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No.779677

>Ad blocking is under attack

>Well, this is huge, so I'd like to draw your attention to what's happening right now. This is a very alarming case, and it concerns every ad blocker user.

>

>Brief introduction into ad blocking

>To understand better what's happened, you should first learn a bit more about ad blocking. Every ad blocker work is based on using so-called >filters lists, which are maintained (mostly) by volunteers. That said, whichever ad blocker you use, credits for actual ad blocking belong to the >filter lists maintainers. The most popular filters list is called EasyList and this is what this story is about.

>

>Got it, so what happened?

>Yesterday a strange commit landed in the EasyList repo. The "functionalclam.com" domain was removed with a comment "Removed due to >DMCA takedown request". An ad server was unblocked by all ad blockers due to a DMCA request. Let that sink in for a moment...

>

>A small research was conducted by the community in the comments section of that commit. It appears that the story began 23 days ago with a >comment by a freshly registered Github account to the commit that added "functionalclam.com" to EasyList. @dmcahelper threatened with "the >file or repository disruption," but his threats were not taken seriously that time. The domain in question hosts an image describing its work as >"used by digital publishers to control access to copyrighted content in accordance with the DMCA and understand how visitors are accessing >their copyrighted content".

>

>However, further research showed that this domain hosts the code of an anti-adblocking startup Admiral, so we can assume that it is the >company we should blame for this. Where did they get this glorious idea? The wording of the original comment from 23 days ago reminds me >awfully of this post claiming that DMCA can be applied to ad blockers.

>

>Why should I care?

>This might set a very important precedent of an advertising company exploiting DMCA to force people to see their ads, and can lead to ridiculous >consequences if left unnoticed. EasyList is a community project and may not be able to protect themselves from such an attack. I am calling on >other ad blockers developers, you people and everybody else concerned about people's rights (EFF, please) to stand up to this threat and >protect ad blocking.

>

>UPD (11 Aug, 8:09GMT): EFF representative offered their help to EasyList maintainers.

>UPD (11 Aug, 11:34GMT): Filters maintainers commented on the situation:

>

>"We received a DMCA request from Github, as the server in question may've been used as Anti-Adblock Circumvention/Warning on some >websites. To keep transparency with the Easylist community, the commit showed this filter was removed due to DMCA. We had no option but to >remove the filter without putting the Easylist repo in jeopardy. If it is a Circumvention/Adblock-Warning adhost, it should be removed from Easylist >even without the need for a DMCA request.

>

>In regards to Adblock-Warning/Anti-adblock, the amount of filters being added recently to Easylist has been greatly limited due to issues like this. >As list authors we have to be careful in what we add. We'll certainly look at our legal options and it will be contested if we get DMCA requests for >any legit adservers or websites that use DMCA as a way to limit Easylist's ability to block ads."

No.779678

No.779683

No.779684

>>779677

If everything goes wrong, there will always be an illegal way to circumvent it, so, at individual level there would be no problem.

Now, if you're hoping for some major union of peoples using AdBlockers to destroy the Ad Industry, and if you believe this move could open doors and be successful in destroying AdBlockers (I'm referring to the legal action) then your hopes may very well be crushed, or at least lowered. I'm cheering for the best, for this abomination of legal action to be an isolate case and die there.

No.779685

>>779684

If managed illegally, the list quality would be nowhere near what it is now.

No.779689

>>779685

The Mother-of-All-Ad-Blocking disagrees with you.

No.779700

Adblocking was never smart since the lists could easily get compromised. Even if they don't, it's still wasteful - checking every request against a list? And then people complain about their browsers being slow.

The smart person's way is uMatrix, since ads almost always come from third party servers. That is, until the advertisers get smart and start putting ads on the websites themselves.

No.779710

The problem is that people haven't DDOSed functionalclam.com off the internet forever.

How else will they know they're in the wrong?

No.779712

File: cc7ef36afc62cdd⋯.png (36.12 KB, 1159x657, 1159:657, ublock.png)

>>779683

Pardon my being a dumbass, do I just pop 'em into Ublock origin's "my filters" like pic related?

No.779727

>>779700

>checking every request against a list?

