No.18831
Welcome to /svidya/, the board for video game and only video game discussion.
Please check the board rules before you post:
https://8ch.net/svidya/rules.html
This thread is for general meta discussion and telling us what a bad job we're doing or presenting ideas or advice for improving the board. Please try to keep board/site meta discussion in here.
We also have an IRC channel if you really want to make things personal.
It's #svidya on IRCHighWay or
irc.irchighway.net/svidya
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No.18833
Your current /svidya/ board owner took over back in August and advocates for a decidedly less intimidating approach towards moderating video game discussion than previous owners.
I do not believe in "quality control" ideals or rules against "shitposting" because these are just too subjective to enforce in any consistent fashion, and thus are very susceptible to abuse. I believe that some of these practices implemented by the original board owner and volunteers were a factor in driving people away from the board. I have seen the same thing happen on many other image boards before as well, 7chan's /vg/ being a prime example.
However, I am in a bit of a quandary because I do still have a desire to respect the reasons that our remaining anons who have been here since the beginning came to /svidya/ in the first place. Now is the time for them to speak up.
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No.18836
I really need to figure out how some of these other boards are linking dedicated pages for presenting the rules already. Does anyone happen to know?
No.18844
Good lord, if I had realized it would turn into a mess like I'd applied for board owner back in June.
Also, don't forget to enable cyclical thread on here.
>>18836
Board repository. Should be in the control panel.
No.18846
>>18844
>don't forget to enable cyclical thread on here.
I'm not sure I actually want to this time. The problem with the other thread being cyclical is that 8archive stopped archiving once it reached the post cycling number, and I lost track of some good discussion I wanted to preserve because of that.
No.18848
>>18846
Still have it open, can screencap it for you. gimme the post number.
No.18850
>>18848
You're not understanding, when the thread cycles it deletes posts starting with the oldest ones. What's left in the old sticky is far from all the posts that were made in it.
No.18851
No.18853
>>18851
So your computer and browser has had 7 months of uptime during which you never refreshed the thread?
No.18854
Should we post flag/banner suggestions here? (not that I have any)
No.18855
>>18854
Yes, here is the place to do that.
No.18856
Are there any plans to make any social groups ala mumble or steam?
No.18857
>>18856
If you want to do that on your own be my guest, but I would like to maintain some professional distance between board owner/volunteers and users in order to mitigate drama. If you should happen to find me in some group like that you won't know it's me.
No.18858
>>18856
we have an IRC, I think.
No.18859
>>18858
I knew I forgot something.
No.18860
>>18857
Kewl, I don't use steam and know next to nothing about setting up a mumble server anyway.
No.18861
>>18856
I've got a 20slot TS that doesn't get used much, would anons be interested?
No.18862
No.18865
No.18874
>>18831
I got somethings I'm wondering about.
>4. No advertising!
>If you suspect someone is attempting to advertise please do report it. We will try our best to remove advertising in only the most clear-cut instances.
Occasionally on /v/ there are some game developers, not the big names, like amateur hobbyists on from /agdg/ showing off their work. Potentially, they could move up from being amateur, but if they make threads of their own games it could be advertising as they've moved up to making cash from their games.
So is the advertising strictly, a thread of "yo, buy this game <price here>", or does it extend to an anon game dev making a thread of his own game releasing, and discussing things other than of anon's buying it. I got no problem with the latter if there is a disclosure that the dev is making the thread.
>“What do you think of this e-celeb’s shitty opinion on this Vidya series?”
as a primary because it can or will devolve in to talking about the e-celeb, which I don't consider primary, more so than the vidya series, which would still be primary.
No.18880
>>18874
The problem with advertising is when it contributes nothing to the board while bumping off other vidya discussion. A game dev being upfront and open about their own game and discussing it is fine I think.
No.18883
>>18880
So maybe the rule should be tweaked to "No undercover marketing!" instead.
No.18902
>>18833
>advocates for a decidedly less intimidating approach towards moderating video game discussion than previous owners
That banhammer was an attractive thing
So strictly speaking, the difference between v and sv is that senseless terciary threads will get eliminated and that spamming dubs will get hidden?
No.18937
Are generals staying? Please say no.
What's your opinion of threads on SJWs in gaming, is it possible to talk about the intersection of gaming or gamer culture and politics? Threads about GG, for example?
/gs/ is one of the boards on top and hasn't been active in months. It was one of the first boards to pop up post-exodus, will it stay up there, or will you let it go?
What's your opinion on game server or faction advertisements, such as, say, CivCraft factions or a Minecraft server?
Will you be starting any game nights to draw people in or keep what we have going? How will you keep this from fizzling out like it did last time?
No.18946
>>18902
>the difference between v and sv is that senseless tertiary threads will get eliminated and that spamming dubs will get hidden?
That's the most immediate difference, yes. /v/ also has some ambiguous measures of "quality control" that I'm also not a fan of.
>>18937
>Are generals staying? Please say no.
Precisely define what a "general" thread is first. What makes an "arcade general thread" different from a regular old arcade thread for instance? The problem with general threads (besides their idiotic naming conventions) is when they get remade as a matter of course the moment the old thread dies but result in no new discussion happening. Then they just clutter up the board with no real benefit to the users.
>What's your opinion of threads on SJWs in gaming, is it possible to talk about the intersection of gaming or gamer culture and politics? Threads about GG, for example?
