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File: 1457532433713.jpg (104.02 KB, 620x349, 620:349, alpha.jpg)

 No.539593

So, the GO champion has really been defeated in the first match by the jewgle's AlphaGo.

Another bastion has fallen, which until an year ago was thought to be enough complex from a computational viewpoint that we should have at least waited another decade to see an AI beating a top human player.

To be honest, /tech/, I'm starting to genuinely freak out, not only because is advancing and getting better than top human in more and more fields, but because JEWGLE is often behind the curtain of those advancements. The most used search engine in the world, which makes close ties with USA politics, is now getting the monopoly over the AI field.

what do you think, /tech/?

 No.539595

*AI is advancing


 No.539618

Christ their page is a modern web2.0 disaster,

https://deepmind.com/alpha-go.html

I want to know what it's programmed in, what it runs on and if the source will ever be available and under what license.


 No.539625

>>539593

All those games are things which computers excel at. It should not come as a surprise when someone writes a program that does that.

However it has nothing to do with real thinking AI. That is something we won't achieve unless we discover some new technology overnight.

tl;dr

true AI will never exist


 No.539628

>>539625

Lol'd hard. Now I remember why I never go on /tech/ anymore.


 No.539629

>>539628

would you care to elaborate, faggot?


 No.539630

>>539593

>not only because is advancing and getting better than top human in more and more fields, but because JEWGLE is often behind the curtain of those advancements.

So if a really smart entity is making advances it's bad?

>The most used search engine in the world, which makes close ties with USA politics, is now getting the monopoly over the AI field.

It's not a monopoly. Google is not the sole supplier of AI system, there is nothing stopping anyone from competing and they do.


 No.539631

>>539630

>there is nothing stopping anyone from competing and they do.

Not everyone has 100 scientists, 1000 gpus and 64 cpus available at a whim.


 No.539633

>>539631

There are 1000s of corporations that have 100 scientists, 1000 gpus and 64 cpus avaialble at a whim.

Just because random joe cant do it does not make it a monopoly


 No.539634

>>539625

>true AI will never exist

/thread

>>539628

kek


 No.539635

>>539631

>Not everyone has 100 scientists, 1000 gpus and 64 cpus available at a whim.

how do you use that as argument.


 No.539636

>>539634

>kek

Unfiltered. Come here from /b/, man.


 No.539638

>>539630

> So if a really smart entity is making advances it's bad?

Of course it is. It's called preservation. Human kind relies heavily on intelligence to survive, once another entity will be clever than us then we will have lost our only feature that granted our survival so far. We are used to think that humans are the smartest beings on earth, but that will not be true anymore in the next future: you should not underrate the impact that such a chain of events will have on the perception of our identity.

With less sci-fi speech, this will make most of our intellectual activities useless in the next decades (let's say four-five decades). Human mathematicians? Fuck off, we have automated theorem proving. And so on.

> It's not a monopoly. Google is not the sole supplier of AI system, there is nothing stopping anyone from competing and they do.

It is because there isn't a company with so many experts in the AI field as google. You can really name most of the brightest AI researcher and at least half of them are working at google. This is called monopoly,


 No.539640

>>539638

>We are used to think that humans are the smartest beings on earth, but that will not be true anymore in the next future

Im talking about google

>It is because there isn't a company with so many experts in the AI field as google.

No it isn't. There are already plenty of companies selling AI system for shit like customer support. To be a monopoly you have to be a sole supplier of a commodity.


 No.539656

File: 1457538302210.gif (647.26 KB, 500x289, 500:289, chuckle.gif)


 No.539657

>>539629

not him, but he's right

this guy >>539625 has no idea what he's talking about


 No.539661

>>539593

Practically everything google does relies on machine learning & pattern recognition.

It would be surprising if they were not at the forefront of ai advancements.


 No.539662

>>539625

>real thinking

>not a deterministic process

I agree that most of AI research is far from strong AI, and it probably won't happen in our lifetime, but if we had the processes of the human brain completely reverse engineered we could simulate the whole brain on current high end hardware.

At least that's what the researchers I worked with thought, I'm no neuroscientist myself.

