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898171 No.4931

Is there anything I should know about jumping? I stay in Scotland and am thinking of taking a train journey down south to here

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beachy_Head

I wanna go here mostly to get as far away from family as I can as to not have them deal with finding me or whatever. I should be fine with the whole jumping part, heights don't bother me and I'd probably be intoxicated at the time anyway. I just really wanna know, is it as simple as just jumping or is there more to it I should know? Like falling head first or whatever

72e4f2 No.4943

>>4931

i'm waiting until i can get a driver's license so I can drive out there one day pretending that I'm going to go somewhere to take pictures or something. I live two counties away so it should be a quick ride. Then it's just walking on the edge finding a part where there's rocks below. Then again it's two times higher than jumping off the Golden Gate, and most people died from that, so falling into water shouldn't be a problem.

But yeah, try to reposition yourself so your head is the point of impact, and don't flail your arms or do something that might slow you down - although at Beachy's height, falling onto 5 stacks of pillows with your legs will still completely kill you.

72e4f2 No.4945

>>4943

although word of warning, read that there's some wankers who patrol the area looking for jumpers. That's why I wanna go out as a photographer, make it seem like I just want to take some cool snaps from the edge, and then quickly hop off, and nobody's the wiser.

So make sure you don't just stand on the edge for hours, and just jump down as soon as you know you're standing over the high part.

8ab6eb No.5027

>531 feet

jesus, how long would it take to fall that far?

72e4f2 No.5037

>>5027

531 ft = ~162 m
Acceleration of object = 9.8 m/s^2
Terminal velocity for average human body = 56 m/s
56 / 9.8 = ~5.7 seconds to reach TV
56/162 distance covered by that time.
162 - 56 = 105
105 / 56 = ~1.9 seconds
Full distance covered by that time
5.7 + 1.9 = 7.6 seconds

7.6 seconds to fall that far for an average human body.

1918cc No.5063

>>5037

>56/162 distance covered by that time.

u wut m8?

9.8+19.6+29.4+39.2+49+56*.6= 180 meters, you should just barely reach terminal velocity.

Should take about 5 1/2 seconds

1918cc No.5168

>>5164
There is no way they are going to know you are going to jump unless you make it obvious or tell someone. It really won't matter. However that being said you have just committed an enormous security breach already. Having told us the approximate location and time of our planned death. If I was a troll I would contact the samaratins now and they would be waiting for you possibly. Who knows what other methods they might use to further pin you down especially since you said you are likely to be alone and said you may be intoxicated, it could be very easy to spot you.

At this point for your own security you may want to mix up your story / plan.

5c14a6 No.5169

>>5168
Well shit. I did consider that but figured this would be the one safe place to discuss it. What would someone get out of doing that anyway?

1918cc No.5172

>>5169
mmm, trolls are everywhere. They believe they are helping you. They might not post because they will be banned for telling you not to do it. People derive a sense of self importance from influencing others and changing the course of human events.

Some people have fantasies about saving lives. If they knew how easy it was to "save a life" by just watching the posts on this board they would probably do it. Remember anyone can lurk here.

Anyway, I really think death is trivial. Even if I were to accept the materialistic conceptualization of death and reject dualism. I ask myself what is life like after death and the answer is nothingness. Then I wonder well if after death is nothingness, than what is before birth? Also nothingness. So why do people fret so much about nothingness after death but nobody ever worries about nothingness before life? It is because I think as humans we are biologically programmed to always be concerned about how our next action affects us for survival purposes. Rarely if ever to people consider implications of past events on their personal philosophy of right and wrong.

If I follow the philosophy that suicide is a wrong, then really I also have to follow the philosophy that not having as many children as possible is also wrong. Because both end up shortening the totality of experienced life.

Who is to say truly what life and death and before birth is all about. Nobody honestly knows the answers; why we own this personal experience unto ourselves. My own personal belief is a more holistic interpretation, but I have nothing beyond bayesian rationalizing to reinforce my own suspicions.

