Dell Precision edition. As usual, the old one hit 400 posts again.
>tfw your M6500 died and all you're left with is this M4300 and two Pentium era Precisions
With that being said, the T9300 runs outlandishly cool in this thing, pic in the OP was taken after I booted it up and let it sit for a few minutes.
Funny, the M6500 was a real hothead because of it's balls-to-the-wall overclocked 920XM, and even at stock clocks it ran quite hot.
E585 came in the mail. Wow, what a machine for the money! I bet the Ryzen 2500U performs pretty damn well too.
Also bought myself a CF-19 GPS module at last, all i'm missing on my '19 is a fingerprint reader but since I won't use it i'm not actively searching for one.
What are you doing here?
>old machine dies
This has never happened to me. How common is it? How can it be prevented?
You don't. Shit just randomly dies or lives on forever.
That said, Precisions with Nvidia GPUs tend to die faster than ones equipped with AMD FirePro cards. Something related to the housefire tier TDPs of Nvidia cards I guess. The FX360M in that M4300 I have in the OP also runs ridiculously hot even after copper shim modding and repasting it with GC Extreme.
And in other news, the 2200BG in my CF-M34 decided it wasn't running in a IBM system and started giving me Code 10 errors. Yay for whitelists I guess.
Old Acer, HP, and Dell likes to do that.
Some will likely unsolder itself when impure balls start corroding like most of amd+nvidia HP.
Acer + nvidia might last long but is prone to random bios failure / black screen of death.
Dell usually clogged heat sink and overheat.
Something long-lasting but old would be Toshiba.
I'm not gonna lie, I installed wangblows 7 on my T60 x1300 for older pc games and ableton live, had to enable PAE.
It plays most games from 97-07, i.e. dx9 xbox era pc titles.
I very occasionally try getting things to work in wine which usually fails being a waste of time.
I like to keep my linux laptop 100% free and quarantee everything non-free to a commited device.
How often do you clean your laptops and what procedures do you go through? My keyboard is getting greasy so now I'm thinking of how dusty the internals of my thinkpad are.
Whenever I get a laptop I usally do:
>take it apart
>repaste with GC Extreme
>wipe it with IPA
>Install whatever OS I want on it
never done anything to my x220. been using it for many years now sometimes even outside
And now my very first ThinkPad is officially on the way. Excited to get one and see what all the hype is about! I decided to grab a T400.
honest question: what's the downside to running Windows if you never connect to the internet and just use it to run old games?
They're pretty nice.
Yep, what he said. Isopropyl will clean more shit than you could see was on it in the first place.
Toothbrush to clean the fan (or buy a replacement online, just don't get shit ones from AliExpress). Compressed air can to blow out the heatsink(s). Replacement keyboard if the old one was too far gone.
WiFi card can often also be replaced with a much better (and more power efficient!) one if whitelist is removed.
What are the go-to thinkpads nowadays?
All I can find are guides from 2014~2017. Is it still the same?
What I want to do is go to college, be able to browse the web normally and not emulate Excel through Wine.
What would be a nice distro/de for a x230 nowadays?
If I'm going to use nothing but an SSD, is it ok to run on 4GB without a swap partition or should I get another 4gb stick instead?
The one I want to buy has an i5-3320M and probably hd graphics 3000.
If the whitelist is removed, what would be the best wifi card that is the most power effiecient to install that is also completely FOSS if I use linux?
>using anything other than a battered T60
I love you please keep doing what you do
The T400 finally arrived and gotta say, it is actually quite nice :) Now to install Gentoo onto it! Should be a fun evening!
What are those metal prongs supposed to do?
In my x200 I just bought they aren't there, but a dark grey fabric that caught a lot of crud over time.
UltraBase mounting points.
Assuming it's in good condition and you didn't pay much more than $20 for shipping, yes, that's a good deal.
My local computer dude says the E6440 is total shit compared to the E6430, not sure how much of that is true though.
Can confirm however that the M6700 is total shit compared to the M6500.
AFAIK there are no completely FOSS wireless cards (firmware? not sure) but Atheros cards are generally the recommended "free" ones to go for.
I have both and that's wrong. Especially since the e6440 has a 1080p IPS option. The e6430 does feel a bit more sturdy and has that modular bay thing, though.
Atheros cards that use the ath9k driver are completely free
What is the lowest-idle-power Thinkpad for under $75? X131?
Don't use isopropyl on screens. Most glossy screens and some matte screens have a violet anti-glare/moisutre coat which comes off with alcohol. Not that it's still there but don't do that on new stuff.
Use flashlight on the bottom of the fan to see if there's chunks of dust on the exit vent. I don't recommend opening them up since it kills the keyboard.
Older games work fine in wine nowadays. You need to install them in wine though, not just run the executable from a windows partition. Also there is playonlinux but that never ever works like it should.
What machine would be best suited to play games from the Xbox 360 era and earlier without costing a bomb?
Using a cheap airbrush to blow dust around is fun as hell. Really makes the fans whiz
What's a good daily driver ThickPad and is the Ultra base a meme?
Should've bought the Dell Longitude
T500 with a QuadCore modded in and a second battery instead of the DVD player.
Mostly a meme. There are no good desktop replacement laptops. When you are at your desk you should have a proper Desktop PC. Thus I don't see the value of an ultra base.
alright thanks. wont go for the ultra base thing then
Bump and attention seeking
I've heard that can do damage - fan generates voltages higher than spec (because the compressed air spins it faster than it normally goes) which can affect sensitive components.
Never seen it happen, sounds reasonable but *shrug*.
I just bought my first thinkpad. It's an X200t. I got it for quite cheap as well.
Got an A485 and it's fucking great. Thought I was the only person with a Ryzen thinkpad.
Not mine though, I bought it for a family member who needed a good laptop.
Unrelated, but holy shit Ryzen is black magic, pic related is my 2600 with a AIO cooler in a rather cool room. Even with fucked up P-States it runs ice cold.
One of the last 16:10 ThinkPads. Flash libreboot on it if you're a freetard or enjoy it as-is.
