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No.929753

(((Go))) now has a CoCk. Gofags BTFO, C master race.

https://golang.org/conduct

It was created by jewgle, what did anyone expect honestly?

The Go CoCk bans, among other things, "microaggressions" and "unwelcome sexual attention" (NoHugsBSD).

No.929755

I can't believe they expect people to follow basic politeness norms, how awful

No.929756

There is literally nothing wrong with CoCs. Their purpose is to keep discussion on-topic and to prevent drama, which enhances productivity as it prevents community members from spending development time on flamewars.

No.929757

>>929755

>sarcasm

Excuse me, that violated my right to feel accepted in this community

No.929759

>>929756

Did you not read the OP?

>bans microagressions

Basically, (((they))) will ban everyone they don't like for "microagressions" while hating le ebil straight white men and calling for more trannies and wummens.

CoCs in practice are always used to push (((liberal agenda))). Actual productive projects are made up of white people who can get shit done in a civil manner without the need for a CoCk being shoved up their ass.

No.929761

>hundreds of CoC projects are productive and widely used today

>hundreds of /tech/ projects never got past the logo

🤔

No.929762

>>929757

If you're posting about technology on an edgy anonymous internet forum then you can expect to be verbally assaulted. It's part of the deal. Some people want spaces where they can harass each other, and that's ok.

But there's no reason why that has to be part of the golang open sores experience™, so it's best to keep it out.

>>929759

Do you have an example of someone being unreasonably banned because of a code of conduct?

No.929764

>>929761

So that's what we needed all along! A Code of Conduct! That'll make /tech/ projects succeed.

No.929766

>>929761

Most of these projects weren't started under the cancerous influence of a CoCk. The CoCk corrupted them after they were already established.

What you are suggesting is analogous to saying that kikes are good for society because the best societies are being targeted by kikes.

No.929767

>>929762

>"""microaggressions""" are verbal assault!

>durr hurr microagressions are HARASSMENT goysguys!

you're missing the point aren't you

No.929768

>>929761

Consider yourself a CoC sucka.

No.929774

>>929767

I don't think microaggressions are verbal assault, I do think they're bad for these projects.

No.929775

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>>929774

>neurosuggesting """microaggressions""" can be bad for anything

No.929776

>>929753

>say you hate pedophiles on a public account

>get banned

Who thought this was a good idea to implement?

No.929777

File: 853842157e896e8⋯.jpg (103.64 KB, 866x1280, 433:640, cianiggers.jpg)

>>929755

>>929756

>>929762

>>929774

They're out in full force today.

No.929778

No.929779

>>929778

>the least well designed and least readable website I've seen in the past year

No.929780

>>929756

Yes, listen to this man wearing a skirt explain us how awesome and beneficial CoC's are.

Or perhaps listen to this excellent presentation from "Open Source & Feelings" conference

No.929782

>(((Go))) now has a CoCk.

>now

https://blog.golang.org/conduct-2018

>In November 2015, we introduced the Go Code of Conduct.

>First, the new code of conduct makes clear that people who participate in any kind of harassment or inappropriate behavior, even outside our project spaces, are not welcome in our project spaces. This means that the Code of Conduct applies outside the project spaces when there is a reasonable belief that an individual’s behavior may have a negative impact on the project or its community.

>Second, in the place of the working group, the new code of conduct introduces a single Project Steward who will have explicit training and support for this role. The Project Steward will receive reported violations and then work with a committee, consisting of representatives from the Open Source Programs Office and the Google Open Source Strategy team, to find a resolution.

Good thread, OP. I'm really glad that ring allows shit like this.

No.929784

>>929782

>First, the new code of conduct makes clear that people who participate in any kind of harassment or inappropriate behavior, even outside our project spaces, are not welcome in our project spaces.

Here's the only important part of all of this. Neolibs want to put the whole world under the purview of HR so that the project to dissolve all barriers can't be questioned anywhere without severe consequences.

No.929791

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>omg wtf i cant call a trans woman a trannie?

>i cannot degrade a person based on their race, gender or sexual identity?

wtf this needs to end now

No.929792

>>929791

>calling OP out for being a meanie

>posts a homophobic picture

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

No.929818

>>929755

Your argument is as fallacious as "If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear."

