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File: 9ad49a10a43fab2⋯.jpg (58.38 KB, 700x525, 4:3, Tecnologia-Google-e-i-big-….jpg)

 No.1064732

https://dailystormer.name/google-blocks-huawei-from-using-android-on-phones/

>Huawei has been blocked from using Google software on its phones, dealing a huge blow to the Chinese tech giant. New Huawei-made phones will not have access to apps such as Gmail, Google Maps and the Google Play store. Existing phones will still have the apps but users will not be able to upgrade to newer versions of the Android operating system.

>Huawei can still use Android’s open-source alternative but it will not include Google’s own-brand apps such as Gmail. Google’s move comes after President Trump banned Huawei from U.S. networks, and the firm said today it was taking ‘steps to comply with recent government actions’.

>The move from Google deals a major blow to the expansion of Huawei and is likely to cripple its expansion.

<This is an unprecedented move that ostracizes what may currently be the best phone manufacturer in the world. Consider that there is no alternative. Phones are either iPhones with iOS or Android devices. No matter how good of an alternative to these Google apps Huawei makes, the fact that their phones don’t have official Google apps will definitely influence people looking for a new phone.

>Huawei confirmed it has developed its own operating system that could replace Google’s Android and Microsoft’s Windows should it be barred from using American-made products. The prospect of being banned from such products has intensified for Huawei in the wake of its recent lawsuit against the US government.

>“We have prepared our own operating system. Should it ever happen that we can no longer use these systems, we would be prepared,” Huawei executive Richard Yu said.

Could this be a chance for a non-Google fork of Android to enter the mainstream market?

 No.1064733

>>1064732

>Huawei can still use Android’s open-source alternative but it will not include Google’s own-brand apps such as Gmail

Oh the horror, what will they ever do.

Anyway, any competition to the eternal jewgle, even if it's chinkshit, is welcome.


 No.1064735

>>1064732

>Could this be a chance for a non-Google fork of Android to enter the mainstream market?

It will be proprietary chinkshit, so even worse.


 No.1064746

>>1064733

>but it will not include Google’s own-brand apps such as Gmail

It's not even about installing that shit. Those apps normally can't be uninstalled.

Users of Huwai phones will probably be glad not to be burdened with that spyware packet.

As if the chinese botnet wasn't enough.

>>1064735

>chinese botnet is worse than american + chinese botnet

t. NSA

>>1064732

>the fact that their phones don’t have official Google apps will definitely influence people looking for a new phone.

>influence

Just tell normalfags it has less botnet which is true. Sales up.


 No.1064747

>>1064732

>President Trump banned Huawei from U.S. networks

ultra based


 No.1064748

I get Google doing this, this is what I expect from them, but why the fuck does the U.S. have to support it.

Anyway, RIP Huawei, I don't really expect much from their chinkware OS.


 No.1064750

>>1064748

>Android without Google Apps

>chinkware OS


 No.1064751

It will just be Android with chinkstore.


 No.1064754

File: 51f43b0db293a5e⋯.png (341.19 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 3822_complete.png)

>>1064746

>chink botnet is better than burger botnet

t. chink


 No.1064756

>>1064754

The phones are already produced in china and probably came with chinese software before that news story.

We're just talking about additional NSA ware here.


 No.1064781

>botnets competing with each other has destroyed the WWW

lmfao who would've guessed that the end of globalisation would come at the hands of fucking bots


 No.1064835

>>1064754

Chinks don't occupy my country though, so yes it is. No one is worse than google regardless.


 No.1064838

Wonder if they'll try something with the FLOSS community and alternative stores like f-droid.


 No.1064864

What a great change. I'm going to pay more attention to that brand now.


 No.1064912

File: 0408a17faf8d813⋯.jpeg (40.55 KB, 477x350, 477:350, 1 1=3.jpeg)

>>1064732

So basically all huawei phones are essentially going to have the same features as China domestic models, i.e. no google apps, just proprietary huawei app store, mail etc? This really doesn't change much to be honest; chinkshit is only good when you can boot a FOSS alternative like Lineage.

At the end of the day, you're forced to choose either the Chinese or American poison.


 No.1064914

>>1064835

I’m sure you’d rather live in China too? Retard


 No.1064916

>>1064914

He wrote that he'd rather have chinkware than chink+NSAware and that chinks can't do shit to him whether they datamine him or not, NSA-kun.

I'd personally advertise for not having a smartphone.


 No.1064917


 No.1064921

>>1064917

Besides Apple being, well, Apple, is there any evidence they do shit like this? iOS is far superior to Android anyways in terms of overall user experience. It doesn’t let you do shit like browse the file system or open a command line but let’s be honest, for a mobile OS that level of access is a novelty and you should get a proper PC for that level of tinkering. Apple knows what their OS is for and what it’s not for.


 No.1064923

>>1064732

>>“We have prepared our own operating system. Should it ever happen that we can no longer use these systems, we would be prepared,” Huawei executive Richard Yu said.

I like how they even admit their own in-house software is only a last resort if they can’t use superior American products


 No.1064925

>>1064923

>superior

More like most popular. Microsoft tried and failed, no wonder its a risk to switch.


 No.1064930

>>1064925

>Microsoft tried and failed,

At what you mean mobile? They probably use Windows in-house for a lot of shit. Most industrial-tier software for shit like internal debugging and manufacturing is still largely Windows based


 No.1064931

File: 03cac24b5bb6834⋯.png (235.35 KB, 481x422, 481:422, phonefarm.png)

What are you going to use your 100 phone server farm for when the price dives?


 No.1064932

Kindle fires come with Amazon shit instead of access to the google stuff. It takes all of 10 minutes to crack one and get the play store on it, and this will be even easier. Id people can pirate Pokemon go they can pirate the playstore just as easily.


 No.1064933

>>1064931

Posting horse cocks on /v/


 No.1064934

>>1064931

>There are actually people building server farms with Chinkphones and Pajeet-tier Android-based server software

That sounds horrifying.


 No.1064945

>>1064931

>china spies at hardware level

>you're hosting a public site/rendering art you want people to see anyway

>>1064934

chroot/uboot should be possible


 No.1064950

>>1064945

Uboot is only a thing on trash like Allwinner SoCs and is not as simple as a conventional BIOs because you need to compile device trees and deal with device tree files and other such autism.


