/suicide/ - Suicide Tips & Tricks

>>7913

>>7913

>>7913

I have no idea how though. Is there some guide online about how to do this? Do I literally just tie the bedsheet into a noose? I assumed that would just rip apart

>>7920

Just fucking practice man.

>>7945

Problem is I don't know what to practice. Am I literally just tying the sheets into a noose or what?

>>7920

Idk man. Just seems a better option than a ripped t shirt. Learn how to tie a simple noose and see if you can play around with it. That's really the only way - to experiment.

>>7946

>>7948

Twist them tightly, stupid.

>>7950

This along with the stick thing confuses the shit out of me. What do I twist? Where the fuck do you put the rope?

>>7640

>>7641

This should help

first video shows some serial killer doing the stick thing

http://www.amazon.com/Softt-nh-SOF-Tactical-Tourniquet-SOFTT-NH/dp/B006QLKVSI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1429564803&sr=8-3&keywords=tourniquet

so could I easily use this to off myself?

>>7961

Yeah, it just has to fit around your neck.

Bump

>>7960

Do you have any more videos of serial killers describing the methods they used in detail? If anyone knows how to efficiently kill a person it must be them.

http://www.insideprison.com/suicide-methods-in-prison.asp

> Some have used pencils, as short as a few inches, to simulate a tourniquet with shoelaces. Some have tied their necks and a radiator pipe and simply continuously twisted their bodies to eventually cut off the circulation. Some inmates have successfully hanged themselves from no more than 6 inches off the floor, and from vertical pipes on the walls as opposed to horizontal pipes on the ceiling.

Thanks /suicide/,you answered my prayers,going to try this once i have a nice and wide window of opportunity.A big hug and a loud 'thank you' to all anons who posted instructions,pictures and videos.Since this method seems to be the real deal,i make a humble request to the mods to sticky this thread,if this is not possible i kindly ask /suicide/ to keep this thread alive as long as possible for the future anons looking for a quick way out.

Bump

Ok so I was going to wait until July to do this since its when I'd have time alone but honestly I'm hitting break point. I tested it briefly today and got it to work but stopped because my family were home and I didn't want to risk being interrupted.

how long do I need? I live in a small flat with 4 other people and have no real private space. I need to do it in the bathroom but since they all know about my suicidal ideas they are pretty persistent about not leaving me alone. Say I was to get up tomorrow morning, get up and get things ready. I'm thinking of saying I'm going for a shower and doing it then with the noise of the shower to cover up me. Problem is though my shower turns off automatically after 15 minutes, so accounting for set up time it probably leaves me a 10 minute windows. Would this be enough time assuming everything goes well and I constrict the carotid succesful?

Tested this method myself today. Seems incredibly easy when you use JWG's method of double knotting it and using the pen to twist. Soon, hopefully. I just need the weather to get a little nicer.

>>8428

Let me understand this correctly:

1. Get a ratchet tie and a tie

2. Put it around my neck

3. Tuck a towel in on either side of the windpipe so that my arteries will be compressed

4. Ratchet the ratchet as much as I can before passing out

5. ???

6. Profit/die

Correct?

About the john Wayne gacy rope trick, im borderline retarded apparatus and doing this to myself is harder than I thought. How the fuck do you tie the knot and insert the pencil behind your neck without looking? Or am I being dumb? Does the knot need to go at the back?

>>8456

no idea about that anon,to tie the knot behind your back you must turn your fingertips into your eyes,you must see by feeling your fingertips touching your neck and the rope in order to do it,this is the most complicated part about this,and no,i dont think the knots goes on the front since the rope must be below the chin and above your adams apple,and there is not alot of room to insert and twist a stick there.

>>8456

Shit,anon,i was practicing this last night and got blocked by the same problem,i managed to tie only one knot,after this point my fingers go full retarded and i end up undoing the first knot.Anyone can teach us a way to tie knots behind our backs?i thought of using a mirror but it did not helped me much.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00ELR8ISO/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?qid=1431281206&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX110_SY165&keywords=ratchet+strap&dpPl=1&dpID=51sDDXs1jXL&ref=plSrch

will this work for it? Is this the type of strap they mean?

>>8511

i think it is.

also can anyone help with the problem im having about tying knots behind your neck?i going for the john wayne gacy rope trick and im having trouble with the knots.

>>8509

Good luck friend, I really hope you find what you're looking for

>>8456

I figured it out by trying really fucking hard last night,theres no other way man,you gotta keep trying,i finally managed to learn it by not giving up on this method even though im also retarded when it comes to knots.Well now im ready to die,just gotta sit tight and wait for a good opportunity now.Im feeling really good after learning this method

>>8560

Im going for the John Wayne Gacy method m8,this is completly different from it,not to mention that im retarded with knots and i only managed to learn how to do it 2 days ago.

Well, here i go. Time to see if this is gonna work. I pray to whatever there is to pray to that it does, because i have no fucking idea what im gonna do if this fails.

See you all on the otherside, or not, good luck to you all in finding peace, however that may be.

