/tes/ - The Elder Scrolls Discussion

>>10260

2010 reddit called, it wants its memes back.

The open world 'you can do everything' bullshit has to stop. Elder scrolls is an RPG, not an adventure game.

The point of an RPG is customization and to a lesser degree, freedom, but that doesn't mean being able to finish the college of winterhold without knowing shit about magic.

Well Skyrim is objectively better than Fallout 4 in every way besides graphics, animations and some voice acting. The story, the guilds, the factions, the lore, the gameplay, the RPG elements, et all are better in Skyrim.

I don't know what the deal with Fallout 4 was really. It feels like half the dev team wanted to make an open world shooter, and the other half wanted to make an action-adventure game. The amount of stuff recycled from Skyrim is downright offensive (crafting UI, compass, map markers, loading screens, sound effects, follower commands, voice actors etc) and it seems as if it was just a cashgrab in many ways.

If we see TESVI:Hammerfell it'll either be excellent as BethGS could listen to feedback properly and put their skills to good use. Or - and this is more likely - it'll be another watered down piece of shit with nonexistent character building, world building or anything resembling something which took more than three minutes to make.

And it's always possible that BethGS will want to break their over a decade long streak of just TES or Fallout and do something else. We'll have to wait and see. In my opinion, BethGS is dead - they had their peak with the last four TES games in different ways. RIP in pieces.

Well Skyrim is objectively better than Fallout 4 in every way besides graphics, animations and some voice acting. The story, the guilds, the factions, the lore, the gameplay, the RPG elements, et all are better in Skyrim.

I don't know what the deal with Fallout 4 was really. It feels like half the dev team wanted to make an open world shooter, and the other half wanted to make an action-adventure game. The amount of stuff recycled from Skyrim is downright offensive (crafting UI, compass, map markers, loading screens, sound effects, follower commands, voice actors etc) and it seems as if it was just a cashgrab in many ways.

If we see TESVI:Hammerfell it'll either be excellent as BethGS could listen to feedback properly and put their skills to good use. Or - and this is more likely - it'll be another watered down piece of shit with nonexistent character building, world building or anything resembling something which took more than three minutes to make.

And it's always possible that BethGS will want to break their over a decade long streak of just TES or Fallout and do something else. We'll have to wait and see. In my opinion, BethGS is dead - they had their peak with the last four TES games in different ways. RIP in pieces.

>>10262

damn, you must be really cool for using the right memes, everyone on the internet likes you, right?

>>10267

I don't think one game can kill company. Out of my love for the Elder Scrolls, I try to look at Bethesda impartially, despite ESO, which in my opinion is just one giant piss-taking.

However, there's too many bad signs with FO4, and that's something I've never said about one of their games.

The script/writing is too happy/safe: it's E for everyone. FO3 was nothing like that, the writing was far more nuanced, grim, dark and ambiguous. And the dialog options of sarcasm/nice-guy/douchebag feel awkward.

The settlement building feels like it was tacked on. It's buggy, the walls don't fit right with the landscape, it's like a Minecraft hodgepodge. I guess it was a calculated move on the market: Minecraft and similar games have been big since Skyrim, so I assume they wanted to try and incorporate that at the risk of falling behind and getting left out by trends. I don't blame them, but as with the gigantic success of Skyrim, the market wants pure Bethesda games.

FPS: Fallout has to be an FPS to some extent and to an extent all of Bethesda's games have required this aspect of gaming, whether its swords or guns, combat is central to their model. I was glad they refined this part of the experience.

The settlement/building and the subsequent busy missions ate too much into the main Bethesda experience. Frankly, it's probably much easier to do this type of busy-missions indefinitely and then gloss over that fraud with "settlement building" rather than paying someone to sit down and actually write something that's worth a shit. That's how it feels, and who knows why exactly it happened? Maybe its not about the market, maybe they didn't have the required personnel to do the extended work for better lore because they're tied up in something else?

Whatever the case, 2019 for the next ES is fucking ridiculous. Bethesda IS the Elder Scrolls.

We need TES 4 and 5 before we'll ever see 6.

>>10274

You're no better than the guy on /pol/ making the eternal Anglo threads

>>10275

Hey, don't blame me. I've been waiting for 4 with bated breath for like a decade now. Yell at Todd.

>>10273

>lets not kid ourselves

>videogames is not a business

I have to disagree with pretty much everything you said as it sounds like /v/tism. FO 1&2 were not this incredible thing, they were predictable, black and white milk carton shit written by liberal s'wits with stilted dialogue out the ass and zero fucking characterization. FO3 and even 4 are in every way superior.

Videogames is not art, its a business. I'm not the least surprised Bethesda and Valve tried to make money off it. And the "modding" scene is mostly semi-pornographic wish fulfillment written in by uneducated neet losers. None of it really advances the lore or changes anything, so nothing of value would have been lost. And if people are stupid enough to pay money for bait mods designed to be pure shit just for the shekels, then the original guys would be run out and the fraud would collapse anyway.

/v/ is a very stupidass, childish board that looks at the world with the perspective of a mewling 14 year old virgin. That would be ok if they all weren't mid-20 year old neckbeards.

>>10279

All Fallout is shit. Trying to determine which turd is the least rank will achieve nothing.

>>10260

http://masterherald.com/elder-scrolls-6-could-be-a-direct-sequel-to-skyrim-not-coming-anytime-soon/32977/

says its in development? Is this legit or some kind of click bait?

>>10283

That's Skyrim 2. Not ES 6, or ES 4.

>>10319

>tfw we have to wait until OP is in his mid 30s before he goes Super fetcher God

>>10324

Please God no….

Guess we have to please God and eradicate Sweden before then, right?

>consolebabies in charge of not being blubbering manchildren

>oblivion was released 8 years ago

Goddammit!

>>10407

I remember being blown away by trailers and reviews back when g4tv was still a thing, then spending literally over a thousand hours on it across multiple playthroughs. it aged worse than Morrowind though.