Anonymous 02/23/15 (Mon) 17:04:57 No. 5582
OK, Skyrim gets a lot of hate here but I think its overstated.
Anonymous 02/23/15 (Mon) 18:04:43 No. 5583
>>5582 Fuck the Thalmor. Stormcloak master race.
Anonymous 02/23/15 (Mon) 19:01:33 No. 5584
>>5582 >Dagoth Ur >loosely related to the lore of the Dunmer Remove Todd REMOVE TODD
Anonymous 02/23/15 (Mon) 20:01:15 No. 5592
>>5582 >Skyrim's story is way better than the previous two ES games. >implying the 'racism' in Skyrim is important and not gimmicky. I mean c'mon. Morrowind let you own slaves or set them free.
You say that the civil war in Skyrim is important but it is not dynamic at all. You can be a top officer in the imperial army and just waltz into windhelm.
Anonymous 02/23/15 (Mon) 20:07:42 No. 5594
>>5582 > greater parameters afforded by the new generation of console hardware. How fucking long do true TES diciples have to settle for unfinished, compressed, low res, underwhelming shit to accomodate these bullshit "next gen" machines?
Daggerfall was the last TES game unblemished from this console cancer and look what they achieved, a game arguably more expansive than anything these mordern sequels have brought to the table
>It has a much more robust character generation, in particular the special advantages and disadvantages you can give yourself. Stuff like starting expertise in certain weapons, limited magical abilities in sunlight/darkness, intolerance of holy places, weakness/resistance/immunity to various elements, inability to handle certain materials, phobia of different monster types…there's a lot. Your character can be truly unique. > The the way quests are handled is everything is randomly generated from templates, thus there are infinite quests. There is always something new to do, and it's always very easy to get a new quest. Random generation is a double edged sword, as you'll hear people complain that Daggerfall is huge yet pointless due to randomized, well, everything. But it allows a certain playstyle to evolve that rarely exists, and that's that Daggerfall allows you to fail and keep going. There will always be second chances. This is most probably due to the system limitations of that time, but it's still handled in a way better than how console limitations are handled now, by casualization and trimming of features.
Anonymous 02/24/15 (Tue) 08:56:14 No. 5601
It's funny because Resdayn is the only place I've seen where the majority doesn't pass off Ulfric and the Stormcloaks as "the bad guys" because of "muh equality" and all that "progressive" bull-shit.
Anonymous 02/24/15 (Tue) 15:54:37 No. 5607
>>5601 Ulfric is a retard and nationalism is a fucking sham.
Get out of here, Stormfag.
Anonymous 02/24/15 (Tue) 18:10:16 No. 5608
Anonymous 02/24/15 (Tue) 19:58:56 No. 5610
>>5582 I actually like the story and legitimate handling of the Stormcloaks, but the actual mechanics just did not do the concept justice. I don't get why we have to hate any of the games to praise another, so you know what OP? Yeah I agree
Anonymous 02/24/15 (Tue) 20:55:33 No. 5612
Anonymous 02/24/15 (Tue) 21:22:22 No. 5613
>>5607 Go cry on your aldmr thalmor vermin
Anonymous 02/25/15 (Wed) 02:02:22 No. 5620
>>5608 >>5612 >>5613 >M-muh Talos! >better fight the Empire instead of people pulling all the strings! >NORDS STRONK
Anonymous 02/25/15 (Wed) 02:45:08 No. 5622
>>5620 >Implying Talos hadn't given up on the Empire 200 years ago. Because he literally straight up tells you this in TES: III.
>Implying the Empire would just let the Nords declare war on the AD. >Implying the Stormcloaks aren't preparing for a war with the AD. >Implying the Empire isn't making the same fucking mistake that you say the Stormcloaks are. >Implying Nord culture isn't flat out dead in Skyrim.
Anonymous 02/25/15 (Wed) 06:24:54 No. 5627
Okay I have a question, if the Septim line died in the events of TESIV ending the Third Era, and skyrim takes place in the Fourth Era 200 years later, why the fuck is this guy seen ruling over fucking soltitude? Literally, a bloodline emperor in smack dab middle of the bloodline, even his wiki says he dies in year 153 of the fucking THIRD ERA, whaddafak is he doing in the Fourth Era and why does nobody give aa damn about a mad time travelling ruler of tamriel?