If it's related to video games it's fine. As in bad video game journalism, lawmakers trying to censor video games, some shithead trying to saying all game enthusiasts as evil, etc. Feigning interest in video games to segue into completely tangential /pol/ discussions are not however.
>/gs/ is one of the boards on top and hasn't been active in months. It was one of the first boards to pop up post-exodus, will it stay up there, or will you let it go?
I'm not sure, I guess I haven't reviewed some of the recommended boards in a while.
>What's your opinion on game server or faction advertisements, such as, say, CivCraft factions or a Minecraft server?
You mean making a thread to get anons to play together in a server? Sounds fine at face value.
>Will you be starting any game nights to draw people in or keep what we have going?
What do you mean by game night exactly? I'm apprehensive about relating these sorts of projects directly to the /svidya/ administration because as I've said I would like to maintain professional distance between board owner/volunteers and users in order to mitigate drama. If you see me involved in some game project or another you won't know it's me.
>How will you keep this from fizzling out like it did last time?
There's a number of ways a board can die but I think the main reason it died last time was because of draconian rules intimidating people from posting without it being "high quality". I hope the refined rules and my own views on moderation can inspire more faith in posters this time around.
No.18948
>The problem with general threads (besides their idiotic naming conventions) is when they get remade as a matter of course the moment the old thread dies but result in no new discussion happening. Then they just clutter up the board with no real benefit to the users.
That's what a general is, a thread designed around a specific subcommunity that acts more as a place for them to shitpost and circlejerk amongst one another rather than actually discuss a topic. A thread that calls itself a general and stays on topic isn't the type of thread I'm talking about.
If the "arcade general" is actually about arcade games and then left to die when people are done discussing it, then it's not really the kind of general I'm talking about. The kind I'm talking about are more like Brit/pol/ on /pol/ where it's just a NEET circlejerk and tangentially about politics because they post Nigel Farage reaction images sometimes. Undertale and SS13 are like this, too, and Splatoon threads were bad as well.
No.18949
No.18962
So, BO, about IDs?
Are you going to turn them on, or are they going to be at the bottom of each thread? We're going to need them at some point aka when Marks drones start spamming us because they think we're behind everything
No.18965
>>18937
>Are generals staying? Please say no.
Generals are good.
No.19012
No.19016
No.19023
>no name and subject field
>clunky dropdown instead of email
>no IDs
Don't like it. Call me when you make a proper board.
No.19025
>>18937
>Are generals staying? Please say no.
There's always /vg/ and it's not completely dead/could be brought back. Plus, of course, people can make their own boards.
No.19028
>>18965
Generals are cancer
No.19052
>>18946
Let a user handle the game night stuff then.
No.19060
>>18962
Here is my argument against board IDs in copypaste form:
Coming from other places like 7chan and 99chan I used to think thread IDs would be a pretty good compromise between their no-privacy-at-all style of board IDs and full anonymity. The idea is that you would get the benefits of keeping track of discussion without compromising the benefits of anonymous discussion.
My experience on 8ch has really changed my mind now. I have found thread IDs to be detrimental to both the spirit and advantages of true anonymous discussion.
Take a long thread with a long-lived discussion for instance. With thread IDs, posters are less inclined to casually speak their mind early in the discussion, because what ends up happening is other posters will judge their later arguments based on something said previously, instead of evaluating those argument solely on their own merits. Wasn't that the focus of anonymity? To allow arguments to be judged alone, without the character of the person making them providing a distraction? However minor a character that thread IDs end up developing for a poster, it is still enough in those threads to deter people from speaking their minds as freely as they would otherwise.
I believe that Thread IDs are an obstacle to truly free discussion and expression. What little gains they do provide (detecting samefags, astroturfing, undercover marketing), are both easily circumvented if you know what you're doing, and are not worth the toll to discussion they ultimately end up taking. I have seen at least a few instances over the months now of undercover marketing and astroturfing that were not prevented by thread IDs. It’s also important to note that board volunteers can see both thread-specific IDs of posts and a unique hash representing a poster’s IP across threads. As long as your volunteers are diligent at keeping an eye out for marketers, there's really no need for anonymous to have that information.
Meanwhile, thread IDs just give people an excuse to dismiss you entirely when you say something they don't like by connecting everything you've said to your weakest post.
The absolute most frustrating form of trolling I have come across in years has happens right here on 8ch, where one poster will connect a thread ID and accuse another of being a samefag and an undercover marketer for merely expressing two separate thoughts in two separate posts.
>or are they going to be at the bottom of each thread
I saw someone else referring to this in another thread and still don't see the setting anywhere.
>We're going to need them at some point
Board owners and volunteers can see unique posters so we can handle it if there's a problem.
No.19061
>>19012
Nope, it's indexed.
>>19023
Forced anonymous has been turned back off. I'm not so sure about thread IDs returning though.
No.19094
>>18946
I've posted in a few general threads, and typically general threads have a community. If it's a multiplayer game, a few anons form a guild/clan/syndicate and in a sense, the thread becomes the hub of communication or a kind of bulletin for the group.
However, the game can also be single player and have the same kind of community e.g DMC Generals on 4/v/ before it renamed to CUHRAYZEE at the creation of 4/vg/.
Sometimes it can devolve from discussion of the game, toward discussion of the community, especially if the concept of anonymity is loosely held e.g tripcodes, name/avatarfags.
