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File: 1458436622889.jpg (1.17 MB, 2480x3720, 2:3, themeatthief.jpg)

 No.546874

>It's OK for me to steal this meat, I wasn't going to pay for it anyway.

It's Saturday night and you're torrenting software and games. Yet no one has ever been able to figure out how to justify that it isn't literally exactly the same as stealing.

Copyright infringement is stealing. Even the GPL wouldn't be possible without copyright. Free Software is protected by the same ideas as everything else. You're a hypocrite if you think companies should respect the GPL but you don't have to respect copyright on other works

 No.546878

>>546874

you /pol/faggots have not enough?

as you wish then


 No.546879

You already posted this shit.


 No.546880

>>546874

>this shit

again and again and again and again, do it again, do it again, again and again.


 No.546882

>>546878

So you've got no argument? Guess you lose again then


 No.546888

File: 1458438024830-0.jpg (101.17 KB, 470x647, 470:647, Undying Love between OP an….jpg)

File: 1458438024830-1.png (746.14 KB, 897x1021, 897:1021, We had this thread yesterd….png)

OP is a faggot.


 No.546889

File: 1458438209841.jpg (73.82 KB, 294x290, 147:145, 1458195505739-pol.jpg)

I'd steal it if it was risk free to do so.


 No.546893

The GPL license is an open license. projects made under said license not one made with a GPL licensed project, which is trickier territory can never be stolen unless a GPL licensed product is sold commercially or it's source closed by someone other than the creator of the project. Only in that sense it can be stolen.

GPL projects can never be "pirated" in the manner which you are referring to, as in this context "pirating" is illegal sharing of a project. In this case, a GPL project is required to be shared openly. Thus, again, it cannot be stolen or "pirated" in this manner.

Oh, and PS: you're retarded OP.


 No.546896

File: 1458439409972.jpg (88.63 KB, 780x775, 156:155, Piracy_a81f8d_1046544.jpg)

>>546874

Schoolholidays again?

See a lot of shit like this in the past couple days.


 No.546913

I'd like to point out just for the sake of making OP less retarded that there have been several studies that show that pirates actually spend more money. They simply spend on something they like rather than on everything that comes at them.

The only reason "piracy" is illegal is, well it's two reasons actually:

1. Software developers attempt to force you to buy everything to find a gem. That or use rental services like gamefly or netflix.

2. When software developers make a bad game they will excuse it simply because it can't possibly be the game's shitty content for the lack of sales. It must be those fucking pirates! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Can't archive at the moment, any nice anon who has some time should archive these for posterity. I'll get around to it when possible.

>https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150722/06502731723/aussie-study-infringers-spend-more-content-than-non-infringers.shtml

>https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121126/00590921141/dear-riaa-pirates-buy-more-full-stop-deal-with-it.shtml

>https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110727/16233815292/another-day-another-study-that-says-pirates-are-best-customers-this-time-hadopi.shtml

>http://www.cnet.com/au/news/australians-still-pirating-but-most-would-ignore-three-strikes-warnings/

>https://torrentfreak.com/0-more-on-content-than-honest-consumers-130510/

>http://www.eteknix.com/biggest-file-sharing-pirates-actually-spend-more-money-on-content-than-normal-people/

>http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/research/telecoms-research/online-copyright/deep-dive.pdf

I'm sure I could find more if I put more effort into it.

And again OP is retarded.


 No.546918

>>546874

you wouldn't download a steak


 No.546932

>>546874

Yeah, I'm done paying for media. I barely consume anything outside of free podcasts, old radio shows and television I downloaded 5+ years ago.

I don't give a shit about any video games past 2008 and I'm done taking a gamble only to find out it's a shit product that was over hyped by marketing. I won't even waste my time stealing the shit that's put out today. About once every 6 months I borrow a game from a friend, hammer out the campaign and then give it back.

Keep propping up lazy development and shit quality media for me OP. I'm actually being forced to get a life thanks to it.