No.929822

>>929791

>wtf I can't contribute without implicitly accepting leftist bullshit

>>929792

>homophobic

Slow down on the newpseak, faggot.

No.929824

>>929818

I still haven't seen an example of CoCs doing more than upholding basic politeness.

The most I've seen is examples where CoCs didn't do enough - where someone was kept around despite violating the CoC, or the Drupal incident where people tried very hard to expel someone but were initially stopped by the CoC because the person in question hadn't broken it.

I keep seeing threads sounding the alarm bells because some project adopted a CoC, but I haven't seen any follow-ups that justify the panic.

No.929825

>>929755

(((Norms))). Entertaining and encouraging jewish-invented mental illness and deviances is not normal.

Why do they keep pushing "the new normal" meme?

>Faggotry

>This is the new normal goy! Accept it!

>Faggotry for children

>No no this is the new normal!

The semitic stairs of cultural marxism.

No.929833

>>929824

How's the weather in Langley?

No.929836

>>929753

>neurodiversity

>body size

hahaha into the loo with go

No.929867

>>929824

CoCs are legally worthless. It's placebo that only gives illusions of "more" legitimacy power to those who add it when they already have it.

Drupal is not the only incident this was already discussed to death in a lot of threads like the "FreeBSD internal discussion leaks" or another one in which some anon dumped lots of links but I lost it. Btw please do likewise by providing that they have a positive effect from before their introduction, I'm pretty astounded that we are the ones who needs to defend our position when external contractors are the ones who impose this. The burden of proof are on those who started the cocs.

> but were initially stopped by the CoC

And the CoC did not stop them from removing the guy even tho the guy was normally protected by the CoC great mimic of unfair IRL jurisdiction but without real jurisdiction.

No.929872

>>929867

I think CoCs are somewhere between mildly harmful and mildly beneficial. I haven't found any reason to believe they're anywhere near harmful enough to justify the standard /tech/ response.

No.929875

>>929872

>I haven't found any reason

you haven't looked

No.929876

>>929875

I have, and I haven't found anything. I keep asking, and I don't receive anything relevant.

Can you give me one (1) example of someone being unfairly expelled from a project because of a claimed CoC violation?

No.929879

>>929876

>I have

You're a liar.

No.929884

>Go

>lanugage has been sent to Golag

No.929886

>>929879

Do you have an example? If CoCs are actually as much of a problem as you suggest, it shouldn't be hard to provide any. I'm asking for just one. I keep asking this, every fucking thread, and I only get the same examples of CoCs not being applied when they should have been. That is a problem - I think codes of conduct are mostly instated for signaling purposes, and have very little effect - but it's entirely different from the problem people keep claiming.

I've gone from being against CoCs and posting eggplant meems to being indifferent about CoCs themselves and being annoyed by CoC discourse because they don't seem to really do anything.

No.929887

>>929872

> I haven't found any reason to believe they're anywhere near harmful enough to justify the standard /tech/ response.

I haven't found any reason to believe they're anywhere near beneficial enough to justify the standard adding of cocs in projects.

No.929890

>>929887

I agree. Their main use is to mark inclusiveness with a handy filename visible in the project root on Guthip, not to actually ensure it in any way.

I'm arguing against the /tech/ response, not in favor of CoCs.

No.929892

>>929886

The reason for not wanting or to shill against cocs is simple, if someone wants one that means that he/she is probably a social justice promoter thus it is recommended to not have such people in the project.

Of course some sjw can work in projects who do not have such set of rules but once it's proposed the sjws in the projects will either ask for it and if you don't add it they'll go away and defame you and the project (defamation will occur even before your response).

By itself it a repellent to social justice people when you don't add it and it's a magnet to social justice people when you add it.

No.929895

>>929892

I think that's a reasonable objection given that you want to keep those people out. But it's not the objection most of /tech/ seems to have, and I don't think it justifies the response to Go's CoC.

No.929903

>>929886

>example of someone being unfairly expelled from a project because of a claimed CoC violation?

<unfairly

<expelled

<CoC violation

just lol

>I only get the same examples of CoCs not being applied

oy vey true CoCs have never been applied

No shit.

