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File: b02301e75b8bc65⋯.jpg (1.1 MB, 2928x2216, 366:277, browsers.jpg)

 No.779670

Friendly reminder that if you're a person who respects their individual privacy and freedom, there is no reason to be using the products created by the botnet that is the Google company.

There is a plethora of options available for you to replace your Google apps that are lighter, faster and better in general, including respect for freedom and privacy.

>search engine?

SearX, DuckDuckGo, StartPage, Yandex (Soviet Botnet)

>browser?

Pale Moon, Waterfox, Brave, Vivaldi

>email?

Self Host, cock.li, Proton Mail, Hotmail (Still Botnet) Yandex (Soviet Botnet)

>cloud storage?

Syncthing, ownCloud, Nextcloud

app store?

F-Droid, Yalp for Play Store front end

>YouTube?

NewPipe for mobile, not signing in on desktop

>SMS/Hangouts?

XMPP, Signal.

>calendar?

Nextcloud, ownCloud, RadiCAL,

>keep?

NextCloud, keep it in your emails.

>news?

RSS client, Librenews

List of Software you can Self-Host

https://github.com/Kickball/awesome-selfhosted

NextCloud Providers

https://nextcloud.com/providers/

OwnCloud Providers,

https://owncloud.org/providers/

WebMail Comparison

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_webmail_providers

 No.779704

>Excellent tier

>Proprietary browser #43

Kys


 No.779722

File: 6d3d7f77f5e969d⋯.png (1.77 MB, 1000x7440, 25:186, 6d3d7f77f5e969d07336bc02fe….png)

The whole point of GNU Icecat is to subvert the telemetry/nonfree/privacy-violating things in Firefox while remaining as similar to the source as possible. The fact that you dismiss all Firefox forks as though they are just inherently comprimised without any grasp for what the point of the project is just shows your ignorance.

Also, the article you cite is totally misleading. Mozilla's "war" on fake news is easily one of the least concerning things Firefox has ever done. If you're making an infograph on secure browsers, you could have easily cited articles talking about Mozilla's telemetry and much more discernable, technical bullshit, not to mention pretty much everything gHacks as ever covered on Firefox. So, even on the needlessy paranoid front, your list still manages to suck more than it ever should.

Also, Uzbl is a webkit browser, not a text browser. So it just shows us that you clearly have never used all of the browsers you're shit talking here.

And you didn't even mention Dooble, a project that is incredibly vocal about making their browser both free and privacy-protecting.

So here you are, needlessly mentioning all these proprietary, blatantly malicious browsers that no one would have known about anyway, but you aren't even willing to acknowledge free projects that are actually making a concerted effort to do something good for the World. That would easily fit your criteria of what a good, safe browser could be.

What is wrong with you?

>>779704

To be fair, Brave is actually open-sores.


 No.779728

>>779722

>To be fair, Brave is actually open-sores.

That's nice to know, when did this happen?


 No.779739

>>779728

I don't think it was ever proprietary, although I can understand how you were probably swayed by the rumors and misinformation--all of which probably stemmed from their business model, which, admittedly, reeks of the musk of venture capitalists and startup culture; but the software in itself is licensed under MPL, just like Firefox. But it's built on Blink.

I'm not trying to justify Brave, here. Just stating facts.


 No.779740

>Vivaldi

So you would rather use a proprietary browser than a free browser just because you don't agree with their agenda? And how does that make it more secure?


 No.779744

>>779740

You're on /tech/ , don't expect too much rational thinking .


 No.779769

>god tier (no privacy issues): icecat (can't be trusted)

>excellent: brave

>does not mention that brave is made by javascript creator and mozilla co-creator

this is bait


 No.779785

>>779670

Bad infograph. You shouldn't recommend proprietary software, unless there is no FLOSS alternative at all, such as Youtube. I haven't used Youtube at all for 6 about years.

>>779722

Very good post. The Google analytics hidden in the addons page is way worse than virtue signalling.

>>779769

Why shouldn't we trust GNU/Icecat?


 No.779814

>>779670

Most of this is good advice, except for:

>>cloud storage?

>Syncthing, ownCloud, Nextcloud

Syncthing is a bit of a battery hog on android. Not unusably so, but something to be aware of. Also, Owncloud and Nextcloud's android clients do not allow the user to sync arbitrary folders, aside from photos in DCIM. You can manually upload/download files and folders outside of DCIM, but there's no way to do it automatically.