Eh. Mine runs pretty hot usually, but I can't control that low power mode thing that from linux, so I don't know if that'd help. Also, it's a laptop so cooling is finnicky.
an xbox 360 can be had for the price of an actually shitty old chinkpad on ebay
I found this little beauty browsing the KDE Products section:
Unfortunately, it went the Amazon route and forces you to make an account to buy anything...
I just ordered a T420. Its the latest model that came with the legendary 7-row keyboard layout, just before the chicklet keyboard came out. The T430 with the chicklet keyboard can apparently accept a T420 keyboard, and it can use a slightly later CPU. The T420/430 have socketed CPU so you can upgrade it.
The X220 and X230 are like the T420 and T430 respectively, except they are thinner (having slightly less IO but it's still good) and the stuff about the keyboards applies to them too. The CPU is soldered in the X series though.
The later thinkpads got thinner and lighter and the keyboard layout is not gonna give you the "real" thinkpad experience, but even their modern chicklet key switches have enough travel to receiving praise from people who come from non-thinkpad lines, especially former macbook peasants.
Forgot to mention that if you are using wine to run excel instead of just installing open office or libre office to do that then you are just a fucking brainlet.
Ask a friend to buy it.
There's a Precision M70 on eBay Kleinanziegen for €25, needs a new keyboard though. Do it?
Also went ahead and bought a new caddy for my 19 so I can fuck around with Loonix.
Seller doesn't want to ship internationally, oh well.
Oh hey, look what I just bought. a C840, and not just any C840, it's one with the UltraSharp UXGA screen!
Which basically means it's a Precision M50 without the Quadro. Let's hope the chassis or backlight isn't fucked up on this one.
I'm sorry /tech/, I had to do it. Now, what to replace Windows 10 with?
Win Me would be a good choice
Ubuntu. Easy setup. It's nice.
Have it running in my toughbook.
Anybody here set up a dock for their toughbook? I'm thinking of getting one of these things and setting up an antenna.
I need input if anyone would like to share theirs and I apologize in advance if this is not the right place to ask. So my main laptop is a T500. It's maxed with the CPU and RAM and it still performs amazingly for my needs, but I want something a little more powerful. I figure I could use my T500 for another 4 years, but I would rather upgrade now.
Ideally I want something with a 16:10 screen ratio that still has the non-chicklet keyboard. I was looking through Thinkpads and I believe the latest model would be the T410. The screen would be a downgrade in resolution but I can take that, and 8GB of RAM is still plenty for me. Is there a model I am overlooking that has what I want, be it stock or through a mod? I believe the T430 can be fitted to use the classic keyboard, but it has a 16:9 screen. Any recommendations?
M6400 Covet Edition for 170€, go for it?
Windows ME fucked me over so many times that I lost count.
I'll give it a try, last time I used Ubuntu was version 8.04 or something.
Give it a try. For me, it's one of those OS' that are so easy to use, that, coming from windows my entire life, it's actually TOO easy. Some problems like my touchscreen for example were solved by simply configuring my BIOS options, nothing else but calibrating the thing after via a download. And I was going through hell trying to find an answer on the ubuntu guide pages, for nothing. My wacom tablet it picked up without drivers, my mobile broadband it picked up after simply switching over to a different wwan card. I mean it basically chews shit up and spits it out for you without the bloat and bs windows makes you go through. Some things ARE a bit difficult to config, specifically terminal based commands, but I'm still learning. Overall, I'm highly impressed with it as an alternative to windows. Latest version is 18.10.
I've found that Ubuntu won't work on my machine. Elementary won't work either.
Some guy recommended Pop!_OS. I'm out of time for now and have to suffer Windows 10 for a little longer before I have a day to fiddle with this again.
One of my complaints with Ubuntu is the brightness and sound sliders, they just don't work for me. Most likely way to configure that, but I dunno yet. So I downloaded a program to do the brightness tweaking, the sound is simply shit as of now. Some things really are a bit harder to config, but ya know, overall, I'm happy with it. Never used Elementary, or Pop!_OS.
adding: you can however hear sound via earphones right away, which is good.
X230 coming in the mail.
Still haven't decided a DE or distro.
How much of a chore is it to avoid systemd in the current year?
I gave my main desktop up for systemd when I got my ryzen, couldn't find a reliable distro out there that had a recent kernel without systemd.
DE is more of a case of what not to use, namely GNOME 3 because it's homo. I prefer Xfce but whatever floats your boat I suppose.
I like Debian and Devuan. Always easy to get up and running, just remember to enable non-free repos if you have Intel WiFi and get your firmware.
Devuan is pretty legit, there is some fuckery here and there because of the systemd divorce if you want to use unstable or testing but it is pretty good on stable. There are a few Arch derivatives that also use OpenRC like Parabola, and it's pretty simple to migrate a Debian or Arch install to another init. Try out Devuan.
The only OS's I will use are Slackware Linux or OpenBSD. Either of those would work find on your X230.
700 series ThinkPads are a e s t h e t i c as fuck, especially with the Dock II under it.
it looks like the laptop is on a desktop computer. they used to look like that years ago and people would put them under their crt monitor
You know what's also aesthetic as fuck? Ex-NATO Dell Latitudes.
Yep, I got my C840 in the mail, it apparently came from a NATO facility and was not allowed to process classified information, judging from a red sticker on the FDD which says "NATO UNCLASSIFIED"
Yeah except nato is fucking gay.
Holy shit, so Quadro softmods are also a thing for mobile GeForce cards! I installed the GeForce4 from the C840 into the battered M50 chassis, installed Rivatuner and flipped the PCI ID switch to Quadro, and boom, it now identifies as a Quadro4 500 Go GL.
Only 32MB VRAM but still, back in 2002 a C840 would be far, far cheaper than a M50.
That's not a dock, that's a whole fucking PC it looks like.
Apparently not though.
He is mistaken, that is the Selectadock (I, II, or III)
>mfw I just got a nearly pristine 770Z for $50
Really feels good when you buy shit that used to be worth thousands of dollars for what is practically pocket change. I know it isn't functionally worth anything anymore, but it gives me this weird fuzzy feeling.