>>929890

>not in favor of CoCs

nah you're indifferent which is why you post in every thread.

No.929906

>>929903

I don't care much about CoCs themselves, but I'll freely admit to being bothered by the endless threads.

Do you have an example? Do examples exist?

No.929916

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>>929753

Remember, OP: always read before posting. We already had a thread full of absolutely brain-dead untermensches crying about 9front’s non-existent CoC. As for this case: nowhere does it mention anything that starts with “trans”, “homo” or “xeno” and terms like “microaggression” are explicitly defined. If you want to contribute to the Go project then, please, behave yourself. Just using the language doesn’t require respecting any codes of conduct. And if you just want to have an off-topic discussion then go to >>>/b/ or some other equivalent. Oh, and don’t forget to end your miserable life for this shit thread, OP.

No.929936

>>929916

>9front’s non-existent CoC

>>929906

Yeah zhe really don't care, I can tell.

No.929968

Go is an absolute joy to work with. I don't care how many tranny bull dyke women of color use it. I care about programming. Haters can fuck off or use something else if they don't like it. No one is forcing you to use Go and a stupid CoC that most programmers will never read probably does not affect you, so why do you even care?

No.929977

File: e08899500a79d57⋯.jpg (246.63 KB, 700x800, 7:8, angeredjew.jpg)

    Be friendly and welcoming    Be patient        Remember that people have varying communication styles and that not everyone is using their native language. (Meaning and tone can be lost in translation.)     Be thoughtful        Productive communication requires effort. Think about how your words will be interpreted.        Remember that sometimes it is best to refrain entirely from commenting.     Be respectful        In particular, respect differences of opinion.     Be charitable        Interpret the arguments of others in good faith, do not seek to disagree.        When we do disagree, try to understand why.     Avoid destructive behavior:        Derailing: stay on topic; if you want to talk about something else, start a new conversation.        Unconstructive criticism: don't merely decry the current state of affairs; offer—or at least solicit—suggestions as to how things may be improved.        Snarking (pithy, unproductive, sniping comments)        Discussing potentially offensive or sensitive issues; this all too often leads to unnecessary conflict.        Microaggressions: brief and commonplace verbal, behavioral and environmental indignities that communicate hostile, derogatory or negative slights and insults to a person or group. 

Oh no how terriibblle! How come the goyim want us to be nice? I'll show them. I'll call them Jewish! There, now the goyim will never support those nazis again.

No.930033

>>929916

Lurk moar, if you know about CoC it INFERS the things that you denies regarding “trans”, “homo” or “xeno” and terms like “microaggression”.

>>>/pol/

>>929977

Kvetching shlomo?

>Snarking

>Discussing potentially offensive or sensitive issues

Which will not apply to whites being shat on (see the James Damore dossier)

No.930041

You double-cianigger, GO was cancer from day one.

No.930046

>>929977

>Remember that people have varying communication styles

So, if my communication style is overtly confrontational, are you being culturally insensitive or culturally imperialistic in telling me to not be confrontational?

>Interpret the arguments of others in good faith, do not seek to disagree

Unless what you said can be interpreted as disagreeing with a progressive sacred cow ("women's rights").

>>930033

>Which will not apply to whites being shat on

So true. Want to discuss how Africa's poverty is a result of European colonialism? Okay. Respond by saying that the rise of Asia shows that Africa's problems are cultural (an attribute of its people) and not the fault of Europe. That's offensive.

No.930067

>>ever caring about another scripting language designed for idiots rather than productivity in mind

No.930150

>>929825

IMAGINE MY SHOCK XD

No.930159

So when a whole language has a CoC, does that mean evey project ever has to follow those rules, or does it mean only the mailing list, official forum or whatever has to?

No.930174

>>930046

>are you being culturally insensitive or culturally imperialistic

Oh for fuck's sake...