And speaking of Nextcloud... screw Nextcloud. They fucked over a lot of people on residential connections with their cute little stunt a few months back, all that "sending warning letters to ISP abuse deparments about home users running old versions" bullshit. https://archive.fo/3IZSX


 No.779842

>>779722

Chromium isn't libre, that's why it isn't in the trisquel repository.

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/chromium-unconditionally-downloads-binary-blob


 No.779843

>>779842

find .mozilla -type f -perm /100 -ls


 No.779856

>>779670

That's some disgustingly inaccurate graph you have in here, kid.


 No.779858


 No.779861

>>779722

>just shows your ignorance

Checked and agree on the fact that OP is a dumb illiterate faggot.

It's quite clear to me that this post has been made by a mongrel /pol/ack following the degoogle meme and not from anyone near being a tech savvy.


 No.779887

>>779722

>The fact that you dismiss all Firefox forks

>Palemoon is in the recommended

I don't understand where you got the idea that he was dissmising all firefox forks.


 No.779914

>>779887

Every other Firefox fork has a huge, red asterisk next to it. Pale Moon, while you're technically true, isn't really a Firefox fork in the same way that a browser like Waterfox is, since it was forked from a waaay older version, and it's deviated so far from its source it's really become its own, independent project and thus not affected by the actions of Mozilla in the way other forks are.


 No.779951

>>779785

I am not saying it cannot be trusted, OP's picture is saying that.


 No.780027

>>779914

A fork is a fork regardless of whether it happened recently or many years ago. A fork is always an independent project because changes generally do not return upstream.


 No.780133

>>780027

You're right. I think calling those other browsers forks was misleading, because those projects can and do in fact still have the capacity to exchange code between each other and are pretty much cross-compatible as a result. The main difference, really, for most of these browsers is mostly ideological, but they still rely heavily on upstream.

So they aren't really forks. They aren't even independent projects in the way that Pale Moon is. So there's a difference between those Firefox-based browsers and Pale Moon.


 No.780144

>>780133

Here are a list of forks from Firefox:

Waterfox

Iceweasel

Icecat

Torbrowser

Swiftfox

Palemoon

It doesn't matter if these projects contribute nothing to Firefox, they are independent of Mozilla and of Firefox. What makes them forks is that they are all derived from Firefox.


 No.780147

>>779769

> can't trust the guy who got unpersoned by the morality police at Mozilla

>can't trust the guy who created the only surviving client-side scripting language who will be around long after flash is permanently killed and Microsoft's "here, virus site, have root access to the OS" and StateBook's framework for sites that want to risk getting sued into oblivion react are gone.

Heh


 No.780153

>>780144

Goddamnit, I'm trying to agree with you. You know what I mean.


 No.780156

is SeaMonkey a viable option? it's the only other browser than Firefox I've used that I actually like and doesn't feel broken/shitty, despite looking old.


 No.780159

>>780156

If you like it, then use it. It works, so why not? You might want to consider using SeaMonkey for all of its potential, though, and not just as a browser.

What I mean is that SeaMonkey is also a viable eMail client, RSS reader, IRC client, etc. . Basically, it's a lot of things. If you aren't going to use those, then maybe it's not worth using for the space and resources it consumes.


 No.780177

>>779785

YouTube is FLOSS since it requires no proprietary software to watch. They run proprietary software, but that's their loss.


torsocks -i youtube-dl -o - <VIDEO> | mpv -


 No.780182

>>780177

You're wrong.

I don't remember the details, but there was something regarding proprietary JS to watch/download from YouTube.


 No.780201

File: 556cfc9d2a00380⋯.png (1.78 MB, 2343x1316, 2343:1316, mozilla firefox.png)

but what has the redshield done to ff?


 No.780220

>>780182

It just parsed it, not executed it, it's for the "protected videos".


 No.780258

File: de64707dd5e4eff⋯.jpg (9.63 KB, 300x163, 300:163, ComodoBrowserLogo.jpg)

Hey all, I am currently using Comodo Dragon as my main browser however It is ranked pretty low on tier list infographics such as the one in the OP, could anyone please explain to my -why- Comodo Dragon is bad? I have been using it for awhile now so I could be free from Google's Telemetry which is what Comodo advertises it as doing, so it seems to me like Comodo Dragon is chrome but without google connections and spying in it.


 No.780351

File: c0953684472bb14⋯.png (55.9 KB, 1493x323, 1493:323, cuckodo dragon.png)

>>780258

>why is comodo dragon considered bad?

I wonder why. Spying is spying, no matter who's doing it. Comodo Dragon is even worse with it than Google and that's something to behold. Not to mention that they are lying and use Google Analytics anyways, spiced up with their own and their (((partners))) spyware. One of the worst browsers. Also obviously, it's proprietary, which should be a good enough reason by itself to stop using it.