Would combining this with a plastic bag work? I got a plastic bag that fits over my head well and the only holes are at the opening. I was thinking that, since people say it can be difficult to compress the arteries, maybe if I put the bag over head then tie the ligature tight enough to not choke me, but seal the bag shut I could suffocate myself. Any flaws in this that I'm missing?

>>8582

yes there is,you will panic due to suffocation and claw or even bite the bag out of your head or making small holes which air can flow through,ruining your attempt.

In order to stop this you must restrain your hands and your arms and covering your mouth with something,but even if you restrain your arms,due to panic you will try to get free from your restraints,resulting in painful arm/shoulder/wrist related injuries.

Bag suffocation could work better if you drug yourself unconscious.

I tried this the other day with a ratchet, using towels to try and compress my arteries better. I failed and only succeeded in crushing my windpipe, which I do not want due to choking being an uncomfortable form of death, and the thrashing around that tends to occur when choking would have woken up people in my house and resulted in me being 'saved'. I managed to cut the strap with scissors just before passing out on the floor.

This method is more difficult than I had anticipated.

>>8586

Holy shit man,nice job saving yourself from that mess,do you think the same thing can happen using a tourniquet/John Wayne Gacy rope trick method?please reply ASAP.

>>8586

What about adding stuff to create extra pressure just near the two arteries? Thats honestly what I thought you had to do.. maybe roll up two edges of a hand towel and cram those fat parts up below your ears? A couple socks, soft balls, etc. Hell, maybe your thumb and pointer finger might be enough.

With rope, you might be able to tie something like a couple double overhand knot to create that extra pressure.

Also guys, if you're doing the stick trick, sounds like it would be best to use at least a small pole, something that wont go anywhere when you lie down on it. Seems like it wouldnt take much for something pencil sized to loosen up, if you don't have time to lock it off somehow.

>>8602

>What about adding stuff to create extra pressure just near the two arteries?

I did.

>I tried this the other day with a ratchet, using towels to try and compress my arteries better.

It might just be a quirk of my anatomy though - my arteries seem deeply set in the neck, plus my windpipe sticks out more than usual above the adam's apple. Or perhaps I'm just a fuckwit who couldn't get the technique quite right.

>>8605

You will rapidly lose consciousness after the discomfort of the windpipe compression, if you actually get those arteries clamped down. You won't feel the effects of the suffocation and the thrashing around could be mitigated by tying your feet and something as simple as your arms inside your shirt, I think.

My thought on protecting your windpipe is to use a hacksaw to cut a pvc pipe coupler (available at your local hardware store or home depot) in half and create a C shaped piece that will protect your wind pipe while allowing compression beside it. I'm sure other things could also work.

It is really hard to get full compression, even with just your thumbs. I'm experimenting and it seems like pressing straight back, pressing into the firm structures behind the arteries and not behind the windpipe might work better.

Well…shit,tried this last night using the John Wayne Gacy method but i gave up after trying 5 or 6 times.

My first problem was that it did not worked,i sat there,tied a shoelace around my neck,did the knots just like he did and inserted the pen between them and twisted as hard as i could them i waited.anons here and the image said that it could take 10 to 15 secs to pass out but i slowly counted to 200 and nothing fucking happened,i thought that it could be because my hair was in the way so i tried again,this time with knot in front and well,it could have worked,putting the knot in front allowed me to twist the pen even harder than before,and this was when the second problem appeared.

The second problem is that its too fucking unconfortable,its not painful(it does hurt just a little bit though,anyone who says otherwise is lying or im doing it wrong) but its very unconfortable,that huge pressure against my neck scared me a little but i was serious about dying,i kept waiting and twisting the pen but,besides a small difficulty on breathing,i was fine,my vision did not fade out or anything,i was just fine.

i got sick for waiting for anything to happen and gave up.I think that the reason it failed was because i did not twisted the pen hard enough.The pen was already very hard to twist but it was possible to turn it more,but i was afraid of crushing my windpipe so i gave up.Also everytime it was getting tight my mouth started to make a lot if spit and i had the urge to swallow it,but doing so resulted in a small pain and even more discomfort.

Can anyone give me some help here?am i doing it wrong? Im really sad to have to live another day.

>>8639

anon I tried the same exact method on some fruit and I managed to split it in half with the pressure exerted from the pen on the rope. I'm using paracord from walmart.

When I did my last attempt it was mainly me being a weak willed individual that stopped me, I managed to already feel myself loosing the ability to breath comfortably on the first not.

Had I tightened it all the way then done the second one w/ the pen I would not be here right now.

I just need something to push me over the edge or get medication to dull these emotions long enough. Something to remove my conscious self-preservation instincts would be nice too.

I was so close.

>>8663

I dont understand what you mean,are you using 2 pens?arent you supposed to use only one pen and insert it between the 2 knots?

Also i dont want to split my neck,i need this to be clean and silent,if this method is that powerful i dont want to use it.ironic,i know,it does not make any sense but im planning on Killing myself during the time where everyone home is sleeping,i must be stealthy.

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Suicide/Ligature_strangulation

According to this it shouldnt take much pressure, much less than it takes to close the airway.

Another idea I had, buy some large diameter wooden craft beads, put them on your paracord, and position them where you need the pressure on those carotid arteries. Should focus the few lbs of pressure needed.

