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File: e16f8db7446ea75⋯.png (21.96 KB, 1280x800, 8:5, I3_window_manager_screensh….png)

 No.980055

Can someone explain to me in simple terms what the point of tiling WMs is?

 No.980057

You don't have to use your mouse as much. It's pretty nice if you can get used to it.


 No.980058

Not having to drag & drop windows.


 No.980059

>>980058

>>980057

But how often do you need to have split windows open? Isn't it much smarter to just use a floating WM and tab between windows?


 No.980060

>>980059

I monitor my VPN like that, I need 5 windows open.

mtr from the local PC to the remote PC

local iftop and htop and remote iftop and htop


 No.980075

Will i become a neckbeard if i use a tiling WM?


 No.980094

>>980075

No, but if tiling WMs appeal to you then you're already on the path to neckbeardism.


 No.980096

File: a016168a3022e09⋯.jpg (12.72 KB, 252x255, 84:85, 908cd8d507b459d2ae9322d402….jpg)

>>980094

i just tried one and i like it a lot


 No.980098

>>980059

In the 16:9 or 16/10 dystopia, splitting the screen at least in half is mandatory. I rarely use more than 3, though.


 No.980100

>>980098

Maybe don't use small pixelshit fonts so your code spaces out over the screen?


 No.980101

It's lightweight, that's about the only benefit for me, I fell for the tilling meme for few years then I realize I can achieve the same result in tmux with TUI softwares, GUI apps are just impratical when you split into quarter of your screen, half is sweetspot but you can achieve that with pretty much any floating wm/de.

>tl;dr

>terminal tilling = tmux

>gui = tile left/right in xfce


 No.980103

>>980101

is it more lightweight than say xfce? is it a good choice for toasters/laptops?


 No.980108

>>980100

There's a good reason books restrict themselves to 70-80 characters per line.

Reading looooooooong lines is extremely uncomfortable.


 No.980111

>>980103

Ofcourse, tiling wm is only a window manager while xfce is a full desktop environment, but both can work on toasters, if anything your browser might have a higher footprint than a full xfce desktop.

You can also use tiling wm inside xfce because xfce is very modular, I've used bspwm + xfce it's very comfy, save me the headache of setting up these meme panel bar.


 No.980112

>>980103

Way more lightweight and I think it's the perfect choice for old laptops. I survived mine installing dwm with void linux.


 No.980148

>>980055

>>980103

I just open a terminal emulator and start tmux. White men use twm or icewm.

>>980103

xfce is the least niggerlicious DE but using a WM, like icewm, is better option.


 No.980153

>>980148

>xfce is the least niggerlicious DE

What is LXDE (or Lxqt, now)?


 No.980156

>>980108

Actually that's done because oldschool terminals could only display 80 characters horizontally


 No.980158

>>980148

>i3 is niggerish because i say so


 No.980164

What's the point of a floating wm?

>hurr durr, I not going to maximize this window, and thereby waste half my monitor

>I need to look at two windows at a time, so Ill put one window on top of the other, halfway covering what I want to see, and whenever I click on the lower window the upper window will disapear behind it

Tiling wms recognize a couple invariants:

- there's no point wasting space showing people their desktop. Maximize by default

- if you want to look at multiple windows at once, they shouldn't overlap (ie they should tile)

- if you want to look at a single window, then you want the rest of the windows to be arranged as tabs (the way my brother does it on mac is to drag windows off to various corners of the screen. This is actually sensible consider how shitty the mac wm is)

- if you really want something to float, the option should be a available, and the floating window should appear above the others

This is all true for i3 ofc, other wms may be different.

Fun fact, windows actually supports a tiling wm, in all but the fourth invariant. This is because tiling wms are superior.


 No.980167

>>980164

Shit nigger, you've got me contemplating going i3 instead of openbox


 No.980168

>>980156

Books are older than display terminals.