 No.780366

File: 85f904f55572fa5⋯.jpg (29.3 KB, 600x375, 8:5, d4196dde3207f42694bed852ea….jpg)

>>779740

Most free browsers are shit, Vivaldi works great although some bugs in Linux

Funny since a decent amount of anons liked Opera before 12.8(?)cant remember, yet something similar comes out, but because they won't give out the full source its automatically shit. don't get me wrong, I prefer open source programs over proprietary and encourage people to do it, but saying no good proprietary programs exist is lying to themselves.


 No.780373

>>779722

>Waterfox

>Placebo

Nah. DRM, Pocket, and telemetry stuff is removed. Basically a straight FF clone, without the bits of botnet. Found right on the front page https://www.waterfoxproject.org/


 No.780399

>>780366

nobody is saying all proprietary programs are bad, just that you can never actually know if they are BECAUSE they're proprietary.


 No.780408

>nobody is saying all proprietary programs are bad

actually a lot of people do say that


 No.780410

>>779670

Who mad this graphic?

<Iron is not a scam! It doesn't have ads. It's just a better Chrome based on Chromium. And it's open source. You can download the code right now!

And why do you hate browsers which run in terminals like w3m?

Brave is taking the chromium and replacing the ads and share a little bit of profit with the user. It's what should be under scam tier.

The CEO seems to be a jew too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich

Firefox is also a botnet. It collects users browsing histories.

B-but that's okay because it's anonymous!

Pale Moon is ... outdated Firefox. It's okay that this guy tries but it separated from Firefox and is a one person project.

I never tries Iridium. probably just another chromium fork.

I also haven't tried IceCat.

Best browsers I know: Iron and Waterfox with basic plugins.


 No.784635

Wrong


 No.784882

>>784635

>bumping a ten day old thread for a monosyllabic grunt

Whatcha slidin, chaim?


 No.785091

>Google

literally who?


 No.786669

File: 131a621debfbacd⋯.jpg (38.04 KB, 339x400, 339:400, nous-allons-tous-mourir.jpg)

links/w3m are the real way to go.

They are very hard to use, I don't use them myself, but that's the only way.

I mean, even alternatives like surf or uzbl use webkit, and webkit is a big clusterfuck, the same shit than firefox. In fact, a lot of little web browser are actually built upon webkit/firefox.

I must be the only one here, but I'm using right now conkeror, with the palemoon backend.


 No.786720

Using Waterfox from sometime...Im curious about Dooble and Qupzilla. How are these browsers?


 No.786735

>>779670

How do I install Ft deep dark, or similar in Icecat. It is the only thing remaining for my setup. Can I rice Icecat any other way?


 No.786859

Trying Qupzilla for the first time. Very nice, but have some problems, like barely no plugins, and cant make somethings work, like DTube (Videos dont work) and the JavaScript settings are only yes/no to use it. Also, unlike many Firefox forks, it doesnt have a about:config menu (unless it have it hidden). Any help/recommendation with qupzilla would be nice. So please help.


 No.786876

uzbl is a webkit wrapper, the fuck is that shit meme


 No.786892

>>784882

>sliding

>on /tech/

This thread is informative, just because your AdWord salary is about to dry up doesn't give you a right to be salty. Stay mad.


 No.786894

I use youtube with adblock. And chromium. I'm not giving up either. Google isn't getting anything out of me either way.


 No.786897

>>786735

I ended up editing the .xpi to make it compatible with icecat.


 No.786898

File: 018ab5e4a4d2934⋯.gif (32.04 KB, 170x170, 1:1, scribble.gif)

Remember to get your normie friends on google.

https://vid.me/00d9u


 No.786903


 No.786905

I've switched to using RSS + youtube-dl to keep track of my subscriptions and their videos without having to use anything from Google aside from their videos themselves.

Anyone have any better recommendations for an online RSS reader that I can log into and keep in sync with all my stuff? I'm using Feedly right now but if I want more than 100 sources I need to pay.


 No.786933

>>779670

<PaleMoon

<God-Tier

They blocked usage of AdNauseam, completely.

There is a way around it, but unless you know how to do it, they blocked it.

Now I consider it "Placebo Autism"


 No.786958

>>779670

What do I do, /tech/? I have no less than FOUR fucking browsers on my laptop, but I see no way to consolidate

>Foxfire

Used for IPFS compatibility, especially with that IPFS addon that's really nice.

>Palemoon

General web browsing.

>Brave

A lot of websites required for my university fuck up with all of my autism extensions sometimes, so I use it for that.

