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a4e65a No.11945

How many of these are just myths?

1 - Helium canisters have oxygen in them so you can't kill yourself with them anymore, you'll just wake up with brain damage.

2 - If you shoot up and through your jaw, you'll just shoot your jaw off instead of killing yourself.

3 - If you try to shoot into your mouth and back, you're likely to miss the brainstem and somehow survive.

4 - Shooting across the temples is less preferable to shooting in the mouth pointing "up."

5 - If you try to suicide off of a bridge or building, you're very likely to get caught and 401'd.

6 - Ligature suicide is a myth, you'll just end up really sore.

7 - If you don't secure the exit bag very well/use a CPAP you'll end up undoing it in your unconscious writhing and end up with brain damage.

8 - Cutting methods are very very slow and likely to end up with someone trying to "save" you after you've essentially handicapped yourself.

9 - Suicide by pill X (where X is aspirin/methadone/whichever) won't kill you and just leave you with severe stomach pains/a fucked up liver.

10 - Suicide by a drop hang has to be X feet high (where X is twice your height or whichever folklore you've happened to hear), otherwise you'll slowly suffocate for the better part of Y hours.

11 - That suicide by hanging takes ridiculously long.

12 - Drowning/Freezing to death is excruciatingly painful.

13 - Death by illegal drugs/firearms is impossible to obtain, let alone do.

That's all I can think of off of the top of my head, but these things usually come up quite a bit.

055c8e No.11952

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>1 - Helium canisters have oxygen in them so you can't kill yourself with them anymore, you'll just wake up with brain damage.

Yes, we´re talking about party baloon ones. I think they have around 20% oxygen, almost the same as normal air so you won´t even get brain damage, that´s a nice touch from them. Brain damage comes from prolonged brain oxygen starvation but not enough to kill you, read: someone "saving you". You can still get pure helium or nitrogen tanks from your local gas supplier or welder store.

>2 - If you shoot up and through your jaw, you'll just shoot your jaw off instead of killing yourself.

Correct. If you want to get technical I´d say it depends on the gun caliber and your physique, maybe it´s still possible if the bullet has enough energy to go through your jaw and frontal lobe. It´d be a slow and painful death though, maybe it could take up to hours.

>3 - If you try to shoot into your mouth and back, you're likely to miss the brainstem and somehow survive.

I imagine if you aim perfectly paralell to the ground yes you´ll miss the brainstem and hit part of the spine instead without even fully destroying it, possibly ending quadriplegic.

>4 - Shooting across the temples is less preferable to shooting in the mouth pointing "up."

I´d agree with this because when shooting in the mouth pointing up you´re trying to hit the brainstem which will kill you instantly. When shooting to the temple you´ll hit the frontal lobe which is not essential for survival. Again it depends on the gun, bullet and energy.

See Phineas Gage.

>5 - If you try to suicide off of a bridge or building, you're very likely to get caught and 401'd.

I´d say only if you´re an indecisive attention whoring faggot who stays there like a retard, or if the bridge-building roof is heavily monitored.

>6 - Ligature suicide is a myth, you'll just end up really sore.

I thought about this method before but now I think while possible it´s one of the hardest methods to carry correctly. Afaik you´re trying to block either the mayor artery or vein from the heart to brain or both so your brain starves of oxygen but without the inconvenience, pain and distress of strangulation. Unless you have someone else do it for you or you design a machine or mechanism to do it I´d say don´t bother because you´ll inevitably move a bit when you lose consciousness.

>7 - If you don't secure the exit bag very well/use a CPAP you'll end up undoing it in your unconscious writhing and end up with brain damage.

Possibly. But I think for brain damage to be a possibility some time has to pass, more than needed for your body to be able to make unconscious moves. I´d say you´ll just end with the worst headache you´ve ever had if something like this happens. You´re more likely to get brain damage from someone trying to save you if you ask me. I´d ask bondage for some tips on how to secure my hands.

>8 - Cutting methods are very very slow and likely to end up with someone trying to "save" you after you've essentially handicapped yourself.

True, unless you have the guts to slice your own throat as deeply as possible with a perfectly sharp knife and without hesitation.

>9 - Suicide by pill X (where X is aspirin/methadone/whichever) won't kill you and just leave you with severe stomach pains/a fucked up liver.

I havent done any research on pills so I can´t help you here but I get the feeling suicide prevention is one of the reasons over the counter pills are regulated and are useless.

>10 - Suicide by a drop hang has to be X feet high (where X is twice your height or whichever folklore you've happened to hear), otherwise you'll slowly suffocate for the better part of Y hours.

Yes but I think you won´t suffocate for hours, it´d be like suspension hanging plus the added trauma of the fall. And if the height is more than what´s required you´ll rip your own head off.