 No.980172

>>980167

do it faggot


 No.980184

>>980167

bspwm is superior. Has all the same functionality as i3, but requires way less micromanagement of tiling ratios and splitting.


 No.980189

>>980168

Not programming books though, unless your book was made during the span of time after the creation of a language, but before the invention of display terminals


 No.980193

File: 44fe22bbac1e59c⋯.png (3.61 KB, 185x175, 37:35, Screenshot_2018-09-30_13-2….png)

I used dwm for almost a year and it felt great. Everything other tiling wm felt too either too bloated, tryhard, convoluted, or generally blech.

Eventually went back to OpenBox for everything except my main which is XFCE4 which has a lot more CPU/GPU to burn. Of course I've set up dwm-inspired keybinding to close/maximize/iconify/whatever windows. XFCE4 also has tiling options as well so that's occasionally useful.

Completely agree with >>980101 .


 No.980196

>>980059

Every time I program: Left half is vim, right half is console in the folder I save in to call make, and either chat, email, browser...


 No.980202

File: 5a55ae65509c979⋯.jpg (63.17 KB, 620x455, 124:91, 006.jpg)

>>980153

It's not now, lxde use gtk and lxqt qt, you probably don't have choice because you are using tranny distro instead of Gentoo. And lxde is more lightweight than xfce because it consist of openbox, lxpanel, cpmanfm and some dependences like gvfs.


 No.980203

>>980202

I use Gentoo with bspwm, homo. Just saying that LXDE or LXQt are both more lightweight and usable than XFCE.


 No.980211

File: 07b742b0cfa0683⋯.png (11.4 KB, 500x400, 5:4, 07b742b0cfa0683dddc9446823….png)

>dwm

>suckless

this seems like a meme


 No.980213

>>980055

The ultimate evolution of the command line.


 No.980691

File: 5ce62b2904d36b9⋯.png (36.97 KB, 500x277, 500:277, 1480171029883.png)

help me /tech/

i've completely fallen for the tiling meme

>it literally just works

>it allows me to easily start programs at login and even assign them to workspaces/monitors

>literally the best thing in computing

what's the catch with using a tiling wm? it seems too good to be true


 No.980700

>>980691

>what's the catch with using a tiling wm?

You may wind up buying more monitors to do more things at once.


 No.980701


 No.980715

>use mate

>tile windows by dragging when needed

>don't spend days playing with configuration files


 No.980716

>>980701

>ledditor chink who is anti-CoC


 No.980718

File: 88f11ebb120e8d4⋯.png (196.29 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, scrot.png)

>>980691

They're not as cool as floating wm's. Pic related.

>>980700

What are virtual desktops?

>>980701

>>>/emacs/

I'm actually pretty sure I made a post on there about golden-ratio.el and EXWM basically countering most of Xah's points, but I can't remember.


 No.980721

>>980718

>floating is better

>here is a pic of my shitty ass desktop to prove it

what?


 No.980725

>>980103

XFCE isn't lightweight


 No.980730

>>980725

If you think anything more involved than ratpoison is bloat, no.


 No.980731

>>980691

You can do all of these things in any WM


 No.980739

>>980731

But are those WMs as lightweight?


 No.980749

TWMs personally give me a better workflow of moving between windows.

>>980164

>- if you want to look at a single window, then you want the rest of the windows to be arranged as tabs

Tabs are against the idea of twms. If you want to look at a single window you should just temporally use the monocle view. Else you should just move the windows to another workspace.


 No.980751

>>980721

It's not my desktop. I know it says scrot in the filename, but it's genuinely not. I use EXWM. And that picture is from DeviantArt.

Firstly, you could literally dismiss anything based on its aesthetic appeal. What I wanted to point out was how the headers were on the left-hand side of the window, along with custom images for the buttons on said chrome, whereas, with a tiling wm, you simply wouldn't have chrome. It's not evident in the picture, but FVWM has a lot of different behaviors for how you can interact with floating windows. I don't know what it's called, but there's one behaviour where the window will come into the foreground if you simply hover on it. My point is there's just a little more to work with.