>Iridium

For when no other browsers will work but I am required to view a page for school (non YouTube videos such as recorded lectures will sometimes require this)

It pisses me off. I just want to have ONE browser. Why is that so hard?


 No.786986

>>779722

I can't seem to find legit info on Dooble. The sourceforge website and subsequent links throw all sorts of red flags and I can't seem to find a readme or release notes the link for the most recent release notes 404s. Would you mind sharing a link with more information on the browser?


 No.787300

>>779670

Pale moon blocked the necessary adnauseum extension, it clicks on ads before you block them, fucking up Googles revenue and their botnet.

Pale moon blocked it, avoid it.


 No.787302

>>780410

Eich got fired from mozzila for donating to an anti gay marriage organization.

He literally got fucked by the Jewish establishment.


 No.787303

File: f510265d3b4ffd5⋯.png (3.39 KB, 130x51, 130:51, yandex.png)

Just posted this in the tech questions thread as well:

Can someone tell me how to add Yandex as a search engine in Firefox? I can't seem to find an add on that works.


 No.787328

File: d8d7dda60f984e0⋯.jpg (633.15 KB, 952x3008, 119:376, shitty unofficial 8chan br….jpg)

>>779722

Wow I wish I had found your post before I made my own shitty list. Its based on a pretty basic surface research and influenced by political view, but people kept asking on other boards after this topic came up and nobody answered them, so I wanted to give them a basic direction.

I am still debating if I shouldn't just put the Multi Engine Weirdness Tier in the Other Proprietary Botnet Tier, but I don't have enough information about them.


 No.787342

>>787328

Dooble, uzbl, surf use webkit.

Conkeror can be used with palemoon.

QupZilla is based on qtwebengine, based no webkit.

luakit based on webkit.

Netsurf actually have its own layout engine.

Midori is based on webkit.

Otter based on webkit.

K-melon based on gecko.

konkeror based on gecko.

kekonq based on qtwebengine (webkit).

Is webkite even trustable...


 No.787343

>>787342

>Konqueror is based on gecko

No, actually, it is based on KHTML, which was then forked to become Webkit iirc.


 No.787344

>>787343

You're right, my bad.


 No.787353

>>787328

autism


 No.787357

File: 1a4bbf7e2f5066f⋯.jpg (76.83 KB, 640x718, 320:359, 0-mad.jpg)

>>787353

Holy fuck I hate these fucking faggot screaming "autism!" at people trying to find a fucking solution. What are you even doing on 8ch, that's pretty "autistic" if you definition of autistic means mainstream and propaganda accepted.


 No.787370

>>787357

autism


 No.787373

>>787353

Nah I just had fun looking at everything the browser market had to offer and put it in a basic list, if I wanted autism I would have written a short description and history of every single browser.

And I learned some stuff, for example Opera is now owned by the same Chinese who make the 360 Security Browser.


 No.787648

>>787342

Qtwebengine is based on blink, not webkit. And qutebrowser supports both Qtwebengine and Qtwebkit.


 No.787659

>>787648

>>787342

QtWebEngine is based on Chromium, not just Blink (it also uses e.g. Chromium's network stack, V8, etc.). Also, Otter Browser can also use QtWebEngine instead of QtWebKit, though many features aren't supported and the dev kind of abandoned QtWebEngine.


 No.787661

>>787328

Why is qutebrowser in "Deeply Goncerned Tier", but other comparable projects like Otter/Qupzilla/Dooble/... (based on QtWebKit/QtWebEngine too, mostly one single developer too) are not?


 No.787664

Wait for fiber


 No.787754

>>787328

Vivaldi is based off Blink, not Chromium. Chromium is its own subset of cancer.

I use Vivaldi, although I am on Win7 with most of my shit replaced by FLOSS alternatives. (don't blame me for not running Leenux, blame my hardware)


 No.787768

File: 71dbb7f45404092⋯.jpg (23.01 KB, 600x281, 600:281, redering-engine.jpg)

In all these engines, what is trustable?

qtwebkit, qtwebengine (replacement of qtwebkit), webkit (apple), gecko (mozilla), webkitgtk, blink (google), goanna (palemoon's fork) etc...

Is it the soft around these engine that are in cause or are these engines the problem?

I mean, open source doesn't mean libre.

I feel that I should be for little custom rendering engine... With some kind of backup browser with the mainstream engine for when you truly need the javascript.


 No.787784

>>787768

>open source doesn't mean libre

Actually, almost all of the time, it does. There are very few software licenses that are one but not the other. The difference is almost entirely one of philosophy.


