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Seen any elves? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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 No.1745

Tell me about the Oversoul theory. I want to learn about the Underking.

 No.1746

Tal0s is a pretty big guy.

 No.1747

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>>1746

Tell me about Dagoth Ur! Why does he wear the mask?

 No.1750

>>1747
It's literally his face since his little Dead god dreamself incident.

Like, no joke, it's made out of his flesh, are you my mommy doctor who nanomachines style

 No.1751

>>1747
Was getting killed a part of your plan?

 No.1752

>>1746

4ulfric

 No.1754

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He didn't die so good.

 No.1759

>>1745
Oversoul is combination of multiple souls or aspects in one bigger soul
Talos oversoul was created via enantiomorph of Hjalti, Wulf and Zurin, Mantella and later Numidium machinations
Underking was Wulfharth, then after Zurin got busted with Wulfs heart he became Underking, then after Dragonbreak everyone messed up and fucked up so who knows who is Underking

 No.1762

>>1747
A LOTTA LOYALTY FOR AN ASH GHOUL

 No.1763

>>1762
Maybe he's wondering why you would give the Nerevarine corprus.

 No.1779

>>1759
Now it all makes sense.

 No.1782

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>>1763
I've often wondered how much of the Nerevarine prophesies Dagoth knew about. Did Dagoth give him corprus with some actual goal in mind, or did he do it simply because he knew overcoming it was one of the qualifiers and he was testing the incarnate as much as anyone else was.

 No.1786

>>1782
Dagoth probably knew all about the prophecies, I think. His final goal was, of course, to get the Nerevarine to join his ranks. So he might have thought "Let's infect this dude, if he's cured, we got ourselves a million drakes discovery, and if he goes insane, we got another corprus dude.
Dagoth Gares' dialogue, though, hints at Dagoth Ur already knowing of the prisoner's nature, as he is referred to as "Lord Nerevar". By fulfilling another of the prophecies, I think he hopes to mature the prisoner as quickly as possible to then make peace with him.

 No.3240

>>1763
Before casting him out of the Mundial plane

 No.4256

>>1750
>his little dead god dreamself incident

Wait what?

 No.4257

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You're a loud guy.

 No.4258

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>>4257
FUS RO!

 No.4266

>>4256
Basically, the Dagoth UR you fight is a dream of the actual Dagoth Ur who dreams he's alive, and as it's a physical dream of himself when he was alive before he died, he was wearing that nifty mask, so he's dreaming of himself with the mask on, but his face is the mask, because if you know fuck all about looking at your face and a mirror in your sleep when lucid dreaming if you look into the mirror you will see some fucking displaced ass shit that would give you nightmares for weeks.

 No.4284

>>4266
I don't know I looked in a mirror one time while lucid and the only difference was that I had a beard.

 No.4494

>>4266
>if you know fuck all about looking at your face and a mirror in your sleep when lucid dreaming if you look into the mirror you will see some fucking displaced ass shit that would give you nightmares for weeks
The ironic thing in this statement is that nothing in a dream is set in stone, and all in a dream is determined by expectation; if a person sees "some fucking displaced ass shit that [will give them] nightmares for weeks", it truly is because they know "fuck all".

 No.5217

>>4494
Is lucid dreaming actually a real thing?

I thought it was fantasy.

 No.5218

>>5217
You serious? A shit ton of people do it.

 No.6936

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Did the Zurin Arctus really defeat the numidium after he became the underking? How the fuck did he accomplish that?


 No.6942

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>>6936

A) he was, at least partly, a shezzarine

B) part of his life force was powering Numidium at the time, which might have given his some special advantage or knowledge about the thing.


 No.6951

>>4494

That's only true in Dawntime though. The Wheel of Convention stops that from happening by having the Earthbones enforce physics on the Aurbis, and its pretty hard to counter their dream of a stable coherent reality.


 No.6958

>>6942

Even if he was a shezzarine (i support the theory Zurin's body was possessed by Wulfharth after soul trapping him in the mantella) I still don't get what kind of magic or weaponry that could have brought down a metal colossus. I mean this thing is powerful enough to convince all of tamriel to surrender just by looking at it, even if he found some kind of weak spot, most shezzarines are just abnormally strong and have heightened prowess in battle. He would have had to have cast a super accurate spell right into a weak point, but i doubt that dwemer engineering would have left any zelda style weak points.