Secondly, I didn't say floating WM's were better; just that they were cooler. It's utterly baffling how tiling WM's get the reputation of being rice-able when there's not even much to work with, unless you literally lobotomize the core utilitarian philosophy of tiling WM's to get retarded abortions like i3-gaps. So many of the presumptions about tiling WM's are just so absurd and ironic, which is why conversations about them elicits such dumb kneejerk reactions.

You can also render little modules which FVWM will draw in a box kind of like the old CWM desktops, but I don't have a picture of that. They're pretty cool, though. Besides Xclock and the typical suspects, I remember there being little modules for displaying system temp in a water bowl full of fish floating around and a clock where kittens played with yarn. Believe it or not, this is all very plan9-esque, and FVWM's the way to go if you want a plan9 desktop–although it is extended in XML and Perl.


 No.980860

>>980716

>>980716

Are you joking? Xah is literally certified baste, not to mention the patron saint of /emacs/. He's like the Asian love child of Piero Scaruffi and Terry Davis.

I can't bring up the logs right now, since it seems like the EmacsWiki is down, but I'm pretty sure he's banned from #emacs for flaming and spamming porn on the channel. Everyone on EmacsWiki and Reddit hates him.


 No.981314

people who use gaps need to be shot


 No.981320

>>980196

I used to do that, then I moved to superior neovim, now my ctrl+b is bound to vsplit, terminal, make.

More room when you're writing the code, side-by-side when you're looking at errors, and you can use # to highlight from console and find in the file.


 No.981329

>>981320

Vim 8.1 has terminals, so you can move back now


 No.981338

File: be79e5eb668bdfa⋯.jpg (65.2 KB, 669x573, 223:191, soyberpunk.jpg)

>>981329

>using *vi*


 No.981577

>>980860

Oh sorry anon but is he acting like an average cuckchanner at least?

EmacsWiki (whose editor is an SJW symphatizer and deleted his twitter some time ago) was hacked anon.


 No.981612

>>981329

(not him) No thanks, the Neovim API alone is a godsent. Not having to sacrifice a black goat on a new moon at midnight when you want to change an option in another window is reason enough to stay with Neovim.

nvim_win_set_option({window}, {name}, {value})         *nvim_win_set_option()*
Sets a window option value. Passing 'nil' as value deletes the
option(only works if there's a global fallback)

Parameters:~
{window} Window handle
{name} Option name
{value} Option value


 No.981635

>>980055

It's better for having more information visible at once. Avoiding having windows on top of other windows can be inherently advantageous since there's no real benefit to that, you always want to either be able to see everything, or you want it maximized. Tiling works especially well with workspaces. You can use tiling bindings in some floating window managers as well if you want to, though. XFWM (the XFCE window manager) has bindings for that (and tiling WMs tend to have floating as well anyway), so if you use that already, you can just bind to something you think is intuitive and try it.


 No.981639

>>980055

it's extremely useful if you are a lazy fuck like me. I am using i3 and it's great. The only problem I have is when I use Virtual Box but there are work arounds for it.

Personally, I tried for sometime and now I cannot change back. I am not a power user though. If it doesn't click to you, do not bother.


 No.981641

>>980860

when I brief 4 months of Emacs (I am not using it anymore), he was my main point of reference for everything. It's a shame he had to work washing dishes because he couldn't find a job. Maybe having turbo autism is a serious problem.


 No.981646

>>980691

>not using .xinitrc to start X programs, as you should

I remember the good times when I was an UNIX noob too.


 No.981654

>>981641

Not having a job and never leaving the house is my solution for that problem. Then again, that's how I solve everything.


 No.981661

They're comfy and simple.


 No.981670

I already maxed out my keyboard shortcuts with xfce and vim and am too involved to change.