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Septim_Dynasty http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Pelagius_Septim_III
Anonymous 02/25/15 (Wed) 07:59:38 No. 5629
Anonymous 02/25/15 (Wed) 16:21:29 No. 5636
>>5610 >>5594 >>5592 I think the mechanical stuff "Empire officer waltzing into Windhelm" has to due with the technological restrictions of the hardware. Because console hardware of recent is so shitty, at least compared to PC, the way you're perceived in-game tends to be primitively black-and-white, like with FO-New Vegas where you can get a face-lift, haircut and sex change and still be immediately perceived as degenerate scum that accidentally killed 1 legionnaire in the middle of nowhere two years ago or whatever.
I agree that the potential of the ES has been fucked by consoles, but that doesn't change the fact that consoles are still fucking, and that we wait for them to technologically catch up. In saying that, I'm really excited for the next ES now that we have another 10 year delayed hardware update.
Anyway, glad to see most liked my perspective on the civil war and that there's only 1 Tumbler fetcher among us :)
Anonymous 02/25/15 (Wed) 18:59:42 No. 5637
>>5622 >Implying Nord culture isn't flat out dead in Skyrim. n'wah what the blue FUCK are you talking about?
Anonymous 02/25/15 (Wed) 20:50:39 No. 5639
>>5637 I'm talking about what caused the Stormcloak rebellion in the first place.
Nordic culture is dying out in Skyrim.
Anonymous 02/25/15 (Wed) 22:40:12 No. 5642
>>5639 Last I checked, people still drank watered down mead and shit in their farms while complaining about elves.
Sounds like not much has changed for the Nords.
Anonymous 02/25/15 (Wed) 23:28:06 No. 5645
Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 01:55:16 No. 5651
>>5642 >not much has changed for the Nords Yah, okay.
>Complete abandonment of the Nordic Pantheon worship in favor of the Cyrodiilic Pantheon, save for cultural references, Sovngarde, and the Greybeards. >Some have even abandoned Talos/Ysmir. >High King was a cucked puppet of the Empire. >Solitude shows literally no trace of Nordic Culture, save for a forgotten catacomb. >Winterhold has died and no one wants to rebuild it. >No trace of the Old Ways still existing save for Stormcloak related things. >Against the practice of magic despite Tsun saying magic should be loved by the Nords. >Half the Companions are Werewolves and don't care if they don't go to Sovngarde. >Only four Greybeards. >Only one skald in the game. >Wherearethemeadhalls.png >Skyrim is fucking full of outsiders. >Thalmor are allowed to freely abduct and murder citizens. But, I mean, at least the Nords still have their mead.
Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 04:11:22 No. 5654
>>5651 Its not all gone, ya dumbshit, but it is go-ing, that's why the Stormcloaks are good.
Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 06:23:08 No. 5655
>>5654 Stormcloaks only care about muh Talos. The only person who gives a shit about Kyne, the real head of the pantheon and the only god who does shit for men is a crazy hermit up in the hills. Well him and the Reachmen for some reason.
Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 10:37:52 No. 5657
>>5655 >and the Reachmen for some reason Reachmen are a mix of every race in their region.
Their Old Ways include parts of nord culture.
Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 11:43:57 No. 5659
I never finished the Civil War stuff for either side on any of my characters. I just never gave a shit and it never felt urgent. And I usually like to roleplay as best as I can, and since I'm Khajiit or Argonian masterrace typically I just don't think he would give a shit about the Stormcloaks or Aldmeri Dominion and instead exploit it. I've been thinking of playing a mage character next, so I might fuck about with it then. I've never fucked with the College of Winterhold either.I never played Arena
Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 11:49:14 No. 5660
>>5659 Oh, and I forgot Skyrim doesn't have acrobatics. That just ruined it for me.
Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 20:41:41 No. 5666
>>5654 Did I say it was all gone?
I said it was dying.
Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 21:26:19 No. 5667
>>5582 Play Morrowind and then come back.
Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 23:19:14 No. 5669
>>5627 Time is fluid. That, or he believes he's still ruling and he's just being toyed with by Sheogorath because Pelagius fucking deserves it.
Anonymous 02/27/15 (Fri) 05:01:42 No. 5675
>>5582 Today, OP was not a fetcher
I agree; as much as the gameplay in Skyrim was stripped down, they actually did do a good job with a "hands-off" approach to in-game morality and politics
Please no. Bethesda needs a new, powerful, robust game engine, not some unoptimized gamebyro spawn. Alas, consolefags have taken our franchise away from us and turned it into something inferior
Somebody needs to write a virus that bricks consoles, release it, and then leave millions of console peasants sad and gameless. They deserve it for what they've done
Anonymous 02/27/15 (Fri) 18:20:09 No. 5684
>>5607 >"Ulfric is a retard and nationalism is a fucking sham. Get out of here, Stormfag."
