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Can any other Emacs users comment on this... I started using emacs around this summer because I started studying Scheme a little. Now I'm using it full time especially after discovering org mode.

Lately I've been having pain in my left hand thumb and pinky. No so much in my right hand. Any one else have RSI type problem with emacs?

I think I'll switch back to vim for a while and see if it clears up. yes i know about evil. I just want to see what and how much I'll miss

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that was me until I learned Dvorak.

Easiest way to learn Dvorak was to do typing exercises according to a guide online. The most natural way to do those exercises was to type properly. Before that I had a completely ad-hoc style, 100+WPM but born of just needing to type fast in online games kids these days with their always-on mics

Dvorak sucks but it cured me of the painful way I used to type.

Just, uh, be prepared to have your qwerty muscle memory physically overwritten. Maybe get some qwerty typing exercises prepared, for after you're comfortable with dvorak.



Easiest way to learn Dvorak is to not learn Dvorak.



What about evil mode?


> meme distributions

what? >>1006351


For a moment, I read "Emacs and RSSI" and thought that Emacs now also incorporates a WLAN client.


Did someone try next browser (web kit gtk+)? https://github.com/atlas-engineer/next

It seems to be functional, but very early in development.


not entirely unreasonable


itt: NEW PARADIGM, bloatware, firefox, linux, botnet, open source community, free software foundation, NEW PARADIGM

list of contents: 1. firefox. 2. linux 3. open source community & NEW PARADIGM

1. firefox is millions of code

>implying you can audit millions of code

>implying anyone did audit it

>implying it would be hard to put some backdoors there unnoticed

>implying firefox and torbrowser (or any browser) is safe

>implying you need millions of code just to display some text with formatting and images, with tiny real-time interaction (ajax etc)

next generation browser should be small and modular. all additional things (javascript, css, layout engine, history) should be modules/components

2. linux is millions of code

>implying it can be audited

>implying it's safe and non-backdoored

>implying you need millions of code for operating system that is just a framework for other software to run

why older operating systems like DOS were simple and small, yet worked?

why isn't linux kernel just small core OS that controls hardware and allows other subsystems on top of it? so you could add GUI subsystem, etc

why templeOS could be small but strong and advanced? because it wasn't made by open source niggers, it was made by WHITE supremacist, racist, by GOD. and he didn't give a shit about code of nigger conduct, he gave a shit about what's important.

why even 20 year old proprietary OS like windows2000 or windows95 is so superior in everyday activities than linux shit? why proprietary music player foobar2000 (made by one person in free time) is so superior to any linux shit player developed by 1000 people?

3. open source community (open source niggers), free software, those philosophies just don't work. they worked on linux and firefox for decades and the result is a piece of shit, piece of nigger dPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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I feel bad for getting involved in this.

The way to manage millions of lines of code is to:

a) refactor

b) create libraries that can be individually audited

c) accept limitations and develop automated tools for fuzzing and auditing that exceed human limitations

linux is millions of lines of code, but you don't need every fucking module or every fucking branch to build it, for your platform your only looking at a much more managable amount of code and drivers, which you can put on your own tree and audit to your heart's content

3. you clearly have schizophrenia. I don't know which lolcow you are but I'm sure someone will figure it out over the course of this thread.



if you’re the colorforth guy, can you supply me with any OS made with this stuff? i know moore learned under mccarthy, so maybe a forth + lisp machine is only natural


>3. open source community (open source niggers), free software, those philosophies just don't work. they worked on linux and firefox for decades and the result is a piece of shit, piece of nigger dog shit.

it works great on openbsd



>Reading material:


Interesting read, thank you.


>linux is millions of lines of code, but you don't need every fucking module or every fucking branch to build it, for your platform your only looking at a much more managable amount of code and drivers,

I wonder whether there's an easy way to measure how many lines of code are in a kernel compiled with specific options. I suspect in my case it's more along the lines of tens or hundreds of thousands of lines of code, rather than millions. I compile a custom kernel, and I remove support for tons of stuff I don't use, like most of the filesystems, network drivers I don't use, etc. On my desktop, I don't use a wireless card of any kind, so I got rid of mac80211 support and all drivers for PCI and USB wireless cards. That's probably tens of thousands of lines of code right there.

>which you can put on your own tree and audit to your heart's content

One could theoretically do that, yeah. But most people on /tech/ can't audit shit. I can't.



>implying you need millions of code just to display some text with formatting and images, with tiny real-time interaction (ajax etc)

>next generation browser should be small and modular. all additional things (javascript, css, layout engine, history) should be modules/components

Here's the problem though - HTML/CSS is cruft upon cruft, with shit being added to it with every standard. Are there any alternatives at declaring simple web layouts that you describe? Right now, it's just flexible boxes inside flexible boxes. If something like that exists, it's just a matter of bolting a good API on it for realizing AJAX and whatever other things one might need. I think modularity is the key to browsers. Prototyping a minimal program that is responsible for gluing everything together, where you could swap out a JS/layout engine would be a huge effort already.