72e4f2 No.5187

>>5169

hey i read about some fucker who nearly drove his land rover off the edge (nearly cause they convince him not to do it cause of his kids), so i suppose you could drive a car onto the edge somehow, the just jump out and hop off the edge, or drive straight off with no seatbelt etc and die in your car

cant do jack shit to stop you now

but ffs dont be fuckin drink youll fuck it up you fuckin clown

5c14a6 No.5188

>>5187
How could I possibly fuck it by being drunk? I mean, is a 500ft drop.

72e4f2 No.5191

>>5188

youll fuckin jump off at the wrong part, you wont do it quickly enough, youll reconsider and shy away, people may make the connection that: drunk man staggering about + world's third most popular suicide spot = hmm maybe we should do something about it

thats of course unless you aren't going TOO drunk, but then that means you aren't getting drunk enough to get depressed, so there's no reason to get drunk at all then

5c14a6 No.5192

>>5191
When I said drunk I meant more just a bit of Dutch courage. Down a bottle of Buckfast once I'm walking and just leap

1918cc No.5193

>>5192
You'll make it m8, Just stay cool. I will be there with you in spirit. I will be going shortly afterwards.

72e4f2 No.5194

>>5192
>>5193

hopefully might join you lads down there in 2 years or so

afebec No.5231

I've been to Beachy Head and have also been stopped by the chaplains that patrol there looking for suicidal people. They sic'd the police on me. Got sectioned.

Should have timed it better, 0/10, would not recommend hesitating.

5c14a6 No.5234

>>5231
How quick were they? I don't plan on hesitating. If I just make a beeline for the cliff and jump they won't stop me? Like they won't physically restrain me will they? If they just try to talk to me I will just bolt and try to run to the edge

5c14a6 No.5235

>>5231
Also this is more just out of curiosity, but what exactly happens when your sectioned? I always thought they sectioned people who were planning to harm others. Sectioning people for attempting suicide seems silly and counterproductive

afebec No.5278

>>5234
>>5235

They were very quick, but they already knew I was a risk, they spotted my car and stopped me when I got out of it - the police had told them to look out for me. I tried to bolt but running is distressing due to an old spinal injury.

They can restrain you but they'd rather try verbal co-ersion and wait until the police backup arrives.. those fuckers will restrain you.

When I got sectioned, the police turned up and section 136'd me, put me in their car and drove to the nearest hospital place of safety. Stayed there for 3 days under observation, and had a meeting with a doctor and a social worker - two of the most disinterested people ever. They put me under section 2 and transferred to my local psych triage ward. I wasn't a danger to anyone else, and was denying being a danger to myself.

From there, I wasn't allowed out for the next 3 weeks due to a series of staff cockups, was medicated heavily, had no therapy or therapeutic contact, and tried to hang myself in there. I got out after 4 weeks as I appealed the section and went to Tribunal. So basically, nothing happens except you get locked in a room for a month or so. Experiences may vary by hospital though, and this wasn't a great one.

My first cigarette after all that was amazing. First joint was even better.

Ask if there's anything else you'd like to know.

afebec No.5279

>>5234
>I don't plan on hesitating.

I didn't either but got up there and needed a second just to process everything, the beauty of where I was and what I was about to do.

Also, the word filter changes pain-ful to distressing.

5c14a6 No.5281

>>5278
Wow that sucks. I will never understand the logic behind the extremes people go to "save" suicidal people.

how had being sectioned affected you? Have you/do you plan on trying again? One of the biggest reasons I want to jump is because of the low chance of survival. I want to die, not hurt myself. If I'm just gonna get stopped and sectioned then maybe I need to think this over and find a way around being stopped

5c14a6 No.5285

>>5278
Also not sure how familiar you are with the area but I don't have car. My plan is to get a train to London, then a train to either Brighton or Eastbourne. From there I will either get a bus, or if it's close enough/I just feel like a stroll I will walk to the cliff. I'm curious though how feesible is the walking part? Is close enough to brighton/Eastbourne?

afebec No.5297

>>5281

Sectioning was not a fun experience. If you have the kind of illness that is made better by being in a contained place, or if you have never been in before or don't have therapy on the outside, then it might be more helpful for you than me. I hate having control taken away from me, and some of the patients were threatening. They had to inform my family against my wishes, who had no idea.

