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751845 No.779
Going to make a master thread for our reviews, just to show that our tumblr might be dead, but shittywebcomics is still here. 8)
Going to kick this off with a new review, because I was planning to write a review of the new Invader Zim comic.
751845 No.780
Invader Zim #1
https://www.comixology.com/Invader-Zim-1/digital-comic/237264
If you're not aware of the original short lived Nickelodeon cartoon, Invader Zim was a cartoon about a dorky tryhard alien named Zim who is sent to "conquer" Earth as a joke by his commanders who simply want to get rid of Zim. Zim "infiltrates" earth by wearing a cheap disguise and going to school, where his conspiracy-minded dorky classmate Dib almost instantly realizes Zim is an alien and tries to get everyone to believe him, but no one cares. It's essentially the story of two outcast losers who are constantly at odds against each other.
I'll disclose early here that I liked the cartoon, though it was easily and somewhat fairly criticized for containing a lot of that lolrandum XD wacky humor that can easily be annoying to a lot of viewers, especially with Zim's legitimately retarded robot assistant GIR (Zim's leaders intentionally gave him a faulty robot). Jhonen Vasquez who created and wrote for the show, as well as cowriting this comic, is known for a lot of random wacky humor like that, but it's always measured with legitimate jokes, especially based on the characters and their personalities, which is why Invader Zim was a cult hit, not just because of the dumb randomness, but because it was legitimately funny, at least that's what I think.
The same applies to the comic, in fact I admire the willingness to change things up for the new comic story where it's skipped ahead an unknown amount of time, and Dib has become a shut in who is constantly trying to spy on Zim's house, but Zim hasn't shown up. Dib has become a bloated pimply stinky wretch, his life ruined by his obsession with Zim. Then Zim does, and Dib does a quick montage of getting back into shape, and then the comic ends as they're about to go back at it. Knowing the show, weird shit will probably happen.
The comic feels like it's still getting its footing, but it does still work and I found it legitimately funny, which is what a comedic comic book should do. I find it funny more in an entertaining way than a laughing out loud way, though a couple jokes did make me laugh, which is extremely rare, especially for a comic. I will probably buy more of this, though at a slow pace. Still, that's better than pretty much every other comic where I don't even buy it. My "must buy" list right now is currently Stray Bullets and nothing else, I don't even feel much motivation to buy Saga and I've been reading that from the beginning.
Anyway, overall I would recommend this comic to anyone who liked the show. If you're not familiar with the show, you can probably find it easy to pirate somewhere, and I'd recommend the show before the comic.
9aa70e No.811
>>780
I have been meaning to pirate Zim for a while now. Keep hearing it's good in the ways that Adventure Time blows. But maybe that's cuz it predates the current hipster SJW faggotry that's oozing out of Cartoon Network.
Either way fuck you.
But I'll check out the show.
542b59 No.821
>>780
Thanks for the review. I'm actually a long time invader zim fan, and while I agree with a lot of what you say, there are some finer points that I would like to digress on. For instance, you claim that there's a lot of non-sequitur humor in the show, but what needs to be noted is that if you miss the subtle references, connotation or implications, you might just think that it's just that, a "random joke". I do grant there are some clearly inexplicable, unrelated gags, but these can also fall easily into the absurdist side of the show and its universe, which is, on its own,just a different layer of complexity. Overall, I'd say there's more subtle humor at different levels than there is genuine "random" skits.
One of my legitimate concerns about the comic was that it might lose its sharpness due the decade long that accompanied. Sure, it's being done by Vazquez himself, and according to blogs he always kept the invader arc running in his head. But what worries me is that a decade is a long time–yes, even for an adult–and subtle but significant changes in characters, life circumstances, and overall general state of mind could easily flip the show into a complete different direction. So far I have to say that I was a little disappointed with the endof this first "episode" where the conclusion was just kind of silly…kind of hot air coming out of a balloon. It's definitely too early to pass strong judgment but I do hope that the next issues improve in quality, perhaps indeed as mr. Jhonen starts "warming" up officially into the series again.
I'll also end by saying that I strongly recommend the show to anyone and not feel discouraged by some fat-annoying girl wearing a gir-hoody–the show really is very unique, imaginative and really stood out from the rest at the time it was released, especially under the context in which was created. Give it a try.
59fe93 No.840
The artist for Zim, Aaron Alexovich, is bestest buddies with Drew Rausch (they often share a table at cons). Drew is friends with Kate Leth from working together on Edward Scissorhands (I don't believe he knew her that well before that; he got the gig drawing Edward because of a fan art print of the character he's been selling for many years on the con circuit). Drew's a bit simple and harmless, and has the reputation of being a himbo, but Alex panders to the SJW's mercilessly. He's always patting himself on the back for his lipstick lesbian character Serenity Rose, thinking he was a brave pioneer or something, coming up with her. Though it seems like he made her lesbian because he couldn't stand the thought of his dream girl character with a fictional boyfriend. But anyway, Alex is now in the same circle as Kate.
751845 No.1338
I (finally) pirated and started reading The Boys, after only having read the first volume previously, I got the omnibus 1, and I'm downloading omnibus 2 right now, and tomorrow I'll get omnibus 3.
I considered reviewing it. I have a lot of thoughts about it, some positive but a surprising amount of negative thoughts, and many criticisms are specific to this comic but also specific to the entire comics industry, specifically its political affiliation, the whole "Bush derangement syndrome" prevalent not only in this comic but pretty much all comics of the era, not smart enough to see past any of it, and Garth Ennis is very much stuck in a cold war mentality like most plebs, where the only enemy that makes sense is either the nazis or the russians, a large uniformed force. They have extreme trouble going after islam because first it means attacking the religion itself, which all of these writers don't have the smarts OR the balls to do (yet ironically The Boys tries to be written as if it has all the balls in the world). It's the same thing that Team America made fun of already, where the hollywood liberal celebrities blame the corporations as a way of white knighting for real terrorists and dictators. The Boys is voicing that viewpoint that Team America already mocked and destroyed, because Trey Parker and Matt Stone understand shit. It would be nice if comic books had ANYONE with that kind of perspective. Bosch Fawstin at least will criticize islam openly, but that's just one guy. And certainly don't hold your breath for a female comic book writer to have that. It would take some original free thinking, and women who do that are rare enough, especially as most of them are feminists and are incapable of free thought.
There's an intense phenomenon these days for people who are the most enslaved in thought to imagine themselves as free thinkers, which discredits legitimate free thought, and attacks true free thinkers as somehow being oppressive. This is worth writing a story about. This is worth acknowledging. I understood this 10 years ago. The Boys displays an overt lack of awareness of this phenomenon and this objective reality. Most of the comic reads like a backlash against Bush era corporate America warmongering maaaaaaaaaan, blaming America for the terrorist attacks on itself, when any honest in depth objective analysis of terrorism proves beyond reasonable doubt that terrorism is caused by a desire to convert the entire world to a single global ideology, that of islam. The koran overtly states that any societies that are non-muslim are to be subjugated and conquered, and that a muslim that does not try to spread sharia law is to be put to death.
