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e44e7f No.4543
Anyone know how much charcoal (pounds/amount of bags) would be needed to successfully commit suicide in a small car?
812b01 No.4544
>>4543It is highly dependent on the oxygen levels within the car and how ventilated the interior of the car is.
Remember that coals burning with adequate airflow and in a disperse condition produce mainly carbon dioxide, which will induce choking and so not kill you, because you will leave the area.
You will want them to burn as long as possible to break co2 into 2co via reactions with free o2 and the carbon in the coals. The best indicator that you have reached adequate c0 concentrations is that the coals start to loose heat and the burning reaction slows. You can probably see the flame dim through the window after 30min-1 hour, this is a good sign the co levels are high.
You will also want to place the coals towards the bottom of the car, because the rising heat will cause a convection current to form which will ensure adequate mixing of the gasses to keep the combustion process going and burn out enough of the oxygen and co2.
The optimal ppm of co you want to reach is 10,000 ppm. At this level you will be knocked unconscious in a matter of seconds. Your lungs prefer to absorb co over co2 and with a concentration of 10,000 ppm there should be an adequate concentration to block out the absorption of c02.
High temperature within the car is a good thing because the high entropy will cause the gasses to optimally burn ensuring you reach the 10,000 ppm level. Generally the ultimate levels of co you can generate depend not on the quantity of coal you start of with, but the quantity of oxygen you start with, given a sealed container. Even a small amount of burning coals given sufficient time in a sealed area should reach 10,000 ppm.
Given a sealed car a standard 1/4 bag of charcoal should be many times more than enough to reach the concentration in 1 hour.
812b01 No.4545
>>4544but to be on the safest side you should probably wait longer than a n hour or even better buy a c0 detector and wait for 20,000+ ppm. I'm guessing some of the co is going to escape when you enter.
812b01 No.4547
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_poisoning12,800 ppm (1.28%) Unconsciousness after 2–3 breaths. Death in less than three minutes.
6,400 ppm (0.64%) Headache and dizziness in one to two minutes. Convulsions, respiratory arrest, and death in less than 20 minutes.
As you can see the difference between 6,000 and 12,000 is pretty big. So if you do not want to suffer an excrupoliceting headache / seizure before you die. Than make sure you got high concentrations.
f40220 No.4550
>>4544Is spontaneous combustion of the vehicle a problem? I mean charcoal by definition gets pretty hot. I have no problem going out via the big sleep. Not so crazy about going up like some Buddhist monk.
e44e7f No.4555
>>4544>>4547Thanks for the info. When you say "sealed car", what does that entail? Do I have to tape the vents shut or something?
812b01 No.4556
>>4550Once the oxygen level is depleted it's pretty unlikely, a grill inside a car is likely without wind, or a fresh breeze to operate at a low temperature. How a bellows reaches high temperature is large volume introduction of fresh oxygen. You know to control the temperature of grills there is a perforation to adjust which regulates how fast air can flow through the grill naturally from the heat rising sucking in fresh oxygen through the bottom or out the top. Inside a car once oxygen levels deplete this would limit the burning temperature to under 250f most likely. Unless you put the grill right next to something flammable, or have fresh air flowing in I doubt it will happen. You can always be safe and do it instead inside a cockproof tent which is what I would recommend.
>>4555You would obviously want to cover the air conditioning vents if possible, with some duct tape and make sure the windows are closed. The most obvious areas for air to come in are the door seals. You could just duct tape around the doors if you want, but that might not be necessary, a small amount of air entering probably won't be that bad, just no significant amount.
812b01 No.4557
>>4556*cockproof
*fireproof
Not sure what auto correct is up too.
e44e7f No.4558
>>4556Do you think it would help in any way for me to be breathless coming into the car, as in I just ran a mile or so? Or would that leave less oxygen to convert into CO?