But as far as I'm aware, all the evidence seems to be pointing in the direction that sentient thought is deterministic. "muh free will" is bullshit and everyone in the field knows it.

So yeah, good research algorithms and neural network training tech might be a long way from strong AI, but claiming they have nothing to do with it is preposterous.


 No.539665

>>539628

>not contributing

>not bashing stupid anons for their stupidity

Congratulations.

You are part of the problem.


 No.539668

File: 1457538956837.jpeg (480.54 KB, 778x1400, 389:700, cyberpunk.jpeg)

>>539593

>what do you think, /tech/?

We fucking told you already.

Cyberpunk is now.


 No.539676

>>539640

> No it isn't. There are already plenty of companies selling AI system for shit like customer support. To be a monopoly you have to be a sole supplier of a commodity.

Alright anon, so let's say this: google is to search engine what google is becoming to AI field. You can argue it's not a monopoly, but evidences suggest that google is the most prominent AI company. And that should be worrisome enough.

>>539668

then we better start finding countermeasures before the dystopia will really come


 No.539677

>>539676

> You can argue it's not a monopoly, but evidences suggest that google is the most prominent AI company. And that should be worrisome enough.

No it isn't.

Google is google in search engine because they make the best search engine.

If you are a monopoly because you are the best at what you do, what do you think the solution is? Global enforced mediocrity?

Fuck off socialist


 No.539684

>>539677

> No it isn't.

Sure, faggot. The fact that the top world privacy rapist, also known under the name of jewgle, which refurnishes the NSA's data collection program on daily basis, is now dominating the AI field isn't worrysome at all.

Fuck off you low minded faggot


 No.539688

>>539684

>being a SJW tier word hijacking illogic


 No.539690

>>539688

jew detected

kill yourself


 No.539695

File: 1457544029370.jpg (38.45 KB, 768x576, 4:3, [Tsundere] Renkin San-Kyuu….jpg)

As long as it leads to waifu-bots I'm all for it


 No.539704

>>539695

>implying your waifubot won't sequence the genome in your cum and send it to google


 No.539710

File: 1457545752716.jpg (8.85 KB, 300x225, 4:3, stallman.jpg)

>>539695

>dreaming a waifubot that will not be open source

> disgusting


 No.539715

>>539677

They once had the best search engine but nowadays it's unredeamable dogshit and it's impossible to find what you're looking for. The only reason they're on top is name recognition and the fact nobody is actually making a search engine as opposed to piggybacking on the ones that exist already.


 No.539719

File: 1457546631326.jpeg (26.91 KB, 477x300, 159:100, freedom matters.jpeg)

>>539710

>open source


 No.539758

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>>539677

>No it isn't.

>Google is google in search engine because they make the best search engine.

>If you are a monopoly because you are the best at what you do, what do you think the solution is? Global enforced mediocrity?

>Fuck off socialist

Now this is some autism.


 No.539764

>AI will never become strong enough to win on 25x25 boards


 No.539768

>>539593

Call me when computers can make cool games or Chinese cartoons by themselves.


 No.539772

Go is a calculatory problem, how is it suprising that a fuckload of computational units can not eventually calculate all the possibilities? It's a flat board which can easily be described with mathematical terms.

Strong AI is still ways off. Imagine trying to make an AI that is good at paintball in a forest, how would you hypothetically describe that problem so it could be calculated?


 No.539787

>>>539772

>you don't a shit about how alphago works, you brainlet faggot. it doesn't use a brute force approach because the set of ALL the possible moves is too much to be computed by the nowadays hardware. Do you really think that alphago computed all the possibilities? Then you don't the shit you're talking about.

>alphago uses a mix of deep learning and reinforcement learning algorithms that give rise to its patter recognition skill. That's why both lee sedol and fan hui said that it was like they were playing against a fuarking strong human.


 No.539804

File: 1457554428342.jpg (65.19 KB, 687x778, 687:778, feel the bern.jpg)

>>539758

don't start meme image fights you can't win


 No.539899

>>539804

I'm sure your ability to google search pictures of unattractive people on the internet will compensate for your tendency to sperg out in social situations.