It's a convention from 4chan where users can't create their own board. It's also a middleground between a spontaneous thread and a whole board. The amount of posts going doesn't warrant it's own board and team of moderators, but the amount of posts going could cause multiple threads which for the sake of the (assumed high traffic) board, is best concentrated to a single large thread.
>The problem with general threads (besides their idiotic naming conventions) is when they get remade as a matter of course the moment the old thread dies but result in no new discussion happening.
I'm familiar with this happening, but it's not the case for every general. e.g Warframe Generals (associated with Infinity Grind) on 8/v/ are remade sparringly.
The way I think of it now though, /svidya/ is a lower traffic board without many threads per day, which doesn't have the same issue of having many threads being pushed off.
No.19168
I'm an occasional poster here on /svidya/. I really liked the idea of the board, as a true video games board. I haven't been terribly active (this board is quite slow) but I've been chipping in, replying here and there, I even added to the recommended games wikia.
I'm asking about this ad pictured.
My question is - is this how administration is presenting this board? I saw this ad on /v/ so I assume /v/ was targeted.
I always saw this board as an alternative to /v/ for more grounded discussion of video games, but the shitslinging politics portrayed in this ad - from "fuck mark he banned us!" to actually supporting the fucking SJW strawman that is ggrevolt - is just… /v/ tier. I don't even like mark or acid man.
So, I gotta ask - is this actually what this board is about? Petty inter-board drama? Or are we actually talking about video games? Because if so, that's a really shitty ad.
No.19170
>>19168
Whoever has been putting up these ads, it isn't me or this board's administration. And if I were to put up an ad, it certainly wouldn't try to associate with board drama because that's just going to make enemies out of potential allies. I would advertise /svidya/ on its merits, something more along the lines of "Tired of sifting through /b/ shit when looking for vidya discussion? Join /svidya/ today!" Something like that, anyway.
No.19171
>>19168
In fact I would consider the possibility that that ad is in fact purposely trying to make us look bad.
No.19172
>>19168
It's pretty obvious that people are doing it to troll Mark, since hes such a gigantic faggot and will sperg out and make /svidya/ a boogeyman like /intl/
No.19175
>>19170
>>19171
Cool. I would agree with you. Good to hear that's not representing this board. Though I wonder if HW would be willing to take down errant ads
No.19177
>>19175
Nah it makes him money, plus there's really nothing wrong with buying ads to piss off a retard like Mark
No.19182
>>19168
It's someone on /ggrevolt/ trying to shit on Mark.
No.19183
>>19182
Revolt here, it's definitely not us.
No.19184
>>19183
>implying
>>>/ggrevolt/
>>>/eatshit/
No.19185
>>19183
I thought I remembered seeing a post about it there. Weird.
>>19184
>>>/ggrevolt/58770
No.19186
>>19184
>>19185
>not realizing that was smug Ian
i didn't buy the ad. i posted that because i thought it was funny someone would actually waste money to falseflag revolt. again.
No.19188
>>19186
>I
>I posted this
>I posted everything
>I wasn't laughing, honestly
>I also responded to myself and posted Nice!
>>>/eatshit/
No.19190
>>19188
>I wasn't laughing, honestly
>i thought it was funny
i never said i made the "nice!" comment either.
No.19191
>>19190
You don't get it do you. /ggrevolt/ isn't all you. Go defend your board all you want, some idiot on your board bought it.
No.19192
>>19191
pretty sure its just a troll ad.
its obviously just someone trying to make both boards look bad through association. ggrevolt has a bad rep and this place gets a lot of shit when people know it exists
No.19193
>>19191
>one guy bought it so your whole board is bad
if you wanna go that route, how do i know it wasn't someone on your board that bought it, faggot?
No.19194
>>19193
why make a witchunt out of nothing?
who the fuck cares, its gonna be gone by tomorrow anyways.
No.19195
>>19193
>>19192
Guys, it was Mark.
No.19198
>>19194
Well obviously because he bought it and is pretending and using it to draw attention
No.19258
So, saw the ad.
I don't know why /ggrevolt/ would be advertised along side this board.
/ggrevolt/ - everything is allowed, nothing is off-topic
/svidya/ - video game discussion primarily, keep it on the topic of video games
I like the idea of this board, seems pretty straight forward, as long as you don't start moderating based off of feels or opinions like we've seen so many other hotpockets do before.
I'm not a /v/ regular, used to be a /pol/ regular, and still frequent /b/, and at least drop by /ggrevolt/ for the latest news/drama.
Can someone give me a breakdown of the pros/cons of this board vs /v/?
The only game I'm currently playing is SS13, and I've found the thread on here and posted in it already.
No.19264
>>19258
>Can someone give me a breakdown of the pros/cons of this board vs /v/?
It's not /v/.
Also, lurk moar
No.19269
>>19264
Is it a competitor for /v/? I know the ad didn't come up from this board, but that's what it was implying and trying to ridicule.
No.19272
>>19258
Pro: control for the topicality of video game discussion
Con: no "quality" control
No.19284
>>19258
>ss13
That hasn't been good since 2012. The community is so fucking shit and autistic now. Especially the /v/ one.
No.19287
>>19284
The /v/ one is much better now.
No.19288
>>19168
>>19172
>>19182
>>19183
>>19184
>>19185
>>19186
>>19192
>>19193
I can imagine it's just an individual that bought it since advertising is cheap. It might be worth it for some troll to spend $5 on inciting interboard drama.