> know it isn't functionally worth anything anymore
Only to retards who think PC = Windows and run bloatware. I'm looking at the specs on ThinkWiki and it doesn't look terribly bad at all. I was using a Pentium 4 until 2016. It ran just fine except for a few things
You'd think it'd be like that but you can't just pop Debian or something on it. Tons of programs simply won't work on a Pentium II because of lack of instruction sets from this century. It's basically a glorified 7-pound typewriter now. But I will take it to class and use it unironically when I get a hard drive, just to be an autisté.
Anyone got an e585 with Linux running stable? I've put Mint 19.1 with kernel 5.0 on it, I still have to use it for a longer time to test it.
I've got an a485 (ryzen 5 2500u w/ vega) and it randomly freezes about once a day during use. There's also some graphical glitches when waking the computer up from suspend (happens on windows as well), probably related to the graphics drivers, and of course the fingerprint reader doesn't work.
Oh, also the latest TLP can't set the battery thresholds properly so you need the development git version.
And when using ALSA without pulseaudio, I can't have two different applications play things at once. I haven't tried pulseaudio yet.
Haven't tested the camera yet but mic works, also don't use WWAN, as I've inserted an SSD in that M.2 slot.
I know it's not the same laptop but it's probably similar enough in terms of hardware. Just don't bother running a kernel version older than 4.18. While some things work, Xorg definitely won't. This means a lot of livecds won't work.
What anime is that?
SauceNao says Hinato Note.
Is GPU failure on the T4x series a forgone conclusion? I really like my T42p, but I'm considering just getting rid of it before it inevitably croaks
Thank you, I'll be sure to add that to my list of distros to test on my OS installation weekend.
Enjoy your mitigations lmao
Beware of buying thinkpads over ebay or some amazon.
They can have modified firmware or even be bugged with TRAC and other invisible and independent DMA chip backdoors. Even if the seller is trustable, the time gap between these devices being shipped is all they'll ever need to implant these botwares.
So I heard your order got canceled again or was out of the time frame, well now you know.
Unless you're a enemy of the state or are involved in the CP trade, you don't have to be this paranoid. the CIAniggers aren't going after some autist's ThinkPad.
We're all a bunch of Gene Hackmans and CIAwillsmiths up in here. Literally everybody surfing image boards is an enemy of the state in the sense that we aren't obviously and completely under the sole influence of those who control mass media. Most of us aren't up to anything subversive, but we're not 100% nullified zogbots, either.
The cycle appears to be: people learn that laws and social cohesion are helpful -> these people succeed -> a bunch of subversive, sociopathic assholes (jews, minorities in general, traitors) take control.
We are in the third stage. Freedom is terrorism. Pointing out hypocrisy and illogical policy is evil. Truth is dead and crowdspeak is God. Follow the unreasonable demands of the idiotic, ever browning masses to our mutual doom and third world status or you're a bigot.
modern thinkpads have built in botnet tho. its an addon thats somewhere in the bios that breaks it if a remote server says that it should do so
>mrw I overclocked the display of my Precision M50-C840 hybrid to 170 Hz
Still has ghosting like a motherrfucker but quite impressive nonetheless.
15 sec boot time
What are you doing there, anon?
And by any chance, do you know how I can unlock a wwan card to make it run from any tower, anywhere?...
>ordered a t530
>screen was incredibly dim
>sent it in to get it repaired
>the motherboard was fucked
>cost me $35 to have it looked at
>didn't even get my thinkpad
Now what do I do?
>What are you doing there, anon?
My first attempt to libreboot my x200. Took out the wrong chip.
>And by any chance, do you know how I can unlock a wwan card to make it run from any tower, anywhere?...
Nope. x200 doesn't seem to be locked, don't know what wwan module you have. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/X220-WWAN-Locked-to-Vodafone-How-to-unlock/td-p/879123
Weird, I bought an X200 to install Libreboot as well. Which picture is the wrong chip? Also, did you get the wiring schematic on the Libreboot website? I didn't really understand it.
Both of those pictures had the wrong chip. Wiring instructions depend on what you are using to flash it. Just use your favorite search engine to find the correct one.
Cool, getting my CF-19 caddy today.
>tfw the 860 Evo 500GB is back to €90 now instead of 70 a few months earlier
Welp, all my research so far says I can't run it on a toughbook, so far anyway..
Caddy came in the mail so I installed Zorin OS
And for some reason I got a ThinkPad Intel 2200BG WLAN card working in one of my Precisions, that same card was giving me code 10 errors on my CF-M34. What the fuck Intel?
Tomorrow afternoon my x230 is getting delivered.
What distro should I go for?
Really thinking about debian but the transgender suicide thing made me a little worried about their poz
Install Windows. Microsoft employees seem well adjusted.
I like Slackware. Or OpenBSD.
The worst part about that tranny suicide thing is that the tranny was named Lucy Wayland. Wayland as in the Wayland display server protocol? What concerns me is that a computer protocol, the replacement for the X-Server that will one day be in every Linux distro, is named after a tranny. A project that he likely had no part in and was only on the Debian team because of virtue signalling. Yet, they are so pozzed, they named an important computer protocol after someone who did nothing to help create it solely because he was transgender.
It's just a coincidence they have the same name, read the rebbit thread from the OP
Nothing except depriving yourself of the chance to learn to use better software.
Faggot is here, and then there's this corner.
How do I proceed?
Already told him about it, how it makes the screen unstable and sent him pics asking how we could "sort it out".
Seller sold like 8 of them(seems to buy from a source in packs) aaaand says everything but the battery is insured, with no more than everyday use signs, so he shouldn't be a huge enough ass to tell me to fuck off.
So far I've been running disk scan to see if I should indeed buy a new one and the battery seems really great.
that usually happens if it gets dropped. i have dropped mine twice and its starting to come off but its not that bad yet
>try installing coreboot on my toughbook
>wtf am i doing
So I load the payload, run it, see the coreboot interface, realize...that's pretty much as far as I can go with my brainlet tech skills. I literally don't even know what to do next..other than..restart?
Coreboot should be reading the MBR of the disks or using a EFI like setup. Check the settings to see which is happening and switch according to whatever is on your disk.
What model is recommended if I just want long battery life, low noise/heat and will only use it for light browsing and programming probably on a minimal distro like Void?
idk about recommended but my x220 could last over 10 hours with that kind of setup
is there some kinda photograph troubleshooting tutorial out there?
