/tech/ - Technology

It is botnet. Not a long ago it used to automatically download a microphone blog. It was an "error".

just leave it alone for fucks sake. its like playing with fire. i dont get why so many people constantly dance on the edge of botnet.

It is a botnet. If you want to prove me wrong, audit the code yourself.

Chromium is only used by those thinking it is less of a botnet than Chrome, at the expense of a built-in flash player (Pepper). Chromium is damn near no different.

>>541199

Check out Chromixium. Its pretty comfy.

>>541215

That's an operating system. And ubuntu as well? seems pretty shit tier tbh

>>541215

>cublinux.com

Chrome/Chromium is "botnet" only because it's developed by Google and Google is Evil. First, most of these features are optional. Second, Firefox had google-powered anti-phishing and anti-malware for a decade and no one cared. But then Google made a browser and normies started to panic and making scary inforgraphics.

But yeah, if you're paranoid, you have to audit the code yourself. Since every major browser is too complex to be audited by small teams, your only options are lynx and other marginal browsers.

>>541240

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Firefox is pretty cancer as well, with firefox Hello and all that. Switched.

>inb4 "just disable the botnet features"

You a pathetic consumer if you believe there are ready-made botnet & non-botnet products. Botnet is multilevel. For example, safe browsing can be considered a botnet (at least there's a paper that calculates it is indeed possible to guess visited websites from a list of hashes server receives), but there's a clear option to disable it in settings. Should it be done for you or should you understand at least the basics of how software you run operates?

It is impossible to make an idiot safe on the internet without placing a severe restrictions on his activity.

>>541333

nice microphone blog, downloaded :^)

>>541222

>there is nothing, nothing, you can do in Chrome that isn't transmitted to Google through some channel.

Funny cause all those features are optional.

>>541333

>It is impossible to make an idiot safe on the internet without placing a severe restrictions on his activity.

Agreed. Most people are like children on the internet, and are bound to fuck themselves up. As long as competent people are able to disable restrictions without jumping through hoops, than it's fine.

If you actually want to know about Chromium privacy, don't rely on hearsay, check what this patchset changes:

https://github.com/gcarq/inox-patchset

If you still want hearsay: Most of these just change defaults, but some functions actually communicate with Google, for example the new tab page. So while they don't know what you browse, they know your IP and when you open a new tab. This could be correlated with Google DNS requests, searches or Google analytics for example if you use / don't block these services.

>>542954

Tell me about Opera, I've been using Palemoon for a while and while definitely a step in the right direction with the latest update it still has some lacking quality of life parts (for starters Quick Reply doesn't seem to work on it for some reason).

It is considering

https://iridiumbrowser.de/

mentions modifying chromium to enhance privacy and security.

I'm using it right now, but how private Iridium is, I'm not sure myself. Generally, I just like the performance over what I've had with Firefox based browsers.

>>542980

Opera is proprietary software, there's nothing to say. Ignoring that for a moment, it's okay, it had a lot of great ideas some years ago, but I don't see any reason to use it now.

>no Blink browser with the ricability and addon support of Firefox

JUST

>>542992

>Proprietary

Yeesh, that's a shame. Even without that though I actually downloaded it just to take a look, it seems much too similar to chrome for my tastes, and anything that opens up with a recommended sites tab that leads with fucking Facebook is dead to me in my books. So seems like I'm sticking to Palemoon for now while the hunt for the perfect browser continues.

Slightly less botnet than Chrome, but only slightly.

>>542980

honestly i don't know alot about their linux based chromium version.

when i've had to use windows on someone's computer in the past, opera performed better than firefox, which was always crashing on one task, whereas opera never crashed on it.

using opera on OSX i also found to be very good, stable, solid performance, and it even supports chrome extensions pretty well. customization of keyboard shortcuts (without an add-on, unlike firefox, which is obviously more secure) was also a lovely feature.

opera mobile (though there's two) on android, when i tried that, seemed reasonably good but nothing dazzling.

i have heard opera has been, in the past, quite innovative. i think i read on ycombinator comments below a firefox article that opera invented tabbed browsing ? and maybe some other features popular nowadays

opera has a majority of offices in scandinavia and east asia, which is an unusual mix. opera was also recently bought by the chinese, which might mean slightly NSA-proof !