Even if someone from a board bought it, we shouldn't evaluate the entire board based on that individual action anyways unless it was organized by a significant portion of the community, permitted by board owners and the moderation team, etc.
No.19293
>>19287
Did they finally decide to start having fun playing the game instead of roleplaying paperwork for the entirety of their 2 hour long rounds? Because last time I played, the whole violent, paranoid "is this guy standing next to me because he's going to kill me? should i kill him first?" vibe that made the game fun was completely gone.
No.19304
hey what do you think about when you ban someone for being not videogames, you direct them to a board related to that topic? like goobergtrape threads would have >>>/ggrevolt/ and >>>/gghq/ listed in the ban text that everyone can see. alothough i can already see issues with that when applied to goobergrape. or /pol/ posting for that matter.
what are your thoughts on webm threads? as those degenerate into not videogames pretty quickly and could potentially be a slippery slope.
and what about "/v/ culture" threads such as LOL, rage, cringe, and 4am threads? i disagree with their existence myself, but if for whatever reason you had a large number of /v/ posters jump ship to come here, these kinds of threads will pop up, and you will be met with the same argument i just provided ("its /v/ culture you hotpocket fag!") and so it may be best to think about this ahead of time.
are you cool with threads slipping into not videogames territory as a normal part of discussion, or would this be grounds for a short ban? how would you differentiate normal off topic discussion from intentional thread derailing?
>>18883
im sure someone would make that argument that this would allow for toddposting threads, but given that the joke is that he is pretending to not be todd but doing it poorly, it would still be undercover marketing, aka shilling.
>>18962
>>19023
i disagee that we need IDs, as it is only curing the symptom and not the disease itself. the only real argument i can see for having them is so that anons can see samefagging and self moderate, and if self moderation is necessary then it is very clear that you have a moderation problem. it has the other problem of generating the ebin shitpost that is
> (1)
and
> (x number of posts)
as if this refutes whatever the poster is saying.
tl;dr it gives shitposters a weak argument to use against anyone in a long thread and is nothing more than a cure for the symptom and not the actual problem.
>>18946
i would say that you pretty much described what a a general is to me, be it a good general or a bad general, and i dont think they really have a place here, when they could either discuss their game on their own board or on /vg/
what this guy said
>>19094
is pretty on point as well, but i disagree that they should be allowed here.
>>19258
all i can really say is that if you post on /v/ on a day that mark forgets to properly microwave his hotpocket, be prepared for a ban without justification, be prepared to be refused an explanation on the reasoning behind said ban, and be prepared for mark to outright lie about what you did, all while his whiteknights endlessy shitpost the thread to death in an attempt to piss you off and justify mark not talking to you. read this thread and see for yourself https://archive.is/sVTnv
the shitposting part didnt happen this thread, outside of some shitstirring autists and mark himself though. i would ask that you not reply about this in this thread and instead take it to the spregout thread.
No.19306
>>19304
>generals
>on their own board
Making a new board for what only a few people would be posting in is pretty dumb. Unless it gets to the point where these generals reach their bump limit in the span of a few hours rather than several days, then there is literally no reason to make a board that would end up with zero traffic. There's nothing wrong with generals as long as they don't devolve into Undertale tier shit.
No.19307
>>19306
if you noticed i also pointed out that there was /vg/.
my contention though is that in the very convention of naming it a general, you are saying that the game itself lacks the merit of its own thread, and that it is here for the continuation of community small talk and/or co-ordination/collaboration of fellow posters. not that there is anything wrong with that, i just dont much see the point in having what amounts to a subforum when you could instead have your own board to discuss these things.
they dont trigger me, and they will most likely stay, i just wanted to put my two cents in.
No.19309
>>19307
No one goes to /vg/. Most of the threads there were posted in 2014.
>game itself
Generals are usually about entire series or a genre of game.
>racing general
>space general
>rts general
>grand strategy general
Instead of shitting up a board with countless threads asking/talking about extremely specific details in a game not many people play where it is very likely to die without ever getting any bumps because the people who do play it don't scan the catalog 24/7, it's a lot easier to just concentrate those likeminded people in one general.
>i just dont much see the point in having what amounts to a subforum when you could instead have your own board to discuss these things.
Because spreading what is probably a dozen or less people out across an entire board doesn't really work.
No.19385
>>19293
Admins don't tolerate murdering people for no reason as a non-antagonist. I speak from experience since i'm one of the admins.
No.19386
Sorry about the new-thread captcha anons. I'd prefer if we didn't have that but someone was attempting to kill all the threads on the board with spam earlier.
No.19394
I just noticed someone got caught in the range ban on that spammer from earlier. Sorry anon, I'm new at this.
No.19453
>>19385
What is considered a reason? I should be able to put someone on the ground for punching me. **And space him if he was an annoying asshole.*
No.19471
>>19453
If anyone hits you first, you can do whatever you want unless sec says otherwise.
No.19610
do you have threads set to require moderator permission or something? i just made a thread and it isnt showing up.
No.19611
>>19610
well its on the front page but its not in the catalog now.
No.19612
>>19611
Works fine for me, so it's probably just 8ch being 8ch.
No.19614
>>19612
yeah nevermind, it showed up, but it took well over 5 minutes for it to add the page number in the lower right hand corner along with showing up in the catalog.