812b01 No.4559
>>4558If you held your breath before getting into the car, like until you badly needed to breath and were that would increase the chance to pass out from a single breath. I don't really know if you need to do that. Keep in mind doing this might also cause you to panic because your blood is already being saturated with carbon dioxide, I don't really know if it would matter though because if you are going to pass out in one breath it doesn't matter.
Running a mile would increase your circulatory rate and kill you faster yes. however I would probably skip this, chances are your heart rate is going to naturally spike right before you step in from just psychological reasons.
e44e7f No.4560
>>4559Thank you so much for your time
e44e7f No.4561
>>4544Does passing out guarantee death, given there are no interruptions?
812b01 No.4562
>>4561Well odds are if you are in the area you passed out in than yes. Provided it happened fast. If you are inside the area for 30 seconds or longer and it does not happen i would advise to step out. The only way brain damage is going to occur and you survive is if the ppm is under the 5000 level. If you don;t pass out in 30 seconds than you will have time to step out and figure out what you did wrong. If at all possible you should get a co monitor to check the levels first.
Nobody will survive over 5000 ppm provided the environment is sealed if you pass out you will die.
There may be a risk of brain damage if you leave the door open. I would advise to shut the door before you start breathing.
e44e7f No.4563
But since the CO levels are rising, can't you just stay in?
812b01 No.4564
>>4563Yeah you could, provided the coals are still producing a heat. At the risk you might suffer a little bit before you die. The introduction of oxygen form opening the door would increase the generation of c02 and co.
The only reason I advised to step out is to ensure you do not suffer for a few minutes, or in the case the coals are not burning. If you don't care for a few minutes of pain you could stay in.
Dieing takes a lot of courage despite what people will tell you of it being cowardly.
The fact is you are willfully entering the unknown, I like to think of it as the true final frontier. Hopefully entering will be as painless as possible. You are brave and despite the reasons you choose to end life do not let people tell you you are a coward it take great courage.
No man can tell you what is the right decision for you, because no mortal man known what death is for you and neither doe he know what life is. Keep the decision for yourself.
Only make it when you are at peace with your decision.
e44e7f No.4565
>>4564>true final frontierBeautiful words.. the final frontier is the one we can never truly understand, at least not consciously.
Thank you for your help and your words.
d4dace No.4644
Hey I'm new here but wouldn't the lack of oxygen in the vehicle cause the flame to burn out? Or would there be enough oxygen to produce and sustain at least 6400 ppm?
c98cf2 No.4653
>>4545Most detectors only work up to 1000ppm.
812b01 No.4654
c98cf2 No.4687
I am not from the USA.
It will be even more expensive here, similar devices I assume.
But isn't 1000ppm of CO enough concentration?
You simply need a bit longer, ~1 hour.
5e267f No.4691
Guys, if you want to make sure this will work, buy some sulfuric acid and formic acid, and mix them together. It will release lots of carbon monoxide(what kills you peacefully from charcoal suicide) quickly, and can help you pass out much quicker.
The site I used to buy
http://www.dudadiesel.com/And of course it's acid, so when you pour them, it needs to be held together in glass.
e5227e No.4702
>>4691arn.t the going to alert the authorities if I buy those. Will i ahve to buy them seperatly?
The worst possible thing that could happen is I try to buy this stuff and than someone takes me away to an institution. That would be a nightmare 10 times worse than death.
c98cf2 No.4714
>>4691Don't you need to heat it up also, as in put in energy?
Sorry, I suck at chemistry.
776b7f No.4720
How does carbon monoxide compare to nitrogen, helium and argon?
5e267f No.4724
>>4702No, considering you can buy sulfuric acid in a auto parts store and buy formic acid in some hardware stores and places like walmart.
>>4714The sulfuric acid should be hot. If you want to do this, the amount of sulfuric acid you get should be twice as much as the amount of formic acid you are using. But, the case of suicide I heard this way was just in a small tent, and to my knowledge, he didn't heat up the sulfuric acid.