unfortunately though opera's website is not actually HTTPS, so your download could of the browser could easily be intercepted, which obviously chrome or firefox would never do. there's not even a checksum on a HTTPS page.

the fact that opera on linux is just a rehash of chromium however, is a bit disappointing. chromium is often faster than firefox, but yes it is indeed a botnet, paid for with your data. if they turned off all the privacy infringement though and only made money from adverts on the default 'new tab' page and the default search engines, which is a very similar financial model to firefox, then i'm not too worried about privacy infringement

>>542996

probably for moneys

>>543006

oh something i forgot to add: a couple years ago they use to make it impossible to change the default search engine from google, on opera on OSX, which i thought was a pretty crude business tactic.

in more recent times, at least on OSX, you have a choice, but only from a set of choices that they are paid to give you. so i think i recall you can choose duckduckgo instead of google nowadays, but you can't choose a completely custom default search engine. all this applies to OSX (only?)

>>543006

strangely i just discovered inputting opera.com website was not automatically redirecting me to the HTTPS version.... ???

but nonetheless, they do actually have https://www.opera.com

>>543019

also:

opera:flags

>webkit based

it's shit

https://8ch.net/tech/chrome.html

Yes.

>>542982

>mentions modifying chromium to enhance privacy and security

Sure, just like SRWare Iron did

>>543019

>strangely i just discovered inputting opera.com website was not automatically redirecting me to the HTTPS version.... ???

Because they're not using HSTS, which is more or less a must have in 2016. Opera traditionally is behind the times with everything, including security

>>543568

SRWare Iron is proprietary. Iridium isn't.

>>543571

Oh, good to know that Iridium's code was audited

>>543578

This anon is probably using windows, while taking shots at Iridium for supposedly being a botnet.

Super kek.

>>543592

I'm using leenoks, but how is it relevant?

It's ok if you don't want to trust google but why would you trust some random pajeets with your browsing history, passwords and credit card numbers? If you're too scared of botnet, you should use something simple.

>>543617

>I'm using leenoks

It's ok if you don't want to trust Microsoft but why would you trust some random CoC gobbling mailing list faggots with your browsing history, passwords, credit card numbers, list of running processes and private keys? If you're too scared of botnet, you should use something secure like OpenBSD.

I use a linux live CD with a firefox hiden in the linux folder already with my addons for privacy and always clean everything when i close my browser only to browse websites like 8ch.net/tech and similar

Firefox

35

with

Useragent

Firefox

20

Windows

I know how to use

proxy

tor

configure

etc..

But i don't use

here

While i use google chrome only when i will not go for this website or similar, i use for my real email of google, for my real accounts, and i try to avoid have the things related to tihis website

Or i go for my computer with windows installed and use the browser only for

safe

websites

I'm now using

LINUX LIVE CD

2013

Configured

by myself

with

Remastersys

and everything

will be erased

when i

shut down

and remove

the

CD

Linux Live CD

in

My notebook

without

Hard Disk

>>543623

Have a linux

trick to

update

old

linux that

don't have

official

updates

anymore

I also

config

my firefox

about:config

too

>>543624

I had a

hard disk

before to

install linux

configure

remastersys

and create

Live CD

and then

remove

Hard disk

of notebook

for security

using my

Live CD

Nobody never will

know the

websites

I visit

Like this

DO THESE STILL APPLY?

ITS OLD SETTINGS FOR FF

Turn off the new tab page, and makes it about:blank:

browser.newtab.url => about:blank

Turn off Geolocation:

geo.enabled => false

Turn off file virus-scan after download:

browser.download.manager.scanWhenDone => false

Override the useragent to most common useragent (not needed with Blender/UA Switcher):

New > string: general.useragent.override =>

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0

Force installation of non-updated add-ons:

New > boolean: extensions.checkCompatibility.[version #] => false

Disable prefetching (preloading of pages) and DNS prefetching, which lowers RAM usage:

network.prefetch-next => false

network.dns.disablePrefetch => false

Override location bar search (pick only one):

keyword.url => "https://duckduckgo.com/html/?q="

keyword.url => "https://startpage.com/do/search?q="