This doesn't mean that the entire comic is worthless, it's still a big edgelord hyperviolent western comic about superheroes who murder other superheroes. The idea of superhero comics being the safe happy front for secret superhero debauchery is part of the comic's attempt at "WOKE, MAAAAAN" which rings false to anyone with true intelligence and a grasp of objective reality, but that doesn't mean the comic is wrong about the facile nature of superhero comics. It's the attempt to tie that in with western civilization (and even legit and existing western chauvinism and fucking up) is where the story fucks up, like most comics and art and leftist comedians and other ultimately dishonest people who thrived in the Bush era.
Ultimately, I don't think I'll bother with a review. I already know what The Boys gets wrong. I don't even feel it's worth pointing out to anyone else who isn't already aware of it. I'd rather focus on making my own stuff that gets it right. Why review when you can create? That's why I'm glad SWC is gone. It was time to take things to the next level.
9421e3 No.1340
>>1338
>> people who are the most enslaved in thought to imagine themselves as free thinkers, which discredits legitimate free thought, and attacks true free thinkers as somehow being oppressive
help I can't stop cumming
9aa70e No.1341
>>1338
I fucking hate to say it but I NEED YOU TO TELL ME WHAT TO THINK!
No but seriously if RLM can create shit at the same time as reviewing stuff so can you niggers.
Granted they do a lot more reviewing than creating by my count but I like to think I've grown a lot through SWC so idk don't stop helping fucks like me swallow the red glasses
68a874 No.1354
>>1338
The Boys really falls apart when it tries to say "all violence = bad". Even when it seems like it might be showing you some exceptions where violence is actually good, it gets undermined later. But to go into detail would spoil some things. Actually to really talk about the comic at all you have to talk about the ending, so if you're into this shit let us know when you've finished.
It's a very good "juvenile" comic and should've just stuck to that because all the moralizing really drags it down. It's pretty fucking cool seeing superpeople tear each other apart and rape bitches. No need to be an asshole and shame me for enjoying the torture porn YOU wrote.
This is why despite incomprehensible stories all Jap comics are superior. If they want to have a horse fuck a girl until her innards explode, they just go for it.
751845 No.1357
I'm in the second omnibus now and for the most part it's dropped the Bush derangement syndrome for getting down to superheroes raping and murdering each other constantly and the attempt at infiltrating the superheroes. It's settled into a story, and it's attempted tone of being grossout wacky comedy, a ton of overt references to Animal House, as if the comic is trying to be Animal House: The Superhero Comic. Right now they have the Simon Pegg guy infiltrating the X Men, which is essentially a giant frat house. That's not necessarily a bad thing but it's incredibly juvenile, as intended, but to me that's the problem with most comic books in general, they're really dumb. Garth Ennis is at the very least much smarter about being dumb, though. But it sort of underlines the problem, as good as Ennis is, he's still essentially writing from the perspective of the jaded college student whose eyes were just opened by his college professor man, except more cynical and lots more swearing and violence and bitterness.
So there's much less to complain about in this. As far as the stuff I would've complained about fully, I already did in the post I wrote up there. That's pretty much what my review would've consisted of, just those thoughts.
A lot of the B story involves Simon Pegg guy falling in love with the new girl from the main bad guy super team but neither of them know it. The story intersects a lot of her horror at the reality of the superheroes and that kind of stuff, which works pretty well.
The second omnibus starts with a glowing blurb full of swear words from Damon Lindelof, the hack that wrote Prometheus and a bunch of the shittier parts of Lost. Not a good sign, but then again if one of the creators of Lost wants to put in a blurb about how much he loves your comic, it's not a great idea to say no.
Darrick Robertson's not a bad artist, but I don't like his stuff. That western style of putting too many lines on the faces. He makes everyone look really old, even if they're not supposed to be. A lot of things tend to look stiff. There's certainly something to be said about how much more expressive the simplistic faces are in Japanese comics. The faces in western comics are more complexly drawn but end up much less expressive.
As it is, I'm getting through the comic, it's not painful to read and it's not ugly. It works, and I appreciate a comic that portrays superheroes as overpowered sociopaths with no responsibility. I do agree that this is probably what real life superheroes would be like.
751845 No.1358
>>1341
they also get legit money for what they do.
money we do not get.
and we still update more often than they do.
751845 No.1390
About halfway into omnibus 2 and again this comes up so I got to say something about it.
One of the leaders of another off-brand super team is named "Stormfront" and he's an actual for real nazi, german supersoldier that was made with the original chemical thing that essentially created superheroes, this V shit, which just reminds me of V HEAD JUNKIES COULD GO OFF WITHOUT A WARNING, I HAD TO BE CAREFUL as I blast them with a double barrel in the back of the head haha.
But the point of The Boys is that this is where superheroes come from. All of them are just people who were injected with this V shit. It gives all of them super strength, but also gives some of them slightly random powers as well.
So Stormfront is one of the originals, and he's a big bad evil nazi and he tries to fight The Boys and he beats up the gril on the team and he's racist and all that. So they beat him to death, feels good, etc.
But this is the problem with this comic which underlines the inferiority of modern comics and art, period.
They beat up a nazi, that's great, but they're the enemies from over 60 years ago. How about something modern? Something actually relevant to RIGHT NOW? Where are the muslim terrorists?
They're brushed off as insignificant and inferior. They're never even shown. This is exactly why 9/11 was allowed to happen, because the entire world blew off muslim terrorists as not being strong or organized enough to pose a serious threat.
Modern artists don't know how to understand this kind of enemy. They don't wear identical crisp clean bold stylish uniforms. They aren't white. They're not from Europe. They're not waging a technologically advanced war. They're dressed in rags and are using stolen scraps of anything they can find and figuring out how to use it to kill civilians. Their main targets is civilians, they don't declare war on any military.
And not a single one of these comic writers seems to have the fucking balls to acknowledge this. Instead, when superpowered muslims show up in a comic, it's so they can be the good guys. How and for what? It will never be said. They can never get into the meat of that kind of ideology, because the core concept of islam is identical to the nazis: Allah says that the world must be subjugated under islamic law or die. To attack muslim terrorists or supervillains is to attack the religion itself, because the religion itself is evil and incorrect and preaches intolerance and hate and bigotry.
Of course, there's like two exceptions to this, one is Bosch Fawstin, and like I said earlier, that's just one guy. Where's the rest?
751845 No.1391
I remember when that Salt movie came out with Angelina Jolie, the villains were Russians, and Jim Norton made some tweets about how out of date and irrelevant hollywood was for continuing to resort to russians as villains, as if it was still the cold war, and hollywood was afraid to update to modern times. He trashed the movie and hollywood for being embarrassing and out of touch and delusional and frightened like babies.
This is what I think of every time someone tries to milk the russians as the big bad guy in a video game or in a comic book. Garth Ennis does it quite a lot and I barely tolerate it, it's still embarrassing.
Nazis are the same, if not worse. Real life nazis today are less of a threat than mormons, let alone muslim terrorists.