>Implying that if I claim Ulfric and the Stormcloaks aren't bad solely because they didn't pass the checklist of childish, politically correct bull-shit standards I'm a nationalist and a Thalmor sympathizer. >Implying fighting for your homeland/people makes you a Thalmor. Nice logic, you flying-fucking-fairy. Next time try thinking up some actual arguments for your point of view instead of shitting the place up with your silly, baseless accusations.
Anonymous 02/27/15 (Fri) 20:25:12 No. 5685
>>5684 >arguing over politics in a game >taking the bait >being an unbearable fetcher
Anonymous 02/27/15 (Fri) 20:29:32 No. 5686
>>5582 >Go to Windhelm, nigga elves treated like second class citizens >unrealistic caricature of racist old man running around the city bragging about how he tells them damn grayskins >roll my eyes >go to thalmor embassy, muh hurr durr we know they thought what you thought I thought secret documents >I know they're supposed to be all CIA and stuff but that was fucking stupid and I hate that it's canon >Go to Solitude >Beheading the gatekeeper for doing his job All of these were shit and used for "haha you chose the wrong side!", BUT, the fact that they at least evenly distributed it (more or less, since kiddies think hating a race that has invaded your homeland is literally as bad as killing a dude for no good reason) makes it better.
The rest of the NPC dialogue is mostly good, too, with regard to the politics, war, etc. NPCs that move, work, and have one or two original things to say is a billion times better than signposts with faces who repeat 20 or so things out of a shared pool of a few hundred.
Anonymous 02/27/15 (Fri) 20:33:27 No. 5687
>>5620 Yes, let's just sidestep the largest military force in the country, by money, land, and capita, and go hunt down the evil rich guys pulling the strings.
Surely it will be easily discovered, clear cut, simple, and there will be an obvious and significant gulf between the manipulators and the manipulated, no gray areas or conflicting morality. The Thalmor hasn't embedded itself into the Empire at all, after all.
Anonymous 02/28/15 (Sat) 04:16:12 No. 5692
>>5685 This. Don't engage with TIDF shills
Anonymous 02/28/15 (Sat) 20:33:37 No. 5706
Why can the draugr shout?
Anonymous 03/01/15 (Sun) 05:32:54 No. 5713
>>5706 The real answer is because all that shit about the Dragon War and stuff is just fucking made up and Nords were able to shout even back in Atmora.
Anonymous 03/11/15 (Wed) 05:33:28 No. 5906
To everyone saying that the civil war was poorly executed and not dynamic enough, I think you'll find this to be an interesting read:
(skip to the "OK DUDE, YOU'VE GOTTA EXPLAIN THIS A LITTLE FURTHER" part halfway down the page)
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/37216/ ?
tl;dr: Todd strikes again
Anonymous 03/11/15 (Wed) 11:52:25 No. 5908
>>5684 It'd be nice if Ulfric could think up some actual arguments for his.
Anonymous 03/11/15 (Wed) 11:59:48 No. 5909
>>5906 Is this mod any good? I've heard loads of complaints saying that it's buggy as shit
Anonymous 03/11/15 (Wed) 21:17:21 No. 5912
>>5583 Stormcloaks are the n'wahs of Tamriel, the Thalmor are the Thalmor's and are in fact the real master race. Deal with it you white skinned snow n'wah.
Anonymous 03/12/15 (Thu) 00:07:50 No. 5916
>>5909 It worked ok the last time I used it. I mean it was buggy, but there was nothing too serious. That was like a year ago though.
Anonymous 12/09/15 (Wed) 22:28:22 No. 10072
>>5651
Anon are you dense? There are explanations for these things.
>Complete abandonment of the Nordic Pantheon worship in favor of the Cyrodiilic Pantheon, save for cultural references, Sovngarde, and the Greybeards.
Froki, the Old Ways; Imperial influence
>Some have even abandoned Talos/Ysmir.
Imperial influence.
>High King was a cucked puppet of the Empire.
Imperial influence
>Solitude shows literally no trace of Nordic Culture, save for a forgotten catacomb.
Imperial influence
>Winterhold has died and no one wants to rebuild it.
Aftermath of Oblivion Crisis and the Great War
>No trace of the Old Ways still existing save for Stormcloak related things.
Already covered
>Against the practice of magic despite Tsun saying magic should be loved by the Nords.
Already covered
>Half the Companions are Werewolves and don't care if they don't go to Sovngarde.
All but one eventually cleanse their blood
>Only four Greybeards.