>11 - That suicide by hanging takes ridiculously long.

For clinical death maybe up to 15 mins or more, im pulling that number of my ass tbh. You should be unconscious pretty quickly though.

But like the post you mentioned above I´ve read of some reports of hanging witnesses where they were alive and conscious for up to 2 minutes so it depends on your definition of ridiculously long.

>12 - Drowning/Freezing to death is excruciatingly painful.

I can imagine the first one is true, but I´ve heard freezing is a process full of alucinations where you end off taking your clothes off because your body thermometer broke and you think you´re in an african desert, more than a painful one.

>13 - Death by illegal drugs/firearms is impossible to obtain, let alone do.

Nothing is impossible, money can overcome anything but considering that´s one of the reasons some of us are killing ourselves you could say yes it´s considerably hard.


055c8e No.11955


2735ec No.11959

>10 - Suicide by a drop hang has to be X feet high (where X is twice your height or whichever folklore you've happened to hear), otherwise you'll slowly suffocate for the better part of Y hours.

True. The point of drop hanging is to snap your neck. If it doesn't, it'll just work like regular hanging (though shouldn't take hours unless you weigh next to nothing and are fucking RETARDED).

See link related: http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/hanging2.html

>11 - That suicide by hanging takes ridiculously long.

False. If you go the suffocation route (don't - drop hanging is the best), you're cutting off your air supply. It should take about as much time as drowning.

>12 - Drowning/Freezing to death is excruciatingly painful.

Drowning is painful for like a minute (which will feel like forever since you're DYING). But after that, you relax. So sorta true.

As for freezing, it's can be really unpleasant for awhile (imaging spending a looooong time in below-freezing weather in a tshirt and shorts). But after a while, you stop feeling cold and instead feel so hot you wanna take your clothes off. Another option is to dress warm-ish, get really drunk, and fall asleep outside (which should feel a lot better - you'll fall asleep and not wake up).


35f09f No.11961

>6 - Ligature suicide is a myth, you'll just end up really sore.

Sure, that's why bloodchokes and strangulation aren't a thing /s.

There are records of people killing themselves by tying a shirt to their necks and tightening it using a stick. Not sure about difficulty, but definitely legit.

>>11959

>>11 - That suicide by hanging takes ridiculously long.

>False. If you go the suffocation route (don't - drop hanging is the best), you're cutting off your air supply. It should take about as much time as drowning.

What the fuck, that's wrong. Drop hanging is nearly instantaneous provided you snap your neck. Artery constriction by strangulation (the ligature thing) and suspension hanging will cause loss of consciousness within tens of seconds, and brain death ensues within minutes (you'll end up a vegetable with 8, you need like 15 to 30).


07ccaa No.11978

>>11952

Something that occurred to me:

For the helium method, shouldn't it be possible to fill up a very large bag with helium, stick your head in that bag, and then burn off the excess oxygen with a match?


9cd1b0 No.12060

>>11945

2: More like blow your face off.

3: Exsanguination will get you if you don't do it near anybody, no matter what

4: Potato if you don't bleed out

5: Superman isn't going to catch you, and the average person can't run for shit to stop your dead sprint for the edge.

8: True

9: For the most part, yes

11: If you do it right and break your fucking neck high enough, it won't be an issue.

12: Drowning is terrifying. You have instinct slashing your rational mind to pieces in desperation to get air.

13: Four winds shotgun.


93eee3 No.12075

>5 - If you try to suicide off of a bridge or building, you're very likely to get caught and 401'd.

lolwut

i've been in a million situations where i could have jumped off something, but didn't due to fear.

rather than a crowded bridge or apartment building or something you should probably find a train bridge or a deserted tower so that there's no one around to fuck with your jumping.


7d8564 No.12141

>>11955

…I don't know why this has a sarcastic smiley, this is a pretty good resource.


ee6896 No.12146

>>11978

I got to wondering if helium was flammable (seemed unlikely since that would just be Hindenberg 2.0) and Google is telling me it's a flame retardant even. I don't know if the reasoning there is that fire needs oxygen and if you have less oxygen the there's less fuel or whatever but whatever the case it doesn't sound like it would work.


7d8564 No.12151

>>12146

If you did something like grabbed a match and waved it around in there, it would just react with the carbon in the stick and the oxygen in the bag and turn it into CO2. The Helium wouldn't react at all since it's a noble gas, right?

The real issue, I think, would be that you would fill the bag with fucking smoke and soot.


c9dcab No.12196

>>12146

I'm pretty sure only pure helium is a flame retardant.

>>12151

Perhaps a cigarette lighter then?




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