Another way to generate CO is to heat a fine mixture of calcium carbonate and zinc.
c98cf2 No.4725
>>4720Inert gas are asphyxiants, and categorized as such, while with CO you speak of POISONING.
It works on another level.
Its molecules once breathed in will bind to your blood cells hundred times easier than Oxygen, basically replacing it and making no room for the latter.
This is why with CO you don't need to constantly breath in the pure gas through a bag, and a relatively low PPM is enough over some time.
In the end it is a question of availability.
If I had the choice, I would/will go with CO.
But like with everything in my life, I FEAR that even if I invest money into it, I fail at generating a high enough concentration.
c98cf2 No.4951
I have found out that you can buy formic acid and sulfuric acid even on Amazon, just like that, though it is not completely pure.
So, the question is, how much of that stuff you need to mix together so it will turn into enough Carbon Monoxide over time in the room to get the job done?
dfc06e No.4971
>>4951There's a section on it in the Peaceful Pill handbook.
f99987 No.5103
>>4556How would you seal a fierproof tent to avoid the gasses leaving? Are most fierproof tents impermeable? What is a good fierproof tent?
812b01 No.5115
c98cf2 No.5123
>>5115Those tents are freaking expensive.
Several hundreds of bucks.
812b01 No.5124
>>5123>expensive>hundreds of dollars kek
You are going to be dead it doesn't matter. Splurge
f99987 No.5128
>>5103Also holy shit, how I did spell fierproof wrong so many times?
f99987 No.5129
>>5128fierproof. What the hell.
f99987 No.5130
>>5124People who don't own a car probably don't have the money to spend on a $600 tent and a $400 CO monitor.
812b01 No.5133
>>5130Whatever if you can't get enough money than I hate to say it, perhaps this is the bourgeois suicide method. I suppose only those with minimal means can afford to kill themselves this way. I would recommend than just jumping off a high building or make a shotgun out of some steel pipe if you cannot afford it.
782b09 No.5199
I'm thinking of buying a load of disposable bbqs tomorrow and endign it in my room.
How many should I light? I want to generate enough co but I don't want to burn the place down.
Will the heat build up to unbearable levels before I die if I light 3-4 at once?
812b01 No.5226
>>5199The fire rises…
The heat won;t be that high, just put the grills on some tinfoil, duct tape the seals in your door, an the air conditioning ducts. Preferably turn off the AC.
Wait an hour.
Walk in and lay down, you''ll be dead in minutes.
48a58f No.5253
as long as the place is air tight should work even if it takes a while longer, just get heavily drunk, sedated or drugged before doing it so you dont feel a thing, play some emotional music, say your goodbyes, say farewell to your loved ones to the festering old wounds, a brave new world awaits after the great journey. Following oblivion, comes a new beggining. Rejoice.
c98cf2 No.5256
I admit I have never had a barbeque in my life.
How much smoke does lightening up the charcoal produce initially?
Because my concern is if it is too much, neighbours might notice the smoke going out from the window and call the fier fighters.
Also how much charcoal can a standard grill be filled with?
f99987 No.5262
>>5226Random question… How did you end up becoming an expert on this kind of stuff?
c98cf2 No.5287
>>5262I guess the person you ask, has quite some experience with grilling.
I have none, which makes it quite the challenge and a factor to fear for me.
f99987 No.5586
I'm continuing my research. I'm leaning towards charcoal in a tent, but I keep getting mixed information on how unpleasant it is. Some people say it's a slow distressing death - "The fumes are suffocating. They fill my eyes with tears. Don't write me anymore."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/27/claire-lin-facebook-suicide_n_1381910.htmlBut then you have instances of people accidentally killing themselves or their families with CO from grills, so it can't be that slow and distressing or else people would have realized what was going on?
c98cf2 No.5992
No chance guys
I have only found a hanheld device that can measure up to 2000ppm CO levels.
I don't know whether it is enough.
ab0a91 No.5995
ab0a91 No.5996
Also if you have a car some form of hanging is always a possibility.