Fast as fuck if the list was compiled into a proper fast-lookup structure beforehand (uBlock does this).

No.779730

>>779712

You could, but then you won't get any updates. Better paste the URL in the field on the bottom of the "3rd-party filters" tab.

No.779731

>>779677

gas the kikes race war now

No.779732

Do any of you buddies have a botnet at your disposal? Why don't you DDoS the hell out of it?

No.779743

>>779732

>oy vey just do something illegal to prove them right goyim

No thanks, schlomo.

No.779747

>>779727

I don't know about that. It can't be faster than just checking whether it's "third party" or "not third party".

No.779766

>greentexting everything

>>>/4chan/

>>>/reddit

>>>/srz/

No.779771

>>779747

A proper data structure makes a massive difference.

~> python3 -m timeit -s 'l = list(range(100000))' '50000 in l'100 loops, best of 3: 8.55 msec per loop~> python3 -m timeit -s 's = set(range(100000))' '50000 in s'1000000 loops, best of 3: 0.61 usec per loop~> python3 -m timeit -s 'l = list(range(100000))' '"foo" in l'10 loops, best of 3: 26.2 msec per loop~> python3 -m timeit -s 's = set(range(100000))' '"foo" in s'1000000 loops, best of 3: 0.323 usec per loop

No.779776

>>779747

It's absolutely negligible, even with millions of entries to check.

No.779790

>>779700

>That is, until the advertisers get smart and start putting ads on the websites themselves.

there is a reason they dont do this

No.779806

File: d31380826166be6⋯.jpg (111.52 KB, 1000x906, 500:453, d31380826166be6edf3c73aad4….jpg)

(((intellectual property))) strikes again

No.779807

>>779677

How is this even possible ?

DMCA refers normally to something that is owned/copyrighted.

But in this case the adfilter list isn't owned by the said DMCA requesters.

No.779808

>what are the following:

<editing the hosts file

<setting up firewalls

<blocking through router

No.779809

>>779807

>How is this even possible?

More or less they're claiming the website is hosted "as a means of verifying copyright" and therefore by blocking it they are belligerently and knowingly "working around established copyright law/framework" thus violating copyright law. It's an abuse of the legal system is what it is.

At least that's what I came to think based on the wording of the article. I'll go look it up and see if I get better results.

No.779810

File: 8b2ba773d5a3106⋯.png (8.52 KB, 917x244, 917:244, easylist-dmcahelper.png)

>>779809

>>779807

More or less pic related.

No.779811

File: 58854c8d7da2fb5⋯.png (9.42 KB, 724x476, 181:119, Screen Shot 2017-08-13 at ….png)

in the meantime, why not also report github accounts which are affiliated with that shit (or pretend to)

No.779812

>>779809

> they're claiming the website is hosted "as a means of verifying copyright" and therefore by blocking it they are belligerently and knowingly "working around established copyright law/framework" thus violating copyright law

I though about it but it technically seems ridiculous to assume because if validate by a court that means that firewall rules can also be listed has such.

Meaning that it's illegal to block X malware domain.

No.779813

>>779790

which reason?

No.779815

>>779813

>which reason?

Being on the right side if the media take this into the news.

The thing is that DDOS is always showed to be the "BAD" guys weapons on the news.

If you want to win you need to look like a poor defenceless creature that is being abused by the bad guys.

No.779816

>>779812

It is, and silly courts will likely make an exception for ad URLs while enforcing common sense for Malware, eventually leading to shit like how it's illegal for Intel or Sanmina to counterattack Chinese hackers because it's considered "electronic warfare."

No.779817

Here's an archive of the page: https://archive.fo/3Yb07

No.779818

>>779817

Another interesting link, polite sage for multi-posting: https://archive.fo/0YJct

No.779819

>>779815

It was not about DDoS. You answered a wrong question…

No.779820

No.779825

>>779678

>punlishers have lost \$ to adblock this year alone

>normie users have thrown away their computers XXXXXXXXX time this year alone thanks to ad-malware

>normie users have lost their privacy YYYYYYYY times this year alone thanks to datamining-ads

Clearly users are in the wrong :^)

Anyway I'm manually adding the DMCA removed websites to all my users/pcs.