As of 4E 201
>Only one skald in the game.
Just an older traditional word for bard
>Wherearethemeadhalls.png
Good point
>Skyrim is fucking full of outsiders.
Imperial fucking influence
>Thalmor are allowed to freely abduct and murder citizens.
Only in Imperial-controlled territory
Anonymous 12/10/15 (Thu) 04:04:55 No. 10075
>>10072
>Imperial influence
I'm sensing a pattern here.
Anonymous 12/10/15 (Thu) 12:04:55 No. 10079
>>10075
>Imperial flatulence
I'm smelling a pattern here.
Anonymous 12/10/15 (Thu) 12:49:42 No. 10080
>>10072
>>10075
>>10079
It's a stroke of genius in Bethesda. We can criticize their quest and plotline writing skills, but when designing a setting, they're masters.
Empire is liek America. A sick and tired creation that wanted to bring freedom and liberation, but are destroying everything they touch now.
Time to reforge it. With Dragonborn at the top.
Anonymous 12/10/15 (Thu) 16:46:07 No. 10081
pretty sure skyrim bashing's something only /v/ does. Also pretty sure that board just hates everything Bethesda does in general. Most of them say Morrowind is so much better but never actually played the game. Storywise is superior but as far as mechanics go its lacking.
I liked the game quite a bit, its a great improvement over oblivion in terms of world building and story telling. The combats solid too. And of course it was fun to mod it until it was begging for mercy.
Anonymous 12/10/15 (Thu) 17:57:26 No. 10082
>>10075
It's a result of any collectivist empire which operates via mercantilism and trade. Colonized countries, or parts of the empire, are beset by foreign influence in the form of economy and trade. Hence the chests of gold Balgruuf and the other jarls received after the White-Gold Concordat; hence the wealth of Solitude; hence the importance of Markarth; hence late High-Kind Torygg always paying lip-service to the Empire (according to residents of Solitude); et cetera. Consider how a society is structured, like a pyramid. The most important elements of culture are at the top (hence the function of an aristocracy) which dictate and trickle-down the sides of the pyramid. This is evident in Skyrim where you can correlate Imperial influence (culture) to how wealthy a city is (economy).
The two exceptions are Windhelm and Riften. The former is the seat of the Stormcloak Rebellion, an icy, violent urging of Nords to honour their past supremacy and carry it forward against a dishonourable and weak empire; and the latter was recently struck with city-wide fires which decimated the city, culminating in an uprising which ended decades of poverty under a cruel Jarl, but is now regaining strength to the point where Tullius wants Riften explicitly due to its tactical value (seen when you negotiate a truce via the Empire and the Stormcloaks in the main story if the Civil War is ongoing).
>>10080
See, details like that are why I can forgive the flaws of Skyrim. Fallout 4 is another story, but Skyrim really seems to be the last of BethGS's games with any depth whatsoever. R.I.P. Adam.
>>10081
It's the least traditional/hardcore TES game thus far, and its criticism is well-deserved, but like you say it was a vast improvement in many areas over past titles. See >>8239 for /tes/'s thoughts more generally.
Anonymous 12/10/15 (Thu) 17:59:18 No. 10083
Anonymous 12/10/15 (Thu) 20:14:22 No. 10084
Anonymous 12/10/15 (Thu) 20:14:41 No. 10085
>>10083
>>10084
Yagrum Bagarn get your shit together.
Anonymous 12/11/15 (Fri) 00:00:31 No. 10090
>>10072
This post confuses me. Your references to 'Imperial influence' seem to agree with my post, but then you go off on other shit which implies you are honestly trying to deconstruct my point. Also, why the fuck are you responding to a post that I made nearly a year ago?
Regardless:
>Imperial influence.
that was pretty much the main point of my post
>All but one eventually cleanse their blood
Well whoopty-freaking-doo, those poor companions regret turning on everything they stand for? Funny how they force you to become a werewolf if you want to join their secret club, such a curse right. They willingly gave up their ticket to Sovngarde, so why the fuck should Shor let them in now, because "oh no! I want to go to Sovngarde now, I know I betrayed you Shor but I really liked you the whole time ;D" ?
Honestly, the Companions faction is likely the worst questline Bethesda has ever made
>As of 4E 201
Yah… Your point being
>Just an older traditional word for bard
>traditional
key choice of words
Anonymous 12/11/15 (Fri) 12:17:13 No. 10097
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>The civil war works so well because now past and present work together, whereas in previous games the only thing that mattered was stopping Dagoth Ur, bam, the end. Now the franchise actually has a comprehensive future to look forward to.