No.930189

>>930159

mailing list, official forum, and I'm guessing that contributions will only be accepted if they don't violate the cock

No.930201

>This Code of Conduct is adapted from the Contributor Covenant, version 1.4, available at https://www.contributor-covenant.org/version/1/4/code-of-conduct.html

<The Contributor Covenant was created by Coraline Ada Ehmke, a tranny who is a self-described "Notorious Social Justice Warrior"

No.930206

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>>929755

>>929756

CoCs achieve neither of those, and they have nothing to do with tech. Prevent drama and flaming by creating a document that is both of those things? You don't prevent fires by lighting a match. Drama and flaming is now integral part of Golang thanks to CoC. Basic politeness? Ostracising, inequal treatment let alone shaming people is not polite in their own rules and that's what CoCs do by setting protections of certain groups higher than others. That's why every thinking white male and east-asian male who knows what's up blinks three times before committing any time to project like that, that's when it starts going downhill and never recovers. Even worse, most of their jargon is wide open to interpretion. CoCs usually establish "policy" on purpose, so they can have political cadres to police something arbitarily, and that is by design. They don't establish strict, easy to follow, easy to understand rules. That's what there used to be instead of mushy CoCs. When rules are such and left to no interpretion, those politically motivated tyrannical power hungry busybodies calling themselves community managers and other such nice sounding terms have nobody to bully. CoC being very arbitary on its rules can and will be used to smoke out political undesirables, while letting fellow leftists off the hook for even worse acts against their own rules, Vox Day has written of this with examples. What those politically motivated extremists do understand, and arguably why they ultimately do this is it allows incompetent non-techies entry into technology career and its lucrative wages and nice stamp on CV. This spreading CoC plague is direct result of tech companies seeking new blood from humanities in hopes of gaining some new insights and competitive edge. Instead they get this. Those people are not competent, they can't do anything, but oh boy did they find a good way to appear doing their hardest to appear worth getting big bucks in a position where giving their useless ass boot would end up in hysterical news coverage, just think what would happen if google booted some completely useless diversity and inclusivity manager and didn't hire another one.

No.930209

>>929755

CoCk sucker

No.930213

>>930201

PARTIAL LIST OF PROJECT THAT ADAPT THAT COVENANT:

>Node-RED http://archive.fo/AhVUT

>MediaArea (the makers of MediaInfo) http://archive.li/Upecq

>TensorFlow http://archive.fo/snQHk

>Storj http://archive.fo/y41Dt

>freedesktop.org http://archive.fo/cgXbQ

>DFINITY http://archive.fo/bYd7u

>T-Mobile Open Source http://archive.fo/21tTe

>Ruby on Rails (where Coraline is one such dev) http://archive.fo/TkNID

>Neutrino JS http://archive.fo/yUMmK

>Chromium http://archive.fo/V93Gm

>(((DigitalOcean))) http://archive.fo/bWsEo

>CoreOS http://archive.fo/vK1Rz

>Tingbot http://archive.fo/1Ekk5

>MKVToolnix http://archive.fo/h2brP

>Wikimedia http://archive.fo/W0HXe

>Mastodon http://archive.fo/MIzDV

And many more: http://archive.fo/fcVt6

A deconstruction of that covenant can be found at http://archive.fo/BJ2kt

No.930215

>>930213

Mozilla has a CoCk as well: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/governance/policies/participation/

although it doesn't say it's derived from the CCCC.

No.930217

>>930213

>MKVToolnix

Now that's a surprise to me. Not only nobody contributes to this project but the guy behind it doesn't even follow this CoC from what I've seen.

No.930219

>>930213

>Tensorflow

Just use Keras or Gluon, avoid the cancer outright.

No.930228

>>930213

Here is a shortlist

>Mastodon

Use the Pawoo fork or just use GNUSocial

Fuck, like is this supposed to be what poo-in-loos use?

>MyBB

Not going to comment on ancient tech

>Storj

>Node-RED

fuck em'

>AngularJS and Babel

Use React and ES6

>curl

UNIX fags boo hoo

>Eclipse

Get JetBrains or Emacs

>Gitlab

>Golang, Swift and Ruby

Eat shit to all three, Kotlin, Python and Flutter

>Cocoa

Use a real package manager

>Guix

GNU is cancer at this point, KDE Neon.

>Mono

JVM, or no bytecode emulation at all.

>RocketChat

Use matrix.ordoevangelistarum.com

>Sass

LESS and YAML, how about that?