If you want to be really silly, T series /w 9 cell rear + ultrabay battery.
Something like that is definitely something that should be exchanged. I've had smaller problems with ThinkPads from people who sell multiples of them at once, and they will exchange it no problem.
I'd go for the x220-240
They're not as ancient but still cheap.
Holy shit, Coreboot on a CF-31(?)? Make a tutorial please!
Also, I went to a HAM radio market and got myself a CF-VDW07 with password, and 7 Dell C-series batteries.
And boatloads of Lenovo WLAN cards, for 0,50€ each.
Actually, no, sadly.
It's just a coreboot emulation. So I went on the /tech/ IRC and asked around, they pointed me in a completely different direction to properly install it.
And I have yet to do that. It's a bit more advanced than this simulation only method.
This is the link for the simulation_
This is the advanced method (proper method?) I have yet to test_
Adding: I don't even know if it'll work for me, I'm sort of reluctant to try it. I wonder if it will brick my system somehow(?)
what are you doing here?
hidden embedded cp
I don't even know what to buy anymore.
The libreboot project only goes up to x200, and after it, they're all fucking botnet.
I seriously wonder if an x200 would be enough for programming.
Thought this thread fell off the board! Playing a bit with my M50 as we speak, really wish I could find the illusive Pentium 4-M 2.6 for it.
There hasn't been really any performance upgrades since the core 2 duo era. And even that was a moderate performance boost at most.
inb4 muh bloated performance hogging video games. Yea, all that lighting and detailed z-buffers and whatever else, takes up space, but the games aren't any better than they were when our game systems had 2k of ram.
>thinking of buying an x200 librebooted
>wish I could libreboot my toughbook but it seems...not possible
What I really want is to strip this entire unit open and replace all it's components with a laptop equivalent of a Talos II but... gotta be more realistic.
ive been trying to flash coreboot on a W530 I just got all day and haven't been able to get flashrom to recognize the bios chip at all
WHAT THE FUCK AM I DOING WRONG does someone have a schematic for doing this on W/T530 + raspberry pi 3?
Got 2 toughbooks cf-30MK3, bios passworded and cmos battery pull does nothing. Searched high and low for a trick but nothing seems to work. Would really like that vt-x enabled. Any tips?
Try "toughkit" as the BIOS pw. It works in my cf-31. All the other stuff I don't know much about.
I dunno if this will help, but read into it.
How is Gentoo gonna get rid of the intel chips backdoors? Is that even a thing?
toughkit is only for the Optional Kit Configuration menu. You're SOL with a BIOS password.
Also, I got my US Enligsh P50 keyboard in the mail, god what a difference compared to the UK keyboard I had!
What kind of carrying case do you use for your laptop? Backpack? Man purse? Tactical attache with molle webbing? Post pics of your thiccpad transportation device.
Did you hotglue her yet?
Well damn... Maybe you can just buy a new motherboard for it and install it? Or is there some BIOS software that you can install via DOS?
Anybody try me_cleaner on a toughbook?
OK anons here's my blog. I have a problem, I have like 50 Thinkpads now. I want to keep the decent condition pre-PII models, some X220s and X40s for use, and dump most (all?) of the rest except my Thinkpad 25. I have about fifteen T60s and T61s, a couple tablets, etc. Is it worth librebooting them and doing a preload of an OS? No idiot would trust a preload and all the original batteries are shot but I feel people would pay a lot less for a driveless and batteryless machine even if a smart user would immediately install an SSD and buy a new chinkshit battery.
So if you anons were buying would you care? If you're an anon interested at all in Libreboot would you even trust a Librebooted Thinkpad which somebody else had flashed? Soon I'll dump maybe 40 Thinkpads on eBay.
Another question, with a classic Thinkpad with a working drive I will of course include it because some are quite hard to find, and the original batteries are usually pretty shot, but my reconditioning regimen (if you care to ask about it, do, it'll be another post or maybe thread) can restore most batteries to at least a quarter of their original capacities even if they're "shot," but it takes a lot of time and shit and I'd want to charge probably $50 extra for the service. If you were looking for a real nice Thinkpad 300, 500, or 700 series would you pay at least $150 to get one with an original era-proper OS preload dual booting with NetBSD and a reconditioned battery?
Seems like a bunch of retarded questions, my other option is just hoarding them all for another decade at which time they will of course have massively appreciated. I have plenty of room in my basement lair here.
Fucking eBay cockblocking me from buying a keyboard for my Toughpad.
hmu if you got a 770X/Z or 765D.
Fuck your 31, this thing is even more awesome!
Ridiculously rare though, I saw a completely stripped (no battery, HDD etc) one go away for more than $200 last year.
Looks like a Dragonbox Pyra
I still prefer the 31
Poor man's cf-u1.
U1's Atom is a joke compared to the Core Solo in that thing.
Or what about picrel?
>DUAL hot swap batteries
>battery temp control to keep them from wearing out
>2 in-order cores for max proof against specre
>much more sturdy, once solid chunk of magnesium capable of killing a full grown man with one blow to the temple and easily hosed off without shutting down or rebooting
got openbsd on mine
A Thinkpad with any kind of mod is a hard pass for me. I don't know what kind of retard would buy a librebooted Thinkpad. If you want that then the right way to get it is to buy a stock Thinkpad and do it yourself.
Libreboot is a meme.
I can't believe that you would waste your time ruining those Thinkpads and then try to sell them on ebay.
>removing government backdoors
I use a really nondescript canvas tote. The kind you get for free.
I also have a ThinkPad branded neoprene sleeve from before the 16:9 days that fits my T60 perfectly. But it is not really that protective because there is no padding underneath the zipper.
Where can I buy quality 4:3 sleeves in this shit era we are living in?
Ebay. A lot of stuff like this gets used once and then gets put away for 15 years.
I carry my x230 in my backpack.
Absolutely in love with its size. It doesn't feel small at the same time that it is very portable.
Is it worth selling an X200? it's starting to fall behind spec-wise quite a bit so figure the amount of potential buyers has dropped significantly since I got it. A lot seem to be going for $150-$200 on Ebay, can I actually expect to get that much?
HOLY FUCK YES! Finally found a properly priced QX9300. In Europe too so I don't get reamed with """"ïmport fees"""""
Just bought a fully refurbed x200 for $75... Ebay prices are retarded.