No.19625
did you know that the board " motto" and the redtext stuff is saved per thread? how strange!
also did you recently changed the number of pages or something? if i go to page 11 i get a 404
No.19631
>>19625
I had been slowly reducing the page count the last month or so to try and encourage people to make new threads more often instead of bumping up 6-month-old discussions.
Unfortunately we got hit by a thread spammer last week and I had to increase the page count back to maximum. In the process though they were able to knock off a few pages worth of old threads while the old page limit was in place.
No.19632
>>19630
>>19631
at least theres a bright side i suppose.
No.19650
>>19632
Every time I click on any post to go to the 1cc thread, nothing loads.
Anyone else having the same problem? Or know what might be causing it?
No.19656
>>19650
Yes I'm having the same problem, exclusive to that thread. Very strange, I wonder if it has to do with the last post made.
No.19658
>>19650
>>19656
Was able to view it fine with mod tools. Made a new post and it seems to have fixed it. Bizarre.
No.19719
So it seems that /v/ meta thread is going to somewhat amazingly reach the 750 post limit before long here. My intention is for people to continue any further meta discussion in this dedicated sticky here.
However, I'm actually starting to have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand it reduces the meta discussion on the front page so people can more easily find threads about primary vidya discussion. On the other hand, the main purpose of this thread here was to provide feedback on /svidya/ itself. It's gonna be more work if I have to sift through general complaining about the administration of other boards in order to get to criticism or suggestions for this one.
My general feeling is that this particular sort of meta discussion is relevant enough to be important to the board and its users, and so shouldn't be disallowed. I'm not really a fan of disallowing meta discussion in general, and I feel like the rule against flooding the board with many of the same thread should be adequate enough already to prevent meta discussion from ever hogging up too much of the board.
What are anons' thoughts on this matter?
No.19733
>>19658
Very strange, but thanks for sorting it.
>>19719
Personally I wouldn't have given those faggots their own general in the first place, but here we are… I think if you're determined to have a /v/ refuge, simply start another thread about it. No sense mixing /v/ politicking with this thread.
No.19755
>>19733
i second this. no sense in trying to join two topics together, although is the thread really necessary at this point? im not saying you should do anything one way or the other, just bringing the question to light.
No.19764
>>19719
In my opinion, you should tyrannically ban anyone who tries to bring other board shit here. I recently came here during the recent Mark drama and was almost completely put off when I saw that massive thread about Mark, literally the first thread.
Maybe I'm overstepping my mark HAHA GEDDIT IS JOKE, but I feel like /svidya/ should be a drama free zone.
No.19765
>>19764
I think the issue of meta discussion is a problem of giving people a place to discuss something that's critical to the function of their forum. If people aren't going to be allowed to discuss these things then where should they discuss them? Moot made a big mistake on halfchan back when he deleted /q/ in my opinion.
Now certainly, here on fullchan, one can simply make their own board for meta discussion. But is anyone going to listen to it? 8/v/ had /metav/ for a while but eventually people just stopped bothering with it, including the 8/v/ owner and volunteers. /svidya/ isn't anywhere big enough to warrant its own meta board yet, and sequestering meta discussion off to somewhere completely removed from the board itself may not be a good idea anyway.
No.19766
>>19765
Internal drama and meta is fine, it's when shit spills over from other boards is when the hammer should come out. We should not have a thread bitching about some other board owner splerging out. It might be isolationist, but fuck it. /v/'s problems are /v/'s problems. Otherwise /svidya/ will forever be the backup board for bitches complaining about mark to have their own little splerg out.
I'm here for serious video games discussions. No bullshit pls.
No.19779
>>19766
You do make a good point. However, I somewhat doubt the posting activity we have had the past few weeks (which is more than the entire last three months) would have happened had that meta thread not been allowed for people to talk about their dissatisfaction with /v/.
No.19795
any possibility of us getting a volafile room?
No.19818
>>19719
I don't want this place to have the same problem that /ggrevolt/ had, where it was /r/acidman for the first couple months of its existence. In my opinion, just cycle the thread. Bitching about /v/ shouldn't be the focus of this board.
No.19827
>>19795
Pretty easy to just make one, isn't it?
No.19867
>>19779
I'm amazed that it happened at all, to be honest. I mean, this is fucking hatechan - if you don't like the board you're on, go make your own. Camping at another isn't solving your problem, because upper management doesn't give a fuck.
No.19868
>>19867
>if you don't like the board you're on, go sit alone in you room
This is the problem with that.
No.19870
>>19868
>alone
>Christ knows how many /v/irgins who never gave two fucks about this place had the mind to come here at the same time, solely to bitch about their shit-stained ballpit
>a-fucking-lone
No.19871
>>19870
>>Christ knows how many /v/irgins who never gave two fucks about this place had the mind to come here at the same time
Not many. This is an already established board anyway, so I'm not sure why you're trying to draw a connection between moving to a pre-existing board and just up and making your own at the drop of a hat.
No.19878
>>18831
Hi /svidya/.
I've recently managed to claim /vvv/ so there is another viable alternative if anything goes wrong. I intend to keep the board clean but I won't really enforce serious ontopic discussions.
I don't intend to directly compete with this board as an alt/v/, but I'd appreciate some crossposting. I just wish we had multiboards already…
No.19882
>>19878
Sorry mang but I come to alternative vidya boards specifically to escape the random off-topic garbage driving /v/ into the ground. Good luck with your board though.