It's proof of the paternalistic racism of liberals. They don't want to attack islam out of some fake respect or tolerance, but the reality is that they don't give a fuck who muslims usually target, which is either other muslims, or the kurds. Liberals don't give a fuck about kurds, and in any instance seem to hate the kurds because the kurds were not against the Iraq war, therefore making them bad. A liberal would rather pin the blame on America or Israel than islam or Saddam.
This is why comic books are inferior. These types are the ones writing them. It's not the medium itself that is inferior, simply the talent pool.
68a874 No.1408
The Iron Man movies *almost* say that Muslims are the enemy but they never quite do it.
In the first film, Tony Stark was kidnapped in Afghanistan by "The Ten Rings" which are not explicitly called Muslim terrorists but well they sure act like them.
In the third film we're given every reason to think that "The Mandarin" is a Muslim terrorist because everything he does looks like the actions of Muslim terrorists, but again it's not explicitly stated. And then The Mandarin turns out to be an actor hired by a gay American businessman.
And the second movie had a gay businessman and a 1980s Russian stereotype as the villains which is one reason it was the shittiest one.
Another trend you'll notice in Hollywood is that nobody fights the Chinese. Why? Because China is a huge money-maker for movie companies and they get triggered by any Chinese villains ever.
So again, our major villains for this century, the Muslims and the Chinese? We can't make them the villains of our films.
At least with the Nazis and Commies you knew where America stood. Now we're sucking our enemies off and begging for them to cum on our faces, all while they indoctrinate their people against us and train their soldiers.
751845 No.1410
>>1408
Iron Man 1 I consider different, because at least they were in there and they were bad guys. At the very least they did that. The stakes for movies are higher than comic books and they still did it. I respect that a lot.
The stakes for comic books are nothing, so they can afford to have any enemy they want. In fact, Garth Ennis is unafraid to portray blacks quite negatively, and you know UK types are less influenced to be polite and PC to American gang thugs. Not out of a hatred of blacks but because of the gang culture which is legitimately bad.
9aa70e No.1465
>>1358
True.
I do love you guys and think you don't contradict yourselves as much as RLM.
Few things piss me off more than somebody who can't even agree with his OWN opinion and pretty much every critic does that given a long enough period of time.
9aa70e No.1466
>>1408
What was it, the Red Dawn remake? I think that was it.
They actually had finished the movie but then had to go back and do reshoots which delayed the movie for a year and spent a fuckload of money on CGI to alter uniforms and shit because the studio wanted to change the bad guys from being the Chinese to being North Korea.
68a874 No.1470
>>1466
Yeah, Red Dawn remake is the one.
But since we're talking about comics where Muslims are the villains, I remembered that Frank Miller did one!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Terror_(graphic_novel)
Upon release, Holy Terror was criticized as anti-Islamic propaganda. Spencer Ackerman of Wired said,
"Frank Miller doesn't do things halfway. One of the true comic-book greats, he’s created several of the most extraordinary stories ever to grace the art form. So perhaps it's fitting that now he's produced one of the most appalling, offensive and vindictive comics of all time … Miller's Holy Terror is a screed against Islam, completely uninterested in any nuance or empathy toward 1.2 billion people he conflates with a few murderous conspiracy theorists."[14]
No idea if it has anything to say or if it's just some guy beating up Muslims. Even if that's all it is, sounds like a fun comic. Everyone else gets to get punched in the face in comic books, why not some Muslims?
751845 No.1480
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>>1470
Frank Miller wanted to cause offense with that comic and it worked, the guilty white shitlibs walked right into the spinning blades on that one.
The real crime of Holy Terror was that it was mundane. Pigman does it way better, I think. Holy Terror still has a few truly great segments, but don't leave it up to the rest of the plebian comic readers to understand what those great parts are, or why they're great.
751845 No.1540
>>1531
Wow I almost forgot about writing these posts. It makes me realize how necessary and important our blog was in saying what other people were too afraid to say. 8)
751845 No.1634
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Our patreon is officially shut down. I want to give a thanks to the donators who helped to keep the lights on during our blog's run. Although I blew most of that money on drawings.
I did finish reading The Boys. The final omnibus does pick up some, although there's that Garth Ennis style of dragging feet by clogging up with a lot of dialogue. A lot of yarn unraveling. That's okay. Especially for comics. My only problem is that I've always felt that the standards for other mediums were so much higher, people usually want to tighten up dialogue, keep it short and sharp. Not in comics, and sometimes not in novels though. In a TV show or movie, your time is much more limited, that's the impetus on revising and tightening things down, making dialogue smarter, less bloated.
Of course, as with most other artists, there's no impetus on understanding the world around you. No artists dig to find out the truth of Ferguson, the lie that misleads the populace and the art community. The same for islam. The same for gamergate. The same for feminism. The same for most riots and crimes and shooting deaths and their politics in general. The people who do understand these things? They're not artists, they're just people, investigators, contrarians, skeptics, thinkers. But they don't really make art.
Spoilers for the end of The Boys and I think this is the proper tag for it [spoilers]Billy Butcher who is the big guy who leads The Boys ends up killing all the main big bad superheroes in an attempted coup on the US, but afterwards there's one last arc where he keeps killing the remain superheroes, including his own team, leaving only the nice Scottish newb guy Hughie, and then Butcher is like "I got these dirty bombs made with the V superhero serum and it will infect everyone with a bad version of the serum that makes people's heads blow up from earlier in the comic," and only Hughie knows about it so they have a confrontation in the Empire State Building that's actually very awkwardly cut so it's hard to tell what happens or how, but Butcher's neck is broken so he's paralyzed and he tells Hughie that he killed his parents recently so he manipulates Hughie into killing him, and then turns out his parents are still alive, Butcher's plan was apparently to end all superheroes including himself, and leave Hughie as his nicer person replacement, as if to say that Butcher knew he was too much of a nut to be in charge of this shit.[/spoilers]
Kind of a big twist I guess. I kind of liked it. It fit the characters and the story, was foreshadowed pretty well. Overall, I didn't think the comic was that bad, but not exactly a necessary one. I'd recommend it if you're looking for something a little under 100 issues that features a lot of superheroes getting trashed or torn apart. Although, I'm not a fan of superheroes either, and I still found the comic just a little above average overall. For comics, the average is so low already, this isn't saying much.
I also read That Yellow Bastard recently. I've seen Sin City a couple of times, but only read a few of the books, and not the ones that were adapted. It was on sale so I grabbed it up quick. If you've seen the movie, That Yellow Bastard is just a slightly unabridged version. Frank Miller's dialogue also is quite clogged, repetitive, and that was a benefit of the movie. The movie makes the whole chapter run so much tighter, and is able to combine it with the other chapters to form a big sleazy narrative that's fun to watch (unless you're some dishonest feminist beta cuck that whines about anything Frank Miller writes). The book is basically as good, just a little longer, a little more redundant. I will admit, that's the part of Miller's writing I don't like, the redundancy. Sometimes that's no problem, because the words just become a sort of decoration on the page, still kept brief, meant to show a tense situation where people dwell on fears and such. To me, it's not incredibly effective. But the comics themselves, their visuals and their weird irony and strange moments, that's what works, and I like it.
b52bc3 No.1664
The Ms. Marvel Reviews
Unfortunately, there's one or two posts missing that I could find scrounging the net.
