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Seen any elves? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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 No.222

ARGONIANS SUPERIOR
DRIVE OUT DAEDRA
BEAT FILTHY DUNMER

 No.224

Someone post that /v/ text about argonians from a week ago

 No.226

>>222
ARGONIANS ARE SCALY N'wahS
REMOVE ARGONIANS

 No.232

>>222
Keep sucking that HIST cum you fetcher lizard tree thing

 No.237

>>232
hist cum master race > vivec muatra homosexual

 No.341

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>>222
You best be offering virgins to the Nerevarine since his fucking with Vvardenfell let you get the best us n'wah.

 No.472

>N'WAAAAH N'WAAAH THE NEREVARINE IS AT FAULT N'WAAAAH

Psss, these fucking ash-skins, when will they learn?

YOU cavort with daedran and then you cavort with false gods with false divinity and then you complain when an asteroid falls on your city and makes red mountain erupt.

 No.508

>>472
And then Morrowind becomes stronger then ever and Redoran goes stronk
Vivec is a good guy

 No.581

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>>508
>Stronger than ever
>Can't even reclaim old Dres territory
>Can barely defend Raven Rock from Ash-Spawn
HAHA good joke ash-skin :^)

 No.594

>Using frenzy spells on every Argonian citizen I find

Simply the best feeling.

 No.759

>>594
FUCK YOU

 No.779

I always thought myself that Argonians were the "best" race.

Never fit in as the main character in any storyline but I always had the spin-off Argonian character that fucked shit up.

 No.788

i always play argonian.

underdogs ftw

 No.794

>>779
I like that they're guerilla freedom fighters but I wish we knew a little more about them. I get that the enigma is part of the appeal but currently there just isn't enough for them to even seem enticing, at least to me.

Some concept art and a few good side quests having to do with Argonian culture are all I'm asking for really.

 No.840

>>779
I'm a writefetcher who writes fan-fiction, my Nerevarine had a close friend who he freed from slavery in the cave near seyda neen. Arogonian barbarian named Strides-Over-Ashen-Sands who, as his name suggests, was sent to morrowond by The Hist to aid the Nerevarine. Used a 6th House Bell Hammer as a weapon. My side Skyrim character who is a friend of my Dragonborn - Himself a descendant of my CoC who was killed in the red year (Was in New Ebonheart when the moon hit Vivec). Swims uses Strides' Bell Hammer, hah.

*sigh* once I learn to mod, I'll add Strides to Morrowind, and Swims to Sky rim as a hopefully custom voiced follower.

Hell, i hope VI takes place in Black Marsh so that Swims can be the main character for once.

 No.841

>>794
we know a lot about them
what exactly do you want to know?

 No.842

>>840
>*sigh*
dude this isn't tumblr

 No.843

>>841
What purpose do the hist/histkin (argonians? I've seen them reffered to as such) have in this kalpa - I know the Khajiit are somehow important, as are humans and mer - But what are they really?

 No.844

>>842
I know. :-| I meant to agree and ended up rambling. Kinda embaressrd, actually.

Trip is because of a thread in /agdg/, BTW. Forgot to remove.

 No.1200

>>843
Not Lorkhatosh, but might be able to help you out.

To my knowledge, we don't know the answer to your question with certainty. Sources that refer to the exact goals of the Hist are vague, and if anything more specific exists it's in ESO which I haven't played (since closed beta and cannot comment on because I never found anything.)

There are a couple of really cool theories, which I'll get into in just a second, but first let's talk about something we definitely know about: Argonians.

There appear to be two ways to use this word. One refers to the various types of amphibious Saxhleel most often referred to as Argonians. The other is a more abstract term that seems to mean "Anything that helps further the goals of the Hist. Whatever the fuck that might be."

In both cases, Argonians are tools of the Hist. They're a means to an end.

As to what that end is, we do have a few hints. We've learned that the Hist act as a repository of Memory. We know that they use Saxhleel as their physical agents in the world to go out and learn and remember things that the Hist themselves can't (among other things, of course. Many tools for many jobs).