 No.1064952

>>1064945

>running a server farm with each server in a chroot jail

That sounds horrible


 No.1064954

>>1064952

But it's cheap bro

--

Sent from my 𝕙𝕒𝕟𝕟𝕒𝕙 𝕞𝕠𝕟𝕥𝕒𝕟𝕒 𝕝𝕚𝕟𝕦𝕩 𝕤𝕖𝕣𝕧𝕖𝕣 𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕠𝕠𝕥 𝕛𝕒𝕚𝕝 𝕚𝕟 𝕒 𝕤𝕞𝕒𝕣𝕥 𝕥𝕧 𝕠𝕦𝕥𝕤𝕚𝕕𝕖 𝕞𝕪 𝔻𝕄ℤ


 No.1064955

>>1064952

You forgot the best part

>each Chroot jail is running in some paneer-tier terminal emulator on top of Android


 No.1064956

>>1064934

It's for click farming. People pay the Chinese bugs to visit their site and give them views/clicks. A single bug will sit at a console of dozens and dozens of phones and tablets, opening and closing websites and clicking on ads and videos.


 No.1065011

>>1064945

Thanks to android we already have a linux kernel on all those devices.

All you need is to stick a linux distro rootfs on the /system/ partition and it'll boot, with some caveats.

The kernel will probably be an ancient fork, so that might limit software updates and even eventually require you to mirror your distro's repositories.

Android's botnet kernel modules provide incompatible APIs only implemented by android itself and not your average unix software like mesa and so on, this is why things like PostMarketOS have missing hardware support.

If you want to use your phone botnet to send calls then the radio hardware will likely be unusable, but either way you're guaranteed to be able to run software and connect to the internet via USB, so everything except calls is doable from a phone botnet, and it can run any linux distro with ARM support.

A phone farm is surprisingly good from a cost perspective.


 No.1065012

Is there a kosher free alternative to (((Android))) that I can install on my Moto Z2?


 No.1065013

>>1065012

Replicant and PostMarketOS are the botnet-free operating systems targetting mobile phones.

Or just plain old gnu+linux/any BSD, but then you run into the hardware manufacturers intentionally blocking the user from running those systems with bootloader fuckery and 0 hardware support.


 No.1065014

>>1064921

Not to my knowledge. I'd keep my eyes open though.

This is probably the thing that stood out the most I guess. 5G may become bigger than we imagine if Apple has access to the technology. And I'm not a fan of 5G in any form.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/qualcomm-apple-settlement-is-surprisingly-good-for-intel-but-its-bad-news-for-samsung-2019-04-17


 No.1065020

<This is an unprecedented move that ostracizes what may currently be the best phone manufacturer in the world.

>muh based chinks

(((The Daily Stormer))) continues to prove that it is indeed full of subversive faggots.


 No.1065022

>>1065020

I didn't even realize it was a daily stormer article, kek wtf


 No.1065084

I hate when journalists use the phrase "open-source alternative". It implies that closed-source is the genuine product and open-source is an inferior knockoff.


 No.1065085

>>1064746

> the fact that their phones don’t have official Google apps will definitely influence people looking for a new phone.

Only overseas. Chinese phones in China don't come with Google Play it anything. They have their own stores etc.

They'll just have to make a new shop for the west, which devs will flock to easily.


 No.1065101

>>1065085

>which devs will flock to easily

How would anyone with a healthy functional brain even come to that conclusion? Are you brain damaged? Amazon has a hard enough time getting support for their shop let alone some company that while massive outside the west, is virtually unheard of in the western world at best and at worst has a completely tarnished reputation even if they do manage to gain any presence in the west at all.

>Chinese phones in China

>with Google Play it anything

Learn proper English chink


 No.1065120

>>1065020

Anglin is technologically retarded, I'll tell you that much.


 No.1065133

They could just use AOSP and microG, no?


 No.1065183

It sure smells chinky in here, let's clean out the threat

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>>1064835

So you're not American/European/Australian/Philipino/Brazilian/South African/African? Man what a coincidence

>id: rob


 No.1065197

File: cb20d520c1411a7⋯.png (65.27 KB, 487x278, 487:278, 1558458318474.png)

>dailystorm

>the entire thread is full of faggots talking about smartphones and "le botnet XDDD"

>not one mention of USA's sanctions

What the fuck happened to this place?


 No.1065200

File: 96ccea552351eaf⋯.jpg (289.07 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Beryl and Sapphire.jpg)

>>1064732

China is the final real redpill.

http:// humansarefree.com/2018/11/hundreds-of-birds-dead-during-5g.html

>Netherlands, Hague

>dead birds during 5G test

>Netherlands ICT provider is Ericsson which was acquired by Google since around 2014 (Motorola/Sony Ericsson)

On US/EU/UK (royal jew + templars bloodline)

>bad 5G can kill small animal immediately

>puts backdoors in router and FCC will arrest you for 'tampering' with the backdoor or hardening your router with foss replacements

>almost the entire list of shit in the iceberg /x/ meme belongs in the mutt alone and if not then it's made by the very same source

>makes shit cartoon pedopizzagate with illuminati and brainwashing subliminals that make you crave mcdonals

On China (based bloodline)

>based 5G safe and Huawei #1 in the world

>kills people who put backdoors in Huawei routers, based first end to end fiber systems

>based I Ching

>makes based anime, like pic related

Enjoy larping with your qresearch and trump kekposting. Trump == bad blood elite and dines with the Queen and Hillary Clinton at the same table == basically they all 1 bloodline RH negative blood


 No.1065204

>>1065200

Okay stormtard


 No.1065207

>>1065011

For a web cluster/experiment, USB 2.0 would be tolerable, or having a dedi wifi router in a shielded, saturated room of wifi cancer.

Does anyone know which would be the best model for price/postmarketOS compatibility? Can we beat the botnet by running our own botnets?


 No.1065211

>>1064732

if anything its a good thing because the phones will have slightly less botnet by default


 No.1065226

I don't get it.