Otherwise y'all just need to suck it up for fifteen seconds and deal with the temporary discomfort.

>>8679

Should not take much pressure my ass,this shit is turning out to be complicated,many of us are having problems achieving full compression aside from the discomfort.i can take 15 secs,hell,im the guy that did this for 200 secs and nothing happened FFS.

So hang yourself from a doorknob. Try more variations.

>>8709

Thought about that,not a bad idea but what if it breaks?i already read some stories about people failing because of the place they were hanging from broke.

>>8728

That looks very nice. Good job!

Im retarded,how do i do this while hanging from a doorknob or something similar?What type of knot do i use?Please answer me ASAP,im going to finally have a great opportunity to off myself soon,i cant miss it.

>>8728

The white string is quick-release?

Have you tested it to see if your mind begins to fade?

Белый строка быстрого-релиз?

Вы проверили его, чтобы увидеть, если ваш ум начинает исчезать?

Hey it's me again, OP.

So first off I'm still here, I decided to try to stick around a bit longer and things have gotten a little bit better but then I remembered this thread and checked up.

Man, lots of posts.

I don't know how to feel about all this honestly…

I mean, should I feel bad that I have provided a way for someone to kill themselves? How many people have died from me making this topic?

But then I think to myself, if you guys are suicidal, even if I didn't make this thread you would have killed yourselves.

I have simply provided you a means of doing it safely, quickly, and painlessly, and I have helped you exit a horrible existence that you don't wish to continue.

I know this is all way off topic, but this is just my attempt at trying to make myself feel better about this.

That all being said, I've read a bunch of these posts and it seems I've actually helped alot of people find their way out. I actually did something useful. I'm fucking amazed.

Anyways, for those who are still lingering like me, I hope you find your way.

>>8764

You shouldn't feel bad, you are a wonderful person. If there wouldn't be information sources about suicide like this board many people would actually survive their suicide attempt and become a vegetable or something…

>>8766 is right,dearest OP,you have finally given me what i was looking for:a suicide method that is fast and can be done with items that are easy to acquire such as a shoelace and a pen.

Before this thread i was running in circles looking around for methods until i calmed myself down and decided to lurk this board and wait until Someone posted a great method and 2 weeks later you made this thread.

In the early stages of this thread there was little information and after a few posts it started to die,but upon noticing this i started bumping this thread everyday nagging people for instructions until the thread finally took off and instructions were posted.

This method is most probably the only way for me,i already tried it one week ago and i failed and pulled back but i will try it again very soon,this time i will probably get it right and i will be at peace.

If i do it again and it works,my love for you,OP,will be eternal.even if i fail once more,im still thankful for you,your thread and everyone who posted instructions.

Question:

are ethernet cables resistant enough for a really out of shape tall man? I have an extra one somewhere.

(I no idea what type it is sorry shit's yellow and my ISP gave it to me I assume it's a really common cheap one).

they do look tough but I have no idea.

>>8773

we have advised in this thread 2 times already to not use cables since they are slippery,use a rope or clothes/bedsheets.

One guy here already tried doing it with a cable and he woke up later.

>>8736

Anyone? I've tested it various different ways and each time I'm just ending up suffocating. Any tips for crushing the arteries? Tried putting a towel which didn't help much

>>8781

got it.

>>8782

Anyone? Please Its so frustrating why this isn't working, I have no idea what I'm doing wrong

>>8811

not using your method but i know how you are feeling,when i tried the john wayne gacy method during the night and nothing happened i felt just like you,my guess that we need to apply extreme pressure high on the neck.other than that,i dont know.i hope my next attempt will give me peace.

Carotid compression is tricky.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.suicide.methods/q0TN03lYVec

great resource, dont think this was posted in the thread so far.

>>8849

what about the windpipe? doing it there still lets you breath or it suffocates you? also could you point where in the picture you did it? i will try to kill myself tomorrow by first trying it below the jaw,if i fail i might try again where you are saying its easier.

>>8858

Definitely read this resource

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.suicide.methods/q0TN03lYVec

and read the entire thread. A lot of people are not having success with this method, and its hard to tell how many are, because they dont report back, of course.

You have to figure out how to apply extra pressure to were the arteries are, and less on the windpipe.

>>8870

shit,never mind them,gonna make sure i die by doing the regular way above the adams apple right below the chin.I dont think i can figure out how to do it like that,gotta stick with what im already familiar with.

>>8873

Heh,im trying this right now,i cant get this shit right at all my windpipe keeps butting in.im either retarded or this shit is complicated.its probably both but the former must be the main problem.im going to keep trying,if i dont post "gave up" in this thread today it means im dead.

>>8883

Samefag here,i discovered 3 problems

1-hair keeps getting in the knot and hurts like shit when im twisting the pen,i often need to untwist and get it out of the way

2-my throat is a jerk and starts moving when the pressure starts to get good,causing discomfort and pain

3- either the windpipe keeps moving up the neck and getting in the way or its the shoelace that slides down the windpipe

Good news is that i dont have problems with spit in my mouth and the urge to gulp it down is mostly gone.this method is hard or im useless,im thinking of throwing the towel on this method and try to research something else.courage and willpower are not being a issue,im decided to die but i lack a good method like a gun.i just fucking hate american posters that post about having guns but are scared to shoot themselves in the head,i just want to teleport to their location,steal their gun,kill them and then myself.it has been a while since i got this mad,but im not done yet,i gotta keep trying some more.