We also know that they are associated with a mythic action of change called the Striking or Exact Egg-Cracking. Padhome more or less invented this action when he struck Nir into the twelve worlds. Finally, the Hist have some association with those original twelve worlds (though most people reject a literal interpretation of the Annuad's story here).

Considering the Hist's strong association with Sithis, it should come as no surprise that the thing Padhome is best known for found it's way down somehow.

These things in mind, here are two fun theories on what exactly the Hist are and what they want. I'm not saying either is objective truth, and I'm still not sure how I feel about them, but I have to admit they're damn cool.

#1: The Hist are trying to create a single, cohesive HIST-STORY through all Dreams.

In this theory, the Hist exist to remove ambiguity in the narrative of the Godhead and its many subgradients. Here the abstract "Argonian" is anyone who accepts the Hist's version of events. It has the added bonus of playing on the Mythopoeic power of Memory in order to give the Hist more influence the more creatia aligns with their narrative. In this way, the Hist can retroactively insert themselves into past dreams in order to continue spinning their single cohesive narrative.

In this theory, the 'true' origins of the Hist are either unknowable or irrelevant. It is reasonable to suspect that, in order to explain their future-past presence throughout the entirety of existence, HISTory will remember them as the first. The Root of the Godhead.

MK called Exact Egg-Cracking
"The Hist version of the New Man. Rather, the way they would do it."

This is extremely telling. Especially the second part. The way they WOULD do it. It sounds to me like the Hist are following their own Walking Way, but the fact that it happens to be a Walking Way is incidental to their true goal.

If the HISTory theory is true, then the fact that the Hist may rewrite themselves as the authors of all isn't even their real goal. Just a side-effect of the fact that they want one truth. One story.

It also adds to the Jills vs Hist 9th era stuff. The Jills also want one cohesive history, but that history is mutually exclusive to HISTory. Eventually this conflict comes to a head as noted in KINMUNE.

#2: The Hist are Ald-Anu's Nightmare of Padhome.

Imagine your brother just murdered the love of your life and her kids, and you cry yourself to sleep. You dream about the kids growing up. They're okay. They're safe. Sure, sometimes things don't go their way. Sure they get a little scraped up now and then. They'll only be stronger for it. They're all growing up so strong. Nobody can hurt them anymore.

But there's always something lurking in the corners of your vision. Sometimes someone comes along that you don't recognize. Is that one of your children? You…you can't remember. They're asking questions. Learning about the other children. Living among them like they belong even though for some reason you think they don't. You're not sure what to do. They're very strong. And they're making your children strong too. You're afraid for your children, but they look so much like one of yours.

And then they raise their fists to Strike…and there's nothing you can do. You can't save them. You couldn't save them.

You couldn't save her.

 No.1210

>>1200
It should also be noted that not all Argonians are Saxhleel and not all Saxhleel are Argonians.

#NotAllSaxhleel

 No.1211

>>1210
Explain the second part.

 No.1212

>>1211
If the word "Argonian" means "Someone who furthers the goals of the Hist" what would that make a Saxhleel who doesn't?

One example might be the Blackwood Company from Oblivion. Smuggling a rogue Hist Tree out of Black Marsh and using its sap for financial gain.

We know rogue Hist tend to get murdered by the others, after all. One more for the list.

 No.1255

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>mfw inferior beast race sheds his disgusting skin near me

 No.1256

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>>1212
>Smuggling a rogue Hist Tree out of Black Marsh and using its sap for financial gain.

You're assuming that it wasn't the Blackwood Company who were the ones being manipulated and used. That questline seems a whole lot more interesting if you consider it might have all been the Hist trying to establish a foothold in Cyrodiil and create a personal army of hist controlled minions just before the shit hits the fan there.

 No.1271

The fact that the Hist might have orchestrated the one tree being smuggled into cyrodill is funny to me. Like, they're just hauling this big ass tree while it slowly thinks "Yes…Yes….Good…"

 No.1272

Posting this because it involves the Hist and is semi-relevant, and was already mentioned/alluded to in the thread. FUTURE TREE SPACEWAR

"But then the Hist-Jilian wars spilled out of a Wheelian rip into the SubSys slice of 'brane-space, and things changed for Kinmune. With the outer colonies separated from Nu-Mundelbright chronoculic sync-net anchors, maintenance of space-time beyond the F-Shores faltered. As the barely-there Hist blink-root-ship armada fired an artillery barrage of 16th-dimensional mathematics at their Jilian enemies, impossipoint detonations stippled across the Ix-Egg and its clutch-satellites like some garish TalOSian hologram, only without the irony. Kinmune's synthetic body, caught in one of the blasts, suddenly found itself in the Ysgramorim, her mind an aggregate of the residual personalities of her last several users."