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>tfw russian hackers are behind this




The one good thing to come out of the hack.


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>100% of donations received go towards funding diversity programs.



Who are you trying to fool

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wiby.me is full of html only websites and interesting things I haven't seen from google.

duckduckgo is privacy focused and doesn't try to curate results according to your search history. But its still not quite as good as google for finding things.

Is there any search engine you can unironically use as a substitute to google or are we pretty much stuck with them forever?

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>riffing off the same motherfucker who wrote 'The Lorax'.

Really, nigger?



>Hätt aber noch ne Frage:


>Die Seite benutzt ja standardmäßig GET. Wird das dann nicht vom ISP mit der Vorratsdatenspeicherung geloggt?

Nö, nicht mehr unter https. Die komplette Anfrage (mit Ausnahme der Domain) wird verschlüsselt übertragen. Das ist bei allen Webseiten so, die https verwenden.

Würde man die Suchparameter per POST senden, würde man die Daten nur innerhalb des verschlüsselten Blocks verschieben. Allerdings kann dein Browser POST-Requests nicht so gut cachen. In Wirklichkeit ist das ganze noch ein wenig komplizierter, aber das reicht erstmal.

Wenn du noch mehr Fragen hast, wende dich gerne an (office ät suma-ev Punkt de) . Ich hab nämlich eigentlich noch bis nächste Woche Urlaub ;)



>Wenn du noch mehr Fragen hast

Nein. Das war alles. Danke.


ITT: I can't program my web crawler


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ITT: They cant even link hundreds of computers to index the web for themselves


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In short, demos are computer programs showing the amazing capabilities of a given platform in an entertaining way, sort of like a music video, but instead of rendering some animation offline it's real time. Of course modern computers are so powerful it's hard for just few people to make some new thing on pc that was never done before graphics wise, so to make things interesting people are restricting themselfs to small executable sizes like 64 or 4kb, sometimes even just 256 bytes.

I'm personally way more interested in the demoscene for retro computers, Amiga and C64 in particular. Some of you might remember me making such threads before from time to time where I was just posting clips from the demos I liked. Well... I finally started coding on C64 this year and managed to release 3 productions, one even at the largest C64 party in Holland.

For me nothing can best the fun I get from programming demos on the C64. The platform has lots of weird quirks and limitations that really make you think different about creating your desired effects. That's true for most of the retro plarforms, where you didn't have enough ram and fast cpu to just calculate everything, instead you are playing with the raster beam to bend the graphics and using the weird bugs of the chips to produce some unusual results, but I feel like the C64 has the most of unintentional features of the old computers and it also has an awesome soundchip.

Well, here's my crap, feel free download and run in emulator or look up the names on YouTube for videos. If you have a C64 and are able to run it on real HW that's even better. It's PAL only.

I can explain some of the C64 trickery if people are interested




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op here. In terms of consoles you are correct, the modern demos however use the gpu of course, it's all directx or opengl. There's few that still do software rendering. Most popular and regarded modern PC demos are the 64kb and smaller, since that's some cut and clear limitation, quite severe too I think. With these kinds of prods you are allowed to dynamically link with directx dlls or anything that is installed by default on a system (99% of pc demos are windoze)

The demoscene is alive, especially pc, I'm sure there's way more pc sceners today than on C64. Month ago I was at x2018, exclusively C64 party and there was more than 400 people



Do you mean that it's entirely impossible to do or that it's impossible to do as long as we don't have the GPU instructions?


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The last time I was this impressed was when I discovered modern LineRider tracks.

This is beautiful.



If you have the spec you write a driver and then something like directx or opengl thar uses that uses that driver. You would end up with similar results to what we have now.


My group is working on a ps1 demo for revision 2019


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What's it like knowing that the Unix philosophy is dead?

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I wish.


Plan9 is literally someone looking at how shit >>1006127 is and making the least competent, least significant revision upon it, specifically this line is transformed:

>Functions should take state as input and change state as output, they should return nothing of use.

<Functions should take state in the form of a file as input, and change state in the form of a file as output, they should return nothing of use.

but what it's trying to fix is Unix's hatred of structured data and functions not taking arguments and returning results by dumping a string into a file. Imagine the right solution, programs being functions which map functions to a common data structure and print this information using the structural data (either a arbitrary dimension array, or a arbitrary complexity tree). You wouldn't have to have a parser of string input in every program, you could easily call these functions within your functions removing the need for a shell like language, if you don't have a shell language but rather a REPL you can get debug information out of these functions in the standard manner, by passing the structure of the data you remove the need to have more than one specialised procedures for the purpose of outputting human readable data (a good example is ls rather than find). Now imagine that code is data, code can be serialised and sent over the wire, code can be saved and stored for later, etc, etc. Doesn't clean drinking water sound nice anon?


