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File: b21078e1f377f09⋯.png (78.26 KB, 999x532, 999:532, Screenshot_2019-03-14_12-0….png)

 No.1041443

L2TP has been officially absorbed by SYSTEMD.

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/54c258566ea1e6cf0c0c51d8a1afb8cdc0c92379

How many years until all VPN code is officially merged, making SYSTEMD 100% exploitable?

 No.1041447

File: 594b1a11e147147⋯.gif (262.88 KB, 500x545, 100:109, anime-girl-laughing-gif-2.gif)

File: aea2db922b34733⋯.png (49.83 KB, 1200x630, 40:21, wireguard.png)

>>1041443

>he still uses L2TP


 No.1041449

>>1041443

I hunger!


 No.1041451

>>1041447

also absorbed

btw

>tfw systemd has no CoC


 No.1041453

>>1041451

>also absorbed

prove it, faggot


 No.1041454


 No.1041455

File: 9820ddb7df6ebf8⋯.png (7.77 KB, 564x676, 141:169, 1470872437387.png)

>a VPN in the init system

I bet the UNIX hater will somehow blame C and the Unix philosophy for this. He's already claimed that systemd's binary logs are a good idea that we weenies simply don't understand.


 No.1041456


 No.1041458

>>1041455

systemd is much more than an init system. it's more akin to something like a userland part of kernel. wireguard integrated into muh linux kernel? what a shame. why the userland kernel part can't provide integration code?


 No.1041459

>>1041458

>what a shame. why the userland kernel part can't provide integration code?

Learn English


 No.1041462

>>1041443

What is Poettering's endgame?


 No.1041463

>>1041459

are you one of those anons that are still under an influence of that old canonical anti-systemd psyop?


 No.1041464

>>1041454

>>1041456

from what I can tell, this is code to support wireguard within systemd-networkd, sorta like how OpenVPN has to be supported inside networkmanager, connection manager, Wicd, etc. It's not actually replacing Wireguard, as you'll still need the stuff at

https://git.zx2c4.com/WireGuard/tree/

for it to function, or you could just run this alone without the systemd shite and move on with your day.

Wireguard needs to support Slackware, Gentoo, Alpine, and FreeBSD too, so they're not going to tie themselves to Systemd, especially since their stated goal is a small attack surface and low LoC.


 No.1041468

File: 0d0884d3325e791⋯.jpg (736.69 KB, 1080x1080, 1:1, 1464731760456.jpg)

>>1041463

That's a funny response to someone telling a shitter to learn English. Are you alright?


 No.1041470

>>1041464

according to:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WireGuard#Using_native_systemd_support

>Systemd-networkd has native support for WireGuard protocols and therefore does not require the wireguard-tools package.

i don't think their intention is to "eat" wireguard or l2tp, but probably the support code (as the connection code is integrated into kernel) is simple enough to be fully integrated


 No.1041502

I decided to check the systemd github because my blood pressure was too low and out of morbid curiosity

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/11992

>systemD shits all over someone's network naming config

< poettering commented 13 hours ago

<Hmm, so I figure we can close this? I think the issue is now explained thoroughly, I guess? And there's a local fix available, too, even...

...

Hmm...

????

I guess?

Too, even...

how can someone be so consistently a faggot that makes me want to punch them in the face over and over and over and over again, always!


 No.1041503

>>1041502

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/11949

< poettering commented 3 days ago

>(Note that prohibiting u-r-d@.s to do its works isn't really helping your security. We mount the per-user tmpfs there, because we want to enforce per-user quota for the directory. If you turn that off then users can fuck up other users and the system because they can allocate as much as they want from /run, thus DoSing everybody else.)

<users can fuck up other users

are redhat employees allowed to say that on a company github? what is this github not family friendly? i feel like I have been mentally assaulted by this wording and this is against github's terms of service.


 No.1041516


 No.1041537

>>1041451

>systemd has no CoC

How the fuck didn't you fags who say to hate systemdicks haven't explored this yet? SYSTEMD IS OPPRESSIVE AND NEEDS A THICK NON-GENDERED COCK YESTERDAY


 No.1041539

What is L2TP and how does it affect openvpn?


 No.1041553

>>1041443

Slowly but surely, covering the whole kernel until it can be the kernel.

I know some fucking weed in my garden is doing the same, covering other plants and stealing all the sun, bottom plant dies and become fertilizer.


 No.1041554

>>1041539

It's an older protocol and it doesn't affect openvpn.


