews…

>>13101

C'mon you were barely looking…

http://grams7enufi7jmdl.onion/infodesk/vendor/0x4C926B4DD5F416AE

That guy sells Fent HCL for example and he has tons of reviews.

Also new vendors need to use escrow.

>>13127

I saw that and assumed he only sent to USA

>>13134

Where do you need it shipped to?

>>13222

Australia

>>13227

These sellers on Alphabay all ship to Australia:

http://pwoah7foa6au2pul.onion/search.php?s_terms=fentanyl&s_ltype=0&s_lphysical=2&s_minprice=0.00&s_maxprice=99999.99&s_countryid=-1&s_tocountryid=331&s_order=0&s_active=1&s_fulfill=2&s_multisig=2&s_bulk=2&s_stock=1&s_payment=0&s_avgship=0&s_minlevel=1&s_maxlevel=10

It's up to you to decide which one is the most trustworthy. Happydrugs suggested dosage of 5mg is suspiciously high for example for his Acetyl Fentanyl, which makes me think it's cut.

>>13227

Also keep in mind that Australian customs are known to be very tough.

If the amounts are small and the stealth is good you shouldn't have issues though.

>>13229

I'm planning on ordering 100mg of fentanyl because I don't trust its purity. What about 1 gram of china white? Cheers, anon.

>>13229

Looks like a lot of the listings are back up now anyway :)

>>13234

The China white is cut with unknown quantities of maltitol.

I'd go with one of these:

http://pwoah7foa6au2pul.onion/listing.php?id=24522

http://pwoah7foa6au2pul.onion/listing.php?id=16245

100mg should hopefully be sufficient though, but canadasunshine's dosage recommendations are quite high, which is suspicious.

I know the tolerance buildup can be quite high though.

Bamp for effectiveness.

Bamp it up…

4 days ago I went with my 50 mg ordered Fentanyl in a hotel. I didn't measured it, took most of it nasallsy, maybe 30-40 mg and later I had to vomit.

>>13691

Christ… where'd you order from? Are you sure it was fentanyl hcl?? any tolerance? height and weight?? 2mg or a little over is supposed to kill you…

>>13692

Damn, I am reading now it was Fake HCL Fentanyl.

I ordered it by pharmaphil on Jan 15 http://pwoah7foa6au2pul.onion/listing.php?id=30711&imgid=20150826876363c21143432e2169e80cd8339b9d&tab=3

I am interested what it was.

Do you think I have to take anti-emetics and after that alcohol to get a more likely death?

>>13691

>>13691

well shit, i'm really sorry that happened to you. i think that's everyone's biggest fear when ordering shit like this…but it's the risk we have to take, unfortunately. with that said, i think i'll still order some. this guy claims to be in the US, good reviews too http://pwoah7foa6au2pul.onion/listing.php?id=75874&imgid=20151221b8b9b6beb275ea7a59fa68013626da8d&tab=3

>>13694

Sorry to hear that you got duped, anon! 50mg of real hcl fentanyl should've killed you… you don't have to take anti-emetics, fentanyl should kill you quite nicely but they are a good addition https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Suicide/Toxification/Antiemetic_regimen …domperidone is the best option (read Option #1: Domperidone). You can buy it here and apparently when you go to buy it putting a fake prescription is fine (alldaychemist is indian) http://www.alldaychemist.com/vomistop.html …if you don't want to bother with that you could just take benadryl, I would also recommend a large dose of a strong benzo. http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/drug-poisoning/things-consider … and drink some alcohol but not too much. Also ordering 50mg from two different sellers isn't a bad idea, if it's the last thing you do you might as well go all out and do it properly. Last thing, make sure the room is warm because that speeds up death (circulation), also I'm not sure snorting it is the best idea (I could be wrong), sublingual is good from what I've heard. Good luck!

bump, anyone else order this?

So any legit sellers?

>>12561

Go on the Nembutal thread, there's a post with a page from the PPH listing sellers of N. One of them is JohnZero and many people have used him and reported he was legit.

Go on the Nembutal thread, there's a post with a page from the PPH listing sellers of N. One of them is JohnZero and many people have used him and reported he was legit.

fuck my life, ordered to a friends house and her mum found the fen, i'm so upset.. it had even arrived on time too. can't rly order to my house either bc my mum is nosey. might hang myself now :(

Bamp