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File: 1457717455076.png (419.16 KB, 799x807, 799:807, Advance2_tails-2-.png)

 No.541080


Mar 11 16:52:29 * Now talking on #tails
Mar 11 16:52:29 * Topic for #tails is: Welcome to #tails, the discussion channel about Tails usage | Current: 2.2 | Website: https://tails.boum.org/ | If the website has no answer to your question: ask here and wait, it may take a while. | To upgrade to Tails 2.2: https://tails.boum.org/news/version_2.2/ | Roadmap: https://labs.riseup.net/code/projects/tails/roadmap/
Mar 11 16:52:29 * Topic for #tails set by anonym!~anonym@vps766.greenhost.nl (Tue Mar 8 18:47:26 2016)
Mar 11 16:52:31 <anya> hello
Mar 11 16:52:34 <anya> I have a problem with tails :(
Mar 11 16:52:47 <anya> would anyone like to help me?
Mar 11 16:53:01 <edne> girls and computers :)
Mar 11 16:54:09 <dkg> edne: that's not appropriate. please don't rely on gendered stereotypes.
Mar 11 16:54:12 <emmapeel> edne: please refrain from such gendered comments :)
Mar 11 16:54:15 <emmapeel> hehehe
Mar 11 16:54:30 <emmapeel> anya: explain the problem and wait a bit
Mar 11 16:54:32 <dkg> anya: sure, please ask away. on IRC, it's best to go ahead and ask your question right away, instead of "asking to ask"
Mar 11 16:54:35 <anya> Thanks
Mar 11 16:54:42 <anya> I can not download the ISO to use in a VM
Mar 11 16:55:06 <anya> I don't want to use torrent and expose my IP to the swarm
Mar 11 16:55:14 <anya> I don't want to install some weird browser extension
Mar 11 16:55:17 <edne> dkg: you are negative and prejudging. I was happy to see these two in conjuction
Mar 11 16:55:25 <emmapeel> i download it from the command line with wget -c
Mar 11 16:55:34 <emmapeel> (continue)
Mar 11 16:55:35 <anya> How can I find the URL to wget it?
Mar 11 16:55:54 <emmapeel> you can use the firefox add-on to download it too
Mar 11 16:56:14 <edne> anya: http://dl.amnesia.boum.org/tails/stable/tails-i386-2.2/
Mar 11 16:56:47 <dkg> edne: i'm just responding to what seems to be the simplest way to read your remark. clearly, emmapeel read it the same way that i did. If that's not how you meant it, you need to think more clearly about how other people will interpret the things that you say. I'm done with this part of the conversation now.
Mar 11 16:56:52 <dkg> edne: thanks for giving the link :)
Mar 11 16:58:31 <dkg> emmapeel: is there a reason that this link isn't present on https://tails.boum.org/install/win/usb/index.en.html ?
Mar 11 16:59:15 <anya> thank you
Mar 11 16:59:22 <edne> dkg: that is the wrong page, the link is sopposed to be 1-2 pages (clicks) before
Mar 11 17:00:00 <emmapeel> yes indeed there is a reason... let me see
Mar 11 17:00:26 <dkg> edne: i'm just looking at the step that says "Download and Verify the Tails ISO Image", which seems like a natural place for it
Mar 11 17:00:27 <edne> this page was a good place https://tails.boum.org/install/index.en.html
Mar 11 17:00:49 <emmapeel> https://mailman.boum.org/pipermail/tails-support/2016-March/000334.html
Mar 11 17:01:00 <edne> even better was a download menu item on the main page
Mar 11 17:01:00 <emmapeel> "We want to avoid shortcuts that make it easier to download without
Mar 11 17:01:00 <emmapeel> verifying the ISO image. We believe this brings more security to our
Mar 11 17:01:00 <emmapeel> users and also reduce our user support load. So no, we won't do this.
Mar 11 17:01:02 <emmapeel> "
Mar 11 17:01:37 <dkg> interesting, thanks
Mar 11 17:02:07 <edne> the usual approach nowadays: always expect the "dumbest assumable user" :(

rest: http://pastebin.com/TMdde7zZ

 No.541093

Gendered comments are what's wrong with the internet. Not the pervasive, illegal spying by governments or the abusive practices of corporations who are literally building a global surveillance network that can track you by photos your friends post.

Gendered comments. What a time to be alive.


 No.541095

File: 1457719050380.jpg (83.36 KB, 462x544, 231:272, yotsuba manga strapping on….jpg)

>being a SJW

>not reading the fucking manual

>not verifying the signature

>not saving a FOSS project money by using bittorrent (this is basically theft)

>not googling it

you brought this on yourself


 No.541098

it's a shame people see tor/tails and use it as a opportunity to try to make themselves feel elite and smarter than people with shitty clever comments like "live in ignorance :P see if I care". This guy must be a really super smart security expert! Not..

Don't they realize that we're all in this mess getting ass-raped together?

I have no idea what the other guys game is. Step 1. Make awesome privacy enhancing system. Step 2. be a dick to anyone that tries to use it.


 No.541099

The concept of gender does not exist on the internet. Those who pretend it does are normalfag noobs, most of which are teenage girls and sissies with hormone problems having sexual identity crisis. That's also what SJW is.