Don't smartphones come with a fucking browser? can't people just use the fucking browser to access Gmail, Maps and whatever?


 No.1065230

>>1065226

I wonder how many phone niggers completely neglect using a browser.


 No.1065242

Man the chinks really predicted this years ago when they banned google and other silicon valley tech giants don't they? This should be a wake up call for other nations currently relying on western tech. Imagine your country's critical infrastructure relies on google and some future nut job POTUS suddenly raised a finger and all your electricity and telecommunication are gone.


 No.1065266

>>1065197

>image

kys, weeb. also see >>1065200

>>1064747

?

>>1065226

>using modern websites with a dual core cpu and <= 4 GiB od RAM

Very unpleasant experience.


 No.1065275


 No.1065289

>>1065242

China's power lies in its manufacture base.

Trump (and the world elites) learned their lesson and they won't ever allow a single country to concentrate all of that. Major move next is to make companies leave China and spread throughout Southeast Asia and India, that way power will be decentralised.

China will go down to the dumps as well, because it chose being a Exporter, and it's too late to shift strategies now.

Actually, China's Belt & Road initiative was a necessary maximum for their shift from Exporter to Consumer economy by creating Debt-traps, that way finally managing to raise the standards of life of the Chinese, but even this is going downhill.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-27/china-discovers-dollar-hegemony-tough-nut-crack

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-26/xi-promises-abandon-beijings-debt-trap-diplomacy

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-13/chinas-belt-road-decade-too-late


 No.1065310

>>1064914

>I’m sure you’d rather live in China too?

yes (seriously)


 No.1065350

ARM has severed ties with Huawei. I don't trust the US government anymore than I do the Chinese or Huawei, but this is protectionist bullshit. Now would be the right time to through support into RISCV.

https://archive.is/WNKBU


 No.1065362

>>1064732

>Huawei has been blocked from using Google software on its phones

>dealing a huge blow to the Chinese tech giant

Pick one, and only one.


 No.1065368

>>1065289

And what makes you think the next president won't undo all of Trump's policies?

Democracy is America's greatest strength and weakness.


 No.1065369

>>1064914

>I bet you'd even rather live in a country without niggers. smh


 No.1065371

>>1064921

>accessing a command line or a bloody file system is a novelty

Well now I've heard everything.


 No.1065373

>>1065120

>>1065022

>>1065020

I guarantee you half the retards there unironically believe android is run by based aryan techno gods.


 No.1065376

>>1065266

That's just the shitscript, you fucking retard.


 No.1065378

>>1064732

Huawei to build the Linux desktop?


 No.1065384

>>1065368

Because Trump is a globalist puppet and he's breaking up a threat to the globalist power exercised using the USA as a front.

The globalists know that China has a lot of power over them and they want to do away with that.

This is not about 'bring back the jobs!', 'bring back the factories!', this is about defeating a threat.

Just like with the post-Soviet Russia, they wanted to dominate China via debt traps and globalism, but China's Mercantilism and Protectionism defeated their 'muh free market' mechanisms and now they want to put down the monster they created.


 No.1065388

>>1065371

For a smartphone yeah it is a novelty. Especially in Android where every application is ran under its own user anyways because the Pajeets in charge fail at security. There’s no point in poking around a smartphone OS anon, you’re not going to be doing any serious hacking or programming or shit from a smartphone, you might try and go full LARPer but it’s not worth it and isn’t an ideal experience


 No.1065392

File: dfe5999cef86db9⋯.png (40.5 KB, 328x316, 82:79, CF035F82-513A-4EC2-9F07-93….png)

>>1065384

You don’t know how China works. Nobody does, not even Trump, but especially retards like you. China has no interest in overtaking America’s military or economic supremacy. 1.) because China doesn’t want the burden of playing world police and their military infrastructure isn’t even equipped to handle itself on a global scale (domestic they are a force for sure but are in no way prepared to put bases everywhere) and 2.) Because they are not economically prepared to start pushing the Yuan as a global currency like the USD. 1 Yuan is only 15 cents. They keep it low to keep working wages low relative to the west so exports are cheap enough to justify other countries outsourcing labor to and China doesn’t want to forfeit that position even if that means increasing the value of their currency. I is more then comfortable with sitting back and letting America take the blunt of running the world if it means they can get away with forcing Muslims and niggers out.


 No.1065393

>>1065392

*Xi is more then comfortable


 No.1065399

>>1065392

You're more retarded.

You don't know that for China to successfully raise its standards of living, they would have to forfeit their export-powerhouse status because that way their labour costs would go up and become too expensive.

That's why it needs the Belt & Road initiative, to make sure the manufacturing base of cheaper countries will be tied to China, like vassals.

This is the same strategy the IMF does for the West, and that worked wonders before China appearing.

Do you even know cost-of-labour theory? I really don't think so. As a country gets more developed and standards of living rise, companies flee to cheaper harbours - that's exactly what happened to Europe and the USA, and is going to happen to China. They're preparing for that by doing its own kind of Imperialism.

Only an imbecile who doesn't know economics wouldn't know that, and this person is you.

If the West didn't exist, China would have to do what it is trying to do, this is not some bellicose cause against the West, this is a necessity for China to survive.


 No.1065404

>>1065399

The Belt and Road initiative is to ensure China has a steady stream of people buying Chinese products. China has no interest in exporting labor themselves, they’re not setting up factories in other countries or anything like that retard. The Belt and Road initiative is targeting poorer countries not to export labor but to turn desperate nations into debt slaves to them


 No.1065408

>>1065399

>You don't know that for China to successfully raise its standards of living, they would have to forfeit their export-powerhouse status because that way their labour costs would go up and become too expensive

So you’re agreeing with me


 No.1065410

>>1065404

>China has no interest in exporting labor themselves

This is inevitable. Their rising standards of living will make their labour too expensive.

It's already happening, companies were leaving China for SEA even before the "trade war".

>but to turn desperate nations into debt slaves to them

Yes, and that's how you control the manufacturing base of another country, make it perpetually indebted to you, and that way you can safely export jobs.

>>1065408

I don't care about what you think.


 No.1065412

>>1065410

>Their rising standards of living will make their labour too expensive

The Chinese central government is always manipulating the Yuan keeping it low enough to keep labor costs down.


