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XP was worse than vista launch until SP2

Well it was the last windows operating system that felt like an operating system I'll give you that.

It's funny to think that so many people are singing the praises of windows 7 these days when everyone was shitting on it when it first came out. I guess it goes to show that in reality the only thing people don't like about newer versions of windows is the metro shit. They don't care about functionality.

>>543376

Before Metro, it was the glass.

When Windows XP first came out, everyone said it had a Fisher Price UI.

>>543382

it still does look like Fisher price. it's just they prefer Fisher price to metro

>>543398

Metro only exists because Microsoft drastically overestimated the popularity and adoption of touch interfaces.

>the majority of consumers who used windows XP would never utilize the vast array of utilities it offers

>the majority of consumers will only use their OS for email, youtube, and facebook

>the rest of the OS is useless bloat to them

Remember when you had to read a manual to use your computer? Remember when you had to fucking learn something?

I miss those days.

>>543400

I have one on my lappy, I don't use it at all. feels like shit: who actually wants to carry their arm at full extension for long periods of time?

>>543438

>lappy

ur a fagit

>>543376

When Win 7 was new, everyone claimed XP was the best, aside from a few claiming 9X was the best. When Win 8 was new, everyone claimed that either XP or 7 was the best. Now that Win 10 is here, everyone claims 7 was the best. Every few years, the "best" windows advances. Except for skipping Vista, because not even nostalgia goggles can override the "Vista is absolute garbage" meme. What they don't realize is that every version of Windows is absolute garbage, Vista is just the one time it was obvious enough for normies to notice. Back when Vista first came out, I remember some people who would even claim that ME was the best. I know someone who, to this day, still claims ME was the pinnacle of Windows, and no version before or after could ever come close to it - despite having never used any earlier version of Windows.

>>543458

Pssh all Windows amirite?

That linux thing is like, totes better. It has the customization my dick requires to get hard. Fo' real.

>>543437

>The majority of users want ease over customization

>even many so-called power users enjoy something that feels' intuitive over something that takes forever to get used to even if the one that's more difficult to use has more customization.

Remember when everything related to computers was some super-secret club?

I'm glad those days are gone.

XP was trash.

>>543376

But windows seven is the only one that actually feels like an operating system.

In XP, if an userspace program hanged or started consuming resources intensively, you could expect a hard reset most of the time, that right away breaks a couple of laws about what an operating system should be. Having a reliable scheduler and a way to preempt things is obligatory.

in Seven, pressing Alt + Ctrl + Del will get you out of the problem 99.99% of the time, making you able to at least kill the fucker giving you the problem. It was only with seven that my PC started having 100% uptime like it does with Linux right now.

Seven still had problems, but it is the closest Microsoft got to make a reliable operating system. I don't know why do you think seven has less functionality than XP though, the only problem I had with it was that some options were hidden behind the "pretty" modern interface, but they were still there.

>>543460

>I don't know why do you think seven has less functionality than XP though, the only problem I had with it was that some options were hidden behind the "pretty" modern interface, but they were still there.

That's the opposite of what I was trying to say. People who defend earlier versions of windows, XP in particular, while shitting on the later ones often won't or can't articulate their issues past looks. I should have said XP 'looked' more like an operating system. later versions seemed more "Fisher Price" to me.

Though I guess XP is pretty light on resources by modern standards and still retains a lot of functionality. I personally use it in a VM for MUH GAMEZ. Nothing I play is going to go past DX9.

>>543459

>That linux thing is like, totes better. It has the customization my dick requires to get hard. Fo' real.

If you're only considering the default DE, and also not tearing it apart and rebuilding from the ground up - ie, using it as the average person would, and not getting in to ricer shit or advanced/power user stuff - many distros don't have much customization. For quite a while, Ubuntu's Unity had less customization options than Windows, and is only just starting to catch up. Cinnamon and GNOME 3 also each have fairly little customization.

>The majority of users want ease over customization

The two are not mutually exclusive. The customization is entirely optional, if one does not wish to customize something, they can use the defaults. If there is something wrong by default, they can find that particular setting and change it, while ignoring the rest. If there was little or no customization, they'd just need to put up with whatever is wrong - either get used to it, or have it annoy them forever. I'd say taking a moment to toggle a switch once is easier than needing to do something that gets in your way or that annoys you every single time you attempt to use a program.

Also, something feeling intuitive is generally a good thing, and often means that the defaults are good. If that user prefers something with good defaults, the extra customization of being able to alter those defaults doesn't really matter to that person - they wouldn't change it anyway. But, someone else who doesn't like the defaults might be forced into going for the more difficult to use and less intuitive option that takes forever to set up. If the more intuitive program had more customization options then this second person could have changed the settings, and been able to make the easier, intuitive program work perfectly for their use, and the first person who liked the defaults would still like the program just as much.

The main reason, IMO, that Linux is better than Windows is that Linux aligns more closely with my morals and ethics, while Window goes against them. I like freedom, I like transparency, I like to own a product I purchase, I like to know how the things I use work, I like to be able to change and modify things to better suit my individual needs.

>>543376

at least 7 wasn't trying to be GNOME

>>543382

It did. I immediately switched it back to the 95 look and kept it there until the machine died.

>>543355

>XP

my african american associate

Remember when computers worked... Without the internet???

fuck.. Times have changed

>>543459

The average /tech/ poster, everyone.