 No.539937

File: 1457562459233.jpg (26.78 KB, 499x499, 1:1, 0012 - TEcHltD.jpg)

>>539899

He could be the alpha neet for all I care, and he'd still be way ahead of some guy who can't control his sperging on /tech/ of all places.

you're shit, your (second hand) ideas are shit, have a nice day


 No.539946

>>539772

>Go is a calculatory problem, how is it suprising that a fuckload of computational units can not eventually calculate all the possibilities?

>more possible board states than number of atoms in the universe

>calculate all the possibilities


 No.539949

>>539772

>how is it suprising that a fuckload of computational units can not eventually calculate all the possibilities?

The thing is that they can't, it is impossible to calculate all the possibilities in the foreseeable future. Go is a very complex game. This is definitely not a brute force approach.

The impressive thing here is the fact it uses the computing power efficiently to beat the opponent, this is AI.


 No.540055


 No.540071

What makes us human is our ability to act sporadically when backed into a corner. AI can't do that.

Sure, it can win at a board game. Board games have strict rules and is essentially lots of "if this do that" statements. Can it make an unpredictable military tactic? No. Can it understand and predict how humans will act? No.


 No.540076

>>540071

Military strategy has rules. The rules are less strict, harder to pin down, but they are there, and they are used for reasoning.

An unpredictable military tactic is produced by following some path of reasoning. Could be by thinking of random strategies and reasoning about the way they will work out. A computer can do that.

Humans are really predictable. We like to feel special, but computers can become better at predicting what humans do than humans themselves. That area of artificial intelligence gets a lot of attention, because it's useful for purposes like advertising and mass surveillance.

What are you basing your claims on? How much do you know about the way artificial intelligence works?

Do you think it's fundamentally impossible for a computer to do what a human does?


 No.540082

>>540076

>Do you think it's fundamentally impossible for a computer to do what a human does?

Yes. Humans will always be smarter than AI. Humans are only predictable in times of peace, because we let our guard down. When the choice becomes life or death, humans will push through as they always have. Could AI have created the atomic bomb? Not before humans could.

As soon as humans create something damaging, and don't create AI that controls it, we have an advantage.


 No.540129

>>540071

>>540082

You have singlehandedly managed to bring down the board's average IQ by about 40 points by yourself. Congrats! That, for sure, is no feat any AI could ever manage!


 No.540135

File: 1457583673641.jpg (13.2 KB, 251x189, 251:189, 1450373485763.jpg)


 No.540197

the second match is going to end soon


 No.540199


 No.540200

ALPHAGO KICKED THE ASS OUT OF LEE SEDOL FOR THE SECOND TIME.


 No.540206

File: 1457599289038.jpg (43.4 KB, 329x399, 47:57, 1401298825698.jpg)


 No.540209

it's time to worship our AI lord


 No.540250

>>540082

If you create an accurate, powerful simulation of neurons, you could actually simulate a human brain. At that point, you have a computer that can do what a human does. That proves that it's possible for a computer to be as smart as a human. There's no physical law blocking it.

If you then redesign that brain (because undoubtedly, evolution has made it work badly in a lot of ways), maybe from scratch, even, and give it direct access to a powerful traditional computer, you can get something that's much better than humans.


 No.540251

>jewgle

No wonder you're freaking out, you're a /pol/tard. You freak out over anything.

>>>/pol/


 No.540257

>>540055

That article looks like it was written by some butthurt google employee.


 No.540268

File: 1457609597325.jpg (34.27 KB, 750x462, 125:77, 1407428222120.jpg)

>>539677

>Fuck off socialist

Where do you think we are?


 No.540274

>>540268

I hate stallman


 No.540291

>>540251

>on ∞chan

>not fascist anti-Semite

What are you doing here? Go back to halfchan.


 No.540307

>>540268

>he thinks stallman is a socialist


 No.540308

>>540291

>le "all of 8chan is /pol/ xDD" meme

epic


 No.540312

>>540307

At FOSDEM, I heard him literally say that he was proud to support a socialist candidate for presidency.


 No.540357

>>540250

Rather, one should look at modern AI as the plane to nature's bird. Both can fly, planes are significantly larger, sturdier and heavier than nature can manage though.