Fuck tiling WMs. They break aesthetics and are nothing but a pain in the heinie


 No.981869

>>981646

how do you put them on certain workspaces?


 No.981870

>>980055

If you using a tiling WM, you defeat the idiots who buy dual monitors.


 No.981875

>>981870

What if you use a tiling wm on dual monitors?


 No.981893

>>981875

Stay right where you are


 No.981899

I use i3, but as a floating windows manager. I set all of the windows to float by default. It Just Twerks™. Fight me faggots.


 No.981902

>>981899

post screenshots


 No.981919

>>981899

Why not just use fluxbox?


 No.981920

>>981875

I did this once and it was awful.

Basically just causes unneeded clutter.

>>981899

Why the hell aren't you using an actual floating window manager?


 No.981922

>>981920

>Basically just causes unneeded clutter.

how so?


 No.981926

>>981919

>Why not just use fluxbox?

i3 is most integrated with the distro I use (Qubes) and does everything I need anyway.

>>981920

>Why the hell aren't you using an actual floating window manager?

What would it get me that i3 doesn't and how much more RAM would it use?


 No.981973

>>981926

This is 2018 gramps, no one cares about RAM usage anymore


 No.982289

>>981973

He's using Qubes though; that OS is very memory hungry.


 No.982333

>>982289

Funny story, the Qubes installer is completely broken. I'm pretty sure it's inherited from Red Hat, so that's no surprise.


 No.982411

>>981973

>t.webdev


 No.982563

>>980055

I use it on my laptop so that I don't have to touch my shitty mousepad and have more space on my screen. Also it's easier to map a keyboard shortcut to every program tht I use.


 No.982582

>>980055

left half is code. right half upper 3/4 is documentation. right half lower 1/4 is terminal emulator.


 No.982597

>>980749

>Tabs are against the idea of twms.

That's retarded, and I say that as a man who uses dwm. At least in i3, tab mode is essentially just giving yourself extra workspaces within the one you're currently on, since you can tile more windows within each of them.


 No.982606

>>982597

You can tile inside a tabbed workspace?


 No.982613


 No.982614


 No.982615

>>982614

By just doing it


 No.982616

as a mac user whats the best way to get into tiling wms?


 No.982617

>>982616

install gentoo


 No.982618

>>982615

so you're lying, got it


 No.982619

>>982617

never has this line be more fitting


 No.982621


 No.982640

>>982621

holy shit i3 is amazing, thanks anon


 No.982662

>>982606

$mod+H for horizontal,

$mod+V for vertical

This is how you mix horiz and vert tiling as well, so you should know it.


 No.982669

>>982662

Any way to switch tabs without having to switch through all open splits in the current tab first?


 No.988048

Can somebody help me with BSPWM?

Theses keybinds are really freaking me out.

Some of them is on sxhkdrc but don't work.

Some of them is not there but work.

I'm using this for 30 minutes now, and I can't even resize my windows. What's wrong?


 No.988061

>>988048

you have to send USR1 to sxhkd if you want it to read your new .sxhkdrc

here is how you resize window

bspc node -z left -20 0

change direction and values according to your needs


 No.988066

>>982621

yes, assign a keybinding to selecting a parent and/or mix stacking & tabbing


 No.988067

>>988066 meant for >>982669


 No.988090

>>980718

What's wrong with golden-ratio.el?


 No.988121

You spend 3 years learning keystrokes and getting used to mouse-less computing so that you can be approximately 10% faster when switching between windows. If you plan on spending most of your life in front of a computer (and let's face it: if you're reading this reply then you probably are), then it's probably worth it in the long run. It's sort of like how emacs or vim are harder to learn up-front but they pay dividends down the line.


 No.988175

>>988121

>3 years

How slow in the head are you?


 No.988213

>>988121

3 years is a big exaggeration. By default there are some keybindings which you need to learn, most of them you want to change. Pressing ctrl+shift+whatever or other 3 finger combinations fuck with your hands.