 No.1065415

>>1065410

Also, China does currency manipulation so that the Yuan value can stay low, artificially deflating the cost of Chinese exports.

This worked wonders and made them hoard reserve Dollars like no one.

But as the USA puts sanctions on them, they compensate their rise in export prices by cutting the Yuan again - this is destroying a finely crafted balance they had a hard time to create to benefit them, and Dollar reserves are starting to outflow from China, as Dollar-denominated Chinese debt (be it public or private) is getting harder to pay, because you need more and more Yuans to get a Dollar now (Dollars are fleeing China like crazy). This is also creating rising inflation in China, prices are soaring, meanwhile companies are cutting costs and jobs are diminishing.

It's getting really hard for China to escape and the future looks grim for them.

By the way, I'm not defending the USA. The USA is a Globalist Machine and it is acting on its own interests - but it's also not good that the West descend into a subservience position to foreign powers.

Solution is crushing China and domestic revolution. The USA is lost, but things are looking good in Europe.


 No.1065417

>>1065412

Read what I wrote above. Also, this is not cutting anymore, as I said, companies are already leaving.


 No.1065420

>>1065392

>1 Yuan is only 15 cents

Someone get xi jinping on the line, I just came up with a genius idea: introduce a new banknote worth 7 yuan, called the "chinese dollar". Suddenly chinese currency is worth 1.05 times USD, and it becomes the worlds backing currency. Sit back and let the money flow in.


 No.1065421

>>1065420

Dual currency would destroy their weaker currency, and destroying their weaker currency would destroy their exporting power.

They're trying to prevent that at all costs.

Also, it isn't just having a 'strong currency' that makes it desirable for people to have.

People/Nations want currencies in which they can pay debt with, and that's the Eurodollar hegemon.

The Yuan simply cannot make a dent on it no matter what. The Belt & Road tried to increase the Yuan-denominated debt (and consequently the demand for it), but so far has failed miserably.


 No.1065422

>>1065421

>Dual currency

It wouldn't be a dual currency. They would have a single currency, with bills freely convertable between yuans and chinese dollars. This is guaranteed not to devalue the yuan, because someone could take their chinese dollars and get 7 yuan, no matter what.


 No.1065423

>>1065350

>but this is protectionist bullshit.

All that free market stuff is just a meme that murrica likes to push as propaganda on foreign countries as so to have its own companies and interests flooding in whatever foreign is dumb enough to buy into it but when it comes to its own internal market murrica is always quick to show the middle finger to the free market and apply protectionist measures if it deems necessary.


 No.1065424

>>1065422

And who would want Yuans? Yuans would have no value as "Chinese Dollars" would take the position of importance as a reserve currency.

And you simply ignored that this "Chinese Dollar" wouldn't catch as a reserve currency at all in the first place.


 No.1065427

>>1065266

>using modern websites with a dual core cpu and <= 4 GiB od RAM

>Very unpleasant experience.

Are gmail and google maps really that heavy tho?

>>1065275

Well since they are going to be ditching Android they don't need to worry about having Google play, Google store or google anything on their system, they'll probably create their own versions of those services when they build their "Android alternative OS".


 No.1065428

>>1065424

>simply ignored that this "Chinese Dollar" wouldn't catch as a reserve currency at all in the first place.

But they'd be worth more than USD! You clearly don't understand economics.


 No.1065429

>>1065427

>Well since they are going to be ditching Android they don't need to worry about having Google play, Google store or google anything on their system, they'll probably create their own versions of those services when they build their "Android alternative OS".

They could just make Android apps be installable via some other source in their Android-clone or whatever. This is not as bad as it seems. But the thing is the message and the precedent it creates.


 No.1065430

>>1065428

No, they wouldn't, because you couldn't​ buy anything with them because people wouldn't want it.

I'll repeat myself:

What makes a currency desirable is the fact that you can pay debts with it. A "Chinese Dollar" strong currency would have no demand as there's no debt accompanying it to be payed. Just look at some European currencies - many are stronger than the Dollar and the Euro, but do Peoples/Nations want them? No.


 No.1065431

>>1065430

Aha! I see where I erred - the Yuan being worth 15 cents is a sufficient but not a necessary condition for it being worthless as reserve. Carry on


 No.1065432

>>1065399

>China to successfully raise its standards of living

LEL.

China couldn't raise its standards of living even if it really wanted to.

There isn't enough planet to support a demographic as big as China actually consuming them goods you know?


 No.1065433

>>1065432

This is not for the government to decide and it's already happening. This is really a market force. Compare the standards of living of China in the 70s and now.

>>1065431

You're retarded.


 No.1065435

>>1065433

>Compare the standards of living of China in the 70s and now.

Very difficult to do considering the way China obfuscates their data, but I was under the impression that out in the country, where China relegates most of it people, life is still pre-industrial bar some modern technology.


 No.1065436

>>1065435

I'll spell it for you: it increased. By any metric.

I'll also repeat: companies were already leaving, before the trade war, because of this, even with Yuan manipulation (which is unsustainable).


 No.1065437

The "trade war" is mere accelerationism. Everything that is happening to China would have happened either way, but it would take close to a decade to manifest as it is today.


 No.1065443

>>1065415

>but it's also not good that the West descend into a subservience position to foreign powers.

I'm not sure if it would be that bad tbh.

I'm honestly pretty fed up with crappy american "culture" shitting up the planet with its retarded identitarism, modern "feminism", niggers niggering and being shoved everywhere, you know, all that crap.


 No.1065444


 No.1065447

>>1065444

>Jewstein

Here, real Germania.

https://youtu.be/GOffk1G6OX8


 No.1065448

>>1065443

You have it wrong. America doesn't want identity politics. America has to be a place where human rights are paramount and defended at all costs regardless of your background or beliefs. However, European liberals twisted this idea into identity politics and misinterpret this as "LET EVERYONE IN!" including the Sharia Law Muds that want nothing more then to see faggots hang.


 No.1065449

>>1065448

>The postmodernism fake story

No. Jews from Frankfurt school did that when they immigrated to the USA. Marxism did that. Cultural Marxism did that.