Strangely enough though, it was useful in getting my mood to shift to feel anything other than suicidalness, and prompted a manic phase which is quite rare for me. It meant that things were fine for a couple of months. It kept me alive when I was determined not to be.

I tried again when I was sectioned but it was badly thought out - hospitals are designed so you can't do that. Plan now on barbiturate overdose but that'll take months and money to accumulate. Have you tried before?

There's not a high chance of being stopped, as it's part of a national park or something there are people walking their dogs and wandering around on strolls. The reason they got me is that the police were aware I was missing, with a history of mental illness/suicide, and therefore looking for me and had passed my details on to chaplains to keep an eye out. If they don't know you're missing, they can't look for you.

I was drawn to Beachy Head as it's a certainty too, but in retrospect next time I'd go somewhere less well known for suicide seeing as how they know my reg now. Definitely make sure that you've thought around all the possibilities, including whether or not you can be helped and people who will want to save you.

afebec No.5298

>>5285

Only really know directions by car.. Brighton is miles away so Eastbourne is closer, and walking may be feasible but it's still a good couple of miles. Might need to google map that.

afebec No.5300

>>4931

Why all the way from Scotland? There must be something nearer?

Family are always going to have to identify your body, unless you're unrecognisable. It's nice you want to protect them in some way though.

85f052 No.5306

>>5297
Man sectioning sounds horrible. Seems like most of the things they put in place like that would only make people more suicidal/unstable, I know it would for me. Hope you can get the barbiturates sooner rather than later anon.

I've kind of tried twice. First time was using a helium tank I bought off amazon. I guess there wasn't enough actual helium in it though, I passed out/fell asleep for 20 minutes (could have been that I was just tired I dunno) then woke up and the tank was near empty. Second time I tried partial suspension hanging, turns out though that restricting the cartoid isn't as easy as people say when you are super skinny and I couldn't do it without ending up just suffocating, which proved too hurtful. So now I'm just gonna do something with 100% possibility, like beachy head.

I've been depressed most of my life, though lived in denial about it due to a lot of self esteem issues. I'm in my early 20s now, and just generally fed up. I left uni because of anxiety, I was living alone and could barely leave the house without either being super drunk or having a panic attack, so my attendance dropped and I got kicked out. My problems are nothing compared to most people here I understand, and feel bad for comparing myself I guess, but I'm just fed up. Nothing makes md happy, I have never had any friends due to crippling social anxiety, and no one that I really care about besides my parents, who are quietly ashamed of me, and just think I'm a pathetic lazy failure, which to be fair I am. I'm also incredibly nihilistic and existentialistic and life just feels pointless I guess.

Thanks for the advice though. I'm gonna take one last look at travel details and try to get Down there sometime soon. I wish you luck with finding peace anon.

>>5300
Eh, I guess I just want to get as far away from here to do it as possible. I guess I'm kinda also hoping that I will just end up seen as missing and not dead. Either way I guess once I'm dead that's it though. Won't really matter after that

85f052 No.5307

>>5298
Ah cool, I'll check out about getting to Eastbourne and seeing about walking routes. Thanks.

afebec No.5310

>>5306

Some of the helium tanks are shit, they mix oxygen in with the helium to dilute it, meaning it's fairly useless for suicide. Thought about this before and what you've just described is the reason I haven't tried.
Hanging is tricky too, it just felt like my head was gonna explode and I'm making strange unhuman gargling raspy sounds.