No.779827

>>779820

>implying archive.is is a mere link shortener

No.779828

>>779710

lazy-man's DoS:

>run it at max intensity

Much better than blindly ping flooding, it pathfinds its way around all valid urls and eats up cpu time on the server.

No.779888

>>779827

It allows others to see what the original link is, even if the link dies, and it allows Tor users to read the original link or archive it using archive.org, since archive.is apparently has to use kikeflare.

No.779892

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>>779820

Never.

No.779906

>>779732

Why not go after the physical persons behind it?

No.779964

>>779683

No.779969

No.779973

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No.779980

>>779888

>all these autistic reasons

Why don't you An Hero yourself instead, you faggot?

No.779981

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>>779973

>trillions of trash domains registered for ad-serving purposes

how can the internet ever be cured of the ad cancer?

No.779991

>>779981

The same way as the real world. Gas. Lots of gas.

No.780032

>>779973

>get a regex that might have false positives for the domain name

>if it matches fetch the main site

>check if it has that image

Also like some guy there said, LE cert lists. Then you can automate building the domain lists.

No.780033

Hey, these look a lot like malware C2 domains. What if we'd just send in abuse reports to them?

No.780050

I have never used a prefab filter list and I dunno why there aren't more people like me. I built up my list from scratch because I like to have complete control over what I do and don't see.

No.780053

Clearly whitelists are the answer

No.780056

>>780053

Two things.

One how would you turn a *bsd pf into a whitelist. Two do these idiots really think they can take down these lists? They will just recirculate by sneakernet.

No.780059

>Host Easylist outside of the USA

>Problem solved

Alternatively, ignore it altogether since it's a fucking retarded claim and those ad kikes should be gassed.

No.780061

>>780056

>sneakernet

Why do /tech/ anons always have to use the most obtuse and complicated solution?

>upload the list to pastebin

>upload it again if it gets taken down

No.780071

>>780061

>keep doing it

>go to jail

Top idea

No.780075

>>780071

>upload file to website repeatedly

>someone will be close enough to your autism/stupidity level to spend the money on legal counsel to subpoena that site owner, then your ISP, then file suit and try to prosecute you over a text file containing a list of fucking DNS names

No.780081

>>780071

>use tor

>don't go to jail

>use one of the millions of proxies

>don't go to jail

>phonepost it from mcdonalds wifi

>don't go to jail

>use a site that isn't in the us

>don't go to jail

Are you starting to see a pattern here?

No.780083

>>780081

<use tor

<don't go to jail

>tards actually believe this

No.780088

>>780083

>the nsa would waste their precious zero day exploits on a fucking text file uploaded by someone who might not even live in the US

No.780118

>>779980

Guess how I know you're a crossboarder

No.780120

>>780088

Yes, they are that stupid in their (((leadership))).

No.780124

>>780120

And what exactly would they do? There is no DMCA here (nor functioning police), and it's probably not illegal in the US either.

No.780130

So uh, what exactly is wrong

You can still block the ads manually.

No.780139

>>780130

What's wrong here is the typical autistic overreaction over a list. It's nothing, all you have to do is put it back on.

No.780151

>>780139

>imblying most users will know they have to do that

No.780179

>>780139

>>780130

It's DMCA censorship.

No.780196

>>780130

>What's wrong with censorship, goy. You can still circulate banned material underground.

No.780199

Why don't we just dox these faggots? They make their names public and they don't seem to have prior experience, the CEO even runs a blog and seems terribly naive. Creating a reputation of "you're taking a risk working for this company" would decrease their talent supply.

No.780600

>>780199

>implying they're not the jewiest jews whose reputation can't get any worse than it is already.

No.780658

>>779683

Someone with a copy, please reupload this over IPFS

No.780659

No.780661

>>779747

hash tables are O(1)

No.780672

>>780658

>>780659

/ipfs/QmbRh9nzqKvDZZTgJvnmw6uyZWg11Y2ncUxpZMEU2CdPeT

No.780691

>>780659

Now someone convert it into host file format because I'm too lazy to thank you very much

No.780695

No.780698

>>780600

Jews still don't appreciate getting their SSNs posted.