But here's most of the bits from SWC award-winning run down of everyone's favorite diversified superhero.
b52bc3 No.1679
751845 No.1680
I unfollowed crappy webcomics after it's last post.
they won't even FUCKIN try.
8ebc9d No.1733
>>840
Before the whole sjw kerfuffle of the last couple of years I quite liked Serenity Rose. Now it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
9aa70e No.1810
>>1736
Haha that one about the Indian who reeked of curry was one of my asks. I think I was drunk at the time which is why it rambles towards the end.
Seriously that guy fucking ponged. Like he was a nice guy. I ACTUALLY LIKED THE SON OF A BITCH. I even felt really bad for him when people were making fun of him openly for how bad he stunk but my god did he stink like shit every fucking day that I knew him.
9aa70e No.1811
>>1678
Lol that first thread picture.
>we care do little about swc, SERIOUSLY LOOK HOW LITTLE WE CARE ABOUT THIS BLOG LET ME JUST GO BACK ONE MORE TIME AND SCREAM ABOUT WHAT IS THERE THAT UPSETS ME BUT I TOTALLY FONT CARE WBOUT THEM AT ALL!!!!!
Fuck, like I knew these faggots who hated SWC would constantly come back to read it but god damn I never actually saw this level of autism. Fucking starting a thread elsewhere to complain about a blog they're all claiming they're not interested in at all.
And that last part is like that Woody Allen restaurant joke
>Fag 1: The content on this blog is terrible, offensive & of no interest whatsoever.
>Fag 2: Yeah, and they hardly ever talk about webcomics anymore.
751845 No.1812
>>1811
When someone tells me a blog is terrible and offensive, all that does is make me think, "I should read it, it's probably interesting."
And of course the "it's not even interesting" is an attempt to proactively deflect that fact that our blog was too interesting and people would flock to it, which they did. OOPS? 8)
124048 No.1818
>>1812
It definitely was the case in your blog. I really do miss checking out SWC. Used to go there 2 or 3 times a day.
b52bc3 No.1837
>>1824
Who the hell drew these? Parker's daughter looks like she has Down Syndrome.
751845 No.1838
>>1837
An American comic artist.
I think Quesada himself did the art though, but it's on par for American comic art.
751845 No.1848
751845 No.1849
>>1848
Here's a cap of the whole article just in case.
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6e5b51 No.2004
I finished most of Punisher Max finally. Like I think there's a few stand alones I've not found Fucking hell you guys were right about it taking a nosedive post #60 after Garth Ennis left.
But even then he had to go out with an extremely fruity "Vietnam was bad" story.
I hated it when what happens to O'Brian happened too. Mainly because she's only in 3 stories and from the start of the 2nd youve already guessed how she'll be written out of the series.
Didn't even make sense really. She is kicking herself for being so close to destroyed tanks so she should've known better but then Frank is walking right next to her and he DEFINITELY should know better.
0e1f88 No.2128
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even in the nineties everyone correctly regarded preacher as the edgelordest, try-hardest, fedora-tippingest faggot shit from a guy upset that his mom made him go to church ever
I admit that the comic did have some funny moments and it had good pacing but the whole thing is mostly just an embarrassment
b52bc3 No.2129
>>2128
Oh good, I thought it was just me. I read the first five or six issues, and read enough about the rest of the series. Most of it looked like someone just trying their hardest to be "shocking" but the whole thing just seemed pretty silly.
dfc406 No.2130
>>2128
I certainly enjoyed parts of Preacher but overall it's not particularly good.
It starts strong, and has an interesting atmosphere, but the arc drops off after the first third. Too much focus on pointless drama around Cassidy.
Seth Rogen is a shit dude too, I don't expect him to 'do justice' to the source material.
e4ea62 No.2132
>>2128
That trailer didn't even seem to have a fucking thing to do with the comic's actual plot. I'd assume it's some completely unrelated thing about a priest who's secretly a hitman, rather than a story about a dude who gets a bunch supernatural bullshit put into his head and decides to go tell off god.
I wonder if it will be another izombie thing where instead of distilling all the comic's unnecessary bullshit into a solid story, it just takes the most superficial elements and makes up a totally new property with the same name
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eb911e No.2217
>>1634
I just finished The Boys myself. Kinda because you guys were talking about it.
Yeah pretty much agree. It's really funny that they make such a big deal about 9/11 and the role the supes played in it and how this is proof that they're dangerous…..then never mention the terrorists that were actually responsible for it. But the war on terror was totes wrong and all about money guys!
Spoilers.
I have no idea how exactly Simon Pegg got stabbed through the leg by a landing on a curved fence at the end. I stared at that panel for a good while and I guess he bounced up off the ground? I don't know.
I think that as Butcher's rampage started ramping up there wasn't enough care given to what he was doing. Like when Terror gets killed it's a big deal, then when M.M is killed it's a big deal but when Frenchie & The Female are killed it's just like whatever. Pissed me off because I would have preferred if The Female would have been the only character who made it out alive. Being the most volatile of the entire gang and in the end being the only one left with a life at the end would have been better than her being killed by a random explosion which served no purpose to Butchers plan.
I also thought it was funny that Butchers final speech to Simon Pegg-guy was how men need women and that he needed to go and grab a hold of his supe girlfriend and never let her go and he was nothing without her….when her character had absolutely nothing going for her other than she was bukkake'd by the other members of The 7 and that destroyed her faith in God & supes. Everything she is as a character comes from the fact she blew a bunch of guys. It's ironic because I think it was A train & The Homelander saying the only reason they hired her was because they wanted to destroy her and even then it wasn't any more fun than seeing her covered in cum.
I liked Superduper and thought Butchers handling of them was good foreshadowing. They were the most genuinely caring supes in the entire series, moreso than Peggs cumtarget girlfriend, and Butcher clearly hated them as much as all the rest and would have killed them for no other reason than the V in their blood.
eb911e No.2223
I read The Boys as a follow up to Punisher MAX.
Wondering what would you guys suggest as a follow up to that if anything?
751845 No.2224
>>2223
Apocalypse Meow (aka Cat Shit One).
And then probably nothing. The comics industry is a barren wasteland when it comes to quality storytelling, or even moderately entertaining comics. 99% of comics are enragingly boring stupid bland empty meaningless paste for only the most retarded of retards. 0.9% are mildly entertaining at best. 0.09% are moderately entertaining. 0.01% are actually good.
eb911e No.2233
>>2226
Lol I remember that post about Trees. That's why I was so apprehensive over Punisher Max and The Boys.
Then I remembered that the whole #changethecover faggotry showed me so many comic writers & artists have turned into what would've been their own worst enemy 20 years ago.
Pity that. Guess I gotta read some Crying Freeman now or something else from the 90s if I want a comic by someone who doesn't come off like a total cuck.
>>2225
Ok. I'll check that out thanks for the suggestion.
eb911e No.2234
Whoops replied to wrong post there.