Wow, the way you described yourself sounds like me, except replace the alcohol with almost any other drug. In my 20s, dropped out of uni for a year but went back, but after I finished was so messed up that couldn't do anything else. Anhedonic. People terrify me too.

It's nice to meet someone who feels similar.

Not to be 'that person' but has getting counselling or anything helped?

Your problems are bad enough that you're thinking about dying, so don't be too dismissive of yourself, they're clearly significant to you. Sounds like you're in a lot of pain and whatever happens I hope you find peace too, and although I wish that you didn't have to find it through Beachy Head and that something else helps, I also know that you're the only judge of when enough is enough.

Scotland - Eastbourne is a long journey for people to be able to figure out you're missing and get worried though.

85f052 No.5327

>>5310
Same feeling here. Feels comforting to meet someone so similar. Glad I found this place, oy wish I found it sooner, maybe if I had and hadn't relied on halfchan for advice, my first few attempts would have gone smoother.

as for counselling, I've been on a CBT course for the last month or so. I can sort of see how it would help someone who is just starting to get depressed, or for general minor cases of depression, but for severe cases and anyone who is far enough gone to wind up here, it just feels patronising and futile. Also been on antidepressants but they have done little beyond numb me emotionally and turn me totally apathetic. At this point I just don't feel like there is another way out. Or, more accurately, I don't think I even care enough to find an alternate. I am not going to be one of those people that says that no one really wants to die - I know that's not true. But I don't honestly believe that there is anyone who wants suicide to become what they feel is there only option. If I could just hit a button and have everything be perfect, id take that over suicide any say, but as it stands I feel I've made my mind and came to terms with my decision.



The journey time isn't too bad. I have worked out that I should have a good 6 hours or so period of time before anyone notices I'm gone, by which point I will hopefully be approaching London. Also no one will expect me to be going to beachy head so I doubt the chaplains will be on the lookout.

If you don't mind me asking, what's your reasons for reaching this point? You also sound pretty determined to find a way out.

you're a nice guy, and I really wish you the best of luck in life and death. I hope you find the solution you want, whether it be suicide or otherwise.

ac1c11 No.5953

Watched a somewhat interesting doco on youtube about Beachy Head this morning. It seemed pretty easy to do it, but back when the film was made I don't think they had the people who patrol the area.

Also, there were two survivors interviewed. I'm pretty sure both of them landed on a piece of cliff that was jutting out; so make sure you jump at the right spot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgagkn74dNk

15582b No.8118

Wonder if OP is gone yet. Thinking of doing the same as him.


72e4f2 No.8119

>>8118

http://www.bhct.org.uk/wp/category/searches-and-incidents/

According to that, there were 6 deaths since OP made that post.

And holy shit suicidal fuckers are common around there.

Gotta be careful to avoid the chaplain wankers.


314f2a No.8123

>>8119

I'd love to see where they come from though. It'd be interesting to see how many are locals and how many travelled a long way to get there


20dcd4 No.8882

Shit, drive your car off too, that will be more fun


72e4f2 No.8938

>>8882

gonna be a bitch to clean up tho

with a person they just send down a guy to stuff you in a bag and then rappel the guy back up

but a car that's designed to crumple and fall apart on impacts, and likely get thrown apart far from such a height, is really gonna fuck shit up

if its large enough it might fuck shit up enough for an explosion, and you're really gonna ruin those wankers' day


bc457b No.8978

Jumping from Beachy Head has always been the way I planned to do it. As soon as I'm sure I'm gonna get the train to Eastbourne, buy all my favourite sweets (I really have a sweet tooth) and some alcohol, then have a party for one walking around listening to my favourite music until it's time, play my favourite song one last time, then jump.

But yeah, my main worry is all the people trying to stop people jumping. I'll probably take my bike along and act casual, then haul ass to the edge.


72e4f2 No.8988

>>8978

>alcohol, then have a party for one walking around listening to my favourite music until it's time, play my favourite song one last time, then jump.