The replacement of Europeans by hordes of Afro-Asiatics is a well documented Jewish enterprise being rolled out.

Lurk more, or have 8ch died for good? I filtrated by boomers, redditors and underage faggots?


 No.1065466

>>1064732

They are just trying to attack China's economy. What moral argument can fucking Google make against anything that the Chinese do? They are hypocrites. They are in favor of everything as long as it's done to us. So I say good. I side with the Chinese. They aren't an immediate threat to me, and honestly, they are the ones making everything, whether they do it well or not (sometimes they do). These "post-industrial" countries don't deserve any success, and don't deserve any influence. Making China develop software is a good thing, because nothing can be worse than what the west has been making.

Of course, this is only for phones, but it could become a trend, and they might end up developing real software. If they come up with something new, that can't be a bad thing, considering that the west just keeps rehashing garbage, and constantly making everything worse, while problems are never solved. After a decade of unprecedented decadence, I have no reason to be against a change in the global hierarchy. The Chinese have earned it. China is a shithole, but it deserves to be top dog, because everyone else is too incompetent to be in control of anything. These corporations can't handle competition.


 No.1065474

Good riddance...

Now they just need to do the same to: XiaoMi, Lenovo, OnePlus, ViVo and RedMi. And we’ll be all good and safe.


 No.1065480

>>1065392

1:

You are over thinking chinks. The Africans don't sit down their and say they're going to supremacy nations or world trade. They don't even know what those things are. They can't even complete the sentence. Instead, they get as far as "africanoid supreme." In this way, the chinks, as well as all the rest of the Asiatics, think "asia supreme" and maybe -- maybe -- complete one or two extra words. But they still cannot complete the sentence. Their economics are worse than kikes, and they are the prototypical Kazakhs. Incidentally, this addresses their 'tech' -- if it can't be stolen and supported from those stolen from, it falls back down, or never even launches. "Doesn't want to X" is not the same as "Can't even into X."

2:

China cannot stay where it is. It has decided to try to eat more, as a solution. It cannot, and in addition, there is no more. Thus keeping the outsource and currency arbitrage position is untenable. That's why they doubled down. And being the idiots that they are, they have zero self-awareness that doubling down halves the clock not extends it.

3:

The dead bag of leaves falling over that is the africains and asiatics has always happened. It's been happening for the last 25 thousand years. Welcome to Earth. The cheapest will iterate the fastest, hence why Caucus Man is so good at killing them all.

4:

Even killing them all wasn't enough. Too many. Hence winter, and the retreat to the high lands. And this entire precipice is precisely because winter is already here, and getting colder. Hence the mad dash for applied force, the doubling down on currency arbitrage, and the arrival of more dead leaves.

Asiatcs are not Mankind. They don't behave like man, and personifying them with Man's traits will fail implementation. They will only be spared, and even then only transiently, if they remember my image. Otherwise this all happens again, and we have to go kill them. Again.


 No.1065483

>>1065466

>These corporations can't handle competition.

China can't handle the competition.

They have never once actually competed.

That's the whole point.

And there's little left to pillage/arbitrate/Jew out of their position.


 No.1065502

>>1065466

>They are just trying to attack China's economy

China has done nothing but attack the rest of the world's economy for the past thirty years.

>What moral argument can fucking Google make against anything that the Chinese do?

They are merely complying with US Law.

>They are hypocrites. They are in favor of everything as long as it's done to us.

Google has nothing to do with this. It was the US decision to fuck Huawei for spying on US citizens and stealing IP from American companies.

>So I say good. I side with the Chinese. They aren't an immediate threat to me,

This is the most retarded thing I've read all day.

>because nothing can be worse than what the west has been making.

Ah, yes. Since YouTube is bloated let's use software from a dystopian authoritarian country that has no moral problem poisoning and murdering their own citizens.

>Of course, this is only for phones

It's not. This has nothing to do with smartphones. It's about their telecom equipment.

You clearly have no idea of what's going on.

>but it could become a trend, and they might end up developing real software. If they come up with something new, that can't be a bad thing, considering that the west just keeps rehashing garbage, and constantly making everything worse, while problems are never solved.

Chinese software is so much worse is not even funny. Try using AliExpress or WeChat.

>After a decade of unprecedented decadence

This hasn't happened.

>I have no reason to be against a change in the global hierarchy. The Chinese have earned it. China is a shithole, but it deserves to be top dog, because everyone else is too incompetent to be in control of anything.

You mean the Chinese Communist Party. Mainland China doesn't have a proper government, it's all the Party's will.

>These corporations can't handle competition.

China is the most uncompetitive country in the world. They steal intellectual property, leverage slave labour and deceive to side-step customs payments.

Frankly, if China is getting fucked by tariffs right now is precisely for their uncompetitive behaviour.


 No.1065523

>all these corperate shills ITT

(((phones))

(((phones))

(((PHONES))

Don't use them. They are not required for anything and the biggest privacy thread to you.

2 cameras. Front to constantly film you while you catch pokémon, back to film the people around you.

And a microphone which you hold closely towards you because you're a fucking addict and catches every word you say.

The voice search functionality perfectly learns your voice in order to distinguish the voices.

Each time you put your finger on the screen they fucking fingerprint you with integrated fingerprinting technology.

Constantly being connected to the cell network means they can triangulate your position more exactly than over GPS.

Don't use them. They are not required for anything and you'll feel free without them.


 No.1065542

>>1065502

You sound like a mindless Fox News watching boomer who has absolutely no idea about how things actually work IRL.

All the big industry people from the first world willingly made a deal with China to move their industries over there to increase their profits by taking advantage of low wages, little to no working laws and other benefits. Part of these deals included transference of knowledge about technology, it's possible that some stealing of intellectual property happened but this happens everywhere, a lot of technology China has now was merely handled to them in a silver plate in those deals.

If there's someone to blame for the current affair of things it's the people in charge of all those big corps and industries, China merely took advantage of their greed and stupidity.


 No.1065543

>>1065466

>What moral argument can fucking Google make against anything that the Chinese do? They are hypocrites.

Google was forced to do it by the government. They don't gain anything from it.