>>8884

Samefag again,sorry,im posting my progress here and how im findind and solving problems,so im kind of helping the thread i guess.

Problem 1 is still getting in my way,so if you are going to do this by tourniquet/JWG you should shave your hair off.

But i just found problem 2 is the cause of problem 3,i just cant stop this stupid throat from moving,this way im never going to get anywhere.its because of the movements that the shoelace slides down from the perfect position.im going to keep trying until 12 o clock.i dont think this will work,expect me again .

>>8885

>>8885

>>8886

Shit,sorry about that,browser stopped responding and i accidently hit new reply,anyway saging since this is not imprtant(i was also going to use sage in the post that went wrong,but i fucked up)

Now to the real post,as you can see,im alive,i surrendered to my throat and i give up on ligature.this is too tricky and has too many things that get in your way.

Here is a advice for those who still want to use this method:shave the back of your neck and head,because your hair will get in the knot and mess it up.also hope that your throat does not hate you.

Time to research methods again,i guess,living another day really sucks.

>>8873

What would happen if you only tied off the jugular but you didn't take off the clamp? Would the blood vessels not burst eventually? I guess it'd probably be very painful, like that other anon said who had the pressure behind his eyes, but it'd still work I imagine.

Okay so I'm pretty sure this will work for me because I got the ligature tight enough above my adams apple to where I definately was about to pass out but I withdrew because there's a few things I wanted to take care of first.

Question though, after you pass out I read that your unconscious body will thrash around a bit before you die, does that mean it's a good idea to make sure my house is completely empty before doing this. I'm afraid after I pass out I could fall off my bed or my body will make some kind of noises that will alert someone to try and save me.

>>8919

anon that tried to do this yesterday here,Yes,its better to do this when theres no one home to "save" you,yesterday i was alone during 3 hours so i could have died if i got it right.

what a shame on me for wasting that chance,i know,its not my fault if im too retarded to kill myself using this method,i just could not get it right.

yo for real I tried this but I'm retarded with knots. The one it was supported on was fine but I can't make a good one around my neck to save my life (heh..)

What's a good material for doing this that I can find easily at home? I can't buy a ratchet strap or anything without arousing suspicion that I'm trying to off myself. Things I have in mind include; shoelaces, extension cord, those things that are used to pull window blinds. There's probably more I'm not thinking of.

>>9082

Robin Williams did it with a belt. I've heard stories (stories, mind you) of really desperate prisoners using toilet paper.

>>9089

I'm retarded though. Is there some kind of guide to using a belt? Most belts I have are pretty thin but wide and I can't imagine tying a strong knot being easy

>>9122

Do the belt around your neck. Pull hard. Make a mark with a marker at the buckle. Take it off. Make a hole where you marked it. Do the belt on again and use the new hole for the buckle.

Or:

Make a loop with the belt, nail it to the wall/ cupboard/ whatever. Stick your head trough the loop and test if the nails you hammered can hold you. Then just relax.

No need to ty a knot in a leather belt.

>>9123

You don't need to make a new hole in the belt. The belt will tighten itself through the buckle when tension is applied just like a hangman's noose.

Bump

>>9475

>>9518

>Video about girl using this method in prison.

So I just decided to try offing myself by partial suspension hanging.

Obviously it was a failure but I gained some info and thought I'd share.

Setup:

>3/4 inch wide tie down strap tied in a slip knot

>anchored to a cup board foot and run over the back of a sofa chair

After almost an hour of trying with the knot in front I thought fuck it, I'll just go full Robin Williams

I padded my trachea with a folded tablecloth with a thickness equivalent of a "fluffy" bath towel folded in half 3 times,

width was perhaps just short of 4 inches, so quite wide and thick.

Final resting height of head was 1½ - 1¾ ft of the floor at full strain.

Knot placed to the right of the neck prior to leaning in(forward), orientated so that it would shift towards the back of the neck when tightened.

The effect was immediate no more than 2-3 seconds before my vision started to fade then I was gone.

I had some crazy "dreams" or flashing images happen then I "woke up" in full panic mode completely

disoriented thinking "I'm dying, I'm dying" clawing at the ligature. I didn't have it in me to go again.

Scary as fuck, and sweaty.

>>9814

cool story m8

that is what people do for fun while jerking off right?

I tried this method quite a few times with bedsheets in hospital but I never lost consciousness. Also my face went red and it hurt quite a bit. I think it wasn't high enough on the neck. If only I knew that before. I'm in the airport waiting for boarding to start; I might do this when I come back. I'm visiting my family in this former Soviet country so I can't do it there, I don't want them to see.

Is a shoelace enough for this???