It's true about the learning curve, to be able to use it to your advantage takes time, but that's also the case for linux in general.

I was a long time tiling wm user, but I've fallen for kde and haven't had any ambitions yet to replace kwm. A big advantage of using the keyboard, next to the advantage of not having to use a mouse, is that you'll learn to press both shifts, ctrls and alts to prevent crazy hand movement.


 No.988224

>>988213

>Pressing ctrl+shift+whatever or other 3 finger combinations fuck with your hands.

[citation needed]


 No.988232

is there any WM more comfy than dwm?


 No.988436

>>988213

be a white man and use your right hand for your modifier keys.

It's how emacs stops being shit as well.

You have a right hand, use it.


 No.988445

>>980055

pretty much what

>>980058 and >>980057 said, if your on a laptop then tiling wm's are much better, but if you have a desktop with a mouse, i prefer floating wm's or just a DE


 No.988459

>>988232

exwm is on the top of the comfy end.


 No.988545

File: c396efebc90d523⋯.png (45.78 KB, 1246x1057, 178:151, 2018-10-19-211542_1246x105….png)

>>981320

>>981329

I've made a huge mistake


 No.988557

>>988545

RIP in peace


 No.988719

My i3 setup boots up with 3 Windows on 1 of my monitors, with my other one empty to put whatever I want on them. Once you start using high resolution displays (or don't have the eyesight of a bat that just had it's head beaten in with a baseball bat) you might understand.


 No.991096

>>980055

That is such a sexy font. I wish I knew what it was.


 No.991358

Uses screen real estate efficiently.


 No.991857

>thread on window managers

>104 replies

>2 screencaps

Come on, /g/


 No.991859

>>991096

Looks like Terminus to me.


 No.991863


 No.991864


 No.992047

>>991857

tiling window managers aren't pretty. >>980718 is right. They're functional, in a utilitarian sense. A screencap would show a browser filling the whole screen, with some plaintext status information along the top. If you want pretty, install compwiz or something.


 No.992099

>>980103

>>980725

i switched from xfce to lxde and haven't looked back

xfce is bloat


 No.993369

What's the point in floating windows? With a non tiling wm you spend just too much time dragging windows around, resizing them and so on. With a tiling wm they just snap into place. Sure, you need to make little adjustments but most of the time thigns just fit. And if you need a floating window, you can have on in most tiling wms. But you'd be suprised how little you'll actually want that.

Also in i3 I can bind everything to keys. The config is really easy to edit and everything is just fast and doesn't require me to really think about it.


 No.993571

File: 0800f05d211926c⋯.webm (1.61 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON COM….webm)

>>993369

>With a non tiling wm you spend just too much time dragging windows around, resizing them and so on. With a tiling wm they just snap into place.

Actually you can automate these with customized floating wm, like in openbox I set every new windows to maximized and 4 hotkeys to tile left,right, align center and re-maximize (yes I disabled minimize key, because I don't need it). It felt as snappy as any tiling wm but require less hotkeys. And with wmctrl following this guide http://xahlee.info/linux/linux_add_keyboard_shortcuts_to_switch_to_app.html I don't even need workspace or alt-tab. Just hotkeys to your favourite apps and other less used windows I can switch to it using rofi window switching. Come to think of it I don't even need taskbar anymore, other than systray.

tl;dr

>super comfy setup

>everything is maximized

>split windows in half only when needed

>fast keyboard navigation with minimal hotkeys to remember

>don't have to manage meme tiling layout (which is unusable if you have more than 4 windows)

>don't have to worry about workspaces

>still have enough shortcuts to bind secondary windows-like binding for your luddite family to use


 No.993595

>>993571

Good job, you invented manual tiling.


 No.993604

>>993595

It is, and anything beyond manual tiling is just bloat that achieve the same result.


 No.993607

i3 is goat


 No.993611

>>993604

Bloat is you manually doing something on a fucking computer.