 No.787786

>>787784

If the soft send information to google, it still open source...

So no, it doesn't mean shit.


 No.787789

>>787786

It would still be free software too. Free software just means it follows the four freedoms. Which means that you can find the phoning home in the source code, for example. Literally, free software and open source are almost exactly the same thing:

https://opensource.org/faq#free-software

I prefer the term free software because, as the FSF says, "open" is a weaker statement than "free."


 No.787793

File: 5e6f203f89be221⋯.png (58.12 KB, 603x383, 603:383, always-compiling.png)

>>787789

Then let's not talk about free software, but software that don't sell my ass.

But the question remain the same; are these engines trustable? Is webkit trustable when you know that it's apple whose dev it?


 No.787876

>>787661

From what I found its made by a swiss guy as a side project and he ran a kikestarter to finance it.

Considering the history of kikestarter projects concern is justified.

>>787754

You have a point I will change that in future lists, but still the people behind it already drove their previous browser against the wall.

>>787793

Short answer to a complex question: no

Hence why it is important to find projects by trustable people that act as lookout for anything fishy and work as a canary in the coalmine for you.

Also the further away a fork evolves from the original the more resistant it becomes against introductions of new malicious shit by these companies.


 No.787890

>>787876

>From what I found its made by a swiss guy as a side project and he ran a kikestarter to finance it.

>Considering the history of kikestarter projects concern is justified.

He's very dedicated to it. He did two crowdfunding campaigns (in two years) so he'd be able to work full-time on it in the summer, because he needs to eat and pay rent.

The development all happens out in the open, so the results of the campaigns are easily verifiable (especially the first one because that's completely over). Read about it in the development blog, for example:

https://blog.qutebrowser.org/

I don't think any of the standard issues with crowdfunding campaigns apply here. He delivered and it's all very visible.

The developer posts here sometimes, and he cares about privacy and security. qutebrowser is completely free of anti-features, and there's no indication that will change. I can vouch for qutebrowser. It probably belongs in your Minimalist Tier.


 No.787899

File: 1b5f9dcac48a763⋯.jpg (22.98 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, serveidghmnmage.jpg)

I put tails on a USB drive just like you neckbeards said, but every time I try to connect to my wifi with it, it disconnects itself, and every other computer on my network until I turn off wifi in Tails. The same computer works fine if I connect in Windows 7.

What do?


 No.787920

>>787768

neither are trustable. they literally all have critical vulns disclosed every week


 No.787922

>>787768

neither are trustable. they literally all have critical vulns disclosed every week


 No.787924

>>787899

Install Gentoo.


 No.787925

>>787920

>>787922

Well, then, what's your suggestion? Something constructive would be nice.

>>787876

Seconding >>786986 on more Dooble info. I haven't really seen much about it. Is there a link you can share on it?


 No.788026

>>787876

Those crowdfundings were for some big features, with >3 years of maintaince and development outside of crowdfundings - while e.g. uzbl just was dead for months (but is finally somewhat active in its 'next' branch again)


 No.788102

Is it even possible to install Icecat on windows?

As of late I'm hopping between browsers trying to find a suitable one to stay into but with all these threads I'm starting to get vertigo, everyone recommends everything while saying everything else sucks.

Not that I complain, it's better to have this than "You need to try our Brand™ Of™ Browser™ That™ Everyone™ Loves™!™" in an Orwellian sort of way.


 No.788106

File: 00ea2b2b5f1d59e⋯.jpg (65.25 KB, 575x602, 575:602, privacy.jpg)

>>788102

I don't know why mod don't automatically ban every windows user from here. It needs to be some kind of user-agent autoban or something.

Why in the hell do you want to install icecat if in the first place, you're on fucking windows?

Don't you understand how it doesn't make the slighest sense? Stop shitting on threads.

I think I should just ignore such fucktard. I'm falling for the bait.

Back to this thread, the question remain the same:

In all these engines, what is trustable?

qtwebkit, qtwebengine (replacement of qtwebkit), webkit (apple), gecko (mozilla), webkitgtk, blink (google), goanna (palemoon's fork) etc...

If none of them is, what is the solution?


 No.788127

>>788102

It doesn't matter what browser you use, it matters how it interacts with the internet.

Don't be a memetard.


 No.788151

>>788106

>User Agent Autoban

Plenty of people on GNU/Linux use a Windows user agent in order to better blend in to the crowd, myself included.


 No.788249

Tell people to use Firefox Focus on Android if you want to fuck over Jewgle.

FFF blocks ads automatically.


 No.788263

>>779670

what's so bad about w3m?