This is actually a really fucking awful thing to do, unless you want some Chaplain wanker to grab you by your nuts as you're having your dumb drunken stroll.

Have your stupid emotion-filled trip on the train; don't show any emotion the second you stop foot on Eastbourne land, make it seem as if you have a clear purpose for being on Beachy Head as soon as you're near the cliffs, and walk the fuck off without ever turning back or thinking twice.

If you stop for a few minutes while taking your mind off of everyone currently within a hundred metres of you, then don't blame me when some bloke in a high-vis jacket is holding you in a headlock and dragging you away from the edge. Don't drink any alcohol too, as alcohol can lead to emotions and emotions can lead to you taking yourself out of the "I'm just gonna do it, no turning back" mindset that you should be constantly at that day. I'd also heavily advise against listening to your songs and shit, as you really don't want to feel any sadness or regret as to what you're about to do, as the tiniest amount of hesitation is gonna fuck up the last few minutes and seconds (or longer, if you actually do pussy out) you'll have on this shitty world.


2d464f No.9013

Where are the ledges? How do you avoid them? That's what causes failures apparently. Can't risk being stopped whilst trying to survey the terrain and looking lost.

Is the highest spot easy to find?


72e4f2 No.9015

>>9013

>Can't risk being stopped whilst trying to survey the terrain and looking lost.

Pretty sure there will be other people looking over the edge and seeing how high they are up, unless everyone there has walked on those cliffs 500 times before. If you are walking near to the edge and look down around you, I'm pretty sure that this won't be taken as a sign of you looking for the best place to hop off.

>Where are the ledges?

Just walk along the edge looking out for where you can see will be a steep drop. Remember that this place is the best to get out of your vehicle and onto the cliffs at, as it is the highest: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.736926,0.24319,3a,75y,87.32h,96.05t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sevzceoXoZe5mo28i4f4jgw!2e0

Then walk south-west until the lighthouse is almost perfectly perpendicular to you and the cliffs. Jump off there, as that will have the least ledges, and is mostly just a straight fall (or ledges low enough that you'll already be travelling fast enough and bounce of them to fall down more).

> How do you avoid them?

By using your fucking eyes, and taking a leap? Do you want printed instructions on how to jump off a fucking cliff?


cdefb8 No.9016

So this seems like a popular method. Would anyone be up for organising a group meet up for this? Is there a safe, secure way to organise such a thing without being identified and stopped?

I know a lot of people are also scared of the chaplains, maybe if we got a small group, like 3 or more it would look less suspicious


b01f79 No.9017

>>9016

since im not british and im a poorfag living across the ocean,i cannot join this,but i have an idea for you guys.If this does happen and alot of people show up,why not jump in "waves"?

let me explain,lets assume 12 anons show up.you should jump in waves of 4,with 2 minutes between each wave.The wankers will never see it coming,a bunch of suicidal fucks jumping from beachy head overwhelming their numbers.Of course,each wave must hide or disquise as tourists or else by the second or third wave the wankers would have figured it out.


3ead88 No.9019

>>9017

I doubt anybody is going to make their suicide dependent upon others too dysfunctional or emotionally fucked to find life easy enough to carry on with. Not in such an elaborate way, anyway. One person could ruin it all, and get a lot of people sectioned.

>>9015

No harm making sure. But thanks.


c4ce6f No.9276

Is this really sure if you do it right? Not going to end up paralysed? And has anyone looked into how painful or not it will be?


72e4f2 No.9317

>>9276

>Is this really sure if you do it right?

Obviously.

>has anyone looked into how painful or not it will be?

Well, considering you die from impact, the only pain you can get is from falling through air particles too fast.


72e4f2 No.10169

So just checked it out and the Chapliancy team hasn't updated their blog in over 2 months. Really hoping that this means they've stopped their patrols lol.

www.bhct.org.uk/wp/category/searches-and-incidents/


72e4f2 No.11931

>>11910

why the fuck are you bumping this

what more possible fucking discussion do you want



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