No.19884
>>19878
/vvv/ is literally just /v/, though. The whole purpose of the board according to the board's description is to be exactly what /v/ is. AKA /b/2.0
No.19893
>>19884
>/vvv/ is literally just /v/
No. It's /v/ without mark.
No.19901
>>19012
I thought you were on to something here but then I realized I'd been putting "video games" in the board title field instead of the tags field.
No.19919
All right seriously, is anyone else having trouble posting the last several days? I notice when I post with an image in particular that threads often don't update my post. It takes another post, without an image, in order to make them update the one with the image. I can't really tell if this is an /svidya/ problem or one across 8ch.
No.19921
>>19919
8ch has been shitting itself nonstop for 2 months.
No.19940
>>19921
prbably has to do with buis haxorz and the fact that all non-critical bugfixing has ceased onthe current 8ch to continue developing infinity next, which is in open beta, you should check it out sometime. speaking, BO have you opened up an Svidya board on infinity?
No.19944
>>19940
>BO have you opened up an Svidya board on infinity?
No, but do I need to? I would assume that Fredrick will allow board owners to smoothly transfer their boards over when it's time to migrate, right?
No.19958
>>19944
not a clue, honestly. might be worth looking into.
No.19962
>>19944
Only reason I can think of for doing so is to claim it yourself before some other chucklefuck does.
No.19963
As expected, this place is losing users and fast. People just came here to bitch about Mark and then leave, and there's very little actual discussion to be had. What can we do to help get this off the ground?
No.19964
>>19963
I seems to me like that ad was pretty effective and would have been even more effective had it not been trying to seed drama and make us look bad. I'd put some money down on an ad to get people over here like described here >>19170 if I actually had any.
Really I think people only stop by here when it seems like /v/ volunteers aren't doing their job. If /v/ ever actually gets its shit together this place won't really have a niche anymore.
No.20007
>>19963
We need more stuff like the moemon playthrough when this place first started out. I feel like /svidya/ is the only place right now for that sort of this because even if the thread doesn't get shitposted to oblivion, it's still too fast on /v/.
No.20012
>>20007
People need to make more threads in general I think. I try to myself, but I'm just not a very creative thread person.
No.20019
>>20012
ive been a little gunshy about making any more since all of mine have lesss than 10 replies 1 week out. i feel like i might be bumping off threads with actual discussion in them.
No.20024
>>19964
>If /v/ ever actually gets its shit together this place won't really have a niche anymore.
>im-fucking-plying
The mere existence of this place has proven one thing: that people on chans are capable of more than spewing meme-strewn single sentence witticisms on the topic of video games, but that's been the norm for so long, they'd prefer not to. Everyone who gives a flying shit about vidya is already in here. The fuckwits that put up with drama and propagate retarded /b2.0/ culture are already where they belong.
>>20019
Why not both?
Nobody's talking about vidya: everybody's in the meta-thread bitching about how nobody's talking about vidya.
No.20071
>>20024
>Everyone who gives a flying shit about vidya is already in here.
I've mostly stopped browsing chans at all after this whole Mark bullshit. This place is dead as fuck and I have tried making threads and posting here, but 90% of the posts here go to shitposting about Mark rather than video games so I just gave up on the internet as a whole. A decent online community does not exist.
No.20078
No.20093
>>18831
BO, what is your opinion on Mark and his recent shenanigans?
No.20097
No.20098
No.20099
Question: are /agdg/ dev threads allowed or are they too unrelated to vidya?
No.20100
>>20098
More specific please.
I would say that, generally, the board owner of /v/ does not seem to handle criticism very well. I see that he will often try to attack the character of posters when he can't win an argument, making them out to be a newfag/goon/int poster trying to burn 8ch to the ground/whatever else is the boogeyman of the day. This is the kind illogical tactic that may be fun or playful as anon, but it's really not something a board owner should be seen doing, especially when it relates to rationale for administrative decisions. Attacking your own userbase has the effect of pushing them away. Furthermore, it makes you look petty and this is not something you want people to associate with your board.
Now there are certainly times when you just can't please everyone. There are certainly also times when someone is just trying to get a rise out of you and only pretending to care about accountability. But this is why having a calm temperament and not overreacting is important for moderating any community. Everyone who disagrees with you isn't some shitstirrer just trying to create drama or bring the board down. Some of them are dedicated users who care deeply about their community and you should try to engage them seriously.
No.20101
>>20099
As long as they're about developing video games then I can't see why not.
No.20102
>>20099
While the logic of hatechan dictates that if you give enough of a fuck about the board topic, you'll be there and not here, I think this kind of "embassy" could actually work. Especially if you have a lot of content being generated.
Despite being someone who doesn't care about devving itself, I'd be interested in seeing some projects that anons knock up from time to time.
You could have weekly status reports or something, to let /bestvidya/ goers know how you're progressing. Or some such.
The cross-promotion aspect is a bit one-sided, but it could generate a few more users for both boards if used well.
No.20106
>dubs posting is bannable
>no poster ID's
>no rules regarding post quality or shitposting
For what goddamned purpose? If I wanted constant samefagging and shitposting, I'd still be on cuckchans /v/.
No.20108
>>20106
So you don't want shitposting, except you want to be able to shitpost with dubs crap?
No.20109
>>20108
>So you don't want shitposting, except you want to be able to shitpost with dubs crap?