 No.788266

>>787328

Well at least you put brave in the right catagory. People have seemed to be overly supportive of it lately.


 No.788267

>>788263

Absolutly nothing, don't listen when some says "autism" or "out of society" and stuff.

It's people who can't handle these tools that make these comments.

It's hard to use text browser today, especially when you're a millenium, and only know about internet 2.0.

But if you're serious, I think that links, w3m etc.. are the way to go.


 No.788376

>>779670

I know this has kind of turned into a browser thread (as tends to pop up around here) but I would like to ask after email. Does anyone know anything about Kolab? Apparently they run entirely free software and are hosted in Switzerland. Things aren't entirely encrypted by default like Protonmail, but this does mean you can use your own email client. I'm not sure what to make of them and am wondering if anybody has had any experience with their service.


 No.788379

>>779670

>email

>self host

How do I do this? Also, wasn't cock.li compromised?


 No.788385

>>788379

cock.li hosting has been moved to Romania iirc, which is where VC himself is. It was seized when he was hosting in Germany, because, you know, Germoney. As far as I know, things are good now, though you should always be encrypting your email anyway. As far as self hosting, I believe mail in a box is probably the easiest solution to set up, if you know what you're doing.


 No.788412

>>788106

>Why in the hell do you want to install icecat if in the first place, you're on fucking windows?

Because you learn step by step.


 No.788504

>>788379

Yeah how do you self-host your email?


 No.788508

>>788504

See >>788385

Mail in a Box has a tutorial video I believe.


 No.788538

>>786859

Anyone? Also, sometimes the pages I load give a load error, althought it goes normal when restarting/going back. And a minor thing but that grinds my gears is that Qupzilla doesnt keep the website zoom I give to a site, it always go back to the default level of zoom. I dont want to always read things too small! Could someone help me, please?


 No.788560

You can host your own email server?


 No.788576

File: 3984bab7aca691e⋯.png (687.42 KB, 605x460, 121:92, 3984bab7aca691eaf1ecbb484b….png)

Can mode ban people changing subject? It's a thread about Web browser, about about emails. There is another one about emails.

We were talking about engines to trust. And what about text browser security.

Is anyone here using text browsers like links, w3m? Are they that secure to use? The ultimate solution?

Is webkit, developed by Apple trustable, and so all the little browser built on it?


 No.788582

George Soros partnering with Firefox is fake, you fell for the google propaganda. Pale Moon should have a star next to it for blocking AdNauseam, not firefox.


 No.788600

File: d3d7a532f726309⋯.jpg (193.42 KB, 802x854, 401:427, CIA-NIGGER.jpg)

>>788582

It doesn't make sense, since we're certainly not go for proprietary browser. We're all going to chose "niche" browser that is only going to make free browser development more healthy and active.

About Palemoon, I thought they blocked it because they have ad revenue, but no, they literaly make a moral choice for all of us. This is definitively the most ridicule thing I've ever seen. That's not a faggot furrie who's gonna do any moral choice for me.


 No.788601

>>788106

>I don't know why mod don't automatically ban every windows user from here. It needs to be some kind of user-agent autoban or something.

Because of false positives, because it's just impossible, and most of all because enforcing the Loonix circlejerk even more isn't going to improve the board.

>>788576

>Can mode ban people changing subject? It's a thread about Web browser, about about emails. There is another one about emails.

No, this thread is just as much about email as it is about browsers. Please look at the OP.


 No.788616

>>788601

You're right, my bad. I was too focus on the talking.

I don't want to enforce any linux circlejerk. But windows user have to go. They are just making us lose our time. I'm not talking about exploitation of exploit obv.


 No.788649

>>788560

READ THE FUCKING THREAD IT'S RIGHT ABOVE YOU FUCKING HELL


 No.788660


 No.788813

>>779670

https://8ch.net/tech/ddg.html

DuckDuckGo just claim they don't track you while using it, and it's US based, government can do anything they want with it...


 No.788828

>>788600

>rewind to 30 minutes ago

>try compiling palememe

>OOM

>hard reboot

>back to Links


 No.788832

File: 329c8038096c639⋯.png (84.26 KB, 743x512, 743:512, Screenshot_2017-09-01_19-3….png)

Goddammit Stallman, stop adding so many addons.


 No.788871

>>787899

Install Heads, instead.


 No.788873

>>788249

FF Klar >> FF Focus.


 No.788973

>>779670

https://hooktube.com/

>Share YouTube videos without giving Google and its partners ad revenue or views. Bypass country blocks and age restrictions. Download YouTube videos and music. Deny Google your data.