Feels good man. Unix isn't important, users who have freedom is more important. To that end, we have GNU.


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TFW CoC fear prevents you all from seeing that redoxos is the future of the Unix philosophy


Defining the unix philosophy is a poor joke, and 'unix philosophy' is a buzzphrase

AT&T unix was a hack job, just like most corporate kludges.

BSDs were designed with significantly less organisation and yet performed better.

All following POSIX copies ejected AT&T style systems and began copying BSD where they could, save for extremely long term installations.

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spotted the tranny



> Also useful for bypassing fullpage-redirect cookie/privacy pages and some "disable your adblocker to continue" interstitials. Sites bend over backwards to suck Google's cock, may as well put on a Google mask and take advantage of that

That's a really handy thing, thank you. Now to see if there is anything that doesn't work.


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>Social media


Social media will never die for as long as there's normies, females and internet on this planet.



And don't forget faggots, plenty of faggots


this website (redchanit) is the best popular social media site

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basic search functions don t work anymore

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Even that old Mossad agent George Webb talks about it, showing (((they))) are trying to get ahead of the game. Sharding is real, but I love you all, even my special shills who have been assigned to me.


DuckDuckGo -> Amazon Web Services -> CIA

>We don't track you

But Amazon and the CIA do :^)




And of course, (((Gabriel Weinberg)))


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I noticed this the other day too. Almost a black and white difference one day to the next where my results are completely off.



If you're on mobile the system doesn't care, they still try to profile the agglomeration of mobile users. If you're not logged in to Google you will just get some generic profile for your area.

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What an SDR? .t Wikibedia

Software-defined radio (SDR) is a radio communication system where components that have been traditionally implemented in hardware (e.g. mixers, filters, amplifiers, modulators/demodulators, detectors, etc.) are instead implemented by means of software on a personal computer or embedded system. While the concept of SDR is not new, the rapidly evolving capabilities of digital electronics render practical many processes which were once only theoretically possible.

Helpful links:





For those that share our interest please feel free to join our mumble server @ Mumble://

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I've used sdrtrunk to grab some interesting security business and country jail transports. AFSK repeater advertising where I got my license. Miscellaneous medical pagers. I'm mostly interested in the weather satellite stuff though.


SDR is cool but ultimately it's just another radio. I'm a ham and my favorite HF rig is my KX3, it's partly an SDR and partly an analog radio, a hybrid.


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I just love SDR there are so many applications for existing technologies out of one device. I'm looking for a cool place to start. Any suggestions??



Cheap ass RTL-SDR with a downconverter for HF and a piece of wire is all it takes.



TempestSDR lets you see what's on people's screens, even through walls.

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lets try to get this shit OS thread spam under control.



>illumos is a fully open community project to develop a reliable and scalable operating system. It began as a fork_of the former OpenSolaris_operating system. Our goal is to foster open development of technologies for the 21st century while building on a twenty-year heritage, but free from the oversight of a single corporate entity and the resulting challenges thereof. While our code base has a long history and many engineering traditions attached to it, our development processes are being reinvented in an attempt to remove barriers while maintaining consistently high code quality.

Features include "LX Branded Zones" to run linux code with near zero overhead in a secure isolated container. Complete ZFS support. Dtrace which is industry standard if you're into that type of thing.



>The OpenBSD project produces a freely available, multi-platform 4.4BSD-based UNIX-like operating system. Our goals place emphasis on correctness, security, standardization, and portability.

Features include "ports" which has most of the neccessary linux applications you'd use. Simple bullet proof applications. Amazing man pages. Batteries included OS, just install and go.


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>you can actually use linux without systemd

You would need Gentoo for that. Without source compilation, many things like Firefox, Chromium, LibreOffice depend on the systemd and dbus cancer. Did you know that the nvidia drivers only use dbus to communicate with a gaming streaming service that is inexistent on the GUI? You can remove that dependency.



Slackware and Devuan don't have systemd init, just some library to make Firefox and other lame software shut up. They did that also in OpenBSD for their Gnome port. Unfortunately they don't care about d-bus, so it runs anytime I use Firefox, but I don't feel like compiling big stuff like that on my laptop.



can you view pdfs and images in the frame buffer?



Haven't tried PDF yet, but it should work. See the part about fbgs here:


fbi is the image viewer for framebuffer, kind of the equivalent of what zgv did for svgalib. In priciple you can make your own image viewer too, or cbr/cbz reader, or whatever you want with SDL.


Anyone know how to make an ISO to boot multiple OSes? I want to try some OS at multiple machines on a usb drive. I'm think of switching over from Linux. I am willing to learn the programs needed for the command line. I just need a few resources on multi-booting. Any links or websites on this topic?