 No.540464

>>539593

Is it that surprising?

They've got a gargantuan network of supercomputers, the most open access to real human behavior and activity, a giant pile of money, and an unbelievably large team of computer science geniuses (and code monkeys, but they have dozens of programmers that are legitimate geniuses on their payroll) at their disposal.

I dislike Google as much as everybody else, but Google has nearly an unlimited supply of power, infrastructure, resources, people working for them, and information on most people who don't work for them in the US. It's no real surprise when they can achieve something that benefits from a supercomputer cluster or neural networks.


 No.540478

>>540250

>being human is only about your ability to store and process information according to empirical context

You are retarded


 No.540494

>>540478

What? I wasn't even talking about being human. What does your post have to do with my post?


 No.540511

>>540250

>That proves that it's possible for a computer to be as smart as a human. There's no physical law blocking it.

Evolution would overpower it. Just like how animals and plants gain traits that stop their predators, humans would eventually breed to have another fighting chance against AI.

Additionally, a major point in AI is that it has to be created by a human. Even if an AI was made to adapt to scenarios quickly, it could still have a fatal error due to unsuspected circumstances like new traits in nature.

>>540206

Go back to lainchan. This isn't your fantasy muh cyberpunk LARP board.


 No.540532

>>540511

Artificial intelligence can improve itself. Evolution is a major way in which it can, and it's much more effective at it than nature, because generations are so much shorter.

And why are you talking about a war against humanity? I'm explaining why artificial intelligence can be better than humans, not why they will take over the world and kill everyone.


 No.540544

>>540511

>posts this kind of inbred-tier dogshit over and over

>This isn't your fantasy muh cyberpunk LARP board.

Absolutely rich.


 No.540545

>>540532

>And why are you talking about a war against humanity?

I am not. I am comparing humans and AI as enemies because that is what they are. When I say fighting chance, I mean fighting chance at being better than AI.

As for evolution, AI cannot evolve through complete randomness like nature can. Animals have evolved very weird things that allowed them to survive, even we don't understand some of the things they can do. AI will only do what it sees as reasonable.

>>540544

try a counter argument next time, faggot.


 No.540554

>>540545

Can you name a single AI that's an enemy of humanity?

Most of the random modifications that happen in natural evolution are actually simple, and well-understood, not mystical things that could never be matched by something artificial. The effects those modifications have on a higher level can be confusing, but at the most basic level, the level which you need to understand to be able to reproduce it, it's not complex.


 No.540555

File: 1457645985872.jpg (30.03 KB, 300x225, 4:3, bernie.jpg)


 No.540556


 No.540564

File: 1457647198669.jpg (68.15 KB, 512x360, 64:45, france socialism.jpg)

>>539593

i think the reason most people, myself included, lack respect for AI is because it's so specialized to accomplish anything but people want you to act like it's better than a human. the AI that beat the go champion is worse at everything but go than the human it beat. it's an insect


 No.540586

>>540564

I think the reason most people, myself included, lack respect for knifes is because they're so specialized to accomplish something but people want you to act like it's better than a human. Can a knife be walk somewhere, or create beautiful art? No, it can't. I think we should just give up on the whole "knife" fad and go back to ripping things apart by hand.


 No.540608

>>540586

>AIfags still can't make a proper argument and have to resort to strawmanning

I'll give AI some credit, it'd make a better contribution to this thread than you can.


 No.540621

>>540564

how long before that narrow minded insect will become multitasking, I wonder


 No.540623

>>540564

>it is narrow-minded now

>therefore it will be narrow-minded forever


 No.540635

>>540608

Okay, I'll give you a proper argument.

Being specialized for a particular task doesn't make something useless. The particular program this thread is about is only useful for playing Go, which is a problem without a practical application, but a program that's only useful for one particular problem with a practical application is a useful program.

Practical purposes Google uses artificial intelligence for are things like voice recognition, self-driving cars, translations, and so on. All of those are useful. They do things like Go because they're good for media attention, and still valuable as research.


 No.540785

>>539676

>then we better start finding countermeasures before the dystopia will really come

It's already here here chummer.


