/tes/ - The Elder Scrolls Discussion

altmer and dwemer tie for worst race since they actively try to destroy creation. they should have been aborted.

Bretons are the fuccbois of Tamriel.

And Bosmer are the succbois.

>>10652

>yfw will never get to play as long-nail breton

I like to think that the Eternal Champion was Breton.

But yeah, breton's pretty shit-tier in general.

>>10659

Tiber Septim was almost certainly breton.

you're just a hater, anon. bretons are kickass mages, High Rock's got the whole game of thrones feudal vibe going on, and their savage tribal heritage is pretty gnarly.

imperials are worst race for committing the cardinal sin of being boring. "hi everyone we're the vanilla human race! we're not innately gifted at arms or magic but we're pretty crafty merchants (oy vey!), and we're pretty good diplomats too!"

ugh

>>10657

>it just kinda feels like they wrote themselves into a corner with the Breton

You have no idea, anon.

>Although the Bretons are divided into numerous mutually antagonistic factions, to the outsider a singular uniformity in dress, architecture, and customs prevails throughout the land. Bretons are not an imaginative people, a legacy of the Elves, perhaps, and traditional ways are not lightly abandoned. Their villages are pleasant collections of half-timbered structures of one or two stories, with the rustic inn, a shop or two, and perhaps a lordly manor completing the picture. The traveler need not visit more than a handful of Breton communities before satisfying himself that he has captured the flavor of the whole. The people, too, despite their cherished particularism, are remarkably similar in name, accent, and dress throughout the province. It may be that this unacknowledged homogeneity bodes well for the future harmony of High Rock.

http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Pocket_Guide_to_the_Empire,_1st_Edition/High_Rock

I really find Bretons to be the least interesting race. I can't think of Breton/High Rock culture like I can do with any other race/province.

Anyone know any good Breton/High Rock lore?

>>10661

Hjalti Early-Beard was a Breton, Tiber Septim was not.

>>10666

nice satanic trips

>>10668

Yup, for some reason someone at Bethesda decided to right off the Bretons as 'exactly like we presented them in Daggerfall.' It's clearly supposed to be an attempt at metahumor, but its not really an appreciable joke when it's thrown directly into the bible of Elder Scrolls lore.

It could be brushed off as the unreliable narrator (which is something people pass around way too much about PGE1 imo), but even so the author would either have to be a complete retard or contain some irrational animosity towards the Bretons to make such shitty observations.

It also doesn't help that this is literally the most in-depth description of High Rock culture we have yet to be given.

>>10664

>Bretons are not an imaginative people, a legacy of the Elves, perhaps

is it just me, or does the Pocket Guide series have a slant against mer? i've noticed backhanded remarks like this throughout all their books. it's not even accurate, as elves are pretty much renowned for their art and architecture.

>>10671

>does the Pocket Guide series have a slant against mer

Yes, PGE1 definitely has a very anti-mer vibe to it. The book was written during a time when Elves were, at the least, treated with contempt and suspicion, especially given the growing tensions between the Aldmeri Dominion and Tiber's Empire.

You have to understand that before Tiber Septim nobody really envisioned a world where Elves and Men could work together for common goals. Most humans still viewed Elves as those evil conniving bastards who had once enslaved them.

The critical remarks made towards elves in PGE1 aren't completely unheard of. For example, calling the elves 'unimaginative' is just a more condescending way of saying that most elves uphold very strict traditions.

PGE1 is one of those things that really make TES lore feel a bit more in depth and realistic, something the ESO devs should really take notes on imo.

>>10674

>The Breton have no great feats, no amazing buildings, no unique culture

And that's because Bethesda decided to write them like that.

I find it incredibly annoying that they want us to believe that the historically most fractious group of people are also the most culturally homogenous. It makes no sense at all. They mine as well just flat out state that Bretons are the worst race.

They're still pretty high on the tier list. Non-dark elves are shit

Cats are shit

Orcs are shit, literally

So, they're at least fourth from the bottom

>>10687

cats are awesome, get fucked ashfetcher.

>>10689

fuck off /intl/

Bosmer, of course. Seriously, they where just there. Bretons at least managed to marry into the Septim dynasty.

>>10662

That was an Oblivion thing. Imperials were meant to be glorious fantasy romans with tinges of southeast asian influence. The description of the imperial city in the pocket guide was really cool. But Bethesda did indeed decide that Imperials had to be the 'average' race so that they could appeal to nobody at all.

>>10723

To be fair we really haven't seen much of the Bosmer in the first place. Bethesda seems uniquely uninterested in writing about them or showing off their culture in games. Nearly every Bosmer character is thoroughly assimilated to whatever province they're in.

>>10725

>tfw no jungles in cyrodiil

>tfw no significant distinction between colovians and nibenese

>>10727

I figured that Cyrodiil's original climate and terrain would have extrapolated well into a lore-friendly game based on the Climate of japan.

Imagine if the Imperial arboretum had a few plum trees, and a gust of wind showers a fantasy-roman Guard with tiny pink leaves while mysterious flute-and-lute music set the tone.

>>10759

Stop anon, my muatra can only get so hard