 No.6962

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>>6958

>Even if he was a shezzarine

Zurin Arctus was certainly a Shezarrine, every part of the Talos oversoul was an avatar of Lorkhan. And it was Arctus who killed Numidium, Wulfharth practically admits it in the Arcturian Heresy.

>I still don't get what kind of magic or weaponry that could have brought down a metal colossus. I mean this thing is powerful enough to convince all of tamriel to surrender just by looking at it

I'd imagine the event was a bit more mythical than powerful mage shoots giant robot


 No.6963

>>6962

Ach you're right. Arcturian heresy was a bit confusing to me sorry.

I guess maybe he just used a storm to just sorta tip it over?


 No.6964

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>>6962

He offered the Golem tea and then calmly explained that if he were to be zero summed, the Mantella would go poof with him. Numidium was BTFO so hard by this, that it literally exploded due to the unbridled impotent rage of a million dwemer souls getting cock blocked again.


 No.6967

>>6964

i kek'd

but by knowing what zero sum was wouldn't he already have just stopped existing?


 No.6972

>>6967

It's probably considered some rumor/legend passed around by the high end magic types about how there's some terrible cosmic secret that learning would not just utterly destroy a person but actually unmake them.

Also there's probably some actual 'you need to be able to actually deeply comprehend the truth' component to it, You couldn't just scream "Hey everyone! Your reality is actually a dream of some sleeping dude in another dimension!" and cause everyone in earshot to go poof.


 No.6973

>>6972

so the only reason the tribunal were able to achieve CHiM is because they did this deep thinking while they had the heart of lorkhan in their possession?


 No.6974

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>>6973

No, only Vivec achieved chim, I think at some point between raping the daedric lord of rape and replacing his personal history with a AU fanfic about how he was hatched from an egg laid by a cyborg half crab/half chimer woman. I think the Tribunal had already lost access to the Heart and were all slowly losing power by that point. I'm not sure, I don't bother ever looking at the timelines for this stuff..

Vivec probably only avoided zerosumming because of his out of control, pathological sense of self importance and ego.


 No.6975

>>6972

That sort of thing was a plot point in one of the books, The Four Suitors of Benitah


 No.6978

>>6974

yeah, i can't remember which book i read but it said how it involves realizing yourself in the entirety of the aurbis and the godhead and finding a place for yourself. Sorry my lore is a little rusty


 No.6982

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>mfw all of this is fucking chinese to me and I thought I was a fan


 No.6983

>>6982

yeah most people who claim to be fans of TES are just like "fus ro dah arrow in knee xDDD"

Get into the lore, it's a lot to take in but it's fucking worth it.


 No.6984

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>>6982

>namefag

>posting red anon

C'mon man


 No.6985

>>6984

>He's using a name on a site that lets you choose a name!

>haha! what a faggit!


 No.6986

>>6985

Yeah. What a faggot. Good job, faggot.


 No.6987

>>6984

christ this picture is making me laugh really fucking hard


 No.6989

>>6985

>using an image used to represent anonymous posters

>not an anonymous poster

n'wah, that's not right


 No.6991

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>>6989

Here's a picture that represents a sheep, I suppose you'd like me to "baa" when posting? Maybe change my name to sheepnonymous?


 No.6992

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>>6991

If you really feel like you need to distinguish yourself on a site created for anonymous posting, whatever man, knock yourself out. Obviously you're better than the rest of us and we need to know that the things you say were said by you.

Just don't fucking pretend like you're an anon, alright?


 No.7000

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I'm reading the 36 lessons and this shit is so weird

>woman with egg inside of her flung into the ocean and is turned into a fish lady

>Spirit melts the mom's eyes and cuts her open to teach vivec egg the the history of everything

>Mother blindly walks into cave and gets captured by dwarves and killed

>Vivec makes dwarves uncomfortable when he talks about love so they kick him out

>Vivec proves there's no such thing as coincidences


 No.7002

>>7000

>Reading them for the first time

I am jealous.


 No.7006

>>6985

>uses a feature that's generally associated with being a n'wah

>i'm totally not a n'wah guys :^)


 No.7013

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>>7000

Now read the bible


 No.7014

>>7013

He just did.


 No.7028

you like to dance close to the fire


 No.7030

let's not make this official outlander…


 No.7037

Submit to the Three, the spirits and thy lords.


 No.7338

>>7013

It's a lot more like the Kalevala, Ukko's daughters' breast milk creates the earth, one of his daughters gets pregnant with a sea-bird, and a demi-god is born from the huge egg that results, only to be sent away a thousand years later by a virgin who got pregnant from eating berries.


 No.8597

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