Weyland you say?
but americans can get stolen things almost for free from it. the cheapest things there are always usa only
Finally a custom Toughbook that doesn't make me want to gouge my eyes out.
Also bought a Latitude D810 at a thrift store, thinking of modding it into a Precision M70 if I can find the parts cheap.
I found this one dude who makes custom toughbook badge engravings. I thought it was pretty neat.
I have a FLAG dogbone on my CF-19 from the same guy, pic is from when it was still on my CF-31 last year. I think I paid like 20 bucks for it.
Wow my Toughpad's rear camera is trash. Anyway, better pic of >>1049563's dogbone.
I wouldn't know what to engrave anyway, I just thought it was a sweet idea. The zombie outbreak one especially.
I thought, "memebook", nah.
"star trek"? nah...
I'm actually interested in hydro painting the silver parts on mine. Maybe someday.
So I've always been a desktop guy but lately I need a good laptop for work reasons. Seems like there's a million different thinkpad models and I can't figure out how I'm supposed to compare them and pick one. Budget is about $2000, expecting to run Manjaro or Devuan 2/3 of the time and dual boot into windows the other 1/3. 80% of use will be development and writing, might play the occasional 2D game very rarely. I asked in the sticky and anon suggested X1 Carbon. I looked around and it seems like a pretty good suggestion, I might get the 6th gen. Unfortunately he didn't give the logic of his suggestion.
<How does the X1 Extreme compare?
<Is X1 Carbon a good choice? Should I consider others?
<Generally is it unrealistic to want ryzen or win7 compatibility? (I'd be buying within a few weeks, so can't wait and see)
<Where is a good place to buy thinkpads like these? Lenovo's sites seems like they have $300-400 coupons
Cool, got my QX9300 in the mail.
>tfw no Precision M6400 to use it in
What is it supposed to do?..
The absolute fastest Core 2 CPU for laptops, and even then it only works in workstations (or gaymer laptops) like the Precision M6400, HP 8730w or ThinkPad W700.
magnesium parts* rather
Based Germans, I just bought a M6500 for 70€ and it's got the RGBLED screen too!
BIOS passworded though, but that shouldn't be a big issue. Also found out the battery of the D810 I bought actually works by accident.
8chan ate my fucking message, god damn it.
Anyway, dickhead seller refunded my money because he "sold it to someone else"
Fucking kill me. Anyway, i'm thinking of getting a very old ThinkPad (770X?) to run Windows 98 on. Good idea or should I stick with a T22 or T23 instead?
based seller. collectors are cancer.
T22 or T23 are a dime a dozen compared to 770-and-friends. And, parts for 770 are almost non-existent. I say go for the T2x.
T2x's eat palmrests like no tomorrow because of a flawed design, and the T22 has the Blink of Death issue.
t. had to replace palmrests on all three of his T2x machines.
I've managed to get my hands on an IBM thinkpad 9546. What use is this for running old software? I'm looking at using it to play DOS and Windows 95 games but no idea how useful it would be.
What should I do to it before I start using it? I'm thinking a clean windows 95 install but I don't know old hardware and what will need cleaning or replacing.
760. You'll need a external FDD to install it. I ditched mine because I didn't have a external FDD to reinstall it.
jesus fucking christ
I did some more research and it does appear to be a 760CD but doesn't fit any single models specs. 122mhz processor, 2.1gig hard drive and 56mb of ram. Currently has windows 98 installed on it and it's not running badly considering it is windows 98. Also has a built in CD drive which is nice.
Any suggestions on what I could reasonably run on this? I was not into PC gaming of that era and I'm not sure if there's a good resource for finding the specs of older games.
Oh yea, office 97 is why you dig up old hardware, fuck open office. Some REAL text editing there.
Would Quake run? Whats the best source for DOS games you could burn to a CD and install? I'm wondering if someone made an archive iso for all the major stuff like Dark forces and Warcrafts.
CD drive isn't reading burned discs or it's deaded so I have no way to get software on it now. Which is a shame as it would of been cool to have a little dos machine.
I still want to find a suitable laptop for running windows 95/98 games on though.
Transferring files to and from old machines is becoming a problem these days. But you still have options.
There are hardware emulated floppy drives. It is a drive that looks like a floppy drive to the computer, but instead of accepting a floppy disk it accepts a USB thumb drive.
There are, I think, converters that allow you to put an SSD into an old PATA machine. The device is shaped like a PATA hard drive, but it accepts a small SSD (the kind that would go into a wifi slot on your motherboard).
There are probably optical drives that connect to serial or parallel ports.
Cool Stallman, gimmie dis.
If you don't defend your Gentoo install with .45 ACP then you don't know shit about technology.
>pointing a gun at yourself
lulz darwin award to be
What's the general consensus on System76 laptops in these threads? I've heard the designers personally exclaim the keyboards are good, but I dunno whom to trust on that anymore.
Can you imagine a more pathetic picture? It's like looking at a 90's anime forum. Show us all your manga VHSes pleb
the people here are really young. only kids care about some ugly stickers and that shit
what is so great about office 97?
I have a Thinkpad T42, which was one of the last Thinkpad models that officially supports Windows 98. Works great and is more modern.
I'm curious about why you specifically bring up Office 97. I use Office 95 on my old hardware because it's free abadonware and not as bloaty. Does the job when it comes to typing up documents or doing spreadsheets.
I apologise for not checking your autism card. It was purely a joke since word processing is basically the same shit.
What should I do with the D810 in >>1049569 ? Needs a palmrest but works fine otherwise. It's got the best GPU but the worst display. Should I get a new palmrest and keep it or sell it and look out for a M70 instead?
I am a thinkpad person and I want info and opinions on toughbooks. I think I want a CF-19 Mk 6.
How do Linux and the BSDs run on it? What is the touchscreen support like? Do they still make official batteries for them? Are they botnet and does it matter?
People who have cf-19's, tell us about them. What do you like? What sucks?
Loonix runs pretty well on my 19 Mk7, TS support isn't that bad either.
3rd gen Intel so they're backdoored to hell and back. OEM batteries still available on eBay. Shit resolution and keyboard layout.