Get a strong rope (something really strong like rope for sailing
http://www.marlowropes.com/leisure-marine-products-1/superyacht/doublebraid.html)
Length doesn't matter that much as long as you can do a good knot to a tree and be able to put the rope on your neck when you're inside the car.
The difference between this and a normal drop hanging is that a car engine is a lot stronger than the gravity on your body.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJvCI9NT9M8 812b01 No.6007
>>5992You can use sconce. Observe the rate of increase as per minute the detector approaches 2000. Extrapolate and make an educated guess how long before you have higher levels.
c98cf2 No.6008
>>5995That's quite some long time.
Ofc I will fall unconscious after some time before the 2 hour mark, but the problem is that the charcoal have to produce that level of Carbon Monoxide atleast for 2 hours then.
That must be quite some amount of charcoal, if we talk about let's say a cubic space of ~12m³ (2.5x2.5x2).
And the greatest fear will be if I can't even produce up to 2000ppm.
I would be devastated because I would have no options less to guarantee me a soft death.
7e143c No.6484
I have ordered a detector now,which can read up to 2000ppm.
There is no chance to get a mobile device that can read up to 10000ppm here.
Atleast I know that I need a concentration that is atleast 2000ppm for atleast 1 hour.
I will additionally, to burning some charcoal, bring sulfuric acid and formic acid together.
I have lightened up a grill for the first time in my life a few days ago, an instant grill, but it already produced so much flames and a bit of smoke.
With 2-3 kg charcoal, it would be unimaginable for people not to notice outsides.
Also the heat was quite something.
Then again, it was was natural charcoal.
I read that Briquettes burn at a lower temperature.
But due to all sorts of chemicals it might produce more smoke.
812b01 No.6485
>>5262Lurking more. There is nothing complicated here. It is very elementary as long as you understand some basic physics. I spend most of my time studying random information online, and google makes it exceedingly easy to get access to whatever information you need. It is in no way remarkable and anybody who displayed as much autism as myself would easily come to the same conclusions about the methodologies involved. Suicide with co is very nice idiot proof method. Like in the military with the claymores this side towards enemy. you can't fuck this up as long as you have a sealed space, coal and time. You will succeed. There is tremendous room for air, no pun intended, unlike with many other methods.
b762f3 No.6510
Could we get some informed opinions on how much smoke can be expected from doing this inside a car or building?
c98cf2 No.6512
>>6510I think this really depends on the charcoal you use, natural ones vs. Briquettes and even the quality of it.
But with a car it shouldn't be a problem.
I mean, having a car means you instantly won.
You can drive to anywhere you want, search for a quiet place and when the smoke has set down you simply put it into your car and seal the car with a bit of tape within.
Man, I am 28 and I don't even have a license.
This is now coming back at me, even in my last moments, fuck.
7e143c No.6514
Ok, I need BIG help from you people now.
What kind of grill can pack 2-3 kg of charcoal briquettes at once?
And why are those grills so expensive?
Doesn't a bucket do the job basically?
Though I need to elevate it from the ground.
Any solutions?
812b01 No.6527
>>6514You won't need 2-3 kg unless you are in a really large space. 1 kg would be fine for a car. 1kg of charcoal in the briquette style will be about 35 briquettes.
More coals + more perforation / oxygen = higher temperature. However more coals also means the coals burn longer and so does less oxygen and restricted airflow. Ideally you want to keep the perforation only partially opened and having more coals will keep the grill burning longer which should be your main concern.
Yeah you can just use a metal bucket if you perforate the bottom so that air can flow in through the bottom and out the top with the rising heat. Also keep the grill off the ground I suppose by setting it on something so the holes are not obstructed and you don;t want to burn your car. That will work.
c98cf2 No.6530
>>6527The biggest problem is that I don't have a car, neither can I rent one cause no license.
10m³ (2m*2m*2.5m) is about the Volume of the bath.