 No.1065549

>>1065542

Listen to this guy

t. knower


 No.1066175

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-25/huawei-spent-all-their-resources-stealing-stunning-new-expose-says

The West shall learn its lesson.

The West naive trust in alien races will produce a backlash so great it will be the basis of the ethos of the new era.


 No.1066197

>>1066175

money is the only thing that matters so nothing will change


 No.1066206

>>1066197

Evola was right tbh.


 No.1066207

>>1064864

>>1064838

what are you morons retarded or something? you know huawei is just a chink arm of the chink government right?

you retards think they're going to "try something with the FLOSS community"? kek.


 No.1066209

>>1065483

>They have never once actually competed.

True to some extent because the west just gave up. When everyone else is a loser, all you gotta do is not be that and you win. Software, on the other hand, will be different, because the other shit countries still make that. So if China develops more software, they will be competing with the west, so there will be more competition, which is always good because it forces everyone to do a better job. It's basic fucking logic.

>China has done nothing but attack the rest of the world's economy for the past thirty years.

By making everything that you own because your country is too incompetent and lazy to do it?

>Google has nothing to do with this. It was the US decision to fuck Huawei for spying on US citizens and stealing IP from American companies.

Google has everything to do with this. They do the exact same thing. They do everything that China does, but to the whole world. On top of that, the American government can actually use that information to fuck you, while China can't do much. The American government doesn't want to be spied on, but they do that to everyone else, even their supposed allies. It's a joke. They are all a bunch of hypocrites. China, on the other hand, definitely has a reason to spy on America, a country that is practically their enemy, despite completely depending on them.

>dystopian authoritarian country

Look at Europe. They are making China look good in comparison.

>Chinese software is so much worse is not even funny. Try using AliExpress

That's a funny example, because I just bought a shitload of stuff from AliExpress because eBay doesn't work, so I can't pay for my purchases. That's how it tends to go. Chinese stuff is always kinda bad or decent but kinda broken, while the western stuff doesn't work at all.

>China is the most uncompetitive country in the world. They steal intellectual property,

You are beyond retarded. The entire concept of intellectual property exists to restrict competition. Copyright in general is one of the major excuses for censoring the entire internet.

>>1065523

>Don't use them. They are not required for anything and you'll feel free without them.

Yes. Regardless of where they are made, they are all botnet. It's bad technology anyway.

>>1065543

>Google was forced to do it by the government.

That's a new level of retardation. Well, I guess the botnet isn't a problem after all, because everyone was just forced. Because refusing to do it and exposing the government for their unethical bullshit is impossible, or something. Kill yourself. Google is a global monopoly that pretty much controls the interent. They aren't forced to do shit.

>>1066206

Governments that focus on money will always be shit.


 No.1066210

>>1066197

You don't even know what money is, junior.


 No.1066213

>>1066209

>>1065543

>>implying (((they)))/they are not behind both Google and the government


 No.1066222

>>1066209

>Because refusing to do it and exposing the government for their unethical bullshit is impossible, or something.

Yep.

Google is an american company and need to comply with the government or face severe consequences.

Most of the time those big corps can simply do as they please but when the government need them to comply to something the government actually has the power to force them to do it.

This isn't your epin cyberpunk vidya gaems dystopia. Corps have a lot of power but they can't simply overrun and expose the big heads in Washington, at least not yet.


 No.1066225

>>1066209

>Look at Europe. They are making China look good in comparison.

> On top of that, the American government can actually use that information to fuck you, while China can't do much.

>You are beyond retarded. The entire concept of intellectual property exists to restrict competition.

Thanks for this post guy I really needed a good laugh


 No.1066227

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>>1066209

Can you imagine being white I hope, using an American website, and being this big of a Sinophile? Imagine being this pathetic. You're not the same retard from awhile back that claimed the Chinese invented powered flight and discovered America before Europeans are you?


 No.1066235

>>1064732

>Could this be a chance for a non-Google fork of Android to enter the mainstream market?

That would be a great outcome from this tbh


 No.1066241

>>1066235

Huawei will probably fight, but it has been removed from the world, really.

If I were the Chinese, I would dismember Huawei into several other minor companies and keep doing the same shit.

Huawei isn't just a smartphone company, and like Samsung for instance, has its feet deep into heavy industries and technological infrastructure.

So, this is not just a matter of "make a forked Android", this is a full blown assassination.


 No.1066250

>>1066213

Well, no. (((They))) are behind everything to one extent or another, including the government, Google, China, and this thread.

>>1066222

>Google is an american company and need to comply with the government or face severe consequences.

They still chose to do it, and they probably could refuse and get away with it, they at least could try. We are talking about a global monopoly here. Besides, can you really believe that Google doesn't want to do this? They fucking love it. Just look at them. When you talk about freedom, but defend Google in any way, you really gotta reconsider your priorities.

>>1066227

I have no love for China, and that would be very easy to understand if you could actually read, nigger. China is a shithole, but everyone else is as bad or worse. At least China is still industrial. What is your country doing other than bitching about China, destroying freedom in the world and maybe developing shit software? Fucking nothing.

>Chinese invented powered flight and discovered America before Europeans

Never heard the powered flight thing. Regardless, it tends to be difficult to say who did something for the first time. Flight is a good example, since thousands of people in Europe and America were attempting it around the same time. The Chinese coming to America is an old theory. I think it was because of some old maps that were found in China at some point, and they had fuck huge ships and were a technological superpower at the time, so it's possible. Likely, even, unless something new has been discovered. I don't care, so I don't know.

America was "discovered" before the Renaissance regardless. Vikings visited North America and tried to raid a village or two before having to escape, way before that. Then again, just shut up and go read a book, or something. History is a lot more messy than your retarded elementary school teacher told you, and while China is shit now (being constantly invaded, and then adopting communism and American capitalism, well, it's not surprising that their culture is dead), they used to be amazing. Just like Greece and Rome were the foundation of western civilization, but now Greece is a shithole and the Roman Empire was destroyed by barbarians, and Italy is just kind of a broke country that doesn't have a whole lot of presence.