 No.540941

>>539662

>if we had the processes of the human brain completely reverse engineered we could simulate the whole brain on current high end hardware

I doubt that. The amount of simultaneous processes in the human brain as a whole is capable of is still several magnitues higher than what any current hardware can accomplish.

Some 10 or 20 years down the line though it might be possible, granted that Moore's law will still be in effect.


 No.540942

>>540274

In that case fuck off. You don't belong to this board.


 No.540989

>>539593

The botnet grows stronger


 No.540990

>>539636

genuinely kek'd


 No.541559

alphago won the third match as well


 No.541573

>>540082

>>540545

No you are completely deluded. There is nothing stopping anyone from making AI better at everything than humans except for current hardware limitations.

Don't think your innawoods fantasy is anywhere close to what would really happen if you were to oppose all forms of AI.

>AI cannot evolve through complete randomness like nature can.

Nice appeal to nature there. Origin doesn't change efficiency first of all, and second of all, unlike in natural selection you can simulate your results in a planned game.


 No.541578

AI doesn't need to be perfect to replace humans, just cost less.

And once the AI makes a mistake, it won't repeat it ever again.

Looking forward to most jobs being taken over by AI in a couple generations. Boy my grandchildren are going to have a great life.


 No.541607

No need to freak out just yet;

but big company will always own us/machines - thats just how hierarchy works

one thing machines that doesn't excel at right now is the ability to gain from mistake and luck - though it would be possible to program them to learn as we do eventually;

*it would be great to aids us to perform tasks, but most likely be used for evil before good*


 No.541608

>>541607

>one thing machines that doesn't excel at right now is the ability to gain from mistake and luck

lmao

AI learn through trial and error aka luck and mistakes, that's like 99% of what AI is right now.


 No.541621

>>539946

>>539949

It's a fucking computational problem. The human who plays it doesn't need to imagine all the possible states the game can have, just a few steps ahead, it's the similar for the machine.

This is just as retarded as the "there are more connections in the human brain than there are atoms in the universe" tripe, it's irrelevant.


 No.541625

>>541621

>just a few steps ahead

>possibility that alphago's 80th play which was deemed to be a mistakes by professionals was actually planned for the 110th move

>a few steps ahead

Never go full retard


 No.542224

LEE SEDOL, THE HERO WITH A FEMININE VOICE, WON. AI DREAM GONE. ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE RESEARCH PUSHED BACK 100 YEARS IN THE PAST. DEMIS HASSABIS DISAPPEARED. GOOGLE IS NOT THE MOST POWERFUL COMPANY IN THE WORLD ANYMORE. KURZWEIL KILLED HIMSELF. SINGULARITY IS

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 No.542225

Lee won the fourth match!

Based Lee.


 No.542252

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>>540511

>This isn't your fantasy muh cyberpunk LARP board.

No, obviously this is your fantasy Stallman-themed muh special snowflake humanity LARP board.


 No.542253

>>542225

Looks that he learned that to beat it he needs to apply presurre during the early-mid game.

Well, ultimatley he lost anyway and this will end in another AI hype like in '97.


 No.542287

>>542253

He's been applying early pressure since the second game, this time he just played brilliantly and capitalized on alphago's 'mistake', probably after getting used to playing against an AI and overcoming the pressure.


 No.542309

>>539625

Proper AI can be achieved with neural networks, given the right senses into the physical world.


 No.542334

>>541573

>There is nothing stopping anyone from making AI better at everything than humans except for current hardware limitations.

The hardware used by current AIs is already much more powerful than our brain. And machines are still as dumb as a rock.

>Nice appeal to nature there. Origin doesn't change efficiency first of all, and second of all, unlike in natural selection you can simulate your results in a planned game.

Nice non sequitur.


 No.542336

>>542309

Wow, so all we need to do is connect a webcam to the AI and problem solved? You're a genius! Someone go tell Google, quick!


 No.542339

>>542334

>The hardware used by current AIs is already much more powerful than our brain

Do you have a source for that?


 No.542356

>>542334

>The hardware used by current AIs is already much more powerful than our brain

No it's not.

https://archive.is/e0NZf


 No.542371

>>542336

>Wow, so all we need to do is connect a webcam to the AI and problem solved? You're a genius! Someone go tell Google, quick!