 No.1041555

File: e99675d5df9a6ba⋯.png (291.71 KB, 1832x599, 1832:599, system d capped.png)

>>1041443

fucking capped


 No.1041556

File: 5721a7f95d93551⋯.png (125.43 KB, 600x450, 4:3, 5721a7f95d93551687dfb74868….png)

>l2tp in init

why????


 No.1041571

>>1041556

Well anon, microsoft windows has its SSL and vpn libraries in its init too. So the CIA/redhat/pottering is just replicating what they see inside the windows source code. It makes perfect sense when viewed from the angle of desroying linux and making it windows.


 No.1041587

>>1041462

>>1041470

>>1041556

https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2010-September/000391.html

https://archive.is/3i2d6

>Well, it is definitely our intention to gently push the distributions in the same direction so that they stop supporting deviating solutions for these things where there's really no point at all in doing so.

>Sooner or later they'll hopefully notice that it's

not worth it and cross-distro unification is worth more.


 No.1041712

The cancer grows.


 No.1041827

>>1041587

it sure is if you want that it replaces windows. compatibility is important for some users and now you have to maintain multiple packages so it works on all distros or even different versions of the same distro so most people will stay on the proprietary systems that just work for them


 No.1041857

File: db6485fdd9f8f9e⋯.png (134.08 KB, 458x458, 1:1, but feathers.png)

But why? Why is systemd like some fat fuck at a family buffet, taking every little fucking thing they can and piling it onto their plate even if it doesn't make sense? In the end, it's just a slop of shit.


 No.1041889

looks like systemd is some giant shadow project to centralize entirety of internals for linux for Red Hat and soon IBM


 No.1041916

>>1041889

There's a easy way around this. Remove any libraries that require GLIB and glibC. GLIB, the gnome library, speaks for itself. Glibc is a bloat peice of shit with huge amounts of uncessary backwards compatibility and muslc or uclibc are better replacements. Once you do those two things your system will by defintion be pottering free as glib is a neccessary requirement for dbus, policykit, systemd, gtk+3, consolekit, modern udev, and a few others that will go unmentioned.


 No.1041918

>>1041916

Actually glib, and gdbus which is different then dbus by extention being removed from your system means you can not have any pottering software installed as glib is a neccessary common library for all pottering software, and I do mean all because gdbus is needed for compatibility with older zeromq botnet shit.


 No.1041923

Someone should submit a pull request that includes all of X11.


 No.1041949

>>1041923

This but doesn't he censor everything negative on the systemd github?


 No.1042084

>>1041443

>L2TP

Match made in heaven. Systemd finally managed to absorb something worse than itself.


 No.1042087

>>1042084

What's wrong with l2tp?


 No.1042130

>>1041923

systemd offical wayland compositor soon.


 No.1042140

File: 75edf1429de7b82⋯.png (10.33 KB, 548x140, 137:35, l2tp.png)

>>1042087

Root problem: L2TP is emulation of dialup connection, rather than just tunnelling (like GRE, IPIP or Wireguard).

1) L2TP does not tunnel IP, it tunnels PPP. Extra layer of complexity without any benefit, except compatibility with old enterprise setups.

2) Tunnel & channel establishment. For protocol that encapsulates unordered messages into unordered messages it makes no sense, but is there to match modem pool usage patterns. Compare with IP-in-IP, that lacks control messages or state at all; or wireguard, which has only key-establishing handshake and optional heartbeats.

Also no encryption. It's might be good from purity point of view, but in practice unencrypted tunnel is mostly useless today, so in any practical case you also deal with IPsec, which is not prettiest thing too.


 No.1042163

>>1042140

I don't see what the problem is with PPP then. I never programmed with it, so I don't know what the raw protocol is like, but when I used it decades ago it worked fine.

Isn't the whole point of it being Layer 2 Tunneling Protocol that it tunnels the network layer? Is it because it's low-level instead of application layer like openvpn or whatever else?


 No.1042202

>>1042140

Wow, something truly shittier then systemd. Never though i'd see the day.


 No.1042203

>>1042140

Wow, something truly shittier then systemd. Never thought i'd see the day.


 No.1042233

>>1042163

>I don't see what the problem is with PPP then

There is nothing wrong with PPP itself, it's just that it is not necessary for IP tunnelling case.

>Isn't the whole point of it being Layer 2 Tunneling Protocol that it tunnels the network layer?

Network level is 3 (ip). Level 2 is data link (ethernet, ppp).

Yes, it is (assuming s/network/link/).

>Is it because it's low-level instead of application layer like openvpn or whatever else?

Application level is, surprisingly, specific application protocols. HTTP, SMTP, etc. OpenVPN's tunnelling is network level (but it can also work as level 2 (ethernet) tunnel).

Yes, because it's too low level, in sense that is has to emulate details that are irrelevant for common usage. Basically, you need L3TP in majority of cases - but L2TP is widely used for historic reasons.

L2TP is non-properierary, but supported by equipment manufacturers; works over UDP (as opposed to stuff like GRE, that works over bare IP packets); works together with IPsec terminating equipment and ppp access/billing infrastructure. For ISPs and business such factors are more important than protocol cleanness and simplicity.

But for personal cases, without burden of legacy and need to integrate with RADIUS server that serviced dial up customers for 15 years, there is no reason to use L2TP.


 No.1042235

>>1042233

Thanks. I appreciate the info.


 No.1042865

>>1042233

There is L2TPv3 which is completely different to L2TPv2 and does what you expect a protocol named L2TP to do.

It's a simple static Ethernet over IP pseudo-wire adding tunnel and session ID headers with optional UDP header.

https://remote-lab.net/linux-l2tp-ethernet-pseudowires

>>1042140

>so in any practical case you also deal with IPsec, which is not prettiest thing too.

IPsec has that design-by-comity stank with every possible option because Cisco and the NSA couldn't agree on a single back door.


 No.1042866

om nom nom nom nom


 No.1042873

>>1041464

No you stupid shitskin. When you ask a question, you don't just stick the interrogative word at the beginning of a declarative sentence in order to convert it into a question. You have to invert the sentence as well.

> why CAN'T the userland kernel part provide integration code?

When you fail to do this, you sound like a kebab vendor and you instantly incur the wrath of every native english speaker who reads your scrawl. So stop fucking doing it.


 No.1042884

>>1041443

Get this,

Systemd is trying to be that next monolithic thing. It's only a matter of time until it absorbs linux itself and tries to remove the legacy code we had for decades.

It'll be the next windows 2.0 where it's either you upgrade all your hardware or stay in shit or forces you to stay in shitty architectures only which also prevents the competition for alternative architectures (win-win).

>>1041462

Not Poettering. It's CIA. wait until they threaten linus*

>>1041447

This. Based and red-pilled.

Also L2TP is supposed to only work in the firmware level - a router that uses a hardened busybox and non-systemd kernel. If you put L2TP in the software, it'll be easymode for the cianigger to fuck yer shit up.


 No.1042887

>>1041443

>>1041443

Weren't they able to already own your system by just receiving malformed packets from someone?

Also

>running malware at pid1

>letting ring zero botnet own your entire system


 No.1042891

>>1041556

This >>1041571

Didn't it make sense to you that systemd is a landing cushion for windows?

From init states in GUI, registry-like confs, timers that imitate win task scheduler, and many more like crashdumps, event log/viewer, and its binary logs. It'll grow up one day and you'll realize how much of a shitload it is considering the fact most device, web servers run linux and so does smartphones too. It'll never go away. It's CIA.


 No.1042906

>>1042884

They already neutered Linus with the CoC. Disposing of him won't be something that happens overnight. It will be one of those things where people look back and go

>What happened to Linus? He used to be really involved but he's not any more

And Linus will give everyone some bullshit excuse like he's moving on with his life.


 No.1043829

File: e1695d152ca5684⋯.jpeg (21.09 KB, 217x287, 31:41, th.jpeg)

>>1041464

>>1041470

yes.

the code does pose restrictions on how the l2tp layer is implemented. therefore systemd is reducing your spectrum of viable options.


 No.1043832

File: 8df22bb8a4ec821⋯.jpg (280.47 KB, 1162x850, 581:425, 1433878772353.jpg)

>>1042163

>>1042202

the /genius is wrong of course.

he is so wrong that i won't even bother to indulge in futility.

i like to enjoy his genetic retardation.

he smells like a nigger too.


 No.1044226

File: 20426985b1b41ba⋯.png (5.27 KB, 211x238, 211:238, index.png)

>>1041458

pic related. it's cancer.


 No.1044230

>>1041916

>I can get rid of poetteringware by rendering my system unusable

putting a power drill through your hard drive would be faster.


 No.1044231

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5043

Reminder that until next release, systemd lacks functional interface bonding.




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