 No.1066261

File: d16fefb3cb5c8b2⋯.gif (1.76 MB, 480x360, 4:3, OukOuhSCb-ML50jwRY5cGqJnB6….gif)

>>1066250

>The Chinese coming to America is an old theory. I think it was because of some old maps that were found in China at some point, and they had fuck huge ships and were a technological superpower at the time, so it's possible.

It was a hoax you fucking idiot. The "Old Maps" with Chinese writing that was "discovered " (AKA bought by some lawyer that got ripped off and had to make money back through publicity) depicted California as an Island. California as an Island comes from a cultural belief from an old Spanish legend and there is little reason China would've depicted California as an island ever, especially if they come to America from the East and not the South. China never discovered America, even once. And your autistic walls of text suggests you're a massive Sinophile. Cope.


 No.1066323

File: 5072bb2d9ff9943⋯.jpg (31.54 KB, 480x531, 160:177, Smug Anime Girl 2.jpg)

>>1064732

>Chinks can no longer use *insert software/OS here*

<chinks proceed to rip off line by line said *insert software/OS here*

Give a white man a hammer and you get a house, give a chink insect a hammer and you will get 10 hammers of shit quality.........that will later flood your market. Chinks should be banned from exporting anything period.


 No.1066330

>>1065448

THAT"S,,, SO.TRUE BORTHER, GOD.BLESS 🇺🇲🇮🇱


 No.1066353

>>1066241

they can just keep selling their crap to chinks like they probably did when no one knew about the company


 No.1066658

>>1064746

>spyware on huawei

It's not just hawei mate (no pun), it's even on every ARM chipset. Qualcomm system apps are fucking USA/google botnet and these apps will use data without user intervention for up to 10GB per month causing undesired charges.

>>1064735

>as if hardware is not proprietary

>no open hardware in consumer products

>google may not be proprietary but still has plenty blobs that make it much worse

https://invidio.us/watch?v=hLjht9uJWgw

>>1064747

Chinese 5G is based and almost open source transparent if people tried.

You can use BALONG flasher and reflash your 5G modem to make it completely anonymous or even opensource depending on how much you can hack the balong chip but it's not locked in the bootload so you can literally do anything like change your IMEI but chink 5G isn't limited to just that, it's a perfectly functioning meshnet technology with high throughput.

It's so illegal in US to do that so the FCC had to step in and outright ban balong 5G technology. Why is 5G getting banned? Yes it's a useful tool for comms even local networks which can be used by dissident groups and cabal groups like Trump's or probably his lackeys who absolutely just HATE the chinese 5G spec don't want to happen. This just proves my insight that an imminent civil war is about to happen in land of free goys.

>>1064912

It's not limited to just lineage, you can use balong flasher on huawei phones or modems and replace every serial numbers and identifiers like IMEI.

With 5G out, you can even implement a mini meshnet right now but not on US where FCC will rat you out because they need to see what's going in your mini meshnet and jail or frame you for being a terrorist or pedo.


 No.1066661

>>1066658

>advocating for chink 5g

You need to explain why this is acceptable. The freedumbs 5g for clown land is literally cancer equivalent to a microwave oven.

What is the chinese 5g standard? I realise the NSA did the american 5g standard but yet banned the chinese? Why is that? Why wouldn't they just collaborate under the guide of (((mossad)))? Unless either america or china is rebelling against the kikes.


 No.1066662

>>1066661

If American 5G is enough to give cancer, I'd be absolutely fucking horrified to know what cheap bootleg trash the Chinese have hacked together and called 5G is like considering they still use lead paint.


 No.1066672

>>1066662

You are correct in your horror. But if what >>1066658 says is true then depending on the wavelengths the modem operates in it might be the best way to get a programmable radio to implement 3g/4g/lte on as free and open source/libre software. That's why it would be good to know what the chinese standards if any are for as to how it could be programmed or rather re-used.


 No.1066867

>>1066661

>What is the chinese 5g standard?

The same as any other chink standard. Absolute shit. Look up chinese steel.

>the NSA did the american 5g standard but yet banned the chinese? Why is that?

There is little point using 5g to spy on the nation if the nation is dead from cancer.

>Why wouldn't they just collaborate under the guide of (((mossad)))?

The chinks cannot be trusted.


 No.1066869

>>1064732

How dare Huawei intrude on Google's spy territory.


 No.1066971

>>1066869

See article related

>>1066175


 No.1067088

>>1066661

Most of the 5G patents were submitted by the Chinese hence the balong chip that is already on huawei mate 20x.

It's perfectly safe otherwise they'd kill their consumers and immediately lose the stock and anyone will avoid it even if they hand it to you for free but I don't know about US 5G which allegedly caused birds to fall down over Netherlands (Ericsson/Google 5G).

It's just one of those "russian nuclear bomb hackers" movies that your government mind programmed you that now you have an unclear veil about China and anything surrounding it. well, the latin of government is mind control

Clearly all this "bad spy lmao" farce was all just an embarrassing defensive reflex America made as China is currently steadily building every network infrastructure on surrounding countries with Huawei tech be it fiber or cell network and even phones which is a growing market.

The claims were meant to sabotage relationships with some expected countries or make un-huaweid countries doubt the company so the NSA or clowns could build the network infrastructure up which they couldn't do in the past few years in Asia and had to splice underwater cables themselves.

If I can put a label over this happening, it would be the Internet War.

Also, Huawei phones probably don't have NSA backdoors == thus the aggression.

>>1066867

>The same as any other chink standard. Absolute shit. Look up chinese steel.

It's just a screencap from a person who traveled and met less than 0.001% of the world

>>1066672

>it might be the best way to get a programmable radio to implement 3g/4g/lte on as free and open source/libre software.

5G is already a local network and has meshnet capabilities with its own but it's not FOSS otherwise someone would chink it.

It's still proprietary but that is due to the fact that its patent and the inner workings is intellectual property. If maybe, you can reverse engineer it and make it work like how GPU with blobbed open source drivers got reversed and now it's fully free open source. You can do the same, someone already hacked the SIM and SD card's CPU, if you can hack and understand the balong chip which chinks and russks were doing for years then you can make it happen.


 No.1069874

>>1064732

> Existing phones will still have the apps but users will not be able to upgrade to newer versions of the Android operating system.