Who are the Jills/Jillians, anyway?

 No.1280

>>1272
>Who are the Jills
An aspect of Akatosh. Sexy female dragons that mend time after Dragonbreaks.

 No.1282

>>1280
>Sexy dual headed human/Dragon monstergirls crotch rubbing on the edges of broken time and space till they orgasm, the after juices solidification and repairing damage.

 No.1382

>>1282
Take out the human bit and this is actually like half of my fetishes all at once.

Fuck.

FUCK this is it. Nearly thirteen years of lore fetchering and I'm done in by this shit god damn you magnificent bastard. I'm finished this is it I can't I can not even. FUCK.

You're the greatest worst thing damn it.

 No.1387

>>1382
>Take out the human bit and this is actually like half of my fetishes all at once

I'm getting flashbacks of my days on /tg/

 No.1403

>>1387
/tg/ - Broadening your horizons. Either if you want them broadened or not

 No.1409

>>1382
By human/dragon I meant they have two heads, one dragonlike monstergirl human and he other a dragon head, like the Akatosh Statue.

posting possibly from a different IP right now though

 No.1438

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Filthy argonians.

Fuck the lore masters for ruining morrowind. The feels

 No.2005

>>1438
Dunmer strong, a little eruption is nothing, and the Argonian invasion has been seriously exaggerated. They beat some House Dres slavers, that's all.

 No.2011

Gas scalies.

 No.2015

>>2005

They overran the southern part of Morrowind. So they also trashed Hlaalu and Indoril, but the latter of those two was on the way out anyway.

In Skyrim it seems as though Vivec was destroyed by Lie Rock and Mournhold was sacked by Argonians but the remnants of Indoril re-settled those areas.

 No.2034

>>2015
House inodoril a shit anyways

 No.2346

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>>759
He's right, bro. Feels good man.

 No.2347

>>1438
It can be mass purging time? I kill those filthy bastards every chance I get…

 No.2348

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>>1438
Don't forget to take this with you, btw.

 No.2384

>>2015
House Hlaalu were already trashed by the Oblivion crisis, and they had no notable military power. They were politicians and merchants, not soldiers. House Indoril too were fucked after the events of TES3. The areas they held were empty husks with few defenders, ready to fall the moment someone saw fit to invade them. House Dres were the only ones to be significantly weakened by the Argonian invasion, and they weren't real soldiers, they were raiders and guards, used to dealing with the weakest and most unorganized rabble that the Argonians fed them with. Dres lost much of what they had during the Argonian invasion, but Hlaalu and Indoril didn't lose much, because they didn't have much power left to lose.

 No.2391

>>844
I like that you are putting so much imagination into what you do

 No.2427

>>222
Argonians don't have penises

 No.2649

The only thing i hate more than those scale-backs are them filthy dark elves

 No.3243

>>1255
>Being butthurt about the flu, blame something unrelated because "Baww, two races were wiped out and now all my family is dead."
Go back to snorting coke you furry bastards.

 No.3246

>>226 Shut up enslaver.

>Rolff Stone-Fist: Fucking black elves

>Dunmers: WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE ARE THE VICTIMS
>99% of the morrowind dunmers: Fresh argonians!!! Buy your slaves to do your work!!! Special offer!!! Buy 3 khajiit slaves and get a free argonian!!!

And that's why i prefer altmers (Except of course, the thalmor.

 No.3250

>>3246
I like the Dunmer, but dislike the Windhelm Dunmer. Real Dunmer wouldn't put up with the N'wah's shit.

 No.3255

>>3250
>no true Nord

 No.3264

>>3255
Nords were awesome back in the ancient times, when they believed in Orkey and Tsun instead of Arkay and Zenithar, when they had cool dudes like Ysgramor and Wulfharth Ash-King, and when they respected the Clever Craft instead of hating magic. In Skyrim they were just a bunch of dickheads.