Enable HTTP pipelineing regularly, on SSL pages, and on proxies, respectively:

network.http.pipelining => true

network.http.pipelining.ssl => true

network.http.proxy.pipelining => true

Increase the amount of connections/requests Firefox will make:

network.http.pipelining.maxrequests => 64

network.http.max-connections => 512

network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server => 32

Speed up the security delay when installing add-ons:

security.dialog_enable_delay => 500

Disable tab animations:

browser.tabs.animate => false

browser.fullscreen.animateUp => 0

Put cache on RAM:

browser.cache.memory.enable => true

browser.cache.memory.max_entry_size => -1

browser.cache.disk.enable => false

browser.cache.disk.parent_directory => /tmp/firefox

Reduce page loading delay:

New > integer: nglayout.initialpaint.delay => 0

New > boolean: content.interrupt.parsing => true

New > boolean: content.notify.ontimer => true

New > integer: content.max.tokenizing.time => 100000

New > integer: content.notify.backoffcount => -1

New > integer: content.notify.interval => 100000

New > integer: content.switch.threshold => 2000000

Remove submenu slide delay:

New > integer: ui.submenuDelay => 0

Set a "do-not-track" header to tell sites not to track browsing habits:

privacy.donottrackheader.enabled => true

Disable Pocket, Hello and WebRTC

loop.enabled => false

browser.pocket.enable => false

media.navigator.enabled => false

media.peerconnection.enabled => false

Disable Google Blacklists:

browser.safebrowsing.enabled => false

browser.safebrowsing.maleware.enabled => false

Disable pings:

browser.send_pings => false

browser.send_pings.require_same_host => true

Disable suggestions on searchbar:

browser.search.suggest.enabled => false

Disable keywords:

keyword.enabled => false

Disable certificates:

browser.ssl_override_behavior => 2

Disable DNS proxy bypass:

network.proxy.socks_remote_dns => true

Disable crash reporting:

In application.ini in the Firefox folder,

[Crash Reporter]Enabled=1 => [Crash Reporter]Enabled=0

>>543011

Opera still only allows their list of search providers. This means they get paid to force you to use Google yahoo bing etc.

>Want to add startpage or ixquick?

>Sorry, nope, they aren't in our pay list.

>>543609

>spend 5 seconds installing APNG extension

>it now has APNG support

>and is still much faster and better than firefox in every way

>>543619

>OpenBSD

>not TempleOS

what a cuck

>>543617

right this is a valid point.

how do you know you can trust iridium ? sure they have good values on paper, but so does every hellish corporation

but generally i'd trust opera more than google

>>543670

you can add startpage & ixquick, but not as default. so when you search you write "s testsearch" for example or "ix testsearch" or "waffles testsearch" etc

but you can use DDG as default

>>543683

I can't find any formal audit (which is a shame), but the source code is looked at by outsiders, and it's built reproducibly, so there's at least nothing obviously malicious they added.

>>541210

Because Firefox runs like worm-infested currynigger shit mixed with concentrated jenkem, unlike Chromium which actually runs pretty fast. I've been tempted so many times to start Chromium just because Firefox stalls for 30 seconds with max CPU usage while just keeping certain websites open.

>>543636

these seem to all still apply, just went through them one by one with mozillazine. with the exception of the last one ...

i don't know if the 'page loading delay' ones do anything though

>>542996

>>542992

Doesn't Opera have a built-in BitTorrent client?

>>541377

>Funny cause all those features are optional.

Yeah, optional by not using the software. If you really think they'd let you turn what makes their salaries off, you're an idiot. Same with Windows 10 (which has been proved)

>>543675

>and it's still a botnet

>>544309

Chromium is open source.

If you think my browser is still communicating with Google in some way, even after I disable the privacy infringing options, go look at the source code.

>>542996

Try Seamonkey.

>>541199

Chromium is marketed to be "Google Chrome ready" so it has all the botnet stuff ready to be switched on (compile flag).

>but muh open source BSD

is shit.

free opensource software > opensource :^)

btw even chromium is a better choice than the spaghetti firefox. Let's just wait until KDE fiber is released. KDE community is steadily growing.

>>547272

> go look at the source code

Sh-h-h, you'll trigger /tech/ public! In case you can't see it by the number of browser threads and their polemic abilities, fixing the code is something they can't do and don't want to hear about.