No.930278

>>930228

>Use the Pawoo fork or just use GNUSocial

Or Pleroma or PostActiv.

No.930291

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>>929756

>>929755

Were is the proofs?

No.930296

THE OPEN SOURCE COMMUNITEEEEEEE

No.930300

>>929762

>Do you have an example of someone being unreasonably banned because of a code of conduct?

https://archive.fo/dgilk

No.930301

>>930300

As dumb as that is, was he actually banned from anywhere? I notice he was a speaker at Djangocon 2017, and Eric Raymond makes no mention of him being banned anywhere in his blog post.

No.930304

>>930301

They tried to threaten him into submission. They said they'd remove him from whatever positions he held un;ess he ceased his wrongthink.

That's the mob you're defending and associating yourself with.

No.930307

>>930304

I used to be strongly against CoCs, but I still haven't seen any example of the kind I asked for. As far as I can tell they're just hot air.

That doesn't make them good, but I can't bring myself to care much any more about whether a project has a CoC.

No.930355

>>930228

>>Guix

>KDE Neon

What in the fuck are you?

No.930356

>>930301

Post an example of anyone ever actually being unreasonably banned from anywhere?

Anyone. Because as far as I can tell this has never happened. I've looked everywhere but this has never happened.

No.930374

>>930307

Nobody really cares about CoCs since if it bothers anyone they can just fork the repository and maintain their own version with zero interaction with these people. It's the back channel that matters. The between the lines. The increasing acceptance of the idea that code isn't the primary focus of the activity.

Look at ayo.js. It's a pathetic fork that accomplished absolutely nothing precisely because it was started over political grounds. That is the future of open source.

No.930707

>>930355

Grab the GNoose if you want, not my prob.

No.930804

>>929755

Its actually really fucked up that they updated it to police actions outside of the community. If you were a filthy Gaymurgirl Gooblegrappler like most of us were at one point they can ostricize you on the pretense of ''''''''herassmints'

>>929756

CoCs are used to push political views in projects and make them more exclusive in the name of exclusivity. Projects that use them belong in the trash.

No.931409

>>929777

checked

No.931615

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>>929777

>posting terry

>godly TRIPS of holiness

Praise be to Terry the King

No.931617

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>>929753

i've made a introduction-pasta to deal with this kind of shit.

Hello everyone, my chosen name is GodHitler!

I was so happy to find out that this website now adopts a Code of Conduct, so i decided to create an account to try to help the community.

I'm a Divine Being mixed with a Spiritual Ressurection that was, unfortunately, born stuck in the body of a POZ female black homossexual human-beast otherkin trans-male.

My preferred pronoums are "His Higness The King" / "His Highness the King".

When i was a child i suffered from "continued epileptical conversionism", meaning i had epileptic attacks whenever someone kept talking after i spoke, instead of being silenced and reflecting upon my holy words. This means that ANY comment made after i post in a thread triggers me, so please REFRAIN from VIRTUALLY HARRASSING ME and LITERALLY KILLING ME by NOT commenting after i've made a comment on any post.

My other triggers include: 9/11, ableism, abusive relationships, ageism, alcoholism, amputation, animal abuse, animal death, animal violence, bestiality, blood, bodies, body horror, bones, branding, bullying, capitalism, cannibalism, car accident, child abuse, childbirth, classism, computers, communism, cyberbullying, death, decaptation, dentral trauma, domestic abuse, drinking, drug use, eating disorder, fatphobia, forced captivity, graphic sex, guns, holocaust (i lost), homophobia, hospitalisation, hostages, hunting, insects, incest, kidnapping, medical procedures, misgender, murder, nazis (we lost), needles, operating systems, overdose, pedophilia, poisoning, pregnancy, prostitution, PTSD, racism, rape, ritualistic self-harm, richard stallman, scarification, self-harm (in general), serious injury, sexism, sexual abuse, skeletons, skulls, slavery, slurs, smoking, snakes, spiders, socialism, suicide, swearing, terminal illness, terrorism, torture, transphobia, violence, vomit, warfare, weapons, windows.

I hope to get along well with any other

No.931620

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>>931617