812b01 No.6532
>>6530ok well. It is very hard to write down an absolute amount of coal you will need because there are many factors influencing the production of co.
Including the oxygen and co2 density, the temperature, the air circulation, the humidity of the air and the composition of the coal used as well as burning time.
But here is the basics. A cubic meter of air weighs ~1.2 kg. One kg of coal will ultimately produce ~3x it's weight in in carbon dioxide (this is possible because of the the oxygen.) In practice with an incomplete burning of coal it is lower obviously. Coal is mostly carbon, once the carbon is gone.. where has it gone? …the air.
Typically indoors the amount of oxygen in the air is 10-20% of volume or weight.
We can see in 10 cubic meters of air there is approx 1.2 x ~.15 x 10 kg oxygen. = 1.8 kg oxygen / 2 (one carbon two oxygen) = 2.7 kg carbon dioxide. / 3 =
.9 kg coal / carbonSo one kilo of coal would not finish burning in a 10 cubic meter area before it had used up all available oxygen.
However when oxygen levels are low instead of producing co2 coal will begin to produce co. We can establish you only need 1% of the air to be co to have an instant death. This is not enough volume to impact our calculations.
We can say if there is enough coal to turn all of the oxygen into co2 than we will have excess co production. But in reality the proportion of oxygen burned will never reach 100%, the oxygen will not be completely consumed only about ~70%, so we already have a pretty significant margin of error.
I can say for 10 cubic meters one kilogram of coal, provided it is good coal, will be plenty. That may be a good rule of thumb to follow, however also consider if there is air leaking from your area and fresh oxygen entering this could either increase the volume you need based in the rate of airflow. As long as the flow of air is less than a 1-3 cubic meters an hour there should be no problem.
That being said if you have the means, there will not be a harm in using excess coal. So if you can use more without significant hazards, than you may want too.
c98cf2 No.6533
>>6532Thanks for the long explanation.
The question is also Briquettes or Natural wooden charcoal?
The latter one produces higher temperature which is definitely a con. But if it is easier to produce CO with this, I'd go with it.
Can we generally say that higher quality, more expensive charcoal is better to produce CO?
What still is a concern me and which I don't understand, is the CO2.
CO2 induces choking.
Will the CO concentration reach a critical level before there is so much CO2 in the air that you start choking?
812b01 No.6539
>>5996I don't know about the quality of your commentating ( not an expert on hanging though i do know if executed properly it is effective regardless of trauma or pain one might suffer) but I really enjoy the song you provided.
>>6533Use Briquettes if possible. Black = carbon as a rule of thumb. Temperature does effect the output of co, however for our purposes it is mostly inconsequential bedsides the risk of fire. Higher temperature would probably increase the rate of co2 production and depletion of oxygen. But also higher rate of temperature does increase the amount of total oxygen transferred into c02 which slows rate of co production. However after O2 is consumed to a degree, co production will start.
I would like to stress for all the technicalities we are considering here. It really is mostly theoretical and even using amounts or quantities even exceeding what is recommended here is very likely to result in sucesss. Let us remember the Greeks were the first to recognize the effect of charcoal burning inducing suicide in their warmed baths. The Greeks were not scientists or technical experts. But they recognized burning wood products in confined spaces induced death surely. If ancient people with no technical understanding can do it. You can do it as well.
I would like to say that before you breath simply add more fresh coal to the fire. Many times I considered recommending this situation. However the truth is it is not necessary even if ti might increase your chance for sucess. It also introduces risks. I imagine a potential or weight differential to cause the toppling of the grill (imbalance fall over) and cause it too fall over. For the layman it is not necessary and simply increases chances for a fire to generate.
I on one hand would like to congratulate the very meticulous nature of people here, on the other hand I would also like to stress your meticulous and extraneous approach here is unwarranted. This method will work even if you fuck up to a degree, and there is really nothing to fear except fear itself as quot Shakespeare / Churchill even than I doubt you should even fear this.