>>2224
I actually meant I'd check this one out.
Actually fuck it I'll try out Crossed as well. Thanks for the suggestions everyone.
9421e3 No.2255
>>2233
>Warren Ellis
I've been told, doesn't want to do comics. He's been, allegedly, hustling to hit the get-rich-quick TV/film rights cash in for the past decade-plus… unfortunately for him, I don't think there have been any takers (I could see Transmet getting an adaptation if Preacher is received well, but he doesn't own a piece of that).
And, yes, this is the exact same thing he wrote 888 screeds about on his old website/mailing list: That Marvel/DC only cared about cashing in on rights for merch and films. What about the comics maaaaan. Oops.
>Crying Freeman
Is there a hookup on uncensored/less censored versions? I remember flipping through some of it, and it looked like somebody took an eraser to all the good stuff :(
751845 No.2274
>>2261
Goddamn did I need to proofread a bunch of this shit.
That's the reality of SWC, it was writing by the seat of our pants. I'd fire off several paragraphs, hit post, and never think about it again.
For the record, screencapping a post looks better vertical than horizontal.
710eac No.2311
Anything paid for a published by a mainstream corporate publisher will never be rebellious or edgy. Write it, edit it, draw it, ink it, color it, print it yourself, and try to get people to buy it, and then we'll talk. Laughably, people refer to Image as an "indie" publisher… What the fuck social norms are women in contemporary Western society punished for breaking? No one gives a shit. In fact, most these days are exceedingly socially libertarian. The SJW's are the ones who are trying to force puritanical values on everyone, attempting to stifle our freedom and stomp on our unalienable rights.
751845 No.2314
It was hard for us to portray and express just how bad this feminist trend is in comics. I think it might be impossible. It's like if a religion of psychopathic mass murderers (like you know islam) had control of the ENTIRE mainstream media from MSNBC even down to Fox News, and had convinced the entire world that they were eternally victims, and their attempt to combat their victimhood was to destroy the lives of every innocent around them, male AND female. Imagine that, and you've only realized the slightest hint of the reality of this threat.
Millions of innocent lives are being destroyed. The reason why the male suicide rate is so high is because of this, specifically, and when feminists realize this they create memes and macros of how they laugh about it. All because of false oppression they pretend to face, but the female gender had never faced, ever.
And all of the negative effects of this are feminism backfiring on women. So what do feminists do? They say that instead the negative effects that feminism is responsible for? They say that it's the negative effects of patriarchy. When it's objectively and quantifiably proven that women have twice as many rights as every man, in the first world. Even in the third world, women are still treated as sacred and holy (though the third world is the only place where you could legitimately say women face oppression).
Feminism is a false concept, based entirely on a matrix(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) of false narratives interweaving and overlapping constantly. It is destroying society itself, which will ultimately destroy women as a gender, and it already is destroying women as a gender, as all the drug addiction and alcohol and depression that is now quantifiably endemic in first world women is a result of feminism, it's the result of women who don't WANT the responsibilities that men have. The women who are honest enough to admit this get attacked from a full scale mass mainstream media army of delusion and lies, cries of "internalized misogyny" become the narrative directed at women who are honest and speak truths that destruct the false feminist narrative. And even with all that, the feminists, who control the mainstream media narrative, will still claim that they are somehow fighting (false imaginary non-existent) oppression. A few people are slowly waking up to the reality that when a feminist calls anything "oppression" 100% of the time it is merely disagreement or debunking of feminist lies. All of this has been objectively proven to anyone with even the slightest amount of cognition of reality.
People had to have this beaten into their heads for them to realize it. We realized it when we were 11 years old without even trying. The fact that we can do it without trying, while the rest of the world is still lagging behind, this is why lies win and the truth loses.
And this Lovecraftian horror is punctuated every time you see one of those NC tattoos or a typically fawning review of Bitch Planet (a negative review would be called sexist before it's even finished being written).
9aa70e No.2319
>>2314
Gotta say the longer your posts go on the harder my dick gets.
I really do miss reading SWC and Logicd posts every day.
Do you think coming to a better understanding of feminism at a younger age had to do with your upbringing?
751845 No.2321
These are the intended results of feminsim AND the practiced outcome of feminism.
For anyone who forgets, this is the guy who landed a probe on a comet, and feminists were only obsessed with how his shirt had drawings of attractive girls on it.
This is why feminism, ALL FEMINISM, is regressive and wrong. There was no form of feminism that supported this man's freedom to wear the shirts he wants. There was no form of feminism that was honest or objectively correct about the reasons women are less likely to choose STEM and IT fields.
751845 No.2322
>>2319
I really don't know, I think there was a part of it, but I remember I learned the most about marriage from watching TV. Married With Children was a goofy comedy sitcom, but it seemed to paint an unusually honest and realistic picture of the reality of marriage. That and I saw girls even in school get preferential treatment from teachers, they pretty much got a free ride. I saw it from the majority of girls around me in life. I thought, "why is it harder for me, just because I'm male?" And that was kind of it. I did spend many years in my teenage life burying that and trying to ignore it, but it didn't take much for it to come back up, though my brother (se) was much more aware of it and did far more research about it than I did.
9aa70e No.2329
>>2322
You just reminded me when I was 7 I think it was, a friend and I noticed our female 2nd grade teacher gave more time to girls than to boys.
We actually took a tally one day and found that whenever there was a question or interaction with the class the vast majority of the time she would ask girls for input.
I told my mother and she went to the school to ask the teacher what the fuck was up with that. It's foggy after that. I'm pretty sure the teacher talked to me about it but can't remember how salty she was.
But you're right that even children can see through this shit. It's like with Sunday school. Children can see the whole thing is fucking ridiculous and for the same reasons that adult atheists bring up.
So in both cases it's important to silence the child and to force feed them ideology until they stop asking questions and just become true believers.
751845 No.2341
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Unrelated, but something has bothered me for the past year or so regarding comic books, as far as social justice infiltration of them.
It's not that SJWs are trying to infiltrate comics.
It's that the comics that SJWs are infiltrating aren't worth saving. And most comic book faggots are total cucks to the shitty comics they like.
It's like saying "oh no, social justice is infiltrating my infected toenails!" Your toenails aren't supposed to be infected in the first place, nigga. These people don't even want their hobby free of social justice. They just want to keep their hobby stupid and childish. But that's why social justice got in so easily, because it was a stupid childish aspect of the medium. Cape comics are literally the absolute rock bottom weakest section of the ENTIRE medium. For fuck's sake people were complaining about social justice infiltrating Transformers comics. TRANSFORMERS COMICS. Maybe if these people had better taste, there wouldn't be any of this problem. It's because no one SHOULD give a shit in the first place. These comics are nothing more than drawn fanfics. That's all they've ever been. They were never any good. Even the good stuff. Shit, I'd say even Watchmen is merely "good" and not much more. Even Garth Ennis puts out some really lame shit. Even some of his good comics have really dumb parts in them (the comparisons between the Iraq war and the Vietnam war, though at least that's on par with the mainstream pleb's simplistic view of Iraq, which people are still barely waking up to now even after the continued wakeup calls happening in Paris to this day).