Except they'll just retcon it and come up with some stupid reason for why it never happened/mattered. Same with the past two games really, you do some important shit like kill Manimarco and BTFO the fighters guild from Vvardenfell, but of course it's never mentioned beyond those games.
Anonymous 12/11/15 (Fri) 15:22:56 No. 10098
>>10097
some stuff is retained and mentioned in books and stuff… just not all of it…
I think the implication of this is that (apart from the main quest) the outcome of quests isn't actually dependent on your character, and could have been done by someone else - the "cannon" story is just that your character completed the main quest, the other quests represent interesting events that occurred at the same time, and which could have been affected by your character, but ultimately the outcome would have been the same regardless (e.g. another mage guild member would have fought the necromancers and become arch-mage and so on).
An example of this would be the daedric quests - it seems unlikely that the daedra would tolerate someone who has been working for one of their enemies/rivals, let alone chose them as their champion and reward them with their artifact. And even more specifically in Skyrim - how could you sell your soul to Hircine AND Nocturnal etc.
Anonymous 12/11/15 (Fri) 16:31:13 No. 10099
>>10098
EH, I think the selling your soul thing is more just like you're giving that daedra a claim on your soul after you die. None of them are powerful enough to actually press a claim on a dragonborn, so it's more of a formality of becoming a werewolf/nnightingale.
The whole Vvardenfell assploding thing really did just hammer home that nothing you did in morrowind mattered. And you would think killing Manimarco would have an effect on the world, but nope, Meridia is still retarded and Necromancers still do their thing.
Anonymous 12/11/15 (Fri) 17:37:16 No. 10104
>>5594
Morrowind was the last PC developed title, actually. It got ported to a console that could barely run it with minimal concessions, but those concessions were for the console crowd instead of evenly forced upon us all. The PC was allowed to shit on consolefags happiness, and since the game was actually good (Pure coincidence in not being consoleized, of course) they still took their dicking with a smile on their faces as they waited 15 minutes for every loaddoor on their fagbox.
Anonymous 12/11/15 (Fri) 17:40:41 No. 10105
>>10099
> The whole Vvardenfell assploding thing really did just hammer home that nothing you did in morrowind mattere
*spoiler* the "whole Vvardenfell assploding thing" is clearly a result of the nerevarine's actions, i.e. tibunal is destroyed, vivec isn't powerful enough (and indeed dissapears) to prevent the forces of nature, red mountain erupts, without the tribunal the dunmer are weak as shit and get ass raped by the argonians.
And going back the the selling your soul thing, it's a fair enough theory you have, but it still doesn't make sense that the daedric princes would tolerate someone who was the champion of one of their enemies (e.g. as if Merida would let the champion of Namira be her champion) and the other stuff mentioned in the previous post
Anonymous 12/11/15 (Fri) 18:47:30 No. 10106
>>10105
>*spoiler* the "whole Vvardenfell assploding thing" is clearly a result of the nerevarine's actions, i.e. tibunal is destroyed, vivec isn't powerful enough (and indeed dissapears) to prevent the forces of nature, red mountain erupts, without the tribunal the dunmer are weak as shit and get ass raped by the argonians.
It's still a total cop-out, and not even original in the slightest.
Anonymous 12/11/15 (Fri) 23:12:32 No. 10113
>>10082
that's true, the game does diverge from the traditional RPG mechanics which irritated me a lot. I think its still an RPG at its core but its straddling the line a bit. A lot of the complaints that /v/ had about the game are completely unfounded. The most common complaint is the games dungeons are nothing but draugr. The draugr are a part of the lore and their presence is explained. I think the game had a decent variety of enemies but i would have preferred to see more wild animals than whats in the vanilla game. Of course the game gets a lot of hate from folks on /v/ because it was popular. I agree the horde of kiddies that don't know shit about the lore are irritating, but I hardly think that makes the game bad.
I still don't understand Bethesda's rise to mainstream popularity though. Even with oblivion they were still relatively unknown then as soon as Fallout 3 comes out they're a household name. But with
Anonymous 12/12/15 (Sat) 02:02:07 No. 10115
>>10106
>a total cop-out
No. Morrowind is a story of death and rebirth. Of a terrible crime that needs to be punished and a complacent peoples who need to be revitalized. Destruction of Morrowind and harshness of reality (which is praised and invoked by the very religion of dunmer peoples) were the natural extension of events from the game.