 No.7724

>>3250

>n'wah

this ain't Morrowind, soot-skin. you're the filthy foreigner now. funny how that turned out, huh?


 No.7758

>>3255

Hahah, oh wow, nicely spotted there man.


 No.7792

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>>7724

>Frozen shithole

>No ghostgates

>No living gods

>No heart of creation

>No frozen-in-time meteors

>Full of singing nord-faries

>Inferor Dwemer contraptions

You can keep it.


 No.8139

>>1210

Did you seriously use a hashtag on here?


 No.8140

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>>7792

It weren't supposed to be like that, m8. It was supposed to be a land of rugged Majesty, full of wonder, magics and mystery. Mountains so high that no you can't fucking go there, and flying whales what shoot laugh-sperm out of their blow-holeys. Tall, muscled warriors who kill the piss out of any redguard who dares look at them wrong or insult the wrong clan, and take their dang essence in a necklace made of Tongues; to power their Thu'um, you gather?

The sea, She was supposed to be a virgin beauty just waiting for a True Nord to take Her on with his Barge, which may or may not be big but by Malacath its the technique what makes the works. She belongs to the strong, and the eager. The Nords

The Gods were supposed to be wild, untamed and war-like, itching for a fight against the foreigners and watching approvingly as Kyne's children built more cities and took more elves and she-elves captive in Her honor. Bed-wives for the strong too, and a Shield-thane for every worthy lad or lass.

I still cry myself to sleep on the dreams of these Nords who lived as Shor intended, in communion with His Widow and having never even heard of Septims or Talos even. Pure beauty made flesh then beaten until it becomes a callous and dominates the world, that's what Skyrim ought to have been, that's what Her people *really* are.

It was the fucking Jews what took them from me. They are literal spawn of Molag Bal.


 No.8141

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>>8140

The Empire killed Skyrim, without a doubt. Just look at Solitude, the once famed city of King Wulfharth who put all the Alessians to the stake, now an imperial port devoid of any shred of nordic culture.

The game has a notable lacking of tribal nords who carry a wind with them everywhere they go.

>having never even heard of Septims or Talos even

Maybe a miniscule amount, Talos is Ysmir after all. Nords see him very differently than the Imperials, they worship the grey grim conqueror rather than the brilliant charismatic leader. He is the Nordic ideal.


 No.8145

>>8141

Hjalti Early-Beard was a Breton who fought as a general for Emperor Cuhlecain. He took the name Tiper Septim so the Imperial Soldiers in his employ could relate to him easier. He was a spellsword and a dragonborn.

The ghost king Wulfharth taught him how to shout and helped him take the reach, for this the Nords named him Talos, which apparently Stormcrown. The Nords followed him because he had what they percieved as a holy power, the Imperials followed him because he was a good strategist and military leader.

Tribal Nords have no reason to revere Talos.


 No.8146

>>472

You're the n'wah here! But hey, no skin off my back.


 No.8147

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>>8145

Anon, let me give a little autistic explanation of Talos.

>It is the rumbling of the Greybeards that wake him. Though the Empire has crumbled, there are rumors that a chosen one will come to restore it. This new Emperor will defeat the Elves and rule a united Tamriel. Naturally, Wulfharth thinks he is the figure of prophecy. He goes directly to High Hrothgar to hear the Greybeards speak. When they do, Ysmir is blasted to ash again. He is not the chosen one. It is a warrior youth from High Rock. [1]

The Greybeards deny Wulfharth as the chosen one, instead Hjalti is.

>As the Grey Wind goes to find this boy, he hears the Greybeards' warning: remember the color of betrayal, King Wulfharth. [1]

Wulfharth goes to find Hjalti.

>That night a storm came and visited Hjalti's camp. It spoke with him in his tent. [1]

Wulfharth has found Hjalti.