People still begging us to do the mental heavy lifting that they can't do themselves, but we got a piece of bad news for you: we're playing Fallout 4. It's too late for you. Especially for /co/ucks. Their worship of the lowest of the low in comic books is the reason why Marvel and DC can walk all over them. They're not strong or smart enough to go anywhere better. They're complaining that someone took their expired lumpy milk and mixed it with asparagus, and what they want is their expired lumpy milk back without the asparagus.
751845 No.2343
Looking at the comic books I own, I can't really name one that's any better or more insightful than just the little pamphlet sized Christopher Hitchens books (No One Left to Lie To, A Long Short War), or What's Left by Nick Cohen. Just a couple of nonfiction political polemics, regular old statements of reality, and there isn't a comic book made that can stand up to that shit.
I'd say the best comic book I own is Asterios Polyp, because it's an original story and it's about something. That's one of the only comics I'd put up against something like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest or To Kill a Mockingbird or even Jurassic Park and so on. I wouldn't say Asterios Polyp is perfect (the whole opera recreation might come off as pretentious, though to me I saw it as kind of comedic in its recreation of operatic drama, and it reminded me of those Loony Tunes opera bits).
But what else do I have comic wise that can even stand up to the average novel? I have one of the Parker comics, and that's based on a novel so that doesn't count. No one wrote the Parker novels as comics. Maybe no one ever will.
Watchmen, again I think that's overrated. It's a good comic. I wouldn't put it up against Cuckoo's Nest, I just don't think it's as good. In fact, I think Moore's other works detract from Watchmen. V for Vendetta I've read, and it's not really that good either, it's average, all it did was do things that other comics wouldn't do first. That's how far behind comics are: they're still not up to the level of a somewhat cheesy self-serious pretentious anarchist "magician."
Scott Pilgrim is okay at best, cutesy and video game nostalgia transposed over 20 year old life relationships. The Sin City books are good and entertaining and fun, though cheesy and not that serious in general, not that comics NEED to be serious, but something this balls to the wall can't exactly be intensely relevant the way novels can be.
Transmetropolitan volume 1, I'm not going to buy further volumes, and now that I think about it, the comic is extremely overrated.
I bought Punk Rock Jesus because I was just getting into comics and I thought, I should get this new completed graphic novel story, it's got good reviews, let me see what a "good" comic is like. It wasn't that good. It's not that it's bad, it's just slight. Kinda hollow.
None of these comics are about anything really relevant or meaningful. They don't have the insight the way some of these nonfiction journalist books I have are. Most of them just swallow mainstream media bullshit, and still think they're somehow seeing through the bullshit maaaaaan.
Comics could be so much better. But again, what do the /co/ucks want? They want their stupid silly little insignificant childish retarded infantalized moronic boring unoriginal wallpaper paste cape comics to be free of social justice. Yeah aim high there, cucks. That's why social justice took over your stupid hobby in the first place, you were too stupid to want anything better.
0ebe7d No.2344
>>2341
I find it funny that you give a massive spiel about having better taste then you immediately follow up by telling everyone you play Fallout 4.
Why are you showing off about playing the capeshit of video games? Just because you're playing edgy 90's capeshit, doesn't make you that much better than the plebs who play SJW capeshit.
143a6e No.2346
>>2344
sheddy webcomics confirmed for frauds
751845 No.2347
>>2344
I like it when someone disagrees with us and within the next sentence loudly displays that they don't know what they're talking about. Just further proves us right objectively. 8)
143a6e No.2348
>>2347
Not that anon but what is the difference then?
For when it comes to comics and cartoons you flat out refuse to buy into popular shit and the more dull generic kind of stuff with a big highground of believing you instinctually know they're going to be bad and shitty, for the most part you're correct but then when it comes to this shit you flip the tables. I mean I could already tell from the podcasts you were buying into the Fallout 4 hype like it's going to be a CRAAZY game that sets the table with this cool ass shit and makes everything else look like shit especially mgs5 man that game sucked Fallout 4 will be better right? Well Fallout 4 is here and it's just not true, the game is mediocre like all bethesda games. It just seems odd that you have massive standards for first off, even reading a comic and second off saying that it's objectively good and then turning around and not holding the same standards for these videogames that clearly suffer from similar issues.
It's just inconsistant is all.
094d42 No.2351
>>2347
You realize how you actually have to show that Fallout 4 isn't shallow trash for that argument to work right, you can't just act like a feminist and say "I'm right because I'm right".
751845 No.2357
we got some real butt ass hurt bitches net.stalking us for our truth telling.
that tends to happen to us on a regular basis. we drive some little faggots insane with rage, so that they become obsessed with following us around and screaming at us (over the internet).
751845 No.2360
>>2351
In order to pretend you have an argument to refute, you first have to make an argument.
You haven't done that yet. Which, in perfect irony that we master, makes you the equivalent to a feminist. It's sort of like when Tenk (you know, that one weeb who was in love with us?) went around saying that we were like SJWs because we made fun of him. The person who is wrong accuses the person who is right of behaving in the manner that the wrong person was behaving in. It's simple psychology. That's what makes us masters of the internet. We understand your behavior before YOU do. 8)
094d42 No.2363
>>2360
If you're the sort of person who can play Fallout 4 and not notice how shit it is, then you are the same as the kind of person who still reads capeshit well into adulthood and doesn't realize why it's shit. :^)
751845 No.2366
>>2363
The false premise collapses and reveals the bitter wounded fag beneath.
Yeah, we won this one again. 8)
336fed No.2367
I'm Mod 1 and I suck cock.
a4575b No.2369
>>2360
See, this is your problem. You showed up a bunch of retards on the short bus of the internet, Tumblr, and now you call yourselves geniuses.
I'm not going to comment on anyone's taste in media, but egotism isn't a virtue, especially considering you have yet to challenge anyone who isn't a raving lunatic.
751845 No.2373
>>2369
Not our fault, not our problem.
e24771 No.2379
>>2366
See kids, this is what happens when you only argue with the biggest morons on the planet tumblr and expect everyone else to argue the same way. Turns out spending too much time among tumblr really did melt your brain. :^)
2c7f11 No.2380
Not the same anon, SWC can like or dislike whatever the fuck they want but since everyone else is pissing on about it. Played a couple of hours of it at a friends house.
Couldn't have been less interested in continuing.
Faggot dialogue wheel, faggot "muh dead wife, muh stolen son" motivation, faggot generic voice acted player character, faggot cinematic perspective cutscenes to make everything look even more like a Bioware game.
Game also looks like a mod from 2010.
Most fun I had was making my guy's wife look like Red Skull by giving her every scar and every blemish available. After that the game started and the shitty voice acting and shitty writing made it seem like this guy was quite nonchalant about waking up one morning in front of the mirror and being widowed in a post apocalyptic wasteland with a kidnapped son 2 hours later.
Played F3 & NV for an embarrassingly long time but couldn't be interested in this long enough to get the fucking power armour which I understand happens pretty early on.