I would love to talk about the methodology and psychology of death in another thread. I find it highly unlikely death is to be feared. please be bold in your knowledge.
c98cf2 No.6541
>>6539I do not fear death itself, if at all it's the process.
But fear of failure is paralysing me.
Kinda ironic that this is the very feature that kind actually keeps me alive, or atleast has been doing so for about 10 years now.
But thanks to outer pressure, I can overcome it.
b3ae72 No.7167
bump
597a9b No.7501
So, I know charcoal is the topic of discussion, but I had a question, and this is the most on topic thread. Say I have access to propane tanks and a gas grill. Rather than using the grill for co2, could I just do the propane, and I assume a car would be airtight enough, if it was mentioned as a possibility with co2
dedf1e No.7521
Bumping
b3ae72 No.7847
BUMP, what's the best way to do this exactly? Would it be best to use 2 grills? How many charcoal briquettes should be in each, and how long should you leave it burning before you enter the car? Will it matter how much CO2 escapes when I enter the car?
b762f3 No.7893
>>7847If you want answers, don't sage-bump, you fucking retard. And did you even read the fucking thread? I would encourage you to do so, and use your brain's power to extrapolate. The information is here.
7a33d9 No.8619
How am I supposed to take a charcoal grill large enough (in addition to the briquettes) out on a one-way hiking/camping trip? I would imagine all of this would be heavy. Anyone with experience camping/hiking like this?
I'm young, so I should be able to accomplish such a trip, but I want to do this deep in the woods, accidentally, on a dark and cold winter night.
Looking forward to my darwin award.
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f9a8db No.9033
>>9001
I have similar concerns. From what I've read here, 2-3 kg should be fine for a big room, or 1 kg in a smaller one. I'm debating whether I want to do this in my bedroom or the bathroom. I have roommates and I don't want to burn the place down or accidentally kill them too., but if they're not in a sealed area they should be fine.
000000 No.9497
Informative thread. Thanks guys.
000000 No.11024
>Bumping for being on-topic, informative, useful, and relevant.
b48b4f No.11053
>>8619
you don't need to take a giant grill with you chum, a disposable one like this will do
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Ez-Grill-4831-2-Part-Disposable-Instant-BBQ-Grill/21062063
maybe you could buy a couple to be sure, but these are definitely capable of killing you
i've read plenty of news stories about campers who (accidentally) died after taking a smouldering disposable grill into their tent in an effort to stay warm
b48b4f No.11057
000000 No.11068
>>11057
Thanks for this >>>/suicide/ guide:
>[Get a] portable barbecue … one of those metal bucket ones … lit the coals [wait until] … the barbecue embers [have] burnt out … carr[y] the barbecue inside [y]our tent … [zip] the door carefully to seal all the gaps
not implying you should wait until the embers have completely burnt out, do it when it's heat won't melt your tent anymore
000000 No.11069
>>11068
>not implying you should wait until the embers have completely burnt out
Because they carried the bbq when there
>was no heat in it at all.
And even though his wife/grillfriend was closer to the source and was killed, he suffered some pretty nasty side effects:
>I felt disorientated and my right arm, trapped beneath me, was completely numb. My senses were screaming that something was terribly wrong.
>there was an agonising pressure inside my skull. My arm was still numb, but my shoulder was searing with pain.
>I must have seemed drugged. I couldn't walk, my speech was slurred and I had trouble concentrating.
>I was so dehydrated my veins collapsed, and my blood pressure was barely detectable.
000000 No.11071
>>11069
Also
>I was in intensive care for two weeks, and underwent oxygen replacement therapy to reverse the effects of the carbon monoxide.
b48b4f No.11078
>>11069
not really a suicide guide, i wouldn't wait 5 hours and take a dead bbq into your tent
there's only really enough fuel to burn efficiently for 60-90 mins, after that put it in your tent, put it on a brick or something if it's too hot still
don't get in the tent with it, you'd let the CO build up then get in
when you do go in, if you don't pass out within a few minutes of being in there, come out and try again later
the last thing you want to do is fall asleep naturally next to one of these when you're not sure if it's giving off enough CO, you might not die and wake up like this guy
000000 No.11080
>>11078
You're right, wasn't really that serious here.