>At dawn, Hjalti went up to the gates, and the storm followed just above his head. Arrows could not penetrate the winds around him. He shouted down the walls of Old Hrol'dan, and his men poured in. After their victory, the Nords called Hjalti Talos, or Stormcrown. [1]

It appears as though Hjalti has blown down the walls of Old Hrol'dan, and Wulfharth observes as the storm overhead protecting him. But wait…

>No one can stand before Hjalti's storms [1]

You mean the storms that were Wulfharth?

>Hjalti uses them both. He needs Cuhlecain in the Colovian Estates, where foreigners are mistrusted. It is obvious why he needs Ysmir. [1]

Why? Was Hjalti not capable of blowing shit up himself?

>This period of levelheaded statesmanship and diplomacy, this sudden silence, heretofore unknown in the roaring tales of Talosian conquest, are explained away later. (The assassination story is embroidered – now it is popularly Talos' own throat that was cut.) [1]

Wait a second.

>he Witchman assassinated the Emperor, caught the Palace on fire, and slit the throat of General Talos. "But from the smoldering ruin he came, one hand to his neck and with Cuhlecain's Crown in the other. The legions wept at the sight. His Northern magic had saved him, but the voice that led them would be more silent from that night on. His word could no longer rout an army with a roar, but he could still command one with a whisper. [2]

But this was a lie, right? So what's with the story trying to explain why Hjalti can no longer shout?

Could Hjalti never shout at all? And if so, who blew down the walls of Old Hrol'dan? It couldn't be Wulfharth because he was the storm.

>He was born in Atmora as Talos, 'Stormcrown' in the language of the ancient Ehlnofey, and it was from that shore he sailed. [2]

Surely this must be "Nordic Fatherland" propaganda

>but pic related

So Talos was from Atmora? How can this be if he is also from Alcaire?

>Lorkhan and his avatars:

>1. Wulfharth L

>2. Hjalti O

>3. Ysmir R

>4. Talos K

>5. Arctus H

>6. Septim A [3]

Is this implying that Hjalti, Tiber Septim, and Talos were three separate individuals? How can this be?


 No.8148

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>>8141

>>8147

continued…

Tiber Septim

>The second to see the Brass God was the Enantiomorph. You may know them individually as Zurin Arctus and Talos. The Oversoul was known to the world as Tiber Septim They gave birth to their Mantella, this time an embodiment of the healing of the Man/Mer schism [4]

>And Talos said to the Arctus, "Let us join as one to fortify this throne, this land, these people, each one glorious under heaven!" [5]

Tiber Septim was an oversoul between the individuals Zurin Arctus and Talos.

What about Talos?

>Stormcrown was a Breton, no a Nord, no an Atmoran, and you sit and play in the sand. [6]

>After their victory, the Nords called Hjalti Talos, or Stormcrown. [1]

>Ysmir (Dragon of the North): The Nordic aspect of Talos. He withstood the power of the Greybeards' voices long enough to hear their prophecy. [7]

>But, by then, and for a long time coming, One betrayed the Other, and the world shuddered as they split, and the Anumidum went berserk and created an Empire of Evil to house the malignant half of its soul [4]

> Let me show you the power of Talos Stormcrown, born of the North, where my breath is long winter. I breathe now, in royalty, and reshape this land which is mine. I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you. [8]

He's the guy who shouted down the walls.

He's also the guy who waltzed up through the Greybeards quakes and became Ysmir

He is the grey grim giant that the Nords worship.

>pic related

He is the malignant half of Tiber Septim's soul

And he's also the guy who removed Cyrodiil's jungles.

[1] http://www.imperial-library.info/content/arcturian-heresy-0

[2] http://www.imperial-library.info/content/pocket-guide-empire-first-edition-cyrodiil

[3] http://www.imperial-library.info/content/forum-archives-michael-kirkbride

[4] http://www.imperial-library.info/content/interviews-skeleton-man

[5] http://uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:The_Prophet

[6] http://www.imperial-library.info/content/forum-archives-others

[7] http://www.imperial-library.info/content/varieties-faith-empire

[8] http://www.imperial-library.info/content/many-headed-talos


 No.8149

>>8147

>>8148

I have no idea how to respond to any of this, I mean, I've read it all. I just don't know how to respond to you saying it.


 No.8247

>>581

Dres were farmers who literally owned Argonians.

>how plebian can you get




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