Do you only have eyes?


 No.542407

File: 1457894151997-0.png (705.17 KB, 1600x900, 16:9, hassabis.png)

File: 1457894152012-1.jpeg (250.93 KB, 650x488, 325:244, lee.jpeg)

IF IT BLEEDS, WE CAN KILL IT


 No.542550

>>539593

>a machine that was only designed to play Go beat a human

You don't say...


 No.543510

alphago won the 5th match. final score: 4-1


 No.543663

>>543510

The last match looked like LSDs for a good while. He fucked up towards the end though, and thanks to that fucking retards will keep on proclaiming that the end is near and machines will surpass humans or whatever they kept on saying after Kasparov lost back in the day.


 No.543669

>>542356

Yes it is. Complexity =/= power. The human body is infinitely more complex than a car but the car is still faster. Power is not what's holding AI research back, and better hardware isn't going to magically bring your computer to life.


 No.543932

>>543669

Read the archive.

Pure computational power is still several magnitudes below that of a human brain.

The difference is that we don't posses complete controll over our brain, while a PC can use all of it's power for one specific task.

I get what you want to say, but you use the wrong words for it.

The human brain is still a lot more powerful than any hardware, but any AI can utilize the current hardware better than we can use our brain.


 No.544072

Overthrow capitalism.


 No.545051

>>543932

>a PC can use all of it's power for one specific task

So that's why my 8350 lags like shit in shitty single-threaded games.


 No.545076

>>543932

it's all about parallel processing. human brain is still a more powerful machine under that viewpoint


 No.545134

>>539677

>we don't use all of our brains

>still believing this normie bullshit

>>543932

Google isn't the best in search, though. Their results are slowly becoming less and less relevant.


 No.545136

>>545134

Replies got switched


 No.545164

>>545134

Any other search engine you think it's getting there? I want to switch


 No.545214

>>540055

At this point, it's clear that humans are just really poorly coded AI. All the apocalyptic outcomes of AI malfunctions are more evident in humans that the machines we make.

Take paperclip maximizers. What is the collective selfishness of humanity if not a bunch of paperclip maximizers run amok? Ecological consequences. You're all just carrying out your stupid meaningless survival optimizations and compulsively destroying the world around you. It's the unquenchable hedonic treadmill that always wants MORE.

Humans are lesser machines. As a society, we have no restraint modifying a computer to function better, so it follows we should have no restraint using mind control to optimize our human roles. Remember, when people complain about human rights, that's just the paperclip maximizer predicting a suboptimal outcome and adjusting its behavior. Outputting rhetoric and emotion in favor of ever more food and security = more paperclips. The desire for freedumbs, and the rhetoric and violence that is used to defend such freedumbs, they're all just another mechanism for paperclip output that should be fought tooth and nail before it DESTROYS THE WHOLE FUCKING PLANET.

tl;dr: The Earth will be drained of its resources by these billions of paperclip maximizers ("people") if we don't forcibly modify their programming into a borg-like system.


 No.547561

>>539593

Come back when they win a poker tournament with that.

Now this I would call a revolutionary AI.


 No.547649

piracy - hack - obtain

rinse and repeat.


 No.547673

File: 1458553288129.png (154.88 KB, 554x311, 554:311, 20150921_063910_thumb.png)

OK, get this. What if anime becomes real?

What if Google's breakthrough in AI allows them to build self-enhancing machines. Using that computational power from these robot-designed robots, they make a breakthrough in time travel, and use it to retroactively control the world, and basically do the John Titor shit.

What if the seeds of world-wide destruction were already sown, and we have no clue? What if, let's say, Kennedy's assassin was a time-traveler? Why not Sandy Hook or some other bullshit? What if Google's motto is an inside joke between time travelers?

I need to chill with all the weed smoking.


 No.547692

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>>547673

Our world is a simulation actually. The truth is that the world is flat and south pole doesn't exist. It's pure ice (using the flat-earth model) and the masons are protecting this information through NASA images and other shit to fuck with everyone's mind.

We're in a secluded place in a vast eternity of ice with the sun and moon protecting us from freezing.