With the Tribunal gone, nature was no longer constricted by synthetic forces and brought down thousands of years of wrath in the name of Azura as punishment. And in true grey fashion, while Azura made it happen, or at the very least allowed it to happen, she also sent visions to people while it was happening to help them survive.
Following the eruption, dunmer had to reenact their history. A great exodus and a long spiritual search during which their culture was revitalized, religion reformend and now that they're taming Morrowind again, they're stronger than they were in a thousand years. With no foreign empire to tell them what to do.
It's not just a good continuation of Morrowind's story. It's bloody genius. I'm sure this turn of events was set in stone by Beth while Kirkbride was still there.
What did the devs say? Morrowind is the last greatest story of dunmer peoples. Or something like that.
Anonymous 12/12/15 (Sat) 03:42:28 No. 10116
>>10115
>grey fashion
>Implying Azura isn't just a self-serving cunt on multiple levels
This is a decent sized kek, but holy SHIT
>It's bloody genius
THIS
THIS IS TOP KEK
Kill yourself, Todd.
Anonymous 12/12/15 (Sat) 04:00:28 No. 10118
>>10115
Cop-out. "It's about death and rebirth" is a generic mantra that shows up everywhere in high fantasy during any cataclysm. And protip, it isn't always deep and rich just because you can write a paragraph or two about it.
Anonymous 12/12/15 (Sat) 04:15:12 No. 10119
>>10105
Part of the reason I thought morrowind had such a great story was the fact that your character was a puppet to everyone.
The empire was using you to gain more control of morrowind, the ashlanders were using you to try and reclaim their old stomping grounds, the great houses were using you in their cold war faction shit, Azura was using you, and every faction takes advantage of your talents to get power.
Morrowind was a huge power struggle with you as the lynch pin and it was brilliant.
For fucks sake your character isn't even really the nerevarine if you think about it. Even the wise woman at the usilakalusauawerwersdfaldua camp says that you're not the nerevarine. I don't think you can become one either since its supposed to be a prophecy.
The reason I don't think your character is the nerevarine is because you can die and you can choose to sever the strings of prophecy, something a prophecy bearer wouldn't be able to do. And of course the threads of prophecy route is the best one to go with because it just means your characters such a bad ass he can kill a god without any divine assistance. The empire likely knew the prophecy but kept you in the dark because of the immense amount of political power your position would hold.
Anonymous 12/12/15 (Sat) 04:27:59 No. 10121
>>10118
>>10116
I bet you two think Morrowind's story is shit because having to unite against a greater evil is cliche.
Literally NO U: The Post
Anonymous 12/12/15 (Sat) 04:39:18 No. 10122
>>10121
Morrowind's story is pretty shit because you unite with a cunt and a murderer to kill the greater good. At least mods fix that, though. You can't fix Skyrim with mods, you have to just pretend it doesn't exist and neither do Oblivion and that shitty book/possible series of shitty books if any more came out since I started ignoring it.
>>10119
You basically decide whether you're the Nerevarine or not in your conversation with Dagoth Ur. The main quest could also be considered the process of mantling Nerevar and becoming the Nerevarine if you weren't already in the beginning.
Anonymous 12/12/15 (Sat) 14:20:33 No. 10127
>>10122
>Morrowind's story is pretty shit because you unite with a cunt and a murderer to kill the greater good.
Dagoth Ur was far from the "greater good." Did you even play the game? He wants everyone to become mindless creatures that do nothing but worship him. He just thinks he's the greater good.
Anonymous 12/12/15 (Sat) 14:41:00 No. 10128
>>10122
>>10122
>Morrowind's story is pretty shit because you unite with a cunt and a murderer to kill the greater good
Edgy and uninformed, opinion discarded. Doesn't even read the lore/10
>Doesn't even understand what Dagoth Ur really is
>Doesn't even realize that Dagoth Ur doesn't even understand what he himself really is
>implying you ever actually ally with Almalexia or Vivec, implying they're not using you until it blows up in their faces
Apply yourself or zero-sum you double bosmer.
Anonymous 12/13/15 (Sun) 19:28:56 No. 10147
>>10127
>He's a bad goy who doesn't want the glorious diverse Empire to fuck his shit up
>He makes all of his followers into immortal demi-gods
>T-they're mindless creatures
Oh yeah, talk to the various Dagoths about how mindless they are. Be sure to laugh at their primitive notions of chivalry and offers of brandy. It's like talking to a fucking raccoon.
>>10128
>What Dagoth Ur really is
The realest nigga on Tamriel.
>Implying cunt was in reference to Almalexia and not Azura
>Implying I said ally
>What does unite mean hurr
Google that shit. In this case, the common purpose is defeating Ur and Vivec forces you into this arrangement with Wraithguard.