>inb4 pretending to be retarded
No.20113
>>20078
>look it up
>first thread i see is a list of roguelikes
>lists binding of isaac and FTL as roguelikes
Nah.
>>20109
What point are you trying to make? Are you trying to say dubs isn't shitposting? You can leave now.
No.20127
This is probably more pertinent here than any other board on hatechan, but: we're going under. The site is falling over in its own sick more often than usual, so the move to Infinidicks is looming.
Quit bitching about /b2.0/'s faggotry and start archiving the good threads from around here.
No.20128
>>20127
It looks like everything including the threads is going to be transferred over when it's time.
>>>/next/1659
No.20129
>>20128
Why isn't this shit emblazoned across the top of all pages like the shit about 4chin's owner was?
No.20137
>>20127
Jeez, looks like the front page isn't even updating now.
No.20198
8ch crapping itself to death seriously couldn't have happened at a worse time. The page view not refreshing properly is killing activity around here.
No.20229
>>20198
> implying its not intentional
doesnt seem to be happening on the bigger boards, but then again i only go to /n/ and i use catalog view there.
No.20248
>>20229
It's happening on all the boards. It seems like the bigger boards just get a high enough post rate that the chance of a post randomly updating the page view properly is higher.
No.20265
>>20248
the biggest boards are stored on a separate hard drive from the rest so that they dont have this issue. smaller boards are moved there during happenings like /sp/ for the superbowl.
No.20269
>>20265
I guess /tv/ must not be one of them then because I definitely see it happening there.
No.20271
>>20269
its only "top boards," so take that however you will. i would assume that its just /v/ /b/ and /pol/ since theyre the only ones with significant PPH and UID's
im getting this from
>>>/operate/43365
its worth checking the whole thread out as well.
No.20273
apologies for not posting more. i have things i want to post about, but you would be surprised to know that it actually takes effort to make quabity posts.
No.20281
>>20273
>you would be surprised to know that it actually takes effort to make quabity posts
>quabity
It sure does, Tim, it sure does.
No.20285
> must upload an image
> with these fucking timed captchas
fuck you BO
No.20287
>>20285
well fucking hell, as soon as i record it haappening it fucking posts. anyway the problem is that by the time the images load, the captcha changes and you have to re-load them all over again with a different captcha. took me like ~10 minutes to make a thread.
No.20299
>>20287
I just click the captcha again to refresh it after I get my images and post sorted out.
No.20307
>>20071
This is an old post, but really? I hardly see anyone complaining about Mark on here now.
No.20313
>>20285
I'd really like to remove the new thread captcha but I'm kind of afraid the board is going to get spammed again and all the threads bumped off when I'm not around.
No.20317
>>20313
leave the captcha, remove image requirement.
No.20324
>>20317
Images are pretty useful for quickly finding threads on the catalog.
No.20336
Do you think I should unsticky the alltimevrecommendations wiki thread? It's been stickied almost since this board was made and it seems like people stopped caring about it ages ago.
No.20353
>>20313
I'm not convinced that's a huge factor in why people aren't contributing new threads. If having to captcha seriously puts you off posting entirely, it's likely you were going to generate /b2.0/ content anyway.
>>20336
I've just had it hidden forever. Maybe if you unsticky it, you could put a small reminder link up in the top message bar thingy (what the hell is that called?) so that it doesn't drop off the face of the earth entirely.
No.20359
>>20336
They're still working on it, but its your choice.
No.20377
So I wonder what is the plan of integrating with infinitenext? mark has already made a /v/ board there and I don't trust him as a BO
No.20386
>>20377
The plan is to just wait patiently for the site to move over I guess. I see no reason to make a separate board over there right now because the current content will stay here and it'll just split up the posting base.
No.20606
Bloody hell, I just wanted to have a normal thread…
Okay #BO, can you just delete every reply on >>20551 ? The whole thread was derailed. Look at this shit:
>>20559
>>20561
Poster starts talking about his own views how own games should work, which completely moves aside discussion about translations.
>>20562
>>20563
>>20565
>>20566
>>20567
>>20568
>>20569
>>20570
>>20571
>>20572
>>20573
Thread derailed to Myst afterwards.
I'd rather not continue replying to him on >>20575 since he seems too dense to understand what he's doing.
No.20612
>>20606
Shifting discussion is kind of the nature of image board discussions you know. It seems like kind of a hard topic to reply to substantively beyond "I agree", maybe try bumping it with another query?
No.20625
So, is this board any way active?
Community has gone to shit on /v/, well worse than before
No.20627
>>20625
Yes anon, we love talking about video games here!
No.20758
https://beta.8ch.net/svidya/thread/20352
"New" BO here. Looks like I accidentally inherited BETA /svidya/ as part of the ongoing migration to Next. Makes sense I suppose, since we're such closely related boards.
Ahem.
Figured I'd better let someone know, although your beta board appears to be unused at the moment. In the meanwhile you can try at guessing which original board BO this is. I'll own up after the migration is compete and everything is back to where, and who, it belongs.
Anyway, relax, Josh will get this straightened out soon enough.
No.20765
>>20758
I'm not sure how you pulled that off. When I log into the beta of Next it still says I'm the board owner there too.
No.20768
>>20606
>>20612
as the guy who derailed the thread i support the deletion. it was done of malice and not of legit conversational shift.
No.20774
>>20758
>>20765
Word was that BOs are transfered aswell.