>i wouldn't wait 5 hours and take a dead bbq into your tent
Nope, me neither, bad idea.
>put it on a brick or something if it's too hot still
What? I don't know if that's what i'd do
>you'd let the CO build up then get in
Yes. Do that.
>when you do go in, if you don't pass out within a few minutes of being in there, come out and try again later
So you act like a sort of human CO detector, could work.
>the last thing you want to do is fall asleep … you might not die and wake up like this guy
Just make sure you got the lethal amount for ~30 minute exposure to the CO
I don't know if tents are good for this, haven't really looked into this, but they're really portable and cheap.
148124 No.13808
If I were to do this in a car parked in a garage, do you think there would be any threat to the people inside the house? I don't want anyone else getting injured or dying from my attempt.
000000 No.13810
>>13808
is there any way you could take the car to a deserted parking lot (at night) or a woodsy area?
148124 No.13812
>>13810
I could drive to a parking lot. But lighting the fire outside the car might draw a cop or someone's attention. That alone makes me wary.
Is it likely that a significant amount gas would escape from the car and somehow enter the house?
000000 No.13814
>>13812
lol damn i'm dumb, i didn't think about the fire raising suspicion.
i don't think it would leech out significantly - not enough to kill, but it *could* hurt someone, so if i was you i'd wait for a time when you know no one will be home for a day or two. then put up signs all around the car, "do not open, poison gas" etc. and leave notes near the entrance of the home so the housemates see them right away and stay out of the house and garage especially. i'd avoid putting signs on the outside of the house door in case the mailman sees them or something.
000000 No.13815
>>13814
and by "notes near the entrance" i mean when the open the house door they see the warnings.
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552f6c No.14017
>>4644
The point of carbon monoxide is that it is created when burning where there is not enough oxygen
c6f83d No.14024
I am considering charcoal myself.
>go in the woods.
>set up tent.
>burn charcoal and somehow not melt the tent while CO2 levels get higher.
>bonus: slather myself in delicious things that insects and animals like to eat so that my body isn't identified as easily or at all.
f7f0a8 No.14027
>>14024
>>bonus: slather myself in delicious things that insects and animals like to eat so that my body isn't identified as easily or at all.
Won't you be inside a sealed tent?
f7f0a8 No.14028
I've decided CO is the way to go. I need a few months to plan, sell all my shit and get my affairs in order. I'm thinking June 11 is the date. A good friend of mine killed himself on June 11 after finding out his wife was cheating on him.
148124 No.14240
I'd like to go with CO, but I can't seem to figure out a remote place to park my car and start a fire without being noticed. How the fuck do I find such a place?
000000 No.14242
>>14024
>>14028
>>14240
Yeah, I've decided roughly a year ago I'll be going with CO.
I have access to a small room that can be easily sealed.
How I will do it:
- First make sure the room I will be putting the burning charcoal in is properly sealed, so that CO will be produced since there is no ventilation.
- Then burn the charcoal outside until the coals turned gray and it has stopped smoking.
- Then bring the burning charcoal inside the room.
- Close the door, make sure everything remains sealed.
- Wait roughly 70 minutes for the CO levels to become lethal in 10-20 minutes of exposure
- Go inside, close the door, make sure everything's sealed.
- Lose consciousness withing 5 minutes
- Die in 10-20 minutes
Someone on here suggested to have a BBQ meal before dying, which is not a bad idea :)
f7f0a8 No.14255
>>14240
I live in Canada so it's pretty easy to just pick a direction and drive for a couple of hours.
f7f0a8 No.14256
>>14242
Put up warning signs and make sure there are no other people in the building so you don't end up accidentally killing somebody else.