Don't wank it about muh deadalivedagothur and muh MK and call me uninformed when even that drug addled schizo faggot wants you to make the story your own.
Anonymous 12/13/15 (Sun) 21:24:30 No. 10150
>>10147
>The realest nigga on Tamriel.
what?
Anonymous 12/13/15 (Sun) 22:03:47 No. 10151
>>5582
I now start to think that Bethesda pulled a subtle Blizzard yes I know Skyrim came way before Legion and tried to go a bit back to Morrowind then doing Skyrim. Morrowind was I think the first game to go in-depth with all the political shit and combined it beautifully with the prophecy shit. Skyrim is pretty much the same thing, only to a much lesser extent. Even the racism is there, just not as important.
Also, I think they just said fuck it one day and went full nostalgia baiting with Dragonborn.
Anonymous 12/13/15 (Sun) 22:05:11 No. 10152
>>10151
>back to Morrowind then doing Skyrim
Meant when.
Also I'm really tired. Sorry if it's all a big clusterfuck.
Anonymous 12/13/15 (Sun) 23:19:12 No. 10153
>>10150
You heard me, fuckboy.
Anonymous 12/14/15 (Mon) 01:56:29 No. 10155
>>10147
>forces you into this arrangement
didn't play the back route huh?
the thing about morrowind is you're not really the nerevarine and you're not really bound by prophecy to do shit. You don't have to do any of the trials of lord nerevar to beat the game. At any point you can say fuck it, kill vivec and jack his wicked gauntlet then take it to Yagrum Bagarn but he'll say "you need to be a real gangsta to use this shit dawg". So you do the one punch man training regiment and put that shit on and swat dagoth ur's bitch ass off the ledge. And you suck azuras dick but its totally not gay because its totally a chick.
Anonymous 12/14/15 (Mon) 02:14:40 No. 10156
>>10147
>The realest nigga on Tamriel.
How can a nigga be real if only his dreams are real?
Anonymous 12/14/15 (Mon) 12:04:01 No. 10162
>>10147
>Oh yeah, talk to the various Dagoths about how mindless they are. Be sure to laugh at their primitive notions of chivalry and offers of brandy. It's like talking to a fucking raccoon.
I'm sure their daily compulsions to stack chair towers and paint scarabs everywhere are completely normal too.
>WHERE ARE YOU, LORD? We cannot hear you…. SPEAK to us! PLEASE!
>What are you? Where is this place? I'm so tired, LET ME SLEEP!
>The chairs. The tables. All confused. We hear the words, and must speak them. We take them, and arrange them, but still, they will not be quiet.
>Everything is wrong. This is not straight. This is too high. This is in my way. We must put them right.
Completely reasonable actions that definitely doesn't imply that they're having their minds fucking destroyed. Especially since one of the steps of their transformation literally has their brains caved in, then regrown as a cancerous tentacle. This certainly doesn't imply that Dagoth Ur completely destroys his follower's minds and replace them with his delusions. I mean, that's almost like saying he completely controls every aspect of their life, or something!
Anonymous 12/14/15 (Mon) 15:24:09 No. 10164
>>5636
>le hardware restrictions :^)
those aren't hardware restrictions, that's just unwilling to make a feature (aka not giving a fuck). it takes a few simple scripts to make those work, hardware is not even a question. just stop spewing babble.
Anonymous 12/15/15 (Tue) 04:40:46 No. 10168
>>10162
>Brains
Oh no, what a loss. At least they're quasi-divine immortals who, even while being completely unable to deal with it until they git gud and git a face-tentacle can still manage to not only think but communicate.
>He controls them! Who is he to do that? At least Azura lets us live our lives unmolested, and so does Vivec
Muh freedom. I bet you're a libertarian, too. At least they get something out of this deal other than orbital bombardment for not loving Vivec enough or in Azura's case, basically jack shit across the board.
>Implying all of that chair shit isn't just Bethesda running out of ideas on how to portray House Dagoth negatively as they're clearly the shit and thus falling back on lolsorandom
The scarabs are the insignia of House Dagoth, by the way. Their being made into graffiti everywhere only lends further credence to the idea of Dagoth Ur as the realest nigga on Tamriel. He's got a whole squad tagging shit up for him, fam.