Just ordered a T420 keyboard for my T430s. Now, I tried rearranging the chiclet keyboard to colemak, but the caps surrounding the nipple wont let me; is it the same case for the classic keyboard? Is there any other method than using stickers? Or is it too much of a hassle since I'll eventually learn proper touch-typing?
It is the same for the classic keyboard. You are fucked. I would use stickers. You can get them for real cheap.
Are there any recommended vendors/packs?
cf-31 and Ubuntu runs great. (but I wanna change it for an i3 interface)
touchscreen wasn't plug n play though, had to download a calibration tool and edit the options in the BIOS, but it worked. Then, after calibrating, it gave me a sucky touchscreen outcome, it works, but it needs fine tuning in the terminal (it has a scaling error that only allows for limited use)
The drawing tablet plugs n plays, the printer just werks (plug n play), dvd just werks (but the DVD/CD burning capabilities a shit, maybe it's my unit i dunno).
All in all the performance is pretty awesome tbh, but_
>Are they botnet and does it matter?
Intel i5. I'm thinking I can use me_cleaner and coreboot on it thought, I think my chip is compatible. Nobody has an instructional on it so it's a journey. And probably a worthwhile one, whoever can do it is a champ, because the military, police, fire departments even, all use toughbooks. So yes, it matters.
Upside: if you do manage to coreboot it, you have a unit in which a battery is easy to extract, the HDD is easy to extract, wifi and wwan card can be activated and turned off manually with a switch on the side of the unit, it has tons of female connection slots. And you have the option of installing a dvd player/burner, or card reader.
oh and, it has a brightness level issue, so I had to dl an app for it. forgot to mention that.
>dl an app
>You got jewed
jewed as in overpriced or jewed as in CIAnigger fuckery done to the hardware?
Better yet, I might aswell get a CF-27 or 28 to run Win98 on.
those minimal custom meme distros wont do anything by default. the normal adjusting keys wont do anything if you dont install a program and put keybinds to commands that do the things. in normie distros all that is installed and configured by default so it just works.
but he's running ubuntu anon
doesn't work. dunno the dependencies either so, meh. now my issue is being able to save setting in i3, another headache.
Only thing that werks is Brightness Control (Xrandr), but with limited results in my experience. Meaning I have to adjust periodically throughout the day/night.
you have to install the xbacklight and xbindkeys and configure xbindkeys so it runs the xbacklight command with the parameters that you want when you press those keys.
Amd64 though. Don't think it'll work on my unit. Tried.
>Tomorrow afternoon my x230 is getting delivered.
Kind of in the same situation, only that it's a 420. I thought about saving compile time and keeping it simple with arch but I'll probably just use gentoo like on my desktop. Getting hibernate/resume to work with encryption will not be fun on either one.
What about the trackpoint, do I have to configure it in a specific way to have the normal sensitivity?
It has 16gb of ram, a nice big ssd and it seems it even comes with the docking station. It has the worse screen but that's not necessarily a bad thing because it makes it harder for other people to peek on what I'm doing on my laptop.
I like the 27, never used it though. On eBay you find em all screwed up for sale, for parts, missing parts, etc. Some are decent but seem overpriced? Even the "for parts only" ones look expensive. Still want one though... or an x200... probably an x220.
>stickers still attached
>barrel pointed at camera/self
Found an R500 in the trash the other day with a bad screen. Can I actually do anything with this or should I chuck it back in the dumpster?
Maybe you can find the screen and replace it. Might be economically worth it. As opposed to someone paying that crazy price for a new one. If the screen is too expensive, maybe not.
Gotta test the rest of the unit too, might have other issues, if you go through with fixing it, that might only be one of the issues with it.
What would you do with 120 thinkpads?
Build a gentoo distcc cluster for instant upgrades.
Keep a single x220, sell everything else on eBay.
Alternatively, give them to poor kids who can't afford them.
coreboot and sell
Depends on what you do in Excel. But for most people what you say is true.
What can Excel possibly do that LibreOffice Calc or Gnumeric can't at this point?
should i install gentoo on this
i got 3 of these in perfect condition
it belongs to bell atlantic
it has IF FOUND CALL etc
it was issued in 2001
and somehow in 2018 it ended up in my hands
i stole it from their dumpster
so yeah, 3 T22s made in mexico by IBM
also can i upgrade the pentium III
this thinkpad was before wifi so i need a usb donger
cpu is mobile pentium iii 800mhz
graphics is S3 Savage IX8+ video controller with 8MB
i can play ragnarok online on this bad boy
the ram is pc-100
this is before DDR
What does a Lenovo ThinkPad T460S have that a Dell Latitude 7480 does not have?
Anyone here own a T460S or a 7480?
Hey ya kiddo, I used a IBM ThinkPad in the white house while contacting Russia on how we gonna take down Bin Laden.
this 2001 laptop has a 1GHz pentium III
and then 6 years later they came out with the asus eee 900 which is the same thing with a die shrink
so i know what this cpu is capable of
zsnes, nesticle, quake, mame 0.53, duke nukem 3d, half-life, metal gear solid, wipeout, mechwarrior 2, descent, flight simulator, star wars dark forces, tie fighter vs x wing
What do you fags think about ThinkPad X61 Tablet?
What kind of mods can I do in it?
Is there any FrankenPad someone has made out of a X61 Tablet?
I'll take couple W520, not sure how the power managment will go. I don't want them to be running 24/7.
Going to sell two thinkpads to buy hardware for libre/corebooting. Need to look more into giving some of them away.
Corebooting and selling or giving away is the plan.
I would never buy a corebooted thinkpad. If I want coreboot I can do it myself.
Yeah, it might be that people only buy librebooted stuff.
Thinking of selling couple of x220 (4gb ram and 128gb ssd) for 50-80€
Is that a fair price for a used thinkpad?
€50 with a HDD, 80 with a SSD.
Ended up getting a palmrest and a mSATA adapter, waiting on them to come in the mail.
>mess around trying to adjust grub2 settings
>brick my toughbook's BIOS somehow
Kek, ruined my shit. And most people who repair them charge an arm and a leg. Think maybe I can flash the BIOS chip and save it?
Way too cheap imo, compare it to eBay prices (in dollars). I mean if you wanna get rid of them immediately, sure the price is great.