 No.993615

>>993607

Truth: bspwm > spectrwm > dwm > i3


 No.993617

>>993615

how did you reverse it?

i3 > dwm > spectrwm > bspwm


 No.993634

>>993617

i3

>handles bindings, startup commands, bar, window management; not KISS, just for ricers

>IPC is an afterthought and still has some bugs, no client provided and is actually less flexible than bspc (and fucking JSON)

>1,169 KiB tarball, dependency tree:


> equery g '=x11-wm/i3-4.15'
* Searching for i34.15 in x11-wm ...

* dependency graph for x11-wm/i3-4.15
`-- x11-wm/i3-4.15 amd64
`-- dev-libs/libev-4.23 (dev-libs/libev) amd64
`-- dev-libs/libpcre-8.41-r1 (dev-libs/libpcre) amd64
`-- dev-libs/yajl-2.1.0-r1 (>=dev-libs/yajl-2.0.3) amd64
`-- x11-libs/libxcb-1.13.1 (x11-libs/libxcb) amd64 [xkb]
`-- x11-libs/libxkbcommon-0.8.2 (x11-libs/libxkbcommon) amd64 [X]
`-- x11-libs/startup-notification-0.12-r1 (x11-libs/startup-notification) amd64
`-- x11-libs/xcb-util-0.4.0-r1 (x11-libs/xcb-util) amd64
`-- x11-libs/xcb-util-cursor-0.1.3-r2 (x11-libs/xcb-util-cursor) amd64
`-- x11-libs/xcb-util-keysyms-0.4.0-r1 (x11-libs/xcb-util-keysyms) amd64
`-- x11-libs/xcb-util-wm-0.4.1-r2 (x11-libs/xcb-util-wm) amd64
`-- x11-libs/xcb-util-xrm-1.3 (x11-libs/xcb-util-xrm) amd64
`-- x11-misc/xkeyboard-config-2.23.1-r1 (x11-misc/xkeyboard-config) amd64
`-- x11-libs/cairo-1.14.12 (>=x11-libs/cairo-1.14.4) amd64 [X xcb]
`-- x11-libs/pango-1.42.4 (>=x11-libs/pango-1.30.0) amd64 [X]
`-- dev-perl/AnyEvent-7.140.0 (dev-perl/AnyEvent) amd64
`-- dev-perl/X11-XCB-0.170.0-r1 (>=dev-perl/X11-XCB-0.120.0) amd64
`-- dev-perl/Inline-0.800.0 (dev-perl/Inline) amd64
`-- dev-perl/Inline-C-0.780.0 (dev-perl/Inline-C) amd64
`-- dev-perl/IPC-Run-0.960.0 (dev-perl/IPC-Run) amd64
`-- dev-perl/ExtUtils-PkgConfig-1.160.0 (dev-perl/ExtUtils-PkgConfig) amd64
`-- dev-perl/local-lib-2.0.24 (dev-perl/local-lib) amd64
`-- virtual/perl-Test-Simple-1.1.14_p522-r2 (>=virtual/perl-Test-Simple-0.940.0) amd64
`-- x11-base/xorg-server-1.20.3 (x11-base/xorg-server) amd64 [xephyr]
`-- virtual/pkgconfig-0-r1 (virtual/pkgconfig) amd64
`-- app-portage/elt-patches-20170815 (>=app-portage/elt-patches-20170815) amd64
`-- sys-devel/automake-1.16.1-r1 (>=sys-devel/automake-1.16.1) [~amd64 keyword]
`-- sys-devel/automake-1.15.1-r2 (>=sys-devel/automake-1.15.1) amd64
`-- sys-devel/autoconf-2.69-r4 (>=sys-devel/autoconf-2.69) amd64
`-- sys-devel/libtool-2.4.6-r3 (>=sys-devel/libtool-2.4) amd64
`-- x11-apps/xhost-1.0.7 (x11-apps/xhost) amd64
`-- dev-lang/perl-5.24.3-r1 (dev-lang/perl) amd64
`-- dev-perl/AnyEvent-I3-0.170.0 (dev-perl/AnyEvent-I3) amd64
`-- dev-perl/JSON-XS-3.40.0 (dev-perl/JSON-XS) amd64

bspwm

>only manages windows; you want a bar? Use your own (lemonbar). Key bindings? sxhkd. Startup commands? .xinitrc or .xprofile