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Legit rust thread, what are its pros and cons?

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Panicking is done on an unhandled error. As much as I dislike Rust, I have to say the way it handles "exceptions" is just perfect.



Literally all you retards have to do is fork it and use it without a CoC and develop a separate language that isn't influenced by CoC

It's a good language right now. If you're worried that CoC will poison it, fork it right now and CoC can't ruin your fork.



Community doesn't matter if you're just using the language rather than participating in its development. Code doesn't care about your politics.



>it doesn't matter if other people are insane :)

this is an expression of hope, not of experience. In actual experience, insane people cause problems you don't expect, and very similar expressions of hope were made as communities were poisoned. Well the SanFran user group might be out but the cons are OK; well the cons are out but IRC is OK; well everything is out but at least I can use it; well trusting the official package manager is out but at least I can deploy binaries; well using the official binaries is out but at least I can still fork the code and remove the "anti-offensive-variable-names" shit; well ... but

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Is there somewhere some sort of comprehensive list of all the anti-competitive, anti-consumer, and just straight up illegal or otherwise evil shit this company had done over the decades? And if not, could we make one?

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“Embrace, Extend, Extinguish”



Right, but rather than looking at some bloggers opinion, you ought to do your own research. You say you made up your mind, but you seem to know little proof. Perhaps you made an uniformed decision? When so many people hate something, it's hard to not get caught up in that anon.

If you have such a strong opinion that Microsoft is evil (a serious indictment), should you also know reasons to believe this is true other than an ambiguous "muh botnet".


RUMOR: M$ to use someone else's botnet product in order to become the shitty Edge browser's replacement as Wangblows 10's default browser

>M$ extinguishing IE by building an all-new web browser of their own, belatedly "porting" it to mobile platforms, and then the Wangblows 10 version being extinguished "due to user complaints"? Wew.




Well for one their phony "open" standards with their Office file formats are deliberately anti-competitive against other office-type software. The feeling of entrapment with every Office suite with their shitty fucking ribbon interface since 2007 made me mad enough to finally switch permanently to LibreOffice several years back.


I like to approach Microsoft from the standpoint of trying to live a Microsoft-free life. What are all the obstacles they put in place to try and cage their users in? Every time I have to save a document in a not-actually-open-but-hidden-and-obfuscated modern Office format to send to someone else there is always something that ends up fucked up about it.

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This is a complete unicode test page


If you can't render all the characters on this page, then your distro and/or browser has failed at fonts and should be disregarded.

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I've got a relatively new ryzen processor, and this lags the fuck out of my computer. 620KB of text shouldn't do that, why is unicode so garbage?



>A font should be a set of 2-color glyphs. Adding thinsg like "large red circle" into the definition is outside the scope of what a font should be.

You're 100% right with that. However, it has less to do with Unicode and more with retards who implement emoji-font support into operating systems.


>But this arbitrary set of six flowers is completely useless.

It is.


>620KB of text shouldn't do that, why is unicode so garbage?

It's because of all the color shit and the wall of chink symbols.

And maybe because HTML get's slower rendering inline stuff the farther you go down because it need the width of all characters above.




And the fact that they change emojis symbols without warning makes it even more fucking useless.



>han characters

meh, slow input but faster reading

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A literal tub of shit. It’s definitely a step up from Windows 10.


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this has actually been done with vaccines. they make women infertile.




At a Japanese hostel I was super fucking impressed with how they made double-use of the water used to fill the tank. Once you shit, you turned around and a faucet located above the tank automatically turned on, and you used that water to wash your hands. Not only does that save water, it adds soap to the tank, which will clean the fucking toilet the next time it flushes.

How the fuck that has not caught on is beyond me, but holy fuck I want one.



pajeet version: faucet is blow the tank



2000 is generally regarded as the best ever version, the exact tipping point between NT getting more compatible and XP becoming too bloated.



That sounds fucking useful.

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Haiku OS

Is this the future now that (((they))) have subverted linux?

Any anons have experience with it?

Should I prepare to make the jump?

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I am filled with confusion and directionless rage.



That link..

<Is PonyOS a Linux distribution?

<No! PonyOS uses its own kernel, built from scratch.

Later on in the footer..

<PonyOS is based on ToaruOS,

So it's just a re-skin of someone else's OS?



Ah. Never mind. It's made by the same person as the other OS.


Haiku kernel kept crashing on my t40 thinkpad. No idea why. It didn't feel very responsive either, but overall I still liked it. So far the only OS that can really function with modern stuff that has worked well on my t40 is XP. I suppose 2000 would work as well. Every linux distro I tried was horribly unresponsive.

I finally decided to use i3 instead of xfce and it's a lot quicker, but when I have some more free time I'll try haiku again on a newer laptop and see how that goes.


why not kalibreOS?

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