Never mind... It somehow fixed itself
ffs I wouldn't buy that either. If I am going to have a modded machine I am going to mod it myself. Using a machine that another man modded is fucking disgusting to me. Every time I lay my hands on it I will be reminded that another man was inside of it. Disgusting!
>What machine would be best suited to play games from the Xbox 360 era and earlier without costing a bomb?
>not realising that NTRfags will get a kick out of this
Some of the thinkpads have literally travelled the around the world twice. I also don't have the space to store them for a long time.
>bricked motherboard firmware by messing around with bootloader
How would that even be possible? If it indeed is, that's what you get for buying "modern hardware", I guess.
Then again, the first thing you should do when buying anything is to manually flash a known good trusted firmware version, because why would you trust whatever it came with (no matter if it looks stock or not)?
>I dunno whom to trust on that anymore
Nobody (not even yourself or Stallman)
Is it safe to run a Thinkpad with external I/O with the lid fully closed, or will it overheat?
What is the general consensus on the x201? What are recommended upgrades/mods? Where to get a trusted BIOS with removed WLAN card whitelist (and possibly SLIC 2.1 table)? What replacement WLAN card in place of the stock Intel one is recommended?
Nice find, but it's too old - need v1.34 which fixes a bug with the embedded video.
Some dude on eBay Kleinanziegen selling 2x4GB DDR2 (yes you read that right) SODIMMs, should I get them?
Sounds like those high-density memory sticks which aren't compatible with Intel chipsets.
isnt that just ebay with different language? looks like they use domains to select language instead of a menu
eBay.de != eBay Kleinanziegen, it's basically the German version of Craigslist.
Plenty of people used 4GB DDR2 modules in T61's so they should work.
So how come regular (non-laptop) 4GB DDR2 low-density modules are nigh-unobtainable (especially at this point)?
This. Kleinanzeigen = local (literally "little/small") adverts
The same reason you're going to have trouble finding used 16GB DDR3 DIMMs.
Nobody bought them.
Plus the fact only Broadwell (and Skylake?!) support them.
>8GB of DDR2 and 32GB of DDR3 ought to be enough for anybody
Most SDR-SDRAM systems topped out at 512MB. It was hard to get to 768MB-1GB.
Most DDR-SDRAM systems topped out at 2GB. It was hard to get to 3-4GB.
Most DDR2 systems topped out at 8GB. It was hard to get to 12-16GB.
Most DDR3 systems top out at 32GB. It's hard to get to 48-64GB.
Most DDR4 systems will top out at 128GB. It will be hard to get to 192-256GB
>Most SDR-SDRAM systems topped out at 512MB. It was hard to get to 768MB-1GB.
t. 2x512MB in a T23
I have 32GB in my P50 and loving every gigabyte of it, wish my desktop also had that much RAM but no way i''m paying 300€ or more for 32GB B-die RAM.
Do they even make 256MB ram for ddr3 or ddr4? It would be very useful for low power applications where that extra 7.5GB goes to waste, wasting power that is.
Become Santa Clause.
What is better? An ThinkPad A485 or a ThinkPad T460S?
One is more modern and another has slimmer bezels. Is the A485 better cooled than a T460S? Does the T460S have a tactile keyboard the A485 does not have?
"Most" doesn't mean "all". You had no problem upgrading a T23 to 1GB in $CURRENT_YEAR, but 18 years ago you might have been prevented by prohibitive cost for example. Other factors might be scarcity of the largest modules theoretically supported by a given chipset (which >>1057926 mentioned), or compatibility issues where a chipset won't work correctly with the largest available modules (for instance an x220 uses DDR3, but won't even get to 32GB as it accepts nothing larger than 8GB modules) etc.
>Most DDR-SDRAM systems topped out at 2GB. It was hard to get to 3-4GB.
Yep. Most DDR1 chipsets had some kind of hardware limitation where the whole address space of the chipset was 32-bit, meaning that even if you installed 4GB of physical memory, less than that was available even when installing a 64-bit OS (an example is the T60 which was artificially limited to 3GB usable RAM even though it would accept 2x2GB).
That's a late SDR system, so you're lucky it even accepts 512MB modules. Most late 90s systems would not accept even 256MB modules, thus a desktop system would be often limited to ony 512MB total even with 4 slots (and then again some motherboards were limited even further by having only 3 or 2 RAM slots).
>mfw when Intel fucked up so badly with the Pentium 4
I ran CINEBENCH 2003 on my M40 and M50 because I was bored:
>M40 with PIII-M 1.2: 140cb CPU
>M50 with Pentium 4-M running at 1.2: 102cb
>M50 at 2 GHz: 179cb
Just ordered a Pentium M 745 for my D810, let the pinmodding begin!
>inb4 a 745 running at 2.4 GHz will run housefire tier hot
some of the vba investment banking stuff
>32GB in my P50 and loving every gigabyte of it, wish my desktop also had that much RAM
What are you using all that RAM for? Lot of VMs? Games are aimed at an audience which has 8-16GB, so they don't use that much.
Just booting my old T420s, I missed this old girl.
The 1600x900 is nice compared to my fucking 1366x768 T450. Good thing I have an IPS FHD panel for it coming in the mail, should arrive next week.
Got this for my CF-31, total fail, didn't work. Sadly, because supposedly it's very fast. Anybody know any non intel wifi cards compatible with toughbooks? (preferably a fast one)
1366x768 ought to be enough for anybody
Why doesn't it work? Is the form factor wrong? Says PCI-E mini card, but IIRC you need a USB mini card.
>usb mini card
Which means I'll need an adapter for it too. And to think that this thing needs to run externally, how unaesthetic of them. Are you sure?
I know some of em have weird configurations, and are even faster too.
adding: of course that would be faster, if it's connected to 3 antennas... durr
Some of these even need special drivers to work, which seems like another pain.
ChinkPad T460S or A485?
>usb mini card
I am not certain. There was a thread on another forum that I read up where CF-31 can permanently disable wifi, wwan, etc through the BIOS.
Here is where I found it. https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Toughbooks
>Additionally, don't purchase Toughbooks that don't have a internal WLAN and/or WWAN card in it. They are Federal models 90% of the time which have the WLAN/WWAN slot BIOS restricted and you can't run a WLAN/WWAN card in one, they will not work.