 No.546935


 No.546940

>>546874

>You're a hypocrite if you think companies should respect the GPL but you don't have to respect copyright on other works

One is a license that attempts to look out for the interests of the user through requiring a minimal amount of protection from malicious software.

The other is a law designed to bilk customers for as much as possible, in some instances trying to charge them multiple times for the same thing.

Copyright and copyright defenders can get fucked.


 No.546942

>>546874

Choke on bags of dicks.


 No.546949

Piracy is not theft. When you steal something, you TAKE it. When you pirate something, you copy it. These are not the same thing.

But yes, piracy is illegal. I am enjoying the work of someone else without paying for it.

And you know what? I don't care. I really, honestly just done care. A bunch of rich assholes in America will have to buy a slightly less impressive mansion? I don't care.


 No.546950

We're now slower than /g/ with the worst autists from /g/ postsing years old bait and newfaggots replying seriously to it.


 No.546952

>>546874

>>546882

A company not respecting the GPL is a lot more obvious than some nobody pirating software off the internet.

It's also a lot easier to punish a company not respecting the GPL than it is to punish the millions pirating software day and night.

It's not a matter of me believing that companies should respect the GPL and individuals should pirate software, rather that it's impractical and insignificant for the average Joe to respect copyright law, and legally irresponsible for a company to disrespect the GPL.


 No.547021

File: 1458456295229.png (106.42 KB, 334x432, 167:216, 1444367237087.png)

>>546874

Not this shit again.

Piracy == Stealing is a fallacy. It's like saying Solar Panels steals energy from the sun.

The very core definition of stealing is to remove someone's owned property from their possession without intending to return it.

Digital goods can be copied perfectly and indefinitely, thus the only way you can "steal" a digital item is to remove the original file and all existent copies on the entire internet, which is impossible, additionally you cannot "return" a digital copy of something so that part of the fallacy falls apart as well.

Piracy is to make a copy of information in a way that does not conform to the original author's wishes in regards to copies of their goods.

A more suitable example of piracy being translated to a real world action would be to steal a recipe from a restaurant.

By using the recipe (file) and your own raw materials (hardware) you can produce an exact copy of the restaurant's meal (media experience) for "free", you can also share the meal with your friends.

Some may argue that the restaurant loses money on this, however you haven't stolen any raw goods or cooked meals from them, they can still serve your meal/raw materials to another customer.

What you have deprived them of however is "potential revenue" that they may or may not have gotten from you (you could have chosen to go to McDonald's instead).

If piracy were stealing then schools would have been outlawed because all that knowledge they teach you is always in some way, shape or form the intellectual property of some professor/scientist/scholar who lived long ago, and thus by law of inheritance, now the intellectual property of their children/grandchildren/grand-grandchildren/etc.


 No.547024

>>546874

>Copyright infringement is stealing.

Not according to the law. Copyright infringement is distinct from theft. Cases of copyright infringement have never been successfully prosecuted under statues pertaining to theft.

Copying is not theft. If you steal something from someone, he doesn't have it. If you copy something, two people have it. Everyone wins.

File sharing is beautiful. It makes more and more knowledge and culture, and makes the world a better place.

Copyright is just greed. It's trying to put a price on something that's free, and doesn't hurt anyone. Like a man trying to charge people for looking at his house as they pass it on the street. Sheer madness.

The only sensible, sane, and humane policy is to abolish copyright immediately. Anything less is ugly and obscene.


 No.547025

The meat argument doesn't work because software can be copied infinitely without any effort.


 No.547030

File: 1458457987614.webm (631.44 KB, 640x360, 16:9, kopimashin.webm)

>>546874

So by that logic look at how much this machine is generating loss for the industry!


 No.547044

File: 1458460943162.jpg (155.76 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, maxresdefault.jpg)

>>546874

I'm going to repost the same reply I gave when this same exact subject was brought up 2 WEEKS AGO. I didn't actually save the reply, if quroboros didn't do it for me I wouldn't have remembered

>>541228

I think the whole subject of paying for software is subjective no matter you throw it. But Imho, free and open source software are basically gifts and donating to the developer is mere intrinsic value for software. It isn't required to donate but mutually supports both parties,

Further reading: The Gift: Creativity and the Artist

There is a reason why FLTK development is slow...