>IPC is the only way to communicate with it, versatile client provided (bspc)

>Bonus: the configuration is just a shell script: you use IPC to configure bspwm too

>105 KiB tarball, dependency tree:


> equery g '=x11-wm/bspwm-0.9.5'
* Searching for bspwm0.9.5 in x11-wm ...

* dependency graph for x11-wm/bspwm-0.9.5
`-- x11-wm/bspwm-0.9.5 ~amd64
`-- x11-libs/libxcb-1.13.1 (x11-libs/libxcb) amd64
`-- x11-libs/xcb-util-0.4.0-r1 (x11-libs/xcb-util) amd64
`-- x11-libs/xcb-util-wm-0.4.1-r2 (x11-libs/xcb-util-wm) amd64
`-- x11-misc/sxhkd-0.5.9 (x11-misc/sxhkd) ~amd64

This is coming from a longtime i3 user that left the babby stage behing for some time now. I originally left because I wanted automatic splitting length-wise and bspwm provided with the external_rule concept. Now I stay because i3 is not elegant at all; bspwm is truly what the UNIX philosophy is about (if you ignore X running under it, of course).


 No.993635

>>993634

I should also add that bspwm has some features (some I find useless) that i3 users still don't have or have to hack on: gaps and mouse to resize/move windows.


 No.993639

>>993635

>gaps are good

opinion discarded


 No.993650

>>993611

Well you have to manually configure keybind on tiling wm anyway, manually switching between panes, manually switching between workspace and not to forget manually find a way out of the fibonaci layout. oh but it's okay when you do things manually amirite?


 No.993652

>>993650

>manually switch between $thing

you have to do that in either one but i3 makes it easier to achieve imo


 No.994015

>>993635

>>993639

i3 gaps does gaps. Which is nice eye candy and I have a hotkey to turn them off when I need space.

>>993634

I can't remember i3 to have as many dependencies when I installed it. About half as many. Is it really only "amd64" that pulls those in? Either it's you USE flags or I just had them installed in the first place.


 No.994121

>>994015

>I can't remember i3 to have as many dependencies when I installed it. About half as many. Is it really only "amd64" that pulls those in? Either it's you USE flags or I just had them installed in the first place.

If you're really on gentoo, you can check yourself. Another thing that annoyed me with i3 is the default bar not being very customisable. Lemonbar, on the other hand, is truly the hacker's playground.


 No.994134

>>980101

>>terminal tilling = tmux

too resource intensive I found.

screen is good enough without the bloat, even with the mouse scroll issues.


 No.994146

>>994134

how is i3 bloated? name a gui wm that is more bloated


 No.994158

>>994146

You probably mean "less". Read the thread.


 No.994170

>>994146

<tmux vs screen

>what did you say about muh i3!!!

I didn't.


 No.994227

File: a1f89c5862ea904⋯.jpg (153.58 KB, 900x1200, 3:4, bleeding eyes.jpg)

>>980691

The main issue of tiling WMs is when programs don't mix up well with them.

For instance you can't use tabbed tool boxes with gimp because they won't tab with the main window.

>>980718

oh god my eyes it burns ah shit fuk ahhhhh


 No.994236

>>994170

People who use screen over tmux because of mah gnu are the worst.


 No.994305

File: ecb26dbf4658024⋯.png (23.4 KB, 447x339, 149:113, 2018-11-04-140050_447x339_….png)


 No.994326

>>980716

xahlee is the 'one in a billion' Chinaman that I'd be sorry to lose. Wouldn't even shock me if he lurked here.