What exactly is wrong with intel wifi?
Windows being a horribly bloated OS. That and RAM is really cheap right now.
>What exactly is wrong with intel wifi?
At least one of the contributing factors is botnet (AMT uses the stock network adapters).
My issue isn't being able to disable wifi or wwan, I can use both just fine, even take the thing apart. In fact recently I figured out how to configure wwan via terminal on CF-31. I'm more concerned with the EEPROM issue they mention, but there's gotta be a way. My idea is basically configuring this damn thing to work with a broadcom half mini PCIe without having to add extra hardware, if it's possible. I can worry about me_cleaner and coreboot later. Unless I have to do that first to somehow unbotnet this thing.
should finally buy that hdd tray thing for my x220 so i can use normal sata ssds in it
>normal sata ssds
what does it use by default? why is lenovo cucking everything?
He probably has a X220 without a HDD caddy.
>In fact recently I figured out how to configure wwan via terminal on CF-31
Can you explain this? Are you talking about over a serial port?
I hope it works. Let us know if it does.
ye it came with one of those tiny chips that go in the mpcie ports and i want to put other things there
Adjusting mobile broadband connection.
OS: Ubuntu 18.10 x86_64
sudo nmcli connection edit type gsm con-name verizon
(of course you won't type verizon if yours is for exp. at&t or sprint, you will type the appropriate mobile broadband provider)
You will be prompted to type your password. Do so.
You will then be prompted with options. The options will explain to you how to edit the parameters.
Type "print", and it will display your connection.
nmcli> will be blinking at the bottom of the entire mobile broadband connection setup. You can edit the connections there using the options mentioned right after you typed in your password.
i have one of those weird usb dongles that just work if its recognized. the configs are stored on the device and it can connect automatically when it gets power. its nice that no systemd or complex configs are needed for it. if it ever needs configuring then you just connect to the serial port and type things there.
My issue was a bit more complicated. Yours sounds like an easy fix, which is good, but I still prefer my connection to remain internal, only thing I'd use in a USB is probably another OS. What I did to fix my connection was simply change the phone number, your issue may only need that, or changing the APN for example if it ever happens on a device. That adjustment alone, then saving it, was enough to fix the connection.
One thing I do is remove the sim card though, until I need to use it. I don't like the wwan card receiving signal from the local tower if it's inactive, don't want needless exposure, it's like having a phone in your face all day, bad for you. I'd take it a step further and disconnect the card itself, but I dunno if I'm being too cautious.
Pretty sure most cellular devices are talking to towers whether there's a sim card or not. You might want to disable the module at boot or disconnect the antenna instead.
If it's communicating with the tower, it isn't showing up on the modem manager GUI, usually even when it's not connected and the sim is inside, you get a small amount of signal. Once you pull it out though, all signal is lost. No way for the wwan to determine a connection. You can even physically notice a difference when the device is on and when it isn't. It feels like you're literally absorbing radiation.
However, I'm thinking you might be right, like a silent mode signal on standby. I'll try the BIOS options and see if I notice a difference.
>It feels like you're literally absorbing radiation.
Oh you're one of those people. I thought you didn't want to be tracked. Carry on.
Cell phones have been linked to cancer, anon. Just saying. Not "one of those people". Just stating the obvious, even the manual in your cellphone makes you aware of the dangers. They even develop pads and covers for phones to try and isolate the negative side effects. EMF/ELF/heat shielding pads.
pic related. I dunno how to articulate it to you from a health professionals perspective, but reading a cell phones health and safety section usually explains it well. Tracking is also important, yeah. But I'm not concerned since it's not what I use for gps.
they are "designed" not to exceed the exposure limit, but the tower is what I'm concerned with. not the device. they warn you online to keep them out of your pocket, not near your head or heart. i mean who knows anon, it could all be bullshit and we'll live to be a hundred, but I'd rather not take a chance if it's true ya know?
and tbh...I don't trust the FCC. so screw that.
then there's this
gonna give an example of use so people have a better idea.
(displays list of commands)
nmcli gsm.number> 7860000000
(you manually typed the number)
nmcli gsm.number> '7860000000'
(the number is confirmed)
nmcli gsm.number> back
(option to save will appear, type yes)
it will prompt you that it was successful.
>avoid systemd in the current year
I use Artix on my X230. Works fine for the most part, though the built-in mic records only static with ALSA.
I know it's not a toughbook..but..
This thing deserves a thread of it's own.
*breaks your flimsy case*
...I....I'm actually using a CF-31 rn, anon..
But look at that server... look...at how many ports... and the dual hot swappable batteries.. on the V110.. I still love my CF-31, but it's.. a thing..m..maybe it'll pass, it's just a phase right?
It is quite flimsy in comparison. Anything with one of those rotatable screens kinda screams "weak point". But it is aesthetic. Panasonic holds the rugged trophy, I've seen these true military grade laptops though and those are like mini tanks. But most serve a specific battlefield purpose, gps, what appear to be elevation maps, etc.
peep dat mini tuff
y'know come to think about it, the hot swap batteries a shit. If you can charge a battery, why not just charge the laptop itself instead. I guess they just expect people to buy multiple batteries and continue inserting till they run out? Doesn't make any sense. Even if you just had a solar panel set up to charge them, you might as well rig up a deep cycle battery and draw juice from the converter; in some emergency scenario.
Did they change their logo?
I don't like it.
GPD MicroPC, eat your fucking heart out!
i just bought a used t420, what's the best way to clean the keyboard without having to take it out?
a compressor with a dust gun?...
too much investment just to get it clean, you can get a cheap screwdriver set at dollar stores, got one at dollar tree recently, cheap junk, but it works.
Found a top-end M6400 on my local adverts site, seller doesn't seem to respond to my inquries though, fucking kill me.
It's possible. Gotta be real careful though, spray like 12 inches away, double coat, wait an hour or so, then use matte clear coat. I used a nail to hand the panels against the wood.
hang* sorry. You know, I had been meaning to try this for a while, the original color is very distracting for me at night. And this is much cheaper than buying one of those all black $1,000 something units on eBay.