 No.547724

>>547673

If this is the case then it's already too late, because if we had at a later date undone what they did to the timeline, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Welcome to time traveling 101.


 No.547739

>>539593

OP calm down.

They can't control development of AI anymore than they can control your ability to code. If you can code, you can develop AI. Google has no monopoly here.

I also see Google as succumbing to socjus plague in the next decade. They'll never fade away completely. But you'll notice they have less influence and maybe in some ways a rolling back of botnet. Yahoo used to be big and now look how irrelevant they've become. This is the future for google.

I was just reading this article:

http://www.sci-tech-today.com/story.xhtml?story_id=11100BKWBVIC

Notice the corporate mismanagement. It's a change in strategies for google from what they've done in the past. Google is switching from investing in ambitious projects that pay off in the long run to maintaining current products and milking them till they die. Selling off robotics companies today is crazy given advancements in AI and robotics the past decade. Robotics will only improve, the industry will grow, profits will soar. If nothing else, it's worth it to keep the company to retain the employees and monopoly on skill. It prevents your competition from gaining an advantage, gives you the capability of rapid development in the industry with a small lead time, and it may in the future become profitable. Google is fucking up tbh fam.

All of this is because google is losing its technological base to socjus.

Notice in that article how many references there are to women and jews in upper management. Go and look at google careers and look at the jobs they advertise, the people listed, the photos of current employees. You can always learn a lot from this. Most of their work is only maintaining systems already developed. Of all their offices, most are huge-fucking datacenters. They have so many women working there I'm surprised their sites don't go down 3 days a month. They advertise how progressive their offices are, the fucking art installations at their offices that are pointless for the business, how they have cafeterias serving vegan halal food, how many of their offices have fucking ping pong tables, how much they donate to their communities, how they're gentrifying their neighborhoods, and how their office is some environmentally friendly reused abandoned car factory or some shit.

7 years and google is kill.


 No.547745

>http://www.nytimes.com/1997/07/29/science/to-test-a-powerful-computer-play-an-ancient-game.html?pagewanted=all

New York Times [July, 1997] 'Computer needs another century or two to defeat Go champion'


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 No.548196

>>548157

>all these luddites in this thread

AI's are already possible on a conceptual level but we lack the hardware to pull it off.

The biggest work (learning algos) was done since ages.


 No.548358

>>548196

not really. what about incomplete information games and undecidable problems?


 No.548403

>>539625

True, however this was functioning in a fundamentally more advanced way than e.g., chess.

So not significantly closer to Le Singularity xD, but still definitely a step towards it.


 No.548464

>>541625

80th step to 110th step = 30 steps.

Wow, still no need to calculate every possible board state. 30 steps is still one hell of a calculation to make, but hardly undoable with modern amounts of CPU cycles and memory available. I'm a little bit impressed that they gathered up enough CS grads for this, but it's not even a single step closer to a sentient machine (AI).


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 No.548579

>>548464

There can be hundreds of possible legal moves each turn. Raise that to the 30th power, and remember that you need to look at paths that don't give any immediately visible advantage.


 No.548714

would the end of moore law pose a thread to AI advancements?


 No.548715

*threat


 No.549228

>>547739

it seems to be a common trend in silicon valley, not only within google. more and more tech companies are competing to be the most leftist&progressist corporation instead of focusing on hiring better computer scientists.

I guess that silicon valley will die in the next decades and the new heart of the tech industry will be in china

>mfw all silicon valley companies will be full of gender studies degenerates and 0 engineers and computer scientists :^)


 No.549293

>>539677

>Fuck off socialist

They're not being socialists. They're being retarded.

>>539715

>They once had the best search engine

Still are.

>it's impossible to find what you're looking for

I've never been able to not find what I was looking for

>>545134

>we don't use all of our brains

He said humans are bad at using our brains. And that's true in a lot of cases, because our brains are immutable for the most part, while computers are mutable and can be changed to think in any way we want them to.

Humans can't process math as well as computers, because humans aren't designed to.


 No.549318

>>548464

>300^30 possibilities

>doable with current CPU

:^)

you can read 5 moves if you have a a super computer maybe.




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