>>9945

I used a shoelace to do this and I never blacked out but my face felt hot, I waited to black out during 5 mins and it never happened, so from my experience the answer is no, but I'm pretty retarded with knots so it was probably my fault and not the shoelace. Could work, but did not worked for me.

seriously why is everybody here so determined to use the wrong stuff?

are you in prison or in some way restricted from going outside, online shopping?

"i don't have rope, will shoelace work?"

"i don't have a shotgun, can i use a water pistol instead?"

"i don't have the right drugs, will skittles finish me off?"

fucking hell, this is the last thing you ever do, put some effort into it

>>9957

Now that you mention it, yes, I'm restricted from going shopping and online shopping too, it does not feel too different from being in prison.

I did a trial of this with a piece of clothing. After just a few second palpitations began. Then I felt a pressure in my face which grew to be somewhat uncomfortable and I ended the trial. It was mainly around my eyes. Any idea how to avoid this pressure?

>>10127

Don't trust me 100% with my following statement but I think that the answer is no because that's one of the effects of stopping the blood flow in your head. If you want to go through with this you will have to bear it because as far as I know there is no way to avoid that sensation.

>>10129

I tried it again several times to get used to the feeling. Isn't so bad now. However, I didn't lose consciousness. How hard does it have to squeeze?

>>10135

I also noticed the thinner the rope-like object is, the better it works.

>>10135

really fucking hard, as strong as the gravity pull of a black hole. this method has better chances if you use a ratchet strap or partially hang yourself on somewhere.

I seriously hope you manage to do it because its exactly in this part that i failed, i could not make it squeeze hard enough, if you cant get past this part just give up and try something else but i understand if you cant give up so easily because this may be the only method you are able to use at the moment.

Has anyone here considered using a cable tie/ zip tie?

http://alt.suicide.methods.narkive.com/DMe1TjDV/hanging-carotid-compression-test-results

>>8288

Full brain death occurs in about 15-30 minutes. So It's not surefire

Bump

Surprised no one has mentioned it, but the lack of this knowledge may be the reason some people keep failing here.

This is going to be a long post, but IT WILL help most people who are unclear.

The carotid artery, the one you are trying to cut off, is the artery that runs the blood from your heart up into your brain. This artery therefore is responsible for supplying your brain with oxygen, which is why, when done properly, you pass out real quick.

-This artery is on the right hand side of your neck. To repeat, this artery is on the RIGHT.

The JUGULAR veins, are responsible for taking the blood from your brain back to your heart. You DO NOT want to cut circulation to your jugular veins. What happens when you cut off these veins, is the blood gets trapped in your head, but your heart keeps pumping, resulting in a really high pressure feeling in and around your face, especially behind eyes and ears and so forth.

The jugular veins are on the LEFT side of your neck, directly across from the carotid artery.

I've been seeing people saying that they had the knot at either the back of their neck, or the front of their neck, but in an ideal situation, you want the knot to be on the left side where the jugular veins are.

this is because there is usually about a cm gap between the knot and your skin, meaning that the jugular veins will not be compressed, and the carotid artery on the right side will be directly across from the knot, meaning the most pressure from the knot is on the carotid. For example, if the knot is at the back of your head, your windpipe is directly across from the knot, and the strongest pressure is on your windpipe.

what you want to do is put the knot on the left hand side of your neck, but slightly towards the direction you are facing if that makes sense?

Imagine a birds eye view of your head and neck, with your face pointing forwards. now imagine a compass directly on top of your head, where your nose is pointing north, and the back of your head is facing south, the knot should be in the north west position.

This will alleviate the pressure on both the jugular, and the windpipe, whilst maximum pressure is placed on the carotid, effectively cutting oxygen and blood supply to the brain, causing unconsciousness and minutes later, death. (note: after you are passed out, you won't even notice the few minutes it takes for your brain to die, you will already be pretty much dead assuming nothing breaks or goes wrong.)

So to recap, the knot should be on the front/left hand sides of our neck for this to work best. (Side note: if the jugular is cut off as well as the carotid, you may still die, but it will hurt more and your face will be purple and bloated when you are found)

This information should make this method a lot more effective for anyone having problems, knowledge of exactly how the method works makes it easier to do.

Also, use the information in other posts for ideas on materials and knot methods, for example, avoid using electrical cords. Shoelaces can work depending on the type. don't use shoelaces that are found on joggers, they are stretchy and not as sturdy as, say, converse shoelaces for example.

I was going to use this a couple of years back but life improved and i never ended up doing it, but at the time, i did a load of research, and then went ahead and looked at medical diagrams of the neck, along with advice in a thread of some online message board which is probably long gone by now. However, this is what i will probably turn to in the event that my life goes to shit again.

Good luck future readers of this thread, I hope this was clear enough.

>>10990

Thanks, you're being really generous here.

Today I tried ligature strangulation by using a belt and a soft tshirt.

I first wrapped the tshirt around my neck for padding, and then tied the belt as tight as I could around my neck as well(Wasn't that tight, perhaps the tshirt's at fault for this as it was thick on my neck).

I waited for a minute to pass out but couldn't, and didn't feel anything coming so I gave up.

Should I try again? Only less tshirt padding?