>There are no girls on the internet.

t. rules of internet

also:

>not technology


 No.541100

Just download it here /thread

https://tails.boum.org/download/


 No.541119

Just upgraded to 2.2 stable. My question is what happened to the icon at the top to let the user know that Tor is connected? I opened the Tor browser and checked the browser which shows it is configured to Tor.

Also, why use persistant volume when it can be seen by anyone if they were able to get a hold of the disk/usb?


 No.541123

These people literally made a browser add-on to download the ISO and verify it with a checksum.

Is it so hard to wget it and compare the checksum with sha256sum?

Why is everyone there pandering to retards? And why are there SJWs there? Is the Tor Project going down the drain?

If you are so lazy that you can't do something as basic as verifying a checksum to verify the authenticity of something you downloaded, no amount of proxies or whatever-the-fuck will keep you safe.

I'm tired of developers assuming that their users are retarded, but then again, they're probably right considering the amount of misinformation and retardation I see anytime the subject of Tor and privacy is brought up.


 No.541125

>>541123

>>541119 proves my point. The persistent volume is encrypted, you would know this if you read the docs or knew how to use a computer. That "icon" that used to be there was Vidalia which was replaced with something even shittier. They could have used tor-arm which replaced Vidalia but they probably thought the terminal is too scary for the users and decided to reinvent the wheel.


 No.541133

>541125

Point taken.

Stop being an elitist dick, por favor.


 No.541134

>>541123

and by doing so they've made things less secure because now people are supposed to trust browser add-ons.


 No.541135

>>541133

stop elite-shaming.

Have you ever tried being an elitist prick, and then trying to stop being one for a while? It's fucking hard. How about you just deal with >>541125 being elitist?


 No.541138

>>541135

this.

elitist-shaming isn't appropiate, please don't rely elitist stereotypes and try refraining from such comments in the future. how do *you* _know_ ALL elitists are dicks? people like you are the reason why others aren't using tor and caring about privacy. stop being negative and prejudging. thanks and have a nice day :P


 No.541140

Ugh, will someone please ban the trolls and set this board to +i please?


 No.541167

>>541140

>someone

UGH please don't use individualized pronouns, some of us have multiple headmates.


 No.541172

>>541140

AUGH! IGNORANT!


 No.541176

File: 1457728425804.jpg (516.39 KB, 1200x900, 4:3, blog-quote-share-mc.jpg)


 No.541177

>>541176

"In response to input, I added a phrase under “Unacceptable Behavior” concerning willfully making false allegations against a fellow community member."

This is the foundation of the CoC craze. You define any criticism (no matter how valid) against you as 'false' or 'harassing' and use the CoC as a shield as you ban them from the community.


 No.541193

>>541176

==The Tor Project is dead.=

Mass adoption of I2P when?


 No.541242

>>541193

> he doesn't know about the fact i2p just got a CoC forced weeks ago

I would screenshot the developer thread but I uninstalled it!


 No.541358

>>541242

Most of the eep site owners are easily triggered faggots so this isn't surprising. I was going to upload a history torrent on the tracker website, forget the name, and it got taken down for "holocaust denial" Despite being mostly primary documentation and analysis from well known historians.

Fuck them.


 No.541361

>>541193

They're for two totally seperate use cases, your retarded spastic.


 No.541370

>>541358

>anticensorship anonymity network

>>>>>>>removed shit for holocaust denial

hahahaha wow


 No.541372

>>541370

That's exactly what I thought. May as well just go to thepiratebay


 No.541396

Is there a single anonymity network or group that doesn't give a fuck about SJW crap or any politics at all and just wants to make good technology?


 No.541398

>>541358

Tor is shit, I2P is shit, Freenet is compromised. Is anything safe anymore? Will SJWs and LE ever fuck off?


 No.541399

>>541396

Now that you mention it this seems weird to me. Isn't it SJWs who try to kill anonymity and try to make people use their real names online?


 No.541401

>>541396

No. Why don't we make our own network?


 No.541409

>>541399

>Now that you mention it this seems weird to me. Isn't it SJWs who try to kill anonymity and try to make people use their real names online?

For others, yes, for themselves, fuck no.

Check your privacy privilege you anonymice! But don't you dare deadname my misgendered oppressed-kin birth cis slave name!


 No.541419

I've noticed this with other open source projects. Are "gendered pronouns" that big of a deal? How would they live if they used a language with gendered objects? Why is saying "he" so difficult?

People who sit in open source IRCs usually act like dicks, but have good intention.


 No.541893

>>541419

>Why is saying "he" so difficult?

its because they're trannies, not actual women.

Saying he makes them want to kill themselves.


 No.541907

>>541893

I would have thought it was more just that they think that rewriting everything to be feminine is a way to make things "equal", in some strange warped logic of theirs.


 No.545657

I was gonna ask.

The new site was confusing me and I wasn't sure if it was legit and they make it a pain to find the download.


 No.545660

>>541419

I'm seeing this shit a lot lately.