<HOW: Just replace the domain in any YT link with hooktube.com and you get a slim page that loads YouTube's media files (mp4, webm, etc) directly into your browser's native media player. https://youtube.com/watch?v=S6bOkFLrsAc becomes https://hooktube.com/watch?v=S6bOkFLrsAc, etc. You can also embed with iframes: <iframe type="text/html" width="640" height="360" src="https://hooktube.com/embed/S6bOkFLrsAc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


 No.789012

>>779670

>God tier: palemoon

what the fuck?


 No.789064

File: 85526928fbdc45a⋯.png (171.46 KB, 225x305, 45:61, no-fuck-given.png)

>>788973

>Hooktube

>The HookTube frontend now loads its data from hooktube.com/api JSON rather than inserting inline with serverside scripting, so it requires JavaScript. Please give the site permission to run hooktube.com JavaScript in your NoScript or similar plugin. The javascripts are purely for loading data from hooktube.com and enabling interface elements, not tracking or ads.

>Don't give your data to google, but give it to us.

Fuck off.


 No.789066

>>789064

hooknosetube amirite


 No.789071

>>789012

>T. butt hurt bravefag


 No.789084

>>788973

Hooktube is an excellent service. Just discovered it the other day and started using it. Works well. I just wish there was an option to run it without javascript or have a webm with at least 720p resolution.


 No.789085

>>789064

>hooktube

>ATTENTION REQUIRED | CUCKFLARE

>ONE MORE STEP

>YOU NEED TO CAPTCHA TO GET ACCESS TO THE WEB PROPERTY

no

>>789071

palememe is literally shit tho. it's only good compared to these other bullshit browsers


 No.789087

>>789085

>it's only good compared to these other bullshit browsers.

Anything is better compared to modern web browsers.


 No.789091

>>789064

Just checked the Hooktube FAQ:

>Why can I no longer use HookTube without javascript enabled?

<Maintaining both inline and javascript versions of the same app is a lot of work and I'd rather just focus on one until things are a bit more definite. Right now I'm constantly changing, adding, removing things.

<You can still hooktube videos with only pure html by using the embed url: https://hooktube.com/embed/S6bOkFLrsAc It just doesn't have any extra features.

So just put the part after "watch?v=" in a Jewtube link where the string after "/embed/" is and you're good.


 No.789138

File: 51204c906c8276b⋯.jpg (37.7 KB, 600x449, 600:449, hie-dog.jpg)

>>789091

The goal is to use hooktube to search for videos.

I already have youtube-dl or even streamlink to look at youtube videos.

And I can't browse anything without javascript. So it's useless for me. Now, maybe the javascript is not harming, but I'm not good enough in javascript to go study the source code.


 No.789161

File: 8e5cd85bb791df7⋯.png (55.12 KB, 299x315, 299:315, confused anime girl.png)

>>789064

Your two greentexts directly contradict each other, what the fuck are you going on about?


 No.789173

>>789138

What about SMTube? Does that work for your needs?


 No.789195

>>789173

I use mpsyt.


 No.789200

>>779670

>Iridium phones home to Google

>Waterfox has no telemetry whatsoever

Iridium should be moved to Botnet, and Waterfox should be God tier. Fucking christ this isn't hard, people.


 No.789385

>>787899

I can't get over the M.C. Escher USB drive Tails uses as a logo it fucks me up everytime.


 No.789586

>>789385

Took me a while to see it, and now I can't unsee.

It's clearly not the way the logo was intended, though.


 No.789605

w3m

>runs in terminal

>has images

>has touch scrolling

>hit B to go back, oh look your cursor is on loliguro05, you don't have to remember which number you were on, you just up-arrow and hit enter to go to loliguro06. #1 best browser for reading novelupdates.com

>very intuitive and easy to learn vi-like interface

>is written in C but uses a garbage collector wtf alien space empire technology

>want tabs? want side-by-side webpages? use your terminal

>using browser extensions in non-w3m for security? enjoy your inevitable malicious upgrades

>no javascript

>stupid webnovel MTL fag has annoying 'watermarks' in the story? open rendered webpage in HTML and edit them out


 No.793583

>>779670

>Signal

No so good as people say. There are a lot of FREE messengers like Tox, Bitmessage.

>Vivaldi

ORLY? It nice browser but it still Chromopera.

>Yandex (Soviet Botnet)

Yep. Yandex=FSB. And Duckduckgo is a partner of Yandex.


 No.797154

Here's a question: Can I get past the sad panda in any browsers other than chrome and firefox?