>>11215

the pressure is spread over too much surface area for that to work

either change the ligature to a really thin cord and get rid of the padding or attatch the belt to your door or something and do a partial suspension hanging with padding

>>11220

How do I tie the cord?

>>11223

Bump, don't let this thread be slid

>>11004

All he said was accurate though…

You're trying to cut off the carotid artery on the right of your neck.

There are four arteries that supply blood to the brain. Blocking the carotid arteries is not guaranteed to work as the brain is capable of re routing blood through different means.

>>11349

It'll work, it'll just be very unpleasant.

>>7144

I tried doing this with a laptop charger pulled around my neck, and all I got after 5 minutes was a sore face.

what am i doing wrong

>>11392

Cord of choice was too weak. You didn't exert enough force where you needed to. You suck dicks.

It could be any number of things, anon!

Ligatures should be an effective method. They employ the same mechanism as strangleholds (those that block blood to the brain), which work within seconds. and so should ligatures if done right.

>>7723

You were compressing the jugular veins, which are more susceptible to compression than the carotid arteries. This led to an accumulation of blood in your head and caused the ringing and the pressure in your eyes.

>>11547

>and so should ligatures if done right.

That's the problem—nobody's been clear enough on how to properly compress the carotid, whether or not you need padding, etc. That artery is deep as fuck in your neck.

>>11548

The problem is that the jugular is almost on top of the carotid, so it's easy to do it wrong.

I tried partial suspension hanging years ago and nearly fainted. I chickened out.

Used a slipknot and 2 cm diameter cotton rope tied to a fence, sitting position. Knot behind on left hand side of neck. Sat just barely off the ground (i.e. rope was pulling part of my weight).

Felt ringing and eyes bulging out at first, then I readjusted the knot and it mostly went away. You start feeling tingly all over and your body going numb (think when you fall asleep with your body resting on your arm), and as if you had low blood pressure.

Just tried this last night.

Put it high up on my neck, did a loose knot and tied one end to my foot and the other I held tightly in my other side's hand. I then pushed outwards with my foot to make it very tight. It was high up on my neck like I stated above, so I could breathe just fine (It was above the adam's apple)

I then waited for like 4 seconds and my entire body was tingling. I stopped then. I tried it 3 more times, and each time it worked just as well. I know if I do it this way then while I die my foot is going to let go and it's going to allow me to breathe. I want to know if there's a way to make it so it's tied tightly without having to use one of my own body parts to hold it tight. Any advice?

>>11620

Tie it too a door knob and kick it closed?

I'm also going to try this tonight with the stick twist method.

>>11621

Interesting… Thank you.

>>11349

I should probably mention those other methods are developed over time in response to lessened blood flow. The other guy is right, place the knot such that the full tension of the rope is on the right side under your chin. Check for the pulse in your neck, that's where you want the rope exactly.

Also this is a good read on strangulation and asphyxiation techniques: http://alt.suicide.methods.narkive.com/AskHwaVM/hanging-strangulation-pretty-much-clears-it-all-up-thanks-to-totmacher-long

I've tried this with rope using a slip knot, but I can never get it to stay tight when I try to tie it tightly in place. Is there a specific way to tie a ligature to keep it tight?

I'm not reading this entire thread, because it's long as fuck, but I tried this method and it is painless and quick. The only problem is, especially if you've experienced a blood choke before (martial arts, military), it's easy to know when you're going to lose conciousness. That was the case for me, and it made me panic and stop. I tried several times, but it was the same each time. I wasn't drunk, so that might help. My method was to create a tourniquet using a belt and a rod (I used a curtain rod). Twist the belt one time and loop the end through the buckle, insert the rod, and twist the rod to tighten the belt. It should leave your airway clear (if not, try to move the rod to a different place, I had it behind my right shoulder and it worked fine). You can keep the rod tight by resting it against the floor or some other object.

Someone asked if this method can cause brain damage - absolutely. Depending on the strength of the seal on your artery, you should lose conciousness after about 4-5 seconds, then after 8 seconds, you'll likely have brain damage. If you can keep it up for much more than that (12-20 seconds) you have a pretty good chance of dying - that's what I've been told anyway. Once you've lost conciousness and the rod is secure, nothing is going to break the seal though, other than someone coming and trying to save you.

Bump

I want to do this method so badly but I'm scared I'll fuck up and become half retarded which would only make my situation even more unbearable. God I wish I wasn't a fucking pussy and could just do it. But it seems like a lot of people ITT have fucked up while trying this method. Though I guess the ones that didn't fuck up can't really report back…

This thread deserves a bump, I always come back here when I'm feelin blue.

This post is in response to John Doe's post from 09/02/15 at 6:58:02.

John Doe, for those of us (like me) who are going to be using a ratchet strap to attempt to succeed in strangulation, I am not clear on how to achieve the same goal with the strap, as you would if you used a knotted rope as you were mentioning.

Once I tighten the strap around my neck, should I, (like you suggested for knot users), (but instead of a knot), tighten the strap with the lever pressing against the right side of my neck, therefore putting the most pressure on my carotid artery.

Or in other words, could you please translate your original post into the same instructions, but instead for those using a ratchet strap tie-down instead of a knot.