Not making a guess because I never really knew any BO here and I don't think the clue in the filename is serious.
No.20787
>>20758
I noticed a while back that the "staff" listings for /svidya/ on Beta include everyone who's ever been on it (including previous owners and volunteers). That doesn't seem to be the case anymore though.
No.20791
>>20758
Whichever of the two previous board owners you happen to be, I would really like to know what made you leave/disappear in the first place and what you think of the board now.
No.20820
>>20791
>Whichever of the two previous board owners you happen to be,
Now that is an interpretation I didn't think of. Not the case though. I've never been to /svidya/ before the this random board assignment glitch happened.
>>20765
>I'm not sure how you pulled that off.
My uber haxxor method worked like this:
1. Log on to the Next control panel intent on getting some more practice in with the new settings.
2. Click on the "boards" tab.
3. Wait. What is this doing here? That's not my board!
In other words, it was a (not so well) known temporary problem related to one of the preliminary data migration steps done before the big one last night. Good for a few laughs, otherwise meaningless as that's all been trampled by the main migration.
And now … we wait.
No.20821
>>20791
>Whichever of the two previous board owners you happen to be,
Now that is an interpretation I didn't think of. Not the case though. I've never been to /svidya/ before the this random board assignment glitch happened.
>>20765
>I'm not sure how you pulled that off.
My uber haxxor method worked like this:
1. Log on to the Next control panel intent on getting some more practice in with the new settings.
2. Click on the "boards" tab.
3. Wait. What is this doing here? That's not my board!
In other words, it was a (not so well) known temporary problem related to one of the preliminary data migration steps done before the big one last night. Good for a few laughs, otherwise meaningless as that's all been trampled by the main migration.
And now … we wait.
No.20822
>Attempt reply …
>502
>404
>Flood detected. Post discarded.
>Duplicate post
Oufda.
No.20823
>>20820
I hope this shit gets ironed out fast, none of the posts made from now until it happens are going to get transferred over to Infinity.
No.21106
No.21107
So I guess Next is live now? And apparently four days of posts aren't getting transferred over?
No.21111
>>21107
who fucking knows at this point.
No.21115
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>>21111
Stellar get.
Why haven't you chaps moved over to endchan yet?
Even their /v/'s not horrible when they're not talking about meta bullshit.
No.21117
It's unlikely you know something but when's migration?
Also, pinging for interest in a thread about how Mechwarrior: Online fucked up. There's plenty of shit to be unearthed about PGI and I'd like discussing it in a place free of goons.
No.21130
>>21115
Let them get it out of their system. A lot of anons that stuck around on /v/ and tolerated Mark's bullshit need to air their problems.
No.21131
>>21115
I just want 8ch to work damnit.
No.21132
>>21117
>Also, pinging for interest in a thread about how Mechwarrior: Online fucked up.
Sorry mang I don't know shit about Mechwarrior. Hard to know when the sticky has something new because unlike other threads in the catalog it never moves.
No.21133
I would hope that when/if Next finally gets its shit worked out another migration will be attempted to recover all the posts made here since.
No.21134
>>21131
8chan is fucked. Smaller boards get killed by the larger boards, /v/ is run by a Redditor, Gamergate faggots shit up any board/thread they disagree with, and the site software is fucked.
No.21135
>>21134
>Smaller boards get killed by the larger boards
I think the Overboard thing on Next will be great for combating this at least.
No.21136
>>21135
>on next
>implying Next is happening
We're NEVER EVER getting it
No.21141
Did everyone leave for endchan
No.21143
>>21141
im browsing both, but 50 mb webms is mighty enticing.
No.21144
>>21115
i already have anon. no reason i cant use both.
No.21145
>>21135
endchan already has an overbard btw
No.21157
No.21181
>>21157
>current year
>having loyalty for a chan
wew.
No.21184
This Infinity shit really pisses me off. I wanted to prove that my conception of moderation could sustain a good community.
No.21185
>>21184
why get mad about things you have no control over?
No.21186
>>21185
All right, upsets me.
No.21187
>>21185
All right, upsets me.
No.21197
>>21186
>>21187
yes, and? how you react to things outside of your control is entirely within you to control.
No.21201
So glad this Josh Saga shit is finally over for 8ch. Maybe people will feel better about posting here again soon.
No.21212
>>21201
I hope. The site's lost a good couple of months due to a transition that ultimately never happened.
No.21235
How can we encourage people to post here again?
No.21242
Holy shit is the page view refresh actually working properly again? Did Fredrick actually fix the damn website?
No.21314
hey faggot, can you turn off the captchktchttykaghfdgsa? no one gives a fuck about this 2 bit board anymore
>>21242
no, he just undid an error that was making it fuck up faster than it otherwise would. if we had the traffic we previously had it would be just as shitty.
No.21318
>>21314
>>21315
All right fine, but I'm keeping the page count maximized and implementing a slightly long minimum text length for threads just in case. Probably still won't be enough to save this board if it gets spammed when I'm not around.
No.21319
>>21318
Fuck me, come on already.
No.21350
>>21318
>>21319
>>21314
I just had to delete a few pages of thread spam. Luckily they gave up/turned off their script after a few hours and didn't nuke the whole catalog, but evidently someone actually is desperate enough to continue trying to kill this board. I really am sorry to have to do this, but I'm turning the new thread captcha back on.
No.21353
>>21350
oh alright. how gay. thanks for being open to the idea though.