0e1f88 No.2381
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Best Fallout 4 review. Pro click shit here nigga
0e1f88 No.2382
Best Fallout 4 review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyVQ9KaPxRI
Fix your shit, Hotwheels
9aa70e No.2383
>>2382
>>2381
Holy shit it gets even worse.
751845 No.2386
"I was promised *featured that no one cares about* and didn't get it, this is the WORS GAME EVAR!!"
- every "criticism" of fallout 4 in a nutshell
a03e79 No.2387
>>2386
oh come on you cant even call this a troll niga
751845 No.2389
>>2387
so the truth has finally graduated from "lol u jus a troll" to "we can't even call this a troll."
maybe in another 20 years, you will finally be where I am at now.
751845 No.2399
Every time we trash superhero comics, there's always the one guy who has a sperg attack because his feelings were hurt. Apparently he's obsessed with us to the point of bringing us up constantly on both the 4chan and 8chan /co/, I only know about this from second hand, "someone's always talking about you on /co/" people tell me, and I wouldn't know because I have gone to /co/ once every 1 to 2 months now tops, and the board is chock full of people who's egos are attached to silly childish cape comics with names like "[noun] man" or [something] woman" because that's how they named superheroes in the 1930s. They attempt to unleash their impotent rage on us, usually involving a boatload of really obvious projection, they essentially talk about themselves and reveal themselves as an open book when they try to trash anyone.
I suspect that it's the same one person, maybe two (though I don't care enough to try to dig into this really), because they're displaying the lowest of the low of social strata behavior, they're letting our opinions dig so deep under their skin that they can't forget about us. They come to threads that are not about any related topic and change it to whatever they want because they wish the world revolved around them. It's probably one of those love/hate things where they wish they were us but they tell everyone how much they hate us. We have a quick laugh about this guy and forget about him a minute later. We've seen this behavior before, multiple times. It never ends well for the person in question, through their own design, the same way that a feminist will never land a successful job with her gender studies degree.
Ultimately, they're taking threads about actual content, and trying to change them into all about them. Self obsessed people like that have a legitimate mental illness. Mentally ill people should be exterminated in real life, and do not deserve the privilege of engaging in our discussions. 8)
6becd4 No.2400
>>2343
I'm curious, why do you keep comparing comics to movies/novels?
094d42 No.2401
>>2399
>It was only one person I swear on me mum
>I'm a target of a hate campaign by a neckbeard who like cape comics
Jesus Christ, just admit you have shit taste already. It's okay, everyone has their guilty pleasures. Michael Bay and Marvel is popular for a reason.
Doesn't make Fallout 4 a good game though.
0e1f88 No.2402
>>2400
Because movies and novels are the best form of entertainment there is and comics keep coming up short.
9aa70e No.2405
>>2386
Funny cuz every critique of Fallout 4 I've seen has a full explanation of why they don't like it and why they think it's a rushed out piece of shit.
Everyone praising it comes off as "hur durr you jus hate fun!!"
Features nobody cares about? Clearly they do you fucking goons.
I watched you fags cry about tumbling bullets in MGS3 for a full day bringing it up time & time again for months afterwards only to completely change your tune when Logicd came out and said "yeah tumbling bullets? Who gives a fuck?"
Now you're saying different id'd anons in this thread disagreeing with you are all sock puppets?
How fucked UP you are!
751845 No.2409
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After 20 years we know from deeply ingrained experience that explaining the truth to people who are too angry to understand it is beneath us and a waste of our precious time. We're out creating trends and flying through the sky swallowing all the red sunglasses on our own, as the rest of you are laying in the alley eating that trash can. 8)
Here's a video of all of you (costarring our avatars laughing derisively at your expense). Especially pertinent because all of you had the same opinion about Iron Man 3, the best Iron Man movie in the series and one of the best Marvel movies ever made, specifically because they got rid of that retarded Mandarin shit. And everyone who's mad at us in this thread over our superior tastes? They were also angry because the movie got rid of that retarded Mandarin shit.
7e15e6 No.2412
>>2409
So you're still holding onto the idea that criticism of Fallout 4 stems only from it being different?
Reminds me of when people were defending Mass Effect 3 saying its detractors were just upset about it having a sad ending.
Didn't care that the mandarin didn't have super rings or whatever it is, never read the comics so didn't care. I though that was shit because he was introduced as an intimidating villain then for the sake of a joke he turns out to be a faggoty actor and the real villain is yet another billionaire industrialist with a grudge against Stark.
Also because Shane Black was probably on too short of a leash from Marvel to make any sort of decent wind down from the whole alien invasion thing from Avengers so we got a story of no consequence designed to sell as much merchandise of the iron legion as possible.
a03e79 No.2413
>>2409
hey man dont worry, we're on YOUR side
you can admit you just dont want to debate, it's fine, we like you anyway ;)
751845 No.2433
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>>2413
>go to thread about comics reviews
>whine about unrelated video game out of nowhere
>get fucking destroyed brutally in front of everyone and rightfully ignored for having fake opinions
>whine harder pretending it was an attempt to debate the whole time
bd5601 No.2436
>>2433
hey man i told you dont worry your little head
no need to hurt yourself ;)
(Mentally ill behavior is not permitted on our board, seek treatment and return when you are on proper meds. Also for making it all about you when other people are posting real content.) b52bc3 No.2557
751845 No.2566
I got a comic called "Spread" I think for free. I read comic books so infrequently that I'll always give a read through on a comic I get, these days. I was slightly interested as well, the cover promised some sort of post apocalypse monster fighting.
Instead I got a bucket full of the worst cliches in comics. A gang of raiders kills a woman and steals her baby. The monsters are just ripped off of The Thing, made a little too obvious by the winter setting. The stolen baby is named Hope (that's like the entire cliche cake AND the cherry on top right there). The main hero is nicknamed "No" because he's a man of few words and keeps saying "no," almost randomly. When you first read it there's no context and you might think, "did they just call someone No? Or is it N.O.? Either way, it's the shittiest name ever." This is what happens when the average modern American comic book writer tries to be clever and quirky and "original." They get all postmodern like this. Probably a result of college education, which, if this year has confirmed anything, makes people more stupid than if they had just stayed home.
So right off the bat, the comic announces itself as just a ripoff of a popular movie from 30 years ago. That's comics today. They won't even change the setting, it's just The Thing, and here's a couple boring characters the writer made up. The comic is narrated by the child in the future, so you know they won't come to harm. The cliche cherry ON TOP of the previous cliche cherry is that the very last page has an obviously evil Christian who is immediately spoiled as being the villain, and you can see the entire story laid out from there, where the evil Christian sees the baby as a spawn of Satan.
The "creepy mutant post apocalypse" thing made me think of Lisa. In Lisa, it's got a lot of dark weird humor, but also a lot of horror, and moral anguish and torture, ending with lingering existential horror and a smash cut to nothingness. And I thought wow, if this comic were even half as effective as the game Lisa, this comic would've been worth reading. But it's not. You know the medium is in trouble when even little cheap ass indie video games have better stories and writing than comic books.