Thank you very much in advance. Any additional information you might have would also be so appreciated.

Also, I just received my ratchet strap in the mail 2 nights ago, and the strap is 2" thick, does anybody think it is going to be too thick to work effectively?

or, anyone with any further information pertaining to my question or what else I and other ratchet-strap users should keep in mind before attempting this method.. please share. thanks in advance

>>10990

This post is in response to John Doe's post from 09/02/15 at 6:58:02.

for those of us who are going to be using a ratchet strap to attempt to succeed in their strangulation, I am not clear on how to achieve the same goal with the strap, as you would if you used a knotted rope as you were explaining.

Once I tighten the strap around my neck, should I, (like you suggested for knot users), (but instead of a knot), tighten the strap with the lever pressing against the right side of my neck, therefore putting the most pressure on my carotid artery.

Or in other words, could you please translate your original post into similar instructions, but instead, for those who are going to be using a ratchet strap tie-down instead of a knot.

Thank you very much in advance. Any additional information you have would also be so appreciated.

Also, I just received my ratchet strap in the mail 2 nights ago, and the strap is 2" thick, does anyone think it is going to be too thick to work effectively?

or, if anyone has any further information pertaining to my question or what else I and other ratchet-strap users should keep in mind before attempting this method.. please share.

>>13675

Left, right and back have the same rate of success because the pressure distributes evenly.

The only thing to keep in mind is not getting interrupted for 20 min. If you don't get interrupted this method is the most effective.

25mm is best, 2" is difficult.

>>13684

But you were saying that the jugular vein is not where you want to put the pressure, you said the carotid is. and if i do it on the right side i won't be putting as much pressure on my windpipe so there's two reasons right there why i should use it on my right side, so how do you figure it doesn't matter what side you choose?

Thanks in advance.

>>7111

Holy fuck fucking ye fag fucking kill yourself and die

Has anyone else attempted the Gacy/tourniquet-style method that could offer some advice about it? I'm thinking of trying it, but not sure if it is feasible.

Hello. I got this ratchet strap http://www.amazon.com/Keeper-85544-Measure-Ratchet-Tie-Down/dp/B00B0ZMBNI and tested it out. I held the ratchet behind my neck and upward with the strap directly under my chin, but the strap would always slide over my adam's apple when I tried tightening it. Am I doing something wrong? The strap is 1.25" wide.

Hey there. I've been lurking this thread for a while, still having real difficulty grasping the method. I really need to be shown what to do, but this isn't the sort of subject people make video tutorials for.

Has anyone been researching this further? Any clearer understandings? Or are you all dead?

>>13973

I've been giving it a go these past few months. The key seems to be to not hang from the rope but to pull against it. Ideally the rope should be cutting right into your neck just above your Adam's Apple (top of the neck) as this seems to press the carotid arteries shut with minimal disturbance of the jugular veins which make you feel like your head is about to explode.

Of course, I have not gone all the way through with it but if you start seeing spots after a few seconds which quickly build and obscure your entire vision with minimal pain involved you are doing it the right way and if you keep going from this state you should lose consciousness and die in a short time. There might be issues with thrashing about however if one is unconscious and dying so you should be aware of the space around you and make sure your rope is secured tight just in case.

If you pull out of the rope once the spots cloud your vision you feel a weird sensation and a hot flush as your eyesight returns which kind of feels like a strange orgasm which explains why some people use this method for kinks and die by accident so you've got that as a bonus if you're not ready to go all the way. After the 'orgasm' finishes you tend to feel hyped up as being close to death gives your body a rush but other than that no permanent damage seems to occur from mere trials with no unconsciousness involved.

Thank you so much for all your responses. I really appreciate you taking the time

So I tried ligature strangulation last night, had my suicide note all laid out, good luck charms in hand and everything, and let's just say things didn't work nearly as I had planned.

I didn't realize you can't loosen ratchet straps, but how was i supposed to know right. So just a word of warning to y'all that to not tighten the strap too much at the beginning or else you could end up doing what I did and you could have it stuck in the wrong place on your throat and then be frantically trying to move it to the right place but really i didn't know where the right place was in the first place because i should've asked before i even attempted this.. i don't know what i was thinking… but i looked it up many times prior and still i couldn't find my answer so i need to know once and for all before i attempt again…

Where exactly is the carotid artery.. i can't find mine. because there's a pulse in two areas right below my chin strap and i can't figure out which of them is the right one, help!!! is it the one that feels kind of pointy, or the one that feels like there's a space in between two points…YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN???? HELP ME SOLVE THIS PLS!! Thank you so much!! And I'm a Woman if that helps to better answer my question.

I've only been able to find the carotid artery once, every other time I've compressed the jugular. If I lie down face-up and raise my head, There's a muscle that flexes on either side of the windpipe, with a gap in-between. Is the carotid artery somewhere in this gap? Pressing in their I either compress the windpipe or the jugular, haven't been able to compress the carotid again. I'm assuming this red artery https://media.8ch.net/suicide/src/1432526234066.jpg on the side of the neck is the carotid.

Also, using a ratchet strap is a normal facecloth folded twice in both directions good? I haven't tried it yet because I haven't gotten a clear idea of the carotid artery's location.