 No.797225

File: 03cfaad64461862⋯.jpg (247.63 KB, 492x392, 123:98, CGiP6.jpg)

>>797154

No, because the design for logging in is almost entirely serverside, with your computer basically being used as a relay.

The way it basically works is:

>you make account at shitty forum site

>you log into shitty forum site

>you go to sad panda hentai site

>log in with shitty forum credentials

>you now have a massive library of shitty hentai to sort through

The only thing your browser actually does is hold a cookie which contains info for your forum account, that the porn site then grabs and sends back to the mothership for verification.

Honestly, I just prefer to stick with booru sites for getting my wank on.


 No.797388

>>797154

>Can I get past the sad panda in any browsers other than chrome and firefox?

>>797225

>No

he meant Yes. you just need to log in to the g.e forum. just delete all g.e/exh cookies, start with a fresh slate, log in, then go to exh


 No.797454

>>788832

Some weeks back I decided to re-visit gahnoo icecat. Wondered why the fuck is it slow to load. Open the addons page, and saw that shit. Ok not a huge deal I can at least disable it and if they have ublock origin that's 80% of my total addon right there anyway.

>reeeee why are so many people pushing for ublock origin there must be malicious intent behind it I'll be damned if they let that shit anywhere near icecat it's all botnet reeeeeee

I swear to fuck sometimes stallmanites are their own worst enemies.


 No.797546

>>797388

>he meant yes

I meant no, but I thought he was asking if he could bypass it completely with another browser. That's what I get for only sleeping a few hours a night.

The meat of my post was just that all browsers will do the exact same thing when confronted with that site.


 No.798551

Is there a program out there that scrapes Youtube URLs? I don't want to use web pages, like Hooktube. I just want the URLs so I can play the vid using mpv --ytdl.


 No.798562

>>798551

Yeah, it's called youtube-dl


 No.798588

>>798562

youtube-dl downloads videos/allows mpv to play them, when given a URL. What he's asking for is something that allows him to easily search for videos and get URLs without having to use a browser.


 No.798593

>>798588

mps-youtube

let's you youtube from the command line. I've been using it for about a year.


pip3 install youtube-dl
pip3 install mps-youtube

Boom. You're done.


 No.800670

What's some ok alternative to their translate?


 No.800736

>>800670

Now THIS is something i'd like to know


 No.800833

>>800670

It works fine with Tor, but you need JS. Yandex translate works fine for Russian, and acceptably for Chinese.


 No.800853

>Ctrl+F: maps

>0 matches found

Alright neckbeards, I know you never leave your home past your lawn and cornershop that sells pringles, but can someone give me an advise on mapping software for Linux and Android and where to download maps from?


 No.800855

>>800853

openstreetmap. but if you want navigation, you are fucked.


 No.800866

>>800855

OSM is a map provider, they don't make standalone software. I think, you still can download raw google, yandex and bing maps somewhat freely, but you need software to display them. I do remember a bunch of navigation softwares for CarPCs from 10 years ago. How's the situation today?


 No.801526

>>800853

for mobile: maps.me and osmand


 No.801621

>>800866

You can use OSM with marble.

That's the best solution I would say.

I'm look forward downloading the whole map, and try to make it pure offline.

I'm looking forward doing the same with wikipedia. No need for any search to appear online anymore.


 No.803737

qupzilla


 No.803741

>>803737

This is probably the best browser if you're looking for one that has no connection to Firefox or Chromium. You can even make extensions for it, although as of right now you have to recompile the browser to add them.


 No.803775

>>803741

>no connection to Firefox or Chromium

but it uses qtwebengine, so basicly blink from chromium


 No.803781

>>803775

Except that QtWebEngine has the Google parts stripped out, and is verified to not open any unexpected connections (especially not to Google).


 No.803849

>>803781

That's what I mean. No Jewgle botnet. Unfortunately right now, it also lacks a lot of features and extension stuff compared to other browsers (I think the only thing you really get is an adblocker), and is currently in the middle of a change into KDE Falkon. On the plus side, it supports just about every autistic OS you could imagine. If you look on the website, they even make versions for stuff like OS/2 and Haiku.

>Just wait, it'll get ported to Temple OS


 No.803854

>>780351

know a good firewall and antivirus to replace comodo?


 No.803864

Alternatives to the Pixel 2 XL that isn't Apple or Samsung? I like the OLED 1440p Screen though.


 No.804116

File: 1d83e6e2e70280d⋯.jpg (18.26 KB, 536x301, 536:301, 5f6c05d1e3e607a95bb66310a1….jpg)

I actually enjoy Opera


 No.806343

Nice


 No.806345

>>800833

can it do nip?




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