Just an example: "Nessun*" which is "nobody" in Italian, with the * to avoid gendering it (defaults to "nessuno", which is male, female case would be "nessuna"), since the language doesn't have a "neutral" case like "it".

That's how they live with it.

>>541125

>encrypted persistent volume

Still defeats the purpose a bit. Assuming, as always, that no encryption is unbreakable - then again if you're storing sensitive/potentially harmful data on a fucking USB stick with Tails on it you're retarded and deserve what you get.


 No.545664

>>545660

Wait, are you seeing that happen in Italy?

Even Italy has it's own SJWs who keep making up bullshit like that specific to the language?


 No.545669

>>545664

Yeah. Luckily it's not widespread (yet) - mostly from lgbtqwtfbbq+ activists, psychology majors, radical lefties - but it *is* happening. It's niche, so far, but it's there.

Obviously they're the same ones running the "islamophobia", "queerphobic", [whatever]-"phobic" intimidation rings, the Jenner/Wachowski cases brought them out of the woodworks a bit and now we're getting weak attempts at pushing the "equality in STEM!" angles (which no one believes, but apparently universities get some kind of grant money/credits for related projects so) even though there really isn't any issue (majority of females in my university are in Enviromental Sciences, but there are a lot of chemistry majors and quite a few in CS too. And most are quite fucking competent too.

Pajeets, sandniggers and niggers in MSc CS though are a fucking nightmare and are only there to pad student numbers, 90% can't code for shit and there are people who get there without ever touching a *NIX shell or doing fucking SSH in 3+ years of undergrad. I've seen people complaining that man [thing] is too hard.)


 No.545834

File: 1458323301884.png (27.38 KB, 234x347, 234:347, donkey_kong_3.png)

>>545669

>man [thing] is too hard.


 No.545875

>>541398

Eventually. As I see it, in a few years they'll all be using IOS and Droid Tablets/Phones, cause a big split between the two, and then won't bug us computer users anymore.


 No.548425

>>541080

>Mar 11 16:53:01 <edne> girls and computers :)

>Mar 11 16:54:09 <dkg> edne: that's not appropriate. please don't rely on gendered stereotypes.

>Mar 11 16:54:12 <emmapeel> edne: please refrain from such gendered comments :)

I am 100% behind this. It makes no difference that you're a girl, stop attention whoring. The IRC responded in the right way.

It's the same thing as with 4chan and "tits or gtfo", but a little less radical.


 No.548555

Both were wrong. Girl shouldn't have attention whored on an usually all male chatroom, and the moderators could have just said "less insult and more action please" without bringing up SJW discourse.


 No.548558

>>541193

>implying tor is dead because femashit's support it

Even if they push commit's it's still just as secure even if pronouns are removed. Seriously, Not that a big a deal.

But yeah i2p mustardrace. Only thing it's missing is an easy way to view the clearnet.


 No.548563

>>548425


Mar 11 16:52:31 <anya> hello
Mar 11 16:52:34 <anya> I have a problem with tails :(
Mar 11 16:52:47 <anya> would anyone like to help me?
Mar 11 16:53:01 <edne> girls and computers :)

She wasn't attention-whoring, someone else said that.


 No.548566

>>541100

redirects to /install.

Complete shite, use Qubes/whonix


 No.548569

>>541358

>>541370

The PROTOCOL is designed to be censorship-resistant. Not the people. Make your own eepsite if you want to host whatever you like.


 No.548611

>>545660

>Just an example: "Nessun*" which is "nobody" in Italian, with the * to avoid gendering it (defaults to "nessuno", which is male, female case would be "nessuna"), since the language doesn't have a "neutral" case like "it"

I'm Spanish, and this shit is happening here too. Your example would end up either as "nessunx" or "nessune" if we had the same SJW trying to rape the language, or "ningunx" or "ningune" if we were to translate the word (which should be "ninguno" or "ninguna" for male and female forms, respectively).

Some also try to use '@' to replace the gender morpheme, but now it's seen as some sort of "how do you do fellow kids?" sort of thing, since it was exploited fairly hard by several commercial campaigns targeted at children and teenagers back in the 2000s. It also neglects third genders and other shit like that, I guess.

I'm taking these kicks to the dictionary with humour, though. I often love to joke about "your texts must have this density of x to join this secret SJW club", or how gendered morphemes are a tool of the patriarchy but deep down I am actually suffering at these stupidities.


 No.548627

>>548566

Direct Download: http://dl.amnesia.boum.org/

Nightly Builds: http://nightly.tails.boum.org/

I can't find the fucking checksums though.


 No.548649

>>548611

Yep, in languages that do have a gender, the SJWs just call FUCK THE POLICE and proceed to mangle it.

That said, I haven't seen any SJW defend English as a progressive, inclusive, largely gender-neutral language. I guess English being the language of FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY makes them uncomfortable and they just avoid it.

SJWs in Mexico are a fucking joke anywhere outside of Mexico City. Only problem is, Mexico City is the seat of all the money and power in this country because Mexico is centralist as all fuck, so even if Guadalajara and Monterrey don't listen to the SJWs, they will eventually work their way into the rest of the country because everything the filthy and trashy chilangos do is what the rest of the country is supposed to do.




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