>>13985

I tried again, using a ratchet strap at the back of my neck, and two facecloths rolled into cylinders, placed on both sides of my windpipe. I was only able to compress the jugular, and the carotid didn't compress at all.

Rereading that I realize that I was supposed to compress the carotid at a point instead of along the artery, but how do I do that? Can I do it with a ratchet strap and some other material? From what I've read, you shouldn't do the compression on the upper part of the neck because it can make your heart stop somehow which is obviously a slower and more painful way to die.

>>13916

The ratchet tie-down must be without hooks.

>>13983

With the ratchet tie-down, padding is not necessary. It's complicated to release, I practiced around my thigh until I got it right. I found that if you tie the strap incorrectly, it's almost impossible to release, but when I followed the diagram in the box, it was easy.

>>13991

Compressing the jugular results in death too. But the carotid is better to not cause discomfort and leave a good-looking corpse. To compress the carotid, you only need to apply more pressure.

The position must be above Adam's apple to not compress the windpipe. If heart stops you die instantly, but if there is no history of cardiac problems it seems very unlikely.

I have a strip of elastic exercise band material that's about 5' wide and 4-5" thick. Is that strong enough to perform ligature with?

Also, similar to other recent replies, I'm having trouble finding my carotid artery. Tips appreciated.

>>13916

>>13985

I'm this guy.

My mistake, I linked the wrong product page. I have a ratchet strap without straps.

I'm now able to find and compress the carotid artery easily. There's one carotid artery on each side of the adam's apple, maybe an inch away from the bulge. You should be able to feel a pulse on both sides, my right side was more pronounced. You can compress it by pressing your thumbs into both spots. If you feel pain in your windpipe then re-position and try again. Depending on how much pressure you use you'll feel it in around 5-10 seconds. Your balance goes first and your vision will get fuzzy, the symptoms are obvious.

Can I compress the carotid without compressing the jugular? Compressing the jugular is really unpleasant and I feel it faster than the carotid. When I used the ratchet strap above the adam's apple, the strap kept slipping down onto it. Maybe I'm positioning it wrong, my neck isn't very long.

>>14092

Where did you attach the rope?

Would it be a good idea to take muscle relaxants and sleeping pills beforehand, to lessen the thrashing around? Is it over so quick that it wouldn't even matter?

>>14095

Dont people just tie it to a doorknob and try to sit down?

Just tried it. Got a massive stomach pain just as I was about to pass out which caused my body to panic and bail.

>>14092

Just tried pic related, failed sadly.

I remember kneeling thinking this shit wasn't working. Next thing I remember is laying on the floor after the noose giving away.

It's completely painless, just position your neck about 20 times till you hit the sweet spot and you won't even feel that you're passing out.

>>14134

Damn, I was trying that for like 30 mins today and could never get it to work. I'm jealous.

What does "passing out" feel like for everyone? I'm pretty sure I'm constricting my jugular or something, because I feel a TON of pressure in my head, and I guess that's not the right way.

>>14192

You're not supposed to feel anything at all. If you're feeling pressure in your head that means you're putting too much pressure. You shouldn't even feel like you're passing out, it just happens almost instantly. Just put slightly more pressure on the left side of your neck.

>>14197

Alright. But what if I reduce the amount of pressure, and just have it not be enough to pass out? Also, why the left side? Isn't the carotid on the right side?

>>14198

I'm sorry I can't explain the scientific aspects of it, I'm just speaking from experience.

The pressure thing is really weird, I barely needed any to pass out, I was just kneeling and constantly readjusting the noose for five or ten minutes, didn't even realize what happened after I woke up on the ground. Literally one second I'm adjusting the noose and the next one I'm on the ground continuing the same thought. Did it the next night same result, except a lot faster because I focused on the left side of the neck, because it didn't cause me any discomfort that way.

>>14200

Thanks for the input, I'll try less pressure and see what happens

thanks so much for all this info. Tried yesterday to just do a suspension with a rope on my doorhandle but couldn't get the fucking pressure right on the artery and began to just choke instead. Sucked.

Just found this thread, went out and bought a ratchet, and will try that tonight. Wish me luck. If it doesn't work I'll provide feedback.

>>14243

*Thugs

Has anyone tried to first hyperventilate before letting all of your body weight onto the rope? I end up freaking out when I'm still mostly conscious and feel myself falling forward.

I wish that I could use the tourniquet method, but I've only ever had any luck cutting off the carotid by standing on my toes and then quickly going down.

>>14191

i think he's dead… are you still with us joe

>>14376

So, I've been doing practice runs recently to try to be able to pass out as quickly as possible once my neck hits the rope since I seem to pass out slower than other people on this thread.

I can't make myself pass out simply from hyperventilating and holding my breath like I see people do on youtube for some reason.

However, after hyperventilating, I seemed to pass out way quicker once I put my neck in the noose. I just tried hyperventilating for about a minute while kneeling down and then tightened the rope around my neck. I'm not sure that I even got to ten seconds before I woke up convulsing uncontrollably on the floor.

>>7688

oh my god, thank you so much