 No.994345

>>994227

>not using gimp in single windows mode

What year is this?


 No.994426

>>994236

>People who use screen over tmux because of mah gnu are the worst.

>nigger can't into /tech/

>>>/g/


 No.994428

>>994236

>mah gnu

>functional software is bad

JUST.

>Open serial monitor in tmux instead of screen? #4

>termhn commented on Jan 9, 2015

>Any chance of having support for opening the serial monitor in tmux instead of screen?

>PythonNut commented on May 27, 2015

>This is probably because tmux does not support becoming a serial console. (The main developer views it as bloat that violates the UNIX philosophy)

https://github.com/jplaut/vim-arduino-ino/issues/4


 No.994443

> >This is probably because tmux does not support becoming a serial console. (The main developer views it as bloat that violates the UNIX philosophy)

This is a fair argument honestly. Such a weird thing not to support.


 No.994583

>>980059

You're thinking backwards. You rarely need to let something use the whole screen. Especially anything text-based, where letting it have the whole width means having to move your eyes more to read a line of text.


 No.994584

>>980101

I've always used tmux even when using i3wm. I still like that if I kill i3, anything in those terms keeps running. I also have at least one remote tmux session I like to keep open, like one with notes and IRC.


 No.994595

>>988121

more like 3 weeks


 No.994611

File: 254ad6f8c50d7be⋯.jpg (252.19 KB, 797x841, 797:841, Screenshot_20181105-033135….jpg)


 No.994616

>>994611

He's right you know. Microsoft and Apple have entire User Experience departments with million dollar budgets geared entirely towards UI design, user experience, and polish. Because they know the UI is what the user interacts with the most. Most GNU/Linux developers don't have the same mindset of gearing everything towards compelling UI design, since most commercial Linux clients will be working with scripting most of the time anyways and because they are trapped in the mindset of "Well there's a million alternative DEs just pick one you like and customize yourself!" Which isn't a bad thing, but it is a different way of going about it.


 No.994634

>>994616

Windows UI is both bad and inconsistent. They've got like 3 different theme types still in use. Mac OS is pretty good and consistent.


 No.994638

>>994611

Never tried any of the 3 mentioned. I thought gnome looked decent when i used it. This is also the most common DE, so it's funny it isn't brought up.


 No.994639

>>994634

Really they have 2 types, the standard start menu and the aborted mobile interface from Windows 8. Generally speaking the standard start menu interface is tried and true and has never changed. The pre-start menu Windows really isn't relevant so that can be disregarded.


 No.994640

>>994639

There's also smaller inconsistencies in icons and such. Some leftover from ancient Windows versions, some new, and none of the coloring and stuff is consistent.


 No.994642

>>994640

the core of the interface remains consistent, the average person isn't going to autism over old looking icons. this is why GNU/Linux will never compete with interface design.


 No.994643

>>994642

They have two different kinds of interfaces. They have the modern metro style crap, and the old xp style interfaces. If you do anything marginally obscure like regedit you get thrown into the latter.

>this is why GNU/Linux will never compete with interface design.

If the goal is to mix together different themes into a frankensteins monster then linux can compete already. Especially when you get into third party applications. The only people who can complain about interface consistency are macfags.


 No.994644

I think GNU/Linux design can actually be pretty consistent, with GTK or QT themes allowing you to make your graphical applications a consistent color scheme all at once. It's always felt better than Windows to me.


 No.995342

>>994345

Single window mode? Never heard of that. What is it good for anyway? It's good they're seperate windows so you can easily put them on a second screen and use the full first screen to display the actual image.


 No.995343

>>994611

I really don't want people like that to use Linux.


 No.995443

>>994611

>all their apps seems the same

but when he sees something different I bet he'll call it inconsistent, these apple cultist shouldn't be allowed to operate anything with electricity.




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