I could've tolerated all that, a 2 out of 5 for me, if it wasn't for one thing. In the middle of the book, "No" (god fucking damn I'm looking forward to never writing about this shit comic anymore) corners the bandits who have the baby. The evil bandits have bows, arrows, and one even has a full on machine gun, all pointed at No. I said to myself, "if these motherfuckers all miss, especially with a machine gun, and this No faggot kills them with his two small hand axes, I'm done with this comic." Sure enough, the "good" forces of small hand axe melee weapons triumphs over the evil forces of firearms, telegraphing the childish leftist view that all firearms are evil and therefore easily defeated by melee attacks. That's what made this comic a 1 out of 5. I don't have high standards for comics, and I try to never give a comic a 1. I wouldn't have to, if comics could even meet me halfway. Even the most mediocre average comic I'd give a 3 or a 4 just for not doing obviously stupid shit like this. But they just won't.
751845 No.2567
>>2566
Another thing that irritates me: the way comics like this always try to force a lingo into their supposed IP universe. The monster infestation is called "the spread." The spread monsters that run are called "runners." The guy named "No." The baby named "Hope." Way too obvious, too simple, too stupid, but again, I could forgive all that if it was tongue in cheek or sardonic, but it's just bland. It's barely 5 minutes of story. You can sum up the entire issue in one sentence. A guy finds a dying woman whose baby was kidnapped by bandits, so he rescues the baby who turns out to be the cure for the post apocalypse monster disease.
751845 No.2569
As a followup counterpoint, I also had purchased Eltingville Club #1, Fight Club 2 #1, and The Goon #1. They were half off the other day (I think they still might be) and I felt curious, and also didn't feel like going and pirating each individual issue (the site I get pirate comics from requires a 20 minute wait for the download to start).
The Goon I had heard good things about. #1 was pretty decent, it had a sense of humor, excellent art, and a sort of 90s era humor to it. It's not really to my taste, so I'm not going to keep reading it, but at the very least it's not a comic I resented reading or found annoying. This is what I mean when I say a comic has to at least meet me half way. I gave it a 4 out of 5 on comixology's user rating thing.
The Eltingville Club I actually had less anticipation for, but a couple pages in and I'm already drawn in. A comic book nerd stands in the rain yelling at his local comic book shop to hurry up and open. The shutter slides open and it's a fat old guy in his boxers running the shop, tells the kid to stand on some mylar bags so he doesn't get the floor all wet, and looks in the t-shirt overstock box to change his shirt out. The nerd is a medium, and most of the shirts are large and then 10 sizes beyond that. After the nerd gets the new shirt, the owner charges him for the shirt and all the bags. It's not even that this is funny, it's that it's so distinct and vivid. Just reading this gives you that impression of exactly what it would be like being a comic book nerd trying to beat the rush in one of the shittiest looking comic book stores ever, the whole culture of the books and the stores laid right out in just a couple of pages, just as the introduction.
Fight Club 2 #1 I haven't read yet, maybe I'll get to that. I read the original book so I have an idea of where the comic book will continue. I have to admit, I don't have high hopes. I'm not expecting to hate it, I'm just expecting to be puzzled.
751845 No.2570
Never mind that about Fight Club 2, it's already pretty good.
I also got the beginning of that Eltingville Club comic wrong, he wasn't waiting for the store to open, the nerd was there to start his new job there. Which he had too much pride for. The whole comic is pretty much a non stop slam on comic book nerds, clearly told from the inside, and still very current and up to the minute, slathered with almost an unnecessary amount of geek references. Pretty good also.
I might actually keep up with both of these. Also, both comics had 10 times more story in nearly the same amount of pages as Spread. Eltingville Club #1 and Fight Club 2 #1 would need more than one paragraph to sum up.
Only downside of Fight Club 2 is that the art is by Cameron Stewart, the SJW cuck. But eh, the art itself isn't bad. Just the cuck drawing it. It doesn't get in the way of the story at least. I'll still buy #2 and #3 right now and read them, and if I like them I'll buy the rest, especially while they're still only $1 each.
eda659 No.2571
>>2567
You know what story did lame nicknames well? The Matrix. It worked because the characters were either former hackers or part of a military crew. It makes sense Neo would think of himself as Neo and not Thomas Anderson. It makes sense that Tank and Dozer would have names like that.
"Hope" was the name of the future mutant baby who was supposed to save the mutant gene or something in X-Men a few years back. The "baby in trouble, but she's narrating it from the future so you know she turns out fine" angle was worked in Saga.
One of the many problems with comics? The writers only read pop-culture books and watch pop-culture films. The rest of the time they're just reading more shitty comics. So when it comes time to write their own, what do they draw inspiration from? The few truly good films/books they've experienced and the cliches of every comic they've read. You can't write a good story if you haven't read enough good stories.
9421e3 No.2574
>>2566
Given the cover, and the setup, it looks like it's also going to the well for Lone Wolf and Cub. 100% creatively bankrupt.
>Eltingville Club
The second issue gets a little preachy, although I am still interested to see where it goes.
>Fight Club 2
Ok, but unnecessary. Not a lot of hope for Palahniuk without serious editing/rewriting. Guessing this will meet somewhere between the anti-climax of the book, and the Hollywood ending of the film.
751845 No.2578
>>2574
After reading the rest of the issues, it is between those in a way, but then also neither and both. The events of the end of the movie didn't happen, but yet somehow the movie itself did happen, and there's a lot of 4th wall breaking moments. There's a scene where Marla investigates a handful of clubs that sprang up based on Fight Club in real life, though they involve things like "knit club" or "write club" where Chuck himself appears and attempts to narrate what Marla will do when she enters, and then she doesn't do it, which usually is a comic book formula destined to fail but I found it kind of funny and charming in this specific instance.
9aa70e No.2617
I might download the fight club comic at some point.
Remembered that some faggot involved was an SJW which is one reason I wasn't going to touch it.
If it follows on from the book how do they approach the whole part about him having previously bitten off his tongue?
751845 No.3573
My original post about The Boys was pretty slapdash, let me try to sum it up more concisely:
Garth Ennis gets a lot of traction out of condemning America's response to terrorism, yet when it comes to terrorism itself, Garth is suspiciously silent.
751845 No.3973
>>3967
Tenk admitted to me that this review triggered him so bad that he started crying a little. Yes it's true, you can even go ask him yourself repeatedly on his tumblr's ask box.
32b3b3 No.3974
>>3967
Damn SWC's reviews were rad. I'm hiring you guys to write for me if I ever get rich
751845 No.3985
>>3974
Wouldn't be a problem if the rest of the world jumped on the team for the big win in time.
But the rest of the world is always slow on the uptake on things that are important. Anime fans are a pretty good example of that: they would rather watch anime than something that is objectively superior.
514df4 No.4175
>>2754
hhaha, the worst of it is that my country is already having immigration from bolivians/amerindians, and they've been wrecking our shit, while our oh-so-progressive system pampers them and gives them free healthcare and money and education. They've been giving us economic and social problems.
But funnier thing is, that our Constitution and laws were geared more for european immigration, which is actually what made our country not be 100% shit in mid-late 19th century