For instance a while back GnuPG financial assets relyed on one man who went broke [0] and was helped by the community. [1]

In conclusion, help projects that actually need it instead of those that don't (e.g gnome)

[0] archive.is/IMKA4

[1] archive.is/NH9oT


 No.547047

how is this baiting still working, it's like at least 3y old


 No.547055

>>546913

Done, they are all archived.

https://ghostbin.com/paste/6tshh

Do you want me to add the text above the links?


 No.547056

>>547055

I'l add them any way.

>>547044

Also adding your reply to >>541228.


 No.547057

>>547056

It's updated.


 No.547074

>>546878

Since when /pol/ is the new /intl/ on /tech/?


 No.547078

>>546874

It's quite sad that you defend the GPL.

>Find non-free software

>Make shitty GPL clone

Counterfeiting software is the same thing as stealing. "GNU's Not Unix" indeed!


 No.547153

File: 1458481090952.webm (7.96 MB, 1040x656, 65:41, Deliciousmeal.webm)

>>546874

The meat was delicious thank you verymuch.

Are you waiting to receive my limp penis?


 No.547381

>>546874

Did you notice that hardware companies are making copyright infringement. Making

kernel blobs is copyright infringement.

Where are the FBI saviours?

http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/ols_2006_keynote.html


 No.547382

>>546874

>>546874

Did you notice that hardware companies are making copyright infringement. Making

kernel blobs is copyright infringement.

Where are the FBI saviours?

http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/ols_2006_keynote.html


 No.547406

>>547074

Since they started raiding over NN and crying about how bits being treated equal was bad because

>hurr equality is a false god

thereby completely failing to understand the issue at hand.


 No.547446

>>547406

More like you retards don't understand legislation and think anything labeled "net neutrality" by the government must be a good thing, because they're definitely fighting DA EBUL CORPORATIONS and not working with them.


 No.547456

>>547446

You know, no anti-NN shitposters have actually given any specific reason for why net neutrality is a bad thing. You pretty much say it's bad because the government is involved. While the government often does ruin things, the specific manner in which the government is using NN to ruin the internet is never detailed by anti-NN shitposters.

I for one would rather have my interbutts protected by the goobermint than leave myself open to the possibility of some blue-haired harpy working at Comcast getting triggered over my use of the word "nigger" and demanding that Comcast stop servicing 8chan. The question is "Who can possibly do more harm to me in this particular situation?"


 No.547466

>>547446

>legislation

Here's how we know you are woefully uninformed. There was no legislation. Title II classification is the default from which the government diverged under FCC authority. This has only turned back the clock. Congratulations, retard.


 No.547476

>>546874

DMA Millennium Act states that as long as no exchange of money or profit is made, you can download/copy any media you want. This includes ads on torrent sites however.

I've used this time and time again. Such a basic law, how people don't know this (especially with the huge WE'VE TAKEN THIS DOWN FOR DMCA VIOLATION REASONS) is unknown to me.

I did a paper on this a few years ago for a class I had, fact checked and all. You can read the law yourself, you're quite protected as long as you make sure no money is being made through ads or obviously handing money over. (Money through ads can be used to support the site however, but this is a grey area and can be easily used to fuck a site over).


 No.547480

>>547476

I thought that only applied to download and not distribution, which they argue bittorrents are. However, you would be protected if you were an FTP downloader, but not the server maintainer.


 No.547512

>>546874

>I pirate Windows 98

>An OS that hasn't been seen on store shelves since 2005

>Buying it off Ebay won't hurt or help Microsoft

Would you like to tell me how it's stealing when what I am doing does not hurt Microsoft in any way?


 No.547514

>>546874

But you can't make the exact same copy of a food product unlike software. So in that case someone is really being financially damaged unlike the later


 No.547523

>>546874

well it depends on your definition of stealing. If you think repeating something you've heard is stealing then yes, it's stealing.


 No.547639

>>546874

data =/= meat




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