Anonymous 12/15/15 (Tue) 07:09:48 No. 10170
>>10168
>I bet you're a libertarian, too
Why the fuck are you making assumptions of people's political views on an elder scrolls board? That shit belongs on /pol/
And no, I'm not >>10162 and I'm not a libertarian
Anonymous 12/15/15 (Tue) 07:54:54 No. 10171
>>10168
>Brains
>Oh no, what a loss.
that explains a lot about your posts
Anonymous 12/15/15 (Tue) 10:15:46 No. 10172
>>10170
Because he used the libertarian response to absolutely everything.
>muh freedom
>>10171
Ebin. I didn't just lose the brains, though. I got the quasi-divinity and immortality. Enjoy death, nerd.
Anonymous 12/15/15 (Tue) 11:58:32 No. 10173
>>10168
>>10172
You're pretty rad, anon!
Anonymous 12/15/15 (Tue) 19:55:07 No. 10177
>>10172
>immortality
>spend all eternity stacking chairs and talking to yourself with a tentacle crammed in your dome
Anonymous 12/15/15 (Tue) 20:06:54 No. 10178
>>10172
>desperate for immortality at any expense
>willing to sell your body and mind for a small amount of power
>mocking one's own freedom
how does one become so pitiful?
Anonymous 12/15/15 (Tue) 20:13:37 No. 10179
>>10178
fucking sleepers, am I right?
Anonymous 12/15/15 (Tue) 22:01:33 No. 10180
>>10168
You do not understand the lore, at all. Dagoth Ur fucked these niggas up and there's no way to make that into a positive, at all.
Immortality is pointless if there is no free will or pleasure of any sort. Hlaalu infiltrator.
Anonymous 12/17/15 (Thu) 19:02:49 No. 10199
>>10177
It's like you missed the part where you become able to control yourself within the Dagoth hivemind and ridiculously OP. It's not Dagoth Ur's fault that the average Dunmer peasant is bad at it when he gets in.
>>10178
>Small
>The same power source that allowed the Tribunal to rewrite time so they were gods from the beginning of it
>Muh freedom to die a saltrice farming retard isn't worth mocking comparatively
Weab, swerve.
>>10180
>Implying no free will or pleasure of any sort
>Implying immortality is even the main goal here anyway
The objective is to roll with Tamriel's greatest OG repping Red Mountain and Resdayn. Immortality is a consequence of that because Dagoth Ur looks out for his niggas. Even if they betray him repeatedly like that s'wit Nerevar.
Anonymous 12/17/15 (Thu) 19:55:02 No. 10200
>>10199
>ridiculously OP
bud I was taking them on when I was level 7. Hell I beat the game when I was level 12.
Anonymous 12/18/15 (Fri) 04:32:05 No. 10204
>>10200
>Using gameplay in this conversation
>'beat' Morrowind
Anonymous 12/18/15 (Fri) 08:03:41 No. 10207
>>10204
oh you know exactly what i meant when I said beat. That means smashed dagoth ur's toy and took his lunch money.
and i'm of the opinion that your level in morrowind is a direct correlation to your ability plot wise. Every time you level up you get a some motivational text right? Well that text isn't just there to make you feel good its your character becoming stronger, those are his thoughts and his interaction with the world. The nerevarine is a part of the world and your actions are his. I wouldn't even call it a head canon situation since you pretty much have to be an equally high level to beat the game be it the main route or the back path. If you use the main route your character becomes powerful through plot points but if you do the back path he becomes strong through sheer persistence.
Here's the thing to consider, it doesn't matter if your characters level 7 or level 70 if dagoth ur's as powerful and all knowing as you claim then surely he should have been able to take on a puny mortal, especially if you do the back path where you have zero divine aid.
>inb4 back path isn't canon
Anonymous 12/19/15 (Sat) 17:20:55 No. 10210
>>10207
Even in the back path you're still a Shezzarine, and favored by Azura.
Anonymous 12/19/15 (Sat) 22:10:07 No. 10213
>>10207
I know what you meant. You meant you were an n'wah. I told you to get out. I don't want to be forced to tell you again.
Anonymous 12/27/15 (Sun) 05:03:35 No. 10261
>>10164
>just a few scripts
your opinion is discarded
Anonymous 12/27/15 (Sun) 06:16:34 No. 10263
>>10261
sick meme, brozef :^)))
Anonymous 01/01/16 (Fri) 20:06:30 No. 10332
I recently saw a speedrun of morrowind where he beat the game in 4 minutes and 19 seconds while still level 1. He killed the boss so fast it was still saying "you cannot hurt a god" when the end cutscene was playing.
Anonymous 01/02/16 (Sat) 09:13:58 No. 10336
>>10332
Wow. Him and a million other faggots on Youtube/Twitch.