Doesn't this mean that all Huawei phones are now obsoleted because they can no longer get security updates?

>Huawei can still use Android’s open-source alternative but it will not include Google’s own-brand apps such as Gmail.

That would actually be for the better, but the cattle will have a mental breakdown if things are not Google branded and look even slightly different.


 No.1069931

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 No.1069932

File: 5ea4c3375cee731⋯.jpg (136.18 KB, 1320x852, 110:71, Samsung-Z-Tizen-Hero.jpg)

Tizen was supposed to be the "if all goes wrong we can jump ship off Android" system, but Samsung was incompetent and half-hearted about it.


 No.1069943

>>1069932

No retard. The reason Samsung launched Tizen was because this was back when Android still ran all its apps in a Java VM and performance was trash. Samsung stopped giving a shit about Tizen after Android Runtime became a thing. It had nothing to do with "a way out" companies don't give a shit about that sort of thing


 No.1070034

>>1064756

yeah chinese phones and laptops are even worse than us products, they have the most intrusive shit imaginable. and having nsa on top isn't gonna make a real difference, their shit is already pozzed to high heaven.


 No.1070035

>>1065480

the russians are now selling them a fork of a finnish OS. china is pivoting to russia for all its tech needs, because the russians are able to create products that aren't just sloppy and half assed copies of western ones.


 No.1070038

>>1066209

i know you're just poking fun at them, but i sometimes think this is what they actually believe over there.


 No.1070121

The CFO of the company doesn't even use her own company's products. That should tell you something about them


 No.1070131

>>1070121

>The CFO of the company doesn't even use her own company's products. That should tell you something about them

means shit. Huawei makes cheap mass products, why would a millionaire use them?

If there was CFO of car manufacturer that only makes budget city cars, he wouldn't use such car but would buy premium luxury car from other manufacturer


 No.1070162

Good. Screw those yerrow bugs.


 No.1070169

>>1064732

>Huawei-made phones will not have access to apps such as Gmail, Google Maps and the Google Play store

So bloatfree phones- thanks google lmao


 No.1070261

>>1064732

good riddance! that was the shadiest company ever, had defeat software that made the phone lie on benchmark apps and their customer service was probably the most shameless, scammy and stingiest anyone outside of china has ever experienced, basically almost some "hello friend" style shit.

the only good thing was the camera, but that was made in germany. they are going to have to reboot their brand if they want to try and make it in the west.


 No.1070478

>>1064732

Oh look, a monopoly doing traditional monopoly things to another monopoly

neat


 No.1070568

>>1065384

China has No power over the West that the West hasn't handed to China.

What worker think has nothing to do with any of this.

If you know what's going on you'll know it's just been shit ass impossible for western corps to make a profit in china so fuck these gooks and let's leave.


 No.1070569

>>1070261

hua wei means to serve china, in chinese


 No.1070570

>>1066662

Banning lead paint was part of the prep process to irradiate us with 1g, 2g, 3g...


 No.1070678

File: b01b1d5287568e5⋯.jpg (58.43 KB, 929x864, 929:864, D2sTG1hX4AEvLIw.jpg)

>>1064754

tbh botnet from where you don't live is "better" than botnet from where you live. If you live in burgerland or under a burger occupied government you better use chinknet. If you live in chinkland or under a chink occupied government, then use burgernet. Best solution, don't use botnet at all.


 No.1070680

File: 2594e8ddf4f21f5⋯.jpg (964.62 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, dee19c0125db6a34b35de74235….jpg)

>>1065200

I dont give a fuck about literal chinese cartoons but I do think this is an excellent development nonetheless and that you are speaking your perceived truth. I have heard others whose qualifications have been demonstrated saying very much the same thing, they claim chinese 5g is not only the better product but that it is also a nightmare for the atlanticist surveillance state, and that it has the capability to be resistant to the chinese surveillance apparatus as well.

time will tell I guess but anything that moves us forwards towards a true mesh is welcomed


 No.1070683

>>1066261

nobody cares who discovered murica you fucking nigger, you brought it up, stop being a fucking hole. You are obviously more identitarian than him(or not as good at hiding it) and are contributing nothing to an important thread. Complain about specific content not length you illiterate downsie mongoloid, you have said nothing he has said a lot

>>1066867

go on /k and ask where you can get a quality knife for less than 300-400 dollars and they will begrudgingly send you to a chinese direct seller, go right now the knife thread is probably still up

The reality is the chiggers are now making classic budget trash as well as better quality products that are very competitive, they are saturating the market on all fronts


 No.1070773

>corporate drama we couldn't give the slightest fuck about

>dailystormer

>.name

KYS

KYS

KYS


 No.1071101

hello guys i'm from reddit how are you ? i have a samsung my next phone will be probably a huawei


 No.1071255

>>1064746

>>1064733

Lineage OS is the best option anyway. I don't want gmail and other google "services" spying on me.


 No.1071506

>Existing phones will still have the apps but users will not be able to upgrade to newer versions of the Android operating system.

You mean you can do that?

Meh, my old shit wouldn't handle it anyway.


 No.1071536

>>1066227

>using an American website

that is running an asian imageboard on servers built in asia so that you can phonepost with your made in asia handheld device. Wow, anon, you sure know how to make a great argument for the good old you ess of ay.


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 No.1071712

>>1071101

I already have four huawei phones. Each one different models.


 No.1071713

>>1070569

lolwut, nigger?


 No.1072029

>>1071712

this is me, why so many ? One phone is enough for me


 No.1072237

>>1064732

>Could this be a chance for a non-Google fork of Android to enter the mainstream market?

Why does everyone pretend to know about technology these days?

You don't even know what you're talking about. Just delete your thread and repost if and when you understand what I'm saying


 No.1072265

>>1072237

>"i know more about (some subject) than you do, therefore fuck you and kys"


 No.1072294

America didn’t block huawei because of chink spyware. America blocked huawei because huawei refused to install NSA spyware.


 No.1072388

>>1072294

Proof of your negative and your positive?


 No.1072481

>>1065502

Lmfao dude you are fucking retarded. Literally nothing you said has any basis in reality.